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#151  Edited By dynamitecop
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Being the highest selling flop among flops doesn't stop it from being a flop itself. It sold 25k in the UK, that's abysmal.

It sold 25k physical copies in light of this, I have no doubt that this is one of the very few or only games which very likely sold more digitally than physically.

Do you deny that Quantum Break had the best digital pre-order bonuses a game has ever received?

$60 got you

  • Quantum Break on Xbox One
  • Quantum Break on Windows 10
  • Alan Wake + The Signal and Writer DLC
  • Alan Wake's American Nightmare

NPD means **** all in the face of digital incentive like that, they no doubt shifted purchasing decisions for most people.

If this was just a standard release then physical numbers would be a good metric for sales, but in light of the above it's not, unless the digital numbers can be brought to light the physical numbers have absolutely no point of reference, the digital incentive was much too high and no doubt largely swayed purchasing decisions towards it.

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#152  Edited By QuadKnight
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@dynamitecop said:
@quadknight said:

Being the highest selling flop among flops doesn't stop it from being a flop itself. It sold 25k in the UK, that's abysmal.

It sold 25k physical copies in light of this, I have no doubt that this is one of the very few or only games which very likely sold more digitally than physically.

Do you deny that Quantum Break had the best digital pre-order bonuses a game has ever received?

$60 got you

  • Quantum Break on Xbox One
  • Quantum Break on Windows 10
  • Alan Wake + The Signal and Writer DLC
  • Alan Wake's American Nightmare

NPD means **** all in the face of digital incentive like that, they no doubt shifted purchasing decisions for most people.

If this was just a standard release then physical numbers would be a good metric for sales, but in light of the above it's not, unless the digital numbers can be brought to light the physical numbers have absolutely no point of reference.

This means absolutely nothing without numbers to back up your claim.

It sold 25k in UK based on the numbers we have, and that's a flop.

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#153  Edited By dynamitecop
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@quadknight said:
@dynamitecop said:
@quadknight said:

Being the highest selling flop among flops doesn't stop it from being a flop itself. It sold 25k in the UK, that's abysmal.

It sold 25k physical copies in light of this, I have no doubt that this is one of the very few or only games which very likely sold more digitally than physically.

Do you deny that Quantum Break had the best digital pre-order bonuses a game has ever received?

$60 got you

  • Quantum Break on Xbox One
  • Quantum Break on Windows 10
  • Alan Wake + The Signal and Writer DLC
  • Alan Wake's American Nightmare

NPD means **** all in the face of digital incentive like that, they no doubt shifted purchasing decisions for most people.

If this was just a standard release then physical numbers would be a good metric for sales, but in light of the above it's not, unless the digital numbers can be brought to light the physical numbers have absolutely no point of reference.

This means absolutely nothing without numbers to back up your claim.

It sold 25k in UK based on the numbers we have, and that's a flop.

Yes, let's just imagine like the above factors and digital sales don't exist, get out.

Physical sales for this games launch are a terrible metric for judging how much it actually sold.

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#154  Edited By QuadKnight
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@dynamitecop said:
@quadknight said:
@dynamitecop said:
@quadknight said:

Being the highest selling flop among flops doesn't stop it from being a flop itself. It sold 25k in the UK, that's abysmal.

It sold 25k physical copies in light of this, I have no doubt that this is one of the very few or only games which very likely sold more digitally than physically.

Do you deny that Quantum Break had the best digital pre-order bonuses a game has ever received?

$60 got you

  • Quantum Break on Xbox One
  • Quantum Break on Windows 10
  • Alan Wake + The Signal and Writer DLC
  • Alan Wake's American Nightmare

NPD means **** all in the face of digital incentive like that, they no doubt shifted purchasing decisions for most people.

If this was just a standard release then physical numbers would be a good metric for sales, but in light of the above it's not, unless the digital numbers can be brought to light the physical numbers have absolutely no point of reference.

This means absolutely nothing without numbers to back up your claim.

It sold 25k in UK based on the numbers we have, and that's a flop.

Yes, let's just imagine like the above factors and digital sales don't exist, get out.

Physical sales for this games launch are a terrible metric for judging how much it actually sold.

Are you saying this game sold ten times more in digital than retail because that's the only way this would't be a flop.

You're a clown lol.

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#155 dynamitecop
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@quadknight said:
@dynamitecop said:
@quadknight said:
@dynamitecop said:

It sold 25k physical copies in light of this, I have no doubt that this is one of the very few or only games which very likely sold more digitally than physically.

Do you deny that Quantum Break had the best digital pre-order bonuses a game has ever received?

$60 got you

  • Quantum Break on Xbox One
  • Quantum Break on Windows 10
  • Alan Wake + The Signal and Writer DLC
  • Alan Wake's American Nightmare

NPD means **** all in the face of digital incentive like that, they no doubt shifted purchasing decisions for most people.

If this was just a standard release then physical numbers would be a good metric for sales, but in light of the above it's not, unless the digital numbers can be brought to light the physical numbers have absolutely no point of reference.

This means absolutely nothing without numbers to back up your claim.

It sold 25k in UK based on the numbers we have, and that's a flop.

Yes, let's just imagine like the above factors and digital sales don't exist, get out.

Physical sales for this games launch are a terrible metric for judging how much it actually sold.

Are you saying this game sold ten times more in digital than retail because that's the only way this would't be a flop.

You're a clown lol.

There's no way of knowing, we have to wait until numbers from all sides are accounted for, it could be months, but until then any early sales data for this game is rendered largely incomplete.

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#156  Edited By QuadKnight
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@dynamitecop said:
@quadknight said:
@dynamitecop said:
@quadknight said:

This means absolutely nothing without numbers to back up your claim.

It sold 25k in UK based on the numbers we have, and that's a flop.

Yes, let's just imagine like the above factors and digital sales don't exist, get out.

Physical sales for this games launch are a terrible metric for judging how much it actually sold.

Are you saying this game sold ten times more in digital than retail because that's the only way this would't be a flop.

You're a clown lol.

There's no way of knowing, we have to wait until numbers from all sides are accounted for, it could be months, but until then any early sales data for this game is rendered largely incomplete.

There's a way of knowing, it's called looking at the charts, and based on the charts it's a flop. Anyone without lemming blinders can see this lol.

25K in sales in the UK is abysmal whether you like it or not. Digital sales don't make up for 900% of any major retail game's sales. It never has this gen and it never will.

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#157 dynamitecop
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@quadknight said:
@dynamitecop said:
@quadknight said:
@dynamitecop said:
@quadknight said:

This means absolutely nothing without numbers to back up your claim.

It sold 25k in UK based on the numbers we have, and that's a flop.

Yes, let's just imagine like the above factors and digital sales don't exist, get out.

Physical sales for this games launch are a terrible metric for judging how much it actually sold.

Are you saying this game sold ten times more in digital than retail because that's the only way this would't be a flop.

You're a clown lol.

There's no way of knowing, we have to wait until numbers from all sides are accounted for, it could be months, but until then any early sales data for this game is rendered largely incomplete.

There's a way of knowing, it's called looking at the charts, and based on the charts it's a flop. Anyone without lemming blinders can see this lol.

25K in sales in the UK is abysmal whether you like it or not. Digital sales don't make up for 900% of any major retail game's sales. It never has this gen and it never will.

Has any game had digital incentives of this magnitude? That's a resounding no, I can't think of any that have come even close.

So lock that "it's never happened before" shit up because it doesn't apply here.

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#158  Edited By QuadKnight
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@dynamitecop said:
@quadknight said:
@dynamitecop said:
@quadknight said:

Are you saying this game sold ten times more in digital than retail because that's the only way this would't be a flop.

You're a clown lol.

There's no way of knowing, we have to wait until numbers from all sides are accounted for, it could be months, but until then any early sales data for this game is rendered largely incomplete.

There's a way of knowing, it's called looking at the charts, and based on the charts it's a flop. Anyone without lemming blinders can see this lol.

25K in sales in the UK is abysmal whether you like it or not. Digital sales don't make up for 900% of any major retail game's sales. It never has this gen and it never will.

Has any game had digital incentives of this magnitude? That's a resounding no, I can't think of any that have come even close.

So lock that "it's never happened before" shit up because it doesn't apply here.

I gotta give it to you, you are relentless lol.

Keep that dream alive, it won't stop the rest of us from laughing at you though.

I can't wait for your inevitable meltdown in upcoming NPD threads when its shown that it flopped here in the US as well.

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#159  Edited By dynamitecop
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@quadknight said:
@dynamitecop said:
@quadknight said:
@dynamitecop said:

There's no way of knowing, we have to wait until numbers from all sides are accounted for, it could be months, but until then any early sales data for this game is rendered largely incomplete.

There's a way of knowing, it's called looking at the charts, and based on the charts it's a flop. Anyone without lemming blinders can see this lol.

25K in sales in the UK is abysmal whether you like it or not. Digital sales don't make up for 900% of any major retail game's sales. It never has this gen and it never will.

Has any game had digital incentives of this magnitude? That's a resounding no, I can't think of any that have come even close.

So lock that "it's never happened before" shit up because it doesn't apply here.

I gotta give it to you, you are relentless lol.

Keep that dream alive, it won't stop the rest of us from laughing at you though.

Of course I'm relentless, logic doesn't stop because it's opposed by idiocy.

If you have A. car dealer on one side of the street offering you one car for $60,000, and B. dealer across the street offering the same car, plus another, and two other cars valued at $20,000 and $10,000 all for your initial $60,000, what car dealer are you going to buy from?

The one offering you a car for $60,000, or the other offering you $150,000 worth of cars for $60k?

Use your fucking brain kid.

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@dynamitecop said:
@quadknight said:
@dynamitecop said:
@quadknight said:
@dynamitecop said:

There's no way of knowing, we have to wait until numbers from all sides are accounted for, it could be months, but until then any early sales data for this game is rendered largely incomplete.

There's a way of knowing, it's called looking at the charts, and based on the charts it's a flop. Anyone without lemming blinders can see this lol.

25K in sales in the UK is abysmal whether you like it or not. Digital sales don't make up for 900% of any major retail game's sales. It never has this gen and it never will.

Has any game had digital incentives of this magnitude? That's a resounding no, I can't think of any that have come even close.

So lock that "it's never happened before" shit up because it doesn't apply here.

I gotta give it to you, you are relentless lol.

Keep that dream alive, it won't stop the rest of us from laughing at you though.

Of course I'm relentless, logic doesn't stop because it's opposed.

If you have A. car dealer on one side of the street offering you one car for $60,000, and B. dealer across the street offering the same car, plus another, and two other cars valued at $20,000 and $10,000 all for your initial $60,000, what car dealer are you going to buy from?

The one offering you a car for $60,000, or the other offering you $150,000 worth of cars for $60k?

Sorry bud, but you have nothing to do with logic. You've proved this time and time again.

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@Chutebox said:
@dynamitecop said:

Of course I'm relentless, logic doesn't stop because it's opposed.

If you have A. car dealer on one side of the street offering you one car for $60,000, and B. dealer across the street offering the same car, plus another, and two other cars valued at $20,000 and $10,000 all for your initial $60,000, what car dealer are you going to buy from?

The one offering you a car for $60,000, or the other offering you $150,000 worth of cars for $60k?

Sorry bud, but you have nothing to do with logic. You've proved this time and time again.

Where is the lack of logic here, point it out.

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#162  Edited By QuadKnight
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@dynamitecop said:
@quadknight said:
@dynamitecop said:
@quadknight said:

There's a way of knowing, it's called looking at the charts, and based on the charts it's a flop. Anyone without lemming blinders can see this lol.

25K in sales in the UK is abysmal whether you like it or not. Digital sales don't make up for 900% of any major retail game's sales. It never has this gen and it never will.

Has any game had digital incentives of this magnitude? That's a resounding no, I can't think of any that have come even close.

So lock that "it's never happened before" shit up because it doesn't apply here.

I gotta give it to you, you are relentless lol.

Keep that dream alive, it won't stop the rest of us from laughing at you though.

Of course I'm relentless, logic doesn't stop because it's opposed by idiocy.

If you have A. car dealer on one side of the street offering you one car for $60,000, and B. dealer across the street offering the same car, plus another, and two other cars valued at $20,000 and $10,000 all for your initial $60,000, what car dealer are you going to buy from?

The one offering you a car for $60,000, or the other offering you $150,000 worth of cars for $60k?

Use your fucking brain kid.

Wow, this is comedy gold!

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@quadknight said:
@dynamitecop said:
@quadknight said:
@dynamitecop said:

Has any game had digital incentives of this magnitude? That's a resounding no, I can't think of any that have come even close.

So lock that "it's never happened before" shit up because it doesn't apply here.

I gotta give it to you, you are relentless lol.

Keep that dream alive, it won't stop the rest of us from laughing at you though.

Of course I'm relentless, logic doesn't stop because it's opposed by idiocy.

If you have A. car dealer on one side of the street offering you one car for $60,000, and B. dealer across the street offering the same car, plus another, and two other cars valued at $20,000 and $10,000 all for your initial $60,000, what car dealer are you going to buy from?

The one offering you a car for $60,000, or the other offering you $150,000 worth of cars for $60k?

Use your fucking brain kid.

Wow, this is comedy gold.

Sound analogies to prove a point, hilarious.

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#164 QuadKnight
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@dynamitecop said:
@quadknight said:
@dynamitecop said:
@quadknight said:

I gotta give it to you, you are relentless lol.

Keep that dream alive, it won't stop the rest of us from laughing at you though.

Of course I'm relentless, logic doesn't stop because it's opposed by idiocy.

If you have A. car dealer on one side of the street offering you one car for $60,000, and B. dealer across the street offering the same car, plus another, and two other cars valued at $20,000 and $10,000 all for your initial $60,000, what car dealer are you going to buy from?

The one offering you a car for $60,000, or the other offering you $150,000 worth of cars for $60k?

Use your fucking brain kid.

Wow, this is comedy gold.

Sound analogies to prove a point, hilarious.

Your analogy is one of the most idiotic I've seen, and that's saying something considering this is SW.

Jesus, do you actually believe the bullshit you type?

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@quadknight said:

Your analogy is one of the most idiotic I've seen, and that's saying something considering this is SW.

Jesus, do you actually believe the bullshit you type?

Saying something is idiotic doesn't make it so, you actually have to provide some kind of refuting statement, that of which you've done in zero capacity.

You're unintelligent and incapable of rationally breaking down logical arguments so you shit post.

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@pdogg93 said:

I truly think @dynamitecop suffers from a mental illness. Quantum Break is/was a flop. If you aren't actually being paid by Microsoft, you need help.

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@pdogg93 said:

I truly think @dynamitecop suffers from a mental illness. Quantum Break is/was a flop. If you aren't actually being paid by Microsoft, you need help.

Yea, I think we should be feeling sorry for him and probably not laughing at him. The guy really needs help.

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@dynamitecop said:
@quadknight said:
@dynamitecop said:

Has any game had digital incentives of this magnitude? That's a resounding no, I can't think of any that have come even close.

So lock that "it's never happened before" shit up because it doesn't apply here.

I gotta give it to you, you are relentless lol.

Keep that dream alive, it won't stop the rest of us from laughing at you though.

Of course I'm relentless, logic doesn't stop because it's opposed by idiocy.

If you have A. car dealer on one side of the street offering you one car for $60,000, and B. dealer across the street offering the same car, plus another, and two other cars valued at $20,000 and $10,000 all for your initial $60,000, what car dealer are you going to buy from?

The one offering you a car for $60,000, or the other offering you $150,000 worth of cars for $60k?

Use your fucking brain kid.

yeah...that's a bad analogy.

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#170  Edited By dynamitecop
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@lostrib said:
@dynamitecop said:
@quadknight said:
@dynamitecop said:

Has any game had digital incentives of this magnitude? That's a resounding no, I can't think of any that have come even close.

So lock that "it's never happened before" shit up because it doesn't apply here.

I gotta give it to you, you are relentless lol.

Keep that dream alive, it won't stop the rest of us from laughing at you though.

Of course I'm relentless, logic doesn't stop because it's opposed by idiocy.

If you have A. car dealer on one side of the street offering you one car for $60,000, and B. dealer across the street offering the same car, plus another, and two other cars valued at $20,000 and $10,000 all for your initial $60,000, what car dealer are you going to buy from?

The one offering you a car for $60,000, or the other offering you $150,000 worth of cars for $60k?

Use your fucking brain kid.

yeah...that's a bad analogy.

It's absolutely not, it conveys the point exactly.

Provide explanations or be quiet, it's that simple.

  • Quantum Break (physical pre-order) $60 value
  • Quantum Break (digital pre-order) $150 value
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Lol, obviously not the same person, but DC sounds a lot like tigersuperman at times. And that's no compliment.

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#172  Edited By Heil68
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@shawty_beatz said:
@Heil68 said:
@nethernova said:
@lostrib said:
@kratosyoloswag said:

lol NyaDC thread

https://twitter.com/aarongreenberg/status/720715106003210240

well that pretty much wraps it up

Oh, don't worry. He'll just ignore that he is wrong and completely avoid talking about it. He should probably make yet another account. It's really cringeworthy.

Sad when facts get in the way of honest posting.

@nyadc @b4x @dynamitecop

Care to comment on your failure of a thread or are you still ignoring the hard, cold facts? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Well essentially OP was destroyed with MS's own employee tweet. If you think of it that way, it sure is ironic. I'm sure MS was grasping at straws to get sales, but its sad they tried to deceive customers for their own corporate greed.

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#173  Edited By lostrib
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@dynamitecop said:
@lostrib said:
@dynamitecop said:
@quadknight said:

I gotta give it to you, you are relentless lol.

Keep that dream alive, it won't stop the rest of us from laughing at you though.

Of course I'm relentless, logic doesn't stop because it's opposed by idiocy.

If you have A. car dealer on one side of the street offering you one car for $60,000, and B. dealer across the street offering the same car, plus another, and two other cars valued at $20,000 and $10,000 all for your initial $60,000, what car dealer are you going to buy from?

The one offering you a car for $60,000, or the other offering you $150,000 worth of cars for $60k?

Use your fucking brain kid.

yeah...that's a bad analogy.

It's absolutely not, it conveys the point exactly.

Provide explanations or be quiet, it's that simple.

  • Quantum Break (physical pre-order) $60 value
  • Quantum Break (digital pre-order) $150 value

If you give it any thought it's a rather dumb analogy

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@lostrib said:
@dynamitecop said:
@lostrib said:
@dynamitecop said:
@quadknight said:

I gotta give it to you, you are relentless lol.

Keep that dream alive, it won't stop the rest of us from laughing at you though.

Of course I'm relentless, logic doesn't stop because it's opposed by idiocy.

If you have A. car dealer on one side of the street offering you one car for $60,000, and B. dealer across the street offering the same car, plus another, and two other cars valued at $20,000 and $10,000 all for your initial $60,000, what car dealer are you going to buy from?

The one offering you a car for $60,000, or the other offering you $150,000 worth of cars for $60k?

Use your fucking brain kid.

yeah...that's a bad analogy.

It's absolutely not, it conveys the point exactly.

Provide explanations or be quiet, it's that simple.

  • Quantum Break (physical pre-order) $60 value
  • Quantum Break (digital pre-order) $150 value

If you give it any thought it's a rather dumb analogy

Again, no explanation, your devil's advocate shitck has runs its course.

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@dynamitecop said:
@lostrib said:
@dynamitecop said:
@lostrib said:

yeah...that's a bad analogy.

It's absolutely not, it conveys the point exactly.

Provide explanations or be quiet, it's that simple.

  • Quantum Break (physical pre-order) $60 value
  • Quantum Break (digital pre-order) $150 value

If you give it any thought it's a rather dumb analogy

Again, no explanation, your devil's advocate shitck has runs its course.

Well if you actually took a bit of time to think things over we wouldn't be in this situation. We wouldn't have this thread or your terrible analogy

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@lostrib said:
@dynamitecop said:
@lostrib said:
@dynamitecop said:
@lostrib said:

yeah...that's a bad analogy.

It's absolutely not, it conveys the point exactly.

Provide explanations or be quiet, it's that simple.

  • Quantum Break (physical pre-order) $60 value
  • Quantum Break (digital pre-order) $150 value

If you give it any thought it's a rather dumb analogy

Again, no explanation, your devil's advocate shitck has runs its course.

Well if you actually took a bit of time to think things over we wouldn't be in this situation. We wouldn't have this thread or your terrible analogy

Again, nothing.

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#177 Heil68
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@lostrib said:
@dynamitecop said:
@lostrib said:
@dynamitecop said:
@quadknight said:

I gotta give it to you, you are relentless lol.

Keep that dream alive, it won't stop the rest of us from laughing at you though.

Of course I'm relentless, logic doesn't stop because it's opposed by idiocy.

If you have A. car dealer on one side of the street offering you one car for $60,000, and B. dealer across the street offering the same car, plus another, and two other cars valued at $20,000 and $10,000 all for your initial $60,000, what car dealer are you going to buy from?

The one offering you a car for $60,000, or the other offering you $150,000 worth of cars for $60k?

Use your fucking brain kid.

yeah...that's a bad analogy.

It's absolutely not, it conveys the point exactly.

Provide explanations or be quiet, it's that simple.

  • Quantum Break (physical pre-order) $60 value
  • Quantum Break (digital pre-order) $150 value

If you give it any thought it's a rather dumb analogy

and the entire Alan Wake franchise is on sale for $40 on Steam. Is it really $50 more an Xbox?

I bought retail myself, those incentives did not mean much to me because I already owned the AW games, but I'd still get retail as to me it is a better value than DD>

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#178  Edited By dynamitecop
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@Heil68 said:
@lostrib said:
@dynamitecop said:
@lostrib said:
@dynamitecop said:

Of course I'm relentless, logic doesn't stop because it's opposed by idiocy.

If you have A. car dealer on one side of the street offering you one car for $60,000, and B. dealer across the street offering the same car, plus another, and two other cars valued at $20,000 and $10,000 all for your initial $60,000, what car dealer are you going to buy from?

The one offering you a car for $60,000, or the other offering you $150,000 worth of cars for $60k?

Use your fucking brain kid.

yeah...that's a bad analogy.

It's absolutely not, it conveys the point exactly.

Provide explanations or be quiet, it's that simple.

  • Quantum Break (physical pre-order) $60 value
  • Quantum Break (digital pre-order) $150 value

If you give it any thought it's a rather dumb analogy

and the entire Alan Wake franchise is on sale for $40 on Steam. Is it really $50 more an Xbox?

I bought retail myself, those incentives did not mean much to me because I already owned the AW games, but I'd still get retail as to me it is a better value than DD>

Xbox One version of Quantum Break $60, PC version of Quantum Break $60, Alan Wake + Signal/Writer $20, Alan Wake's American Nightmare $10, total value = $150

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#179 lostrib
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@dynamitecop said:
@lostrib said:
@dynamitecop said:
@lostrib said:
@dynamitecop said:

It's absolutely not, it conveys the point exactly.

Provide explanations or be quiet, it's that simple.

  • Quantum Break (physical pre-order) $60 value
  • Quantum Break (digital pre-order) $150 value

If you give it any thought it's a rather dumb analogy

Again, no explanation, your devil's advocate shitck has runs its course.

Well if you actually took a bit of time to think things over we wouldn't be in this situation. We wouldn't have this thread or your terrible analogy

Again, nothing.

Well for starters, pretty much everyone would think something shady is going on if someone is trying to sell you 4 cars for the price of one. Also, someone interested in getting a single car, probably doesn't want to deal with 4 fucking cars all of a sudden. And then I'm sure there would be some significant tax issues. Also, comparing cars to videogames is dumb

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#180  Edited By dynamitecop
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@lostrib said:
@dynamitecop said:
@lostrib said:
@dynamitecop said:
@lostrib said:

If you give it any thought it's a rather dumb analogy

Again, no explanation, your devil's advocate shitck has runs its course.

Well if you actually took a bit of time to think things over we wouldn't be in this situation. We wouldn't have this thread or your terrible analogy

Again, nothing.

Well for starters, pretty much everyone would think something shady is going on if someone is trying to sell you 4 cars for the price of one. Also, someone interested in getting a single car, probably doesn't want to deal with 4 fucking cars all of a sudden. And then I'm sure there would be some significant tax issues. Also, comparing cars to videogames is dumb

Those are illogical interjections and the result of over-thinking an analogy as something literal, you're stupid.

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#181  Edited By lostrib
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@dynamitecop said:
@lostrib said:
@dynamitecop said:
@lostrib said:

Well if you actually took a bit of time to think things over we wouldn't be in this situation. We wouldn't have this thread or your terrible analogy

Again, nothing.

Well for starters, pretty much everyone would think something shady is going on if someone is trying to sell you 4 cars for the price of one. Also, someone interested in getting a single car, probably doesn't want to deal with 4 fucking cars all of a sudden. And then I'm sure there would be some significant tax issues. Also, comparing cars to videogames is dumb

Those are illogical interjections and the result of over-thinking an analogy as something literal, you're stupid.

You asked what dealership someone would go to, those are all reasonable considerations when answering that question

...or just see my last point that comparing cars to video games is dumb

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#182  Edited By dynamitecop
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@lostrib said:
@dynamitecop said:
@lostrib said:
@dynamitecop said:
@lostrib said:

Well if you actually took a bit of time to think things over we wouldn't be in this situation. We wouldn't have this thread or your terrible analogy

Again, nothing.

Well for starters, pretty much everyone would think something shady is going on if someone is trying to sell you 4 cars for the price of one. Also, someone interested in getting a single car, probably doesn't want to deal with 4 fucking cars all of a sudden. And then I'm sure there would be some significant tax issues. Also, comparing cars to videogames is dumb

Those are illogical interjections and the result of over-thinking an analogy as something literal, you're stupid.

You asked what dealership someone would go through, those are all reasonable considerations when answering that question

...or just see my last point that comparing cars to video games is dumb

The analogy works fine, again, you're trying to make literal comparisons to figurative examples, get lost freshman.

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#183 lostrib
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@dynamitecop said:
@lostrib said:
@dynamitecop said:
@lostrib said:
@dynamitecop said:

Again, nothing.

Well for starters, pretty much everyone would think something shady is going on if someone is trying to sell you 4 cars for the price of one. Also, someone interested in getting a single car, probably doesn't want to deal with 4 fucking cars all of a sudden. And then I'm sure there would be some significant tax issues. Also, comparing cars to videogames is dumb

Those are illogical interjections and the result of over-thinking an analogy as something literal, you're stupid.

You asked what dealership someone would go through, those are all reasonable considerations when answering that question

...or just see my last point that comparing cars to video games is dumb

The analogy works fine, again, you're trying to make literal comparisons to figurative examples, get lost freshman.

it obviously doesn't work fine, those points applied to the question you were asking. And it's flawed regardless because you're making assumptions about the value to people. Yeah that may be the MSRP of those items, but that may not be what they actually end up being worth. For example, if someone is an X1 gamer and they can already get the physical copy for 20% off, what the **** do they care about the PC copy with the $60 digital version. Also, people view the worth of digital and physical goods differently. It's a flawed comparison, no matter how many insults you try to deflect with

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#184 scatteh316
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Xbone has no games so is it any wonder it sold well

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#185  Edited By StrongBlackVine
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@blessedbyhorus: No it didn't. Spencer took full responsibility for that deal and he bought it to compete against Uncharted.

Even more annoying was how he tried to pretend it was a real exclusive and was never coming to PlayStation. He is as shady as any other suit.

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@dynamitecop: And next time they say something misleading you will swallow down again without question just like you always do.

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#187  Edited By StrongBlackVine
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Single player only games with low replay value do not have high digital attach rates. This guy is claiming QB has higher digital tie ins than games like Destiny and The Division. Quantum Break is the type of game you play once or twice then sell or trade. There is a good reason Remedy is considering adding multiplayer to their future games.

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@StrongBlackVine said:

Single player only games with low replay value do not have high digital attach rates. This guy is claiming QB has higher digital tie ins than games like Destiny and The Division. Quantum Break is the type of game you play once or twice then sell or trade. There is a good reason Remedy is considering adding multiplayer to their future games.

He's a paid shill. I'm surprised no one has realized he's Mooch by now.

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@dynamitecop said:
@lostrib said:
@dynamitecop said:
@quadknight said:
@dynamitecop said:

Has any game had digital incentives of this magnitude? That's a resounding no, I can't think of any that have come even close.

So lock that "it's never happened before" shit up because it doesn't apply here.

I gotta give it to you, you are relentless lol.

Keep that dream alive, it won't stop the rest of us from laughing at you though.

Of course I'm relentless, logic doesn't stop because it's opposed by idiocy.

If you have A. car dealer on one side of the street offering you one car for $60,000, and B. dealer across the street offering the same car, plus another, and two other cars valued at $20,000 and $10,000 all for your initial $60,000, what car dealer are you going to buy from?

The one offering you a car for $60,000, or the other offering you $150,000 worth of cars for $60k?

Use your fucking brain kid.

yeah...that's a bad analogy.

It's absolutely not, it conveys the point exactly.

Provide explanations or be quiet, it's that simple.

  • Quantum Break (physical pre-order) $60 value
  • Quantum Break (digital pre-order) $150 value

You forgot to mention that car dealer B gives you a digital car while car dealer A actually gives you a real car.

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@dynamitecop said:

The Street Fighter V thing is a pretty close comparison, they money hatted Capcom for "exclusivity" no matter which way you dice it. They say the game wouldn't have been made without Sony, no one actually believes that though due to it being such a transparent situation, it's not like the franchise doesn't sell itself based upon the name alone.

If you're not bashing Sony for what was done with that game, you have no right to bash Square/Microsoft, hell the Street Fighter thing is an even worse situation, it's apparently never coming out on Xbox.

Yes because MS didn't money hat Capcom for Dead Rising 3 before Sony did right.?

And lol capcom say the same shit about Dead Rising 3 to..lol

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/capcom-dead-rising-3-only-possible-because-of-micr-29406609/

You people have some shitty memory.

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#191  Edited By dynamitecop
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@tormentos said:
@dynamitecop said:

The Street Fighter V thing is a pretty close comparison, they money hatted Capcom for "exclusivity" no matter which way you dice it. They say the game wouldn't have been made without Sony, no one actually believes that though due to it being such a transparent situation, it's not like the franchise doesn't sell itself based upon the name alone.

If you're not bashing Sony for what was done with that game, you have no right to bash Square/Microsoft, hell the Street Fighter thing is an even worse situation, it's apparently never coming out on Xbox.

Yes because MS didn't money hat Capcom for Dead Rising 3 before Sony did right.?

And lol capcom say the same shit about Dead Rising 3 to..lol

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/capcom-dead-rising-3-only-possible-because-of-micr-29406609/

You people have some shitty memory.

Who is forgetting anything, both of these stupid ass companies do it, the problem is the denial from cows.

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10/10.....pretty good backfire thread.

Nyadc makes another one of his ridiculous threads.

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@mr_huggles_dog said:

10/10.....pretty good backfire thread.

Nyadc makes another one of his ridiculous threads.

Hey, it's not his fault he didn't actually read the article.

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#194  Edited By Mr_Huggles_dog
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@Chutebox: I hear that's how it goes.

I'm going to remember that one, for sure.

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#195 NathanDrakeSwag
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@dynamitecop said:
@tormentos said:
@dynamitecop said:

The Street Fighter V thing is a pretty close comparison, they money hatted Capcom for "exclusivity" no matter which way you dice it. They say the game wouldn't have been made without Sony, no one actually believes that though due to it being such a transparent situation, it's not like the franchise doesn't sell itself based upon the name alone.

If you're not bashing Sony for what was done with that game, you have no right to bash Square/Microsoft, hell the Street Fighter thing is an even worse situation, it's apparently never coming out on Xbox.

Yes because MS didn't money hat Capcom for Dead Rising 3 before Sony did right.?

And lol capcom say the same shit about Dead Rising 3 to..lol

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/capcom-dead-rising-3-only-possible-because-of-micr-29406609/

You people have some shitty memory.

Who is forgetting anything, both of these stupid ass companies do it, the problem is the denial from cows.

Says the biggest xbot on this site.

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@StrongBlackVine said:

@blessedbyhorus: No it didn't. Spencer took full responsibility for that deal and he bought it to compete against Uncharted.

Even more annoying was how he tried to pretend it was a real exclusive and was never coming to PlayStation. He is as shady as any other suit.

Didn't he make it a point to say it was a timed exclusive? And I could have sworn that the deal between MS and Square Enix took place before Phil was put in charge, Just that Phil took over And I could have also sworn that Phil stated that he not only disliked third party timed deals but no longer wants to do them.

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#197 Ten_Pints
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@blessedbyhorus said:
@StrongBlackVine said:

@blessedbyhorus: No it didn't. Spencer took full responsibility for that deal and he bought it to compete against Uncharted.

Even more annoying was how he tried to pretend it was a real exclusive and was never coming to PlayStation. He is as shady as any other suit.

Didn't he make it a point to say it was a timed exclusive? And I could have sworn that the deal between MS and Square Enix took place before Phil was put in charge, Just that Phil took over And I could have also sworn that Phil stated that he not only disliked third party timed deals but no longer wants to do them.

He said something about spending the money on first party instead, so far it hasn't panned out too well. The real reason is third party exclusives are too expensive for Microsoft, for any publisher to bite they would have to cover the lost sales on PS4, so Microsoft would have to stump up the cash for 2 copies of the game for every game sold on Xbox One for anybody to even consider it, you can see how that would not be viable.

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#198 StrongBlackVine
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@blessedbyhorus: He compared the ROTR deal to Dead Rising 3 and Ryse...meaning he tried really hard to imply it would come to PC, but not PlayStation. It was slimy.

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@StrongBlackVine said:

@blessedbyhorus: He compared the ROTR deal to Dead Rising 3 and Ryse...meaning he tried really hard to imply it would come to PC, but not PlayStation. It was slimy.

I think I remember that. Not good.

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#200  Edited By Heil68
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@Chutebox said:
@mr_huggles_dog said:

10/10.....pretty good backfire thread.

Nyadc makes another one of his ridiculous threads.

Hey, it's not his fault he didn't actually read the article.

but it was a tweet from Greenberg himself