Quantum Break biggest-selling Microsoft Game Studios new IP this generation for Xbox One

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#1  Edited By dynamitecop
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Well, people said it would be a flop commercially, I guess that didn't happen. Ryse: Son of Rome sold around 1.3 million copies lifetime from what can be gathered from the internet, Quantum Break has surpassed that in the sum of 9 days, possibly less, 9 days is when it was reported.

http://news.xbox.com/2016/04/14/39364/

Glad to see such a great, experimental and interesting game concept doing so well, I look forward to what Microsoft and above all Remedy decide to do next!

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Good news, one day...one day I'll buy you and love you the way I love Alan Wake. I still need to clear the backlog 3:

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#3  Edited By StrongBlackVine
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I am squite sure they meant debut and not total sales. You know this as well or you are completely out of your mind if you really think Quantum Break sold 1.3 million copies so far. It only sold 27k at UK retail and will probably struggle to 200k in April NPD. It is a critical and commercial disappointment. Nice to see you still crying about though.

I will continue to twist the knife in whenever you try to get some false hope.

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#4  Edited By dynamitecop
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@StrongBlackVine said:

I am squite sure they meant debut and not total sales. You know this as well or you are completely out of your mind if you really think Quantum Break sold 1.3 million copies so far. It only sold 27k at UK retail and will probably struggle to 200k in April NPD. It is a critical and commercial disappointment. Nice to see you still crying about though.

I will continue to twist the knife in whenever you try to get some false hope.

Do what you will cow, you can't misconstrue this.

"officially the biggest-selling new Microsoft Studios published IP this generation."

It says nothing about debut.

P.S. They also stated it had extremely high pre-order numbers, this game likely sold more digitally than physically simply predicated on what the bonuses were.

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Well then why'd you close down on Friday MS? Just kidding, stock outperforms its industry as usual. Good for Remedy. I like Sam Lake, seems like a nice guy from interviews. Game was good fun. Nothing great but still fun. Hope they are willing to take some notes on a sequel though.

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I'm glad the 6/10 GS score and disastrous PC port did not affect this multi plat.

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Is that supposed to mean it achieved its expected ROI?

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@Heil68 said:

I'm glad the 6/10 GS score and disastrous PC port did not affect this multi plat.

Guess not. I'm not surprised either, being that GS holds no weight in the consumer market.

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@dynamitecop: Yeah yeah. It's still a flop. When those low US numbers come in next month I'm sure you will try to claim it was like 70 percent digital! Microsoft is so so good with bullshit PR these days they will probably count those free PC codes as sales.

I guarantee we will never get an official number from them because they know corporate slaves like you will frame whatever they in most favorable light possible.

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@cainetao11 said:
@Heil68 said:

I'm glad the 6/10 GS score and disastrous PC port did not affect this multi plat.

Guess not. I'm not surprised either, being that GS holds no weight in the consumer market.

GameSpot doesn't even hold weight in its respective market, it's amazing how far beyond this website IGN has become.

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That's including PC sales.

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LOL that any one actually believe this game sold 1.3 million. Xbox has great PR spin if nothing else this generation. Just like they managed to make one of the worst selling Halo games of all-time sound like a huge success.

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#13  Edited By dynamitecop
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@Chutebox said:

That's including PC sales.

Nope.

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Can't wait to pick this game up.

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@dynamitecop said:
@cainetao11 said:
@Heil68 said:

I'm glad the 6/10 GS score and disastrous PC port did not affect this multi plat.

Guess not. I'm not surprised either, being that GS holds no weight in the consumer market.

GameSpot doesn't even hold weight in its respective market, it's amazing how far beyond this website IGN has become.

GS ensured that meta game is dead as according to sticky and any outside source can be used to justify the game.

Any score does not determine a FLOP as according to official SW's trules.

Its a shame too, I was personally looking forward to the score and how it compared to the HYPE thread, but gosh darnit, it doesn't matter anymore.

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/the-system-wars-metagame-is-officially-no-more-32890834/#94

3 months, 11 days ago

Q: But there are still hype threads?

Yes, we're still going to keep hype threads. But the hype threads are now going to be more of pre-release information and discussion threads, as well as a place where, yes, users can predict what scores (Gamespot, Metacritic, elsewhere) a game may end up scoring. They will no longer determine whether a game has 'flopped' or 'met hype.'

we can only work with what we got and abide by the official rules. Just like QB is not a flop, it doesn't matter if Uncharted 4 scores a 1 here, it isnt a FLOP.

The last known SW's meta game FLOP was Halo 5

AAA on LOCK only to AA FLOP

I'm just as disappointed as you guys, but good gravy we all have to follow the stickys and survival guide.

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Because it's like giving a starving man a biscuit.

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#17  Edited By Chutebox
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@dynamitecop said:
@Chutebox said:

That's including PC sales.

Nope.

from your link, "and is now officially the biggest-selling new Microsoft Studios published IP this generation."

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@Chutebox said:
@dynamitecop said:
@Chutebox said:

That's including PC sales.

Nope.

from your link, "and is now officially the biggest-selling new Microsoft Studios published IP this generation."

And that picture is the header to that article, so yeah, get a clue.

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@Chutebox: It's not true. At least the 1.3 million in 9 days isn't Notice that Microsoft did not say that and let's their delusional fanboys run with it. April NPD will be hilarious when Quantum Flop barely charts with 200k or less.

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#20 Chutebox
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@dynamitecop said:
@Chutebox said:
@dynamitecop said:
@Chutebox said:

That's including PC sales.

Nope.

from your link, "and is now officially the biggest-selling new Microsoft Studios published IP this generation."

And that picture is the header to that article, so yeah, get a clue.

Wow. You're an idiot.

It's either a misprint in the title or the article. Good luck getting that stick out of your ass.

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@StrongBlackVine said:

@Chutebox: It's not true. At least the 1.3 million in 9 days isn't Notice that Microsoft did not say that and let's their delusional fanboys run with it. April NPD will be hilarious when Quantum Flop barely charts with 200k or less.

I know. B4X never changes.

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@Heil68 said:

I'm glad the 6/10 GS score and disastrous PC port did not affect this multi plat.

I hear the ps4 version is doing well.

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#23  Edited By dynamitecop
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@StrongBlackVine said:

@Chutebox: It's not true. At least the 1.3 million in 9 days. Notice that Microsoft did not say that and let their delusional fanboys run with it. April NPD will be hilarious when Quantum Flop barely charts with 200k or less.

Do you deny that Quantum Break had the best digital pre-order bonuses a game has ever received?

$60 got you

  • Quantum Break on Xbox One
  • Quantum Break on Windows 10
  • Alan Wake + The Signal and Writer DLC
  • Alan Wake's American Nightmare

NPD means **** all in the face of digital incentive like that, they no doubt shifted purchasing decisions for most people.

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#24  Edited By KratosYOLOSwag
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lol NyaDC thread

https://twitter.com/aarongreenberg/status/720715106003210240

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@dotWithShoes said:
@Heil68 said:

I'm glad the 6/10 GS score and disastrous PC port did not affect this multi plat.

I hear the ps4 version is doing well.

awww man, I bought the X1 version, where is link to PS4 version? I'll; trade in my X1 version and buy PS4 copy, it will probably run better,

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@Chutebox said:
@dynamitecop said:
@Chutebox said:
@dynamitecop said:
@Chutebox said:

That's including PC sales.

Nope.

from your link, "and is now officially the biggest-selling new Microsoft Studios published IP this generation."

And that picture is the header to that article, so yeah, get a clue.

Wow. You're an idiot.

It's either a misprint in the title or the article. Good luck getting that stick out of your ass.

lol that's rich, a misprint haha...

What a clown, people can't just be happy that the game did good on a console that pisses them off, jokes, all of you.

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Well deserved... its a great game.

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@dynamitecop said:
@Chutebox said:
@dynamitecop said:
@Chutebox said:
@dynamitecop said:

Nope.

from your link, "and is now officially the biggest-selling new Microsoft Studios published IP this generation."

And that picture is the header to that article, so yeah, get a clue.

Wow. You're an idiot.

It's either a misprint in the title or the article. Good luck getting that stick out of your ass.

lol that's rich, a misprint haha...

What a clown, people can't just be happy that the game did good on a console that pisses them off, jokes, all of you.

Again, you're an idiot.

No where was I ragging on the game. But being the paranoid, dumbass that you are assumed I was. Get that stick out yet? Must be lodged way up there.

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@Heil68 said:
@dynamitecop said:
@cainetao11 said:
@Heil68 said:

I'm glad the 6/10 GS score and disastrous PC port did not affect this multi plat.

Guess not. I'm not surprised either, being that GS holds no weight in the consumer market.

GameSpot doesn't even hold weight in its respective market, it's amazing how far beyond this website IGN has become.

GS ensured that meta game is dead as according to sticky and any outside source can be used to justify the game.

Any score does not determine a FLOP as according to official SW's trules.

Its a shame too, I was personally looking forward to the score and how it compared to the HYPE thread, but gosh darnit, it doesn't matter anymore.

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/the-system-wars-metagame-is-officially-no-more-32890834/#94

3 months, 11 days ago

Q: But there are still hype threads?

Yes, we're still going to keep hype threads. But the hype threads are now going to be more of pre-release information and discussion threads, as well as a place where, yes, users can predict what scores (Gamespot, Metacritic, elsewhere) a game may end up scoring. They will no longer determine whether a game has 'flopped' or 'met hype.'

we can only work with what we got and abide by the official rules. Just like QB is not a flop, it doesn't matter if Uncharted 4 scores a 1 here, it isnt a FLOP.

The last known SW's meta game FLOP was Halo 5

AAA on LOCK only to AA FLOP

I'm just as disappointed as you guys, but good gravy we all have to follow the stickys and survival guide.

Like I said to you before, don't cherry pick bro. If you are calling this law then you cant call Halo 5 a flop anymore. From the same thread:

Q: Are these changes retroactively applicable?

Yes. Rejoice, The Last of Us and Halo 5 are no longer flops.

What's it going to be Heil68?

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This thread will end well.

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@cainetao11:This, I have it saved to notepad for easy copy/paste

GS ensured that meta game is dead as according to sticky and any outside source can be used to justify the game.

Any score does not determine a FLOP as according to official SW's trules.

Its a shame too, I was personally looking forward to the score and how it compared to the HYPE thread, but gosh darnit, it doesn't matter anymore.

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/the-system-wars-metagame-is-officially-no-more-32890834/#94

3 months, 11 days ago

Q: But there are still hype threads?

Yes, we're still going to keep hype threads. But the hype threads are now going to be more of pre-release information and discussion threads, as well as a place where, yes, users can predict what scores (Gamespot, Metacritic, elsewhere) a game may end up scoring. They will no longer determine whether a game has 'flopped' or 'met hype.'

Oh, well, I guess we move on and know that Uncharted 4 can not flop according to GS.

we can only work with what we got and abide by the official rules. Just like QB is not a flop, it doesn't matter if Uncharted 4 scores a 1 here, it isnt a FLOP.

The last known SW's meta game FLOP was Halo 5

AAA on LOCK only to AA FLOP

I'm just as disappointed as you guys, but good gravy we all have to follow the stickys and survival guide.

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#32 KratosYOLOSwag
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@n64dd said:

This thread will end well.

I kinda put it to an end already lol

https://twitter.com/aarongreenberg/status/720715106003210240

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"Experimental"

"Great"

And other such things.

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@dynamitecop said:
@StrongBlackVine said:

@Chutebox: It's not true. At least the 1.3 million in 9 days. Notice that Microsoft did not say that and let their delusional fanboys run with it. April NPD will be hilarious when Quantum Flop barely charts with 200k or less.

Do you deny that Quantum Break had the best digital pre-order bonuses a game has ever received?

$60 got you

  • Quantum Break on Xbox One
  • Quantum Break on Windows 10
  • Alan Wake + The Signal and Writer DLC
  • Alan Wake's American Nightmare

NPD means **** all in the face of digital incentive like that, they no doubt shifted purchasing decisions for most people.

I got Alan Wake, but did you need to pre-order the DD version to get American Nightmare? I only got a insert in my gamecase for first game.

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#36 dynamitecop
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@Heil68 said:
@dynamitecop said:
@StrongBlackVine said:

@Chutebox: It's not true. At least the 1.3 million in 9 days. Notice that Microsoft did not say that and let their delusional fanboys run with it. April NPD will be hilarious when Quantum Flop barely charts with 200k or less.

Do you deny that Quantum Break had the best digital pre-order bonuses a game has ever received?

$60 got you

  • Quantum Break on Xbox One
  • Quantum Break on Windows 10
  • Alan Wake + The Signal and Writer DLC
  • Alan Wake's American Nightmare

NPD means **** all in the face of digital incentive like that, they no doubt shifted purchasing decisions for most people.

I got Alan Wake, but did you need to pre-order the DD version to get American Nightmare? I only got a insert in my gamecase for first game.

I don't think you had to, I'm not sure where you live, this is for the US.

http://www.windowscentral.com/quantum-break-ultimate-buyers-guide

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#37  Edited By Heil68
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@cainetao11 said:
@Heil68 said:
@dynamitecop said:
@cainetao11 said:
@Heil68 said:

I'm glad the 6/10 GS score and disastrous PC port did not affect this multi plat.

Guess not. I'm not surprised either, being that GS holds no weight in the consumer market.

GameSpot doesn't even hold weight in its respective market, it's amazing how far beyond this website IGN has become.

GS ensured that meta game is dead as according to sticky and any outside source can be used to justify the game.

Any score does not determine a FLOP as according to official SW's trules.

Its a shame too, I was personally looking forward to the score and how it compared to the HYPE thread, but gosh darnit, it doesn't matter anymore.

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/the-system-wars-metagame-is-officially-no-more-32890834/#94

3 months, 11 days ago

Q: But there are still hype threads?

Yes, we're still going to keep hype threads. But the hype threads are now going to be more of pre-release information and discussion threads, as well as a place where, yes, users can predict what scores (Gamespot, Metacritic, elsewhere) a game may end up scoring. They will no longer determine whether a game has 'flopped' or 'met hype.'

we can only work with what we got and abide by the official rules. Just like QB is not a flop, it doesn't matter if Uncharted 4 scores a 1 here, it isnt a FLOP.

The last known SW's meta game FLOP was Halo 5

AAA on LOCK only to AA FLOP

I'm just as disappointed as you guys, but good gravy we all have to follow the stickys and survival guide.

Like I said to you before, don't cherry pick bro. If you are calling this law then you cant call Halo 5 a flop anymore. From the same thread:

Q: Are these changes retroactively applicable?

Yes. Rejoice, The Last of Us and Halo 5 are no longer flops.

What's it going to be Heil68?

and are you kidding? Halo 5 and TLOU are no longer flops, no problem.

I only stated the last known metagame FLOP was HALO5, AAA on LOCK only to AA FLOP.

Now of course HALO 5 isn't a flop as per GS official survival sticky and rules of forum.

Just like TLOU isn't and can be recognized for the 2nd TOP 5 IP in a row from PS4 exclusive developer Naughty Dog it is.

I can only work within the guidelines of the forum, I would never overstep those boundaries.

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@Heil68: Wow. Gotta say all joking aside, little disappointed in you. Thought you had more integrity.

Goes by sticky, quotes and links sticky but ignores clearly defined rule in sticky regarding retroactiveness of sticky.

Q: Are these changes retroactively applicable?

Yes. Rejoice, The Last of Us and Halo 5 are no longer flops.

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/the-system-wars-metagame-is-officially-no-more-32890834/#94

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@StrongBlackVine said:

@Chutebox: It's not true. At least the 1.3 million in 9 days isn't Notice that Microsoft did not say that and let's their delusional fanboys run with it. April NPD will be hilarious when Quantum Flop barely charts with 200k or less.

I think the biggest question is if Quantum Break is in the Top 10 on April NPD list will you be eating 100lbs of crow?

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@dynamitecop said:

Do what you will cow, you can't misconstrue this.

"officially the biggest-selling new Microsoft Studios published IP this generation."

It says nothing about debut.

P.S. They also stated it had extremely high pre-order numbers, this game likely sold more digitally than physically simply predicated on what the bonuses were.

lol stop using VGchartz man.

That is where you get your whole 1.3 million for ryse..lol

http://www.vgchartz.com/gamedb/?name=Ryse

In fact we go no news on Ryse hitting 1 million let alone 1.3 from what i have read on neogaf it did like 300k which explain why QB is the biggest seller. lol

Like i already stated on the NPD thread were i reported this ^^ news you have to do allot of reading between the lines on that claim. lol

No they did not claim that dude what the hell man.

Quantum Break preorders “really strong” and “well ahead of plan”

Read more: http://wccftech.com/xbox-greenberg-quantum-break-mega-hit-preorders-really-strong/#ixzz463TB5iu2

This ^^ what they claim without a single number to back it up,which mean total shit,they could have expect 100k preorders and got 200 so yeah really strong pre orders there and well ahead of plan.

That is basically an empty response to give the best possible impression vs the scores that were raining in back them that were mixed.

So again he we are with you making stuff up of the xbox one like always B4X.

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Uncharted 4 is gonna beat the everlasting shit out of this game.

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#42 Heil68
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@Heil68 said:
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@StrongBlackVine said:

@Chutebox: It's not true. At least the 1.3 million in 9 days. Notice that Microsoft did not say that and let their delusional fanboys run with it. April NPD will be hilarious when Quantum Flop barely charts with 200k or less.

Do you deny that Quantum Break had the best digital pre-order bonuses a game has ever received?

$60 got you

  • Quantum Break on Xbox One
  • Quantum Break on Windows 10
  • Alan Wake + The Signal and Writer DLC
  • Alan Wake's American Nightmare

NPD means **** all in the face of digital incentive like that, they no doubt shifted purchasing decisions for most people.

I got Alan Wake, but did you need to pre-order the DD version to get American Nightmare? I only got a insert in my gamecase for first game.

I don't think you had to, I'm not sure where you live, this is for the US.

http://www.windowscentral.com/quantum-break-ultimate-buyers-guide

Well shit, I pre-ordered mine from BB and I got the 1st game with retail disk from BestBuy. I guess it's not that big of deal, I have American Nightmare on steam and recently installed it.

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#43  Edited By deactivated-583c85dc33d18
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Looks like the PeniS4 got Xboned

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#44 lostrib
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@kratosyoloswag said:

lol NyaDC thread

https://twitter.com/aarongreenberg/status/720715106003210240

well that pretty much wraps it up

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#45 mems_1224
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Lol at strongblackvine having a meltdown in this thread.

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#46 KratosYOLOSwag
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@Chutebox said:

So, I was right then?

NyaDC was wrong, as usual. Greenberg straight up lied, he's pretty much saying it has a good chance of eventually passing Ryse lmao.

Then again, Microsoft has another article claiming Quantum Break is critically-acclaimed: http://news.xbox.com/2016/04/05/quantum-break-now-available-xbox/

They either love lying to their fans or they're delusional or both.

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#47 tormentos
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@kratosyoloswag said:
@Chutebox said:

So, I was right then?

NyaDC was wrong, as usual. Greenberg straight up lied, he's pretty much saying it has a good chance of eventually passing Ryse lmao.

Then again, Microsoft has another article claiming Quantum Break is critically-acclaimed: http://news.xbox.com/2016/04/05/quantum-break-now-available-xbox/

They either love lying to their fans or they're delusional or both.

Ms is twisting reality so bad is not even funny.the whole quantum break article just on NPD Thursday was a given..lol

Poor B4X after claiming that it sold 1.3 million units that he pull straight from his buns.

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#48  Edited By SolidTy
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Lol people swallowing dishonest Greenberg's PR/Marketing/Spin/lies all these years later. Greenberg was the marketing/professional liar from the old Xbox Mattrick regime...I would think the intelligent Xbox fans among us would avoid quoting him ever again.

by Aaron Greenberg Xbox Games Marketing

No need to continue reading that drivel once you read the byline. Greenberg's lies and PR still being used as some sort of evidence of anything...hahaha.

@kratosyoloswag said:
@Chutebox said:

So, I was right then?

NyaDC/dynamite was wrong, as usual. Greenberg straight up lied, he's pretty much saying it has a good chance of eventually passing Ryse lmao.

Then again, Microsoft has another article claiming Quantum Break is critically-acclaimed: http://news.xbox.com/2016/04/05/quantum-break-now-available-xbox/

They either love lying to their fans or they're delusional or both.

The 77/100 metascoring Quantum Break? (http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-one/quantum-break) Good one, Greenberg. His job is marketing and people love to buy into his every spinning lie despite all these many years later.

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@kratosyoloswag said:

lol NyaDC thread

https://twitter.com/aarongreenberg/status/720715106003210240

well that pretty much wraps it up

Indeed.

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#49 Heil68
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@SolidTy said:

Lol people swallowing dishonest Greenberg's PR/Marketing/Spin/lies from the old Xbox regime under Matrrick all these years later.

by Aaron Greenberg Xbox Games Marketing

No need to continue reading that drivel once you read the byline. Greenberg's lies and PR still being used as some sort of evidence of anything...hahaha.

@kratosyoloswag said:
@Chutebox said:

So, I was right then?

NyaDC/dynamite was wrong, as usual. Greenberg straight up lied, he's pretty much saying it has a good chance of eventually passing Ryse lmao.

Then again, Microsoft has another article claiming Quantum Break is critically-acclaimed: http://news.xbox.com/2016/04/05/quantum-break-now-available-xbox/

They either love lying to their fans or they're delusional or both.

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@kratosyoloswag said:

lol NyaDC thread

https://twitter.com/aarongreenberg/status/720715106003210240

well that pretty much wraps it up

Golly, that's a SHOCKING revelation and maybe even SCANDALOUS?????

Good Gravy what is Greenberg thinking????

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#50 Chutebox
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Poor B4X, another day another embarrassment.