Quantum Break biggest-selling Microsoft Game Studios new IP this generation for Xbox One

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#51  Edited By SolidTy
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@Heil68 said:
@SolidTy said:

Lol people swallowing dishonest Greenberg's PR/Marketing/Spin/lies all these years later. Greenberg was the marketing/professional liar from the old Xbox Mattrick regime...I would think the intelligent Xbox fans among us would avoid quoting him ever again.

by Aaron Greenberg Xbox Games Marketing

No need to continue reading that drivel once you read the byline. Greenberg's lies and PR still being used as some sort of evidence of anything...hahaha.

@kratosyoloswag said:
@Chutebox said:

So, I was right then?

NyaDC/dynamite was wrong, as usual. Greenberg straight up lied, he's pretty much saying it has a good chance of eventually passing Ryse lmao.

Then again, Microsoft has another article claiming Quantum Break is critically-acclaimed: http://news.xbox.com/2016/04/05/quantum-break-now-available-xbox/

They either love lying to their fans or they're delusional or both.

The 77/100 metascoring Quantum Break? (http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-one/quantum-break) Good one, Greenberg. His job is marketing and people love to buy into his every spinning lie despite all these many years later.

@lostrib said:
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lol NyaDC thread

https://twitter.com/aarongreenberg/status/720715106003210240

well that pretty much wraps it up

Indeed.

Golly, that's a SHOCKING revelation and maybe even SCANDALOUS?????

Good Gravy what is Greenberg thinking????

LONG, LONG TIME Marketeer-liar extraordinaire Greenberg was still hoping some insane fans would quote and bank on his double speak. It requires completely omitting/forgetting what Greenbergs job is (marketing PR spin) and how often Greenberg has been exposed as a liar over the many years.

Greenberg is one of the worst (which might be a good think for his job) under Mattrick and it's a shame Spencer kept him around.

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#52 silversix_
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What was their other new MS studio titles? Its like the only game so it won against itself? lolol

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#53 KratosYOLOSwag
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@silversix_ said:

What was their other new MS studio titles? Its like the only game so it won against itself? lolol

Now that I think about it, the only other new MS owned IP released at retail this gen was Screamride.

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@kratosyoloswag said:
@silversix_ said:

What was their other new MS studio titles? Its like the only game so it won against itself? lolol

Now that I think about it, the only other new MS owned IP released at retail this gen was Screamride.

Nah, this was about MS published games.

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#56 N64DD
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So this thread got murdered it under 2 pages? Impressive.

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#57  Edited By Mr_Huggles_dog
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@dynamitecop: Come on Nyadc....you know this game is a flop. Destiny was declared a flop and it sold like hot cakes. As other games have done before. QB wasn't the first and it won't be the last.

QB was suppose to rival games like UC....as it stands it doesn't even rival Until Dawn as UD has a higher metacritic rating.

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#58 deactivated-583e460ca986b
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Video game journalist are actually irrelevant. This news and more at 11.

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#59  Edited By ellos
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@kratosyoloswag said:
@n64dd said:

This thread will end well.

I kinda put it to an end already lol

https://twitter.com/aarongreenberg/status/720715106003210240

Eh this is SW, you should know better that this thread will not end. Predictions are valid facts when it comes to delivering much needed PR spin. Its going to happen soon any ways, so why not spin great news to fans today. Microsoft has been fantastic this gen.

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#60 dynamitecop
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@dynamitecop: Come on Nyadc....you know this game is a flop. Destiny was declared a flop and it sold like hot cakes. As other games have done before. QB wasn't the first and it won't be the last.

Destiny was a flop because the game was lacking cohesiveness, story and large amounts of content held back, Quantum Break is a flop for what exactly?

The problem with people is they can't objectively rate something for what it is, does and how it presents itself. Bloodborne for example, I greatly dislike it, I hate it in some degrees and it's not my cup of tea, but I can understand why people do and I can still objectively acknowledge what is there and what makes it a good game.

Quantum Break? Yeah, that didn't happen, instead of people holding back their personal feelings they used them directly to steer their reviews, that's a problem. There were a lot of "I don't like this", "I didn't get this" or "this didn't work right" (when it actually does and they just suck) type of things in the lower end reviews and it's quite obvious the game didn't click for them. Now I know reviews are largely subjective and people are free to have their opinions, but a real level of objectivity still needs to be maintained at the same time, you have to base the issues on what are actually issues instead of your own personal shortcomings, feelings and dislikes.

"Sloppy movement and weapon controls"

Things like this are a problem that are a great example, that's not true at all, you just have to familiarize yourself with them and then you won't have any problem. Comments like that remind me of people who make excuses in Counter-Strike when they get killed, always prone to blame the game or some other happenstance instead of their own mistakes, or lacking personal abilities to do something.

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#61 Mr_Huggles_dog
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@mems_1224 said:

Lol at strongblackvine having a meltdown in this thread.

Rather have a Gamespot user claimed "meltdown" than be an actual tool like TC.

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#63 KEND0_KAP0NI
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so many people wasted their money buying this at $60

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I don't get why everyone hates the TC.

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#65 KratosYOLOSwag
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@beardmad said:

I don't get why everyone hates the TC.

We love the TC. Probably the most entertaining poster on here.

Creator of legendary threads like this:

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/could-the-xbox-one-possible-catch-the-playstation--32015884/

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#66 Ant_17
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Considering the install base, i'm certain PC sales are also counted.

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@beardmad said:

I don't get why everyone hates the TC.

Sarcasm?

And hate's a strong word. He's just a dunce.

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@Ant_17 said:

Considering the install base, i'm certain PC sales are also counted.

To be fair, I doubt lots of people buy the PC port.

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#69  Edited By Mr_Huggles_dog
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@dynamitecop: come on....it's like I said.

Its not even an Until Dawn killer. UD has 79(?) metacritic rating and enough reviewers collectively thought bad enough of QB to not even get a better score than 79(?).

One or 2 reviewers....whatever.

But bad to mediocre opinions seem to be a recurring theme.

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#70 KEND0_KAP0NI
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I am squite sure they meant debut and not total sales. You know this as well or you are completely out of your mind if you really think Quantum Break sold 1.3 million copies so far. It only sold 27k at UK retail and will probably struggle to 200k in April NPD. It is a critical and commercial disappointment. Nice to see you still crying about though.

I will continue to twist the knife in whenever you try to get some false hope.

this.

He thinks it out sold Ryse 1.3 million life time, when Ryse is also on PC.

Secondly since M$ isnt putting out numbers (which is a bad sign) Im guessing the are bending some stats to make that claim.

Like you said, most like just the biggest in terms of first 1 buys on the X1 (not like the X1 has had much to beat records with).

To putt this into perspective... TLoU sold 1.3 million its first week.... for a total of 5.9m on the PS3, 4.7m on the PS4.

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#71  Edited By Daious
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@dynamitecop said:
@Chutebox said:
@dynamitecop said:
@Chutebox said:

from your link, "and is now officially the biggest-selling new Microsoft Studios published IP this generation."

And that picture is the header to that article, so yeah, get a clue.

Wow. You're an idiot.

It's either a misprint in the title or the article. Good luck getting that stick out of your ass.

lol that's rich, a misprint haha...

What a clown, people can't just be happy that the game did good on a console that pisses them off, jokes, all of you.

Based on Greenburg's announcement on twitter and his twitter comments it actually seems like a misprint. He stated claim is for all new IP we have published on twitter and the article states that officially the biggest-selling new Microsoft Studios published IP this generation. The article title is either a typo or avoids mentioning the PC to fluff the news.

He also clarified on twitter that it is based on first weeks sale. He fails to mention this fact in the article. This is just a fluff piece.

Your 1.3 million estimation was ridiculous. I am shocked even you thought that.

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#72  Edited By StrongBlackVine
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@mems_1224 said:

Lol at strongblackvine having a meltdown in this thread.

That is one way to spin me exposing that the number NyaDC brought as complete bullshit before the topic could even get going. Even more hilarious that his source is VgChartz. If it was legit then great, but nah I'm not gonna let him try to puff up this flop again with made up numbers.

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#73  Edited By Daious
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@StrongBlackVine said:
@mems_1224 said:

Lol at strongblackvine having a meltdown in this thread.

That is one way to spin me exposing that the number NyaDC brought as complete bullshit before the topic could even get going. Even more hilarious that his source is VgChartz. If it was legit then great, but nah I'm not gonna let him try to puff up this flop again with made up numbers.

If anything, Greenberg's twitter completely destroyed his argument. No outside source was needed. It was based on MS published IP and it was only first week sales.

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NyaDC looks like a complete idiot now that Greenberg has confirmed that this was indeed first week sales only. These lems are so desperate they make up shit and hope no one calls the out. Just give up trying to defend this flop. Beating out freaking Ryse's first week sales(a launch title at that) is nothing to be proud of!

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#75 lamprey263
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Well, it was marketed well enough, encouraged pre-orders with Alan Wake BC, and had bundles... but, seriously, no caveat?

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@SolidTy said:

Lol people swallowing dishonest Greenberg's PR/Marketing/Spin/lies all these years later. Greenberg was the marketing/professional liar from the old Xbox Mattrick regime...I would think the intelligent Xbox fans among us would avoid quoting him ever again.

by Aaron Greenberg Xbox Games Marketing

No need to continue reading that drivel once you read the byline. Greenberg's lies and PR still being used as some sort of evidence of anything...hahaha.

@kratosyoloswag said:
@Chutebox said:

So, I was right then?

NyaDC/dynamite was wrong, as usual. Greenberg straight up lied, he's pretty much saying it has a good chance of eventually passing Ryse lmao.

Then again, Microsoft has another article claiming Quantum Break is critically-acclaimed: http://news.xbox.com/2016/04/05/quantum-break-now-available-xbox/

They either love lying to their fans or they're delusional or both.

The 77/100 metascoring Quantum Break? (http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-one/quantum-break) Good one, Greenberg. His job is marketing and people love to buy into his every spinning lie despite all these many years later.

@lostrib said:
@kratosyoloswag said:

lol NyaDC thread

https://twitter.com/aarongreenberg/status/720715106003210240

well that pretty much wraps it up

Indeed.

Wait, so if 70/93 reviews for the game are positive by Metacritics metric then saying the game is critically-acclaimed is lie? That's 75% of the reviews being considered positive for the game. I'm going to call bullshit on it just being Greenberg lying in that regard. That is in fact critical acclaim. It may not be the level you or kratosballbagsweat want it to be, but it doesn't negate that is 75% of the reviews for the game being critically positive.

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#77 StrongBlackVine
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@blackace said:
@StrongBlackVine said:

@Chutebox: It's not true. At least the 1.3 million in 9 days isn't Notice that Microsoft did not say that and let's their delusional fanboys run with it. April NPD will be hilarious when Quantum Flop barely charts with 200k or less.

I think the biggest question is if Quantum Break is in the Top 10 on April NPD list will you be eating 100lbs of crow?

If Quantum Flop can't even crack the Top 10 in a weak April month Remedy might as well shut down! I already said it would chart, but it won't be an impressive number. Flops chart all the time. Street Fighter charted...means absolutely nothing if numbers are low.

Same as Quantum Break being being Microsoft's best selling new IP meaning absolutely nothing when you realize that Ryse and Sunset Overdrive are the only competition.

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so many people wasted their money buying this at $60

Beggars can't be choosers. This is all lems have until Gears in October.

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@StrongBlackVine: him being wrong doesn't make you look any less pathetic in this thread. You managed to make yourself look worse. Congrats

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@kratosyoloswag said:
@Chutebox said:

So, I was right then?

NyaDC was wrong, as usual. Greenberg straight up lied, he's pretty much saying it has a good chance of eventually passing Ryse lmao.

Then again, Microsoft has another article claiming Quantum Break is critically-acclaimed: http://news.xbox.com/2016/04/05/quantum-break-now-available-xbox/

They either love lying to their fans or they're delusional or both.

I predict that NyaDC will be gone for a while, but Kvally will be back. :)

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#81  Edited By NathanDrakeSwag
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@StrongBlackVine said:
@kratosyoloswag said:
@Chutebox said:

So, I was right then?

NyaDC was wrong, as usual. Greenberg straight up lied, he's pretty much saying it has a good chance of eventually passing Ryse lmao.

Then again, Microsoft has another article claiming Quantum Break is critically-acclaimed: http://news.xbox.com/2016/04/05/quantum-break-now-available-xbox/

They either love lying to their fans or they're delusional or both.

I predict that NyaDC will be gone for a while, but Kvally will be back. :)

And blackace/spicymeatball27.

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@Chutebox said:
@kratosyoloswag said:
@silversix_ said:

What was their other new MS studio titles? Its like the only game so it won against itself? lolol

Now that I think about it, the only other new MS owned IP released at retail this gen was Screamride.

Nah, this was about MS published games.

Guess hate makes reading comprehension not important

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#83  Edited By StrongBlackVine
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@mems_1224 said:

@StrongBlackVine: him being wrong doesn't make you look any less pathetic in this thread. You managed to make yourself look worse. Congrats

Only thing that matters to me is that I was right. Haven't you realized by now that I don't give shit what any one here thinks of me? I'm not here to make friends and play games with you all on the weekends. I'm here to talk shit about Xbox whenever the opportunity presents itself....just like you do with Sony. Asshole.

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#84  Edited By jg4xchamp
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It didn't do 1.3 million, and I doubt it had some massive digital boost. That said, I'm sure it's doing reasonably well, and more importantly: new ips doing well is a good thing, even new ips that *gasp* are "only" a 78 on Metacritic.

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@StrongBlackVine: except I'm mostly joking when I troll and you're completely serious. Again, extremely pathetic.

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@jg4xchamp said:

It didn't do 1.3 million, and I doubt it had some massive digital boost. That said, I'm sure it's doing reasonably well, and more importantly: new ips doing well is a good thing, even new ips that *gasp* are "only" a 78 on Metacritic.

77...which is not a bad score. But it is a flop the supposed "Uncharted killer" a the only big for Xbox One the first half of year. Yeah Sony had a flop with SFV, but Ratchet & Clark and Uncharted are making up for that. Nothing is on the horizon for Xflop until freaking October..

Funny how Bloodborne was so niche yet Xbox hasn't released a single new IP that can outsell it. And please spare me the excuse bout it just being another Souls game because lems said it was gonna be a flop regardless.

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#87  Edited By StrongBlackVine
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@mems_1224 said:

@StrongBlackVine: except I'm mostly joking when I troll and you're completely serious. Again, extremely pathetic.

Again I don't care what you think. And it funny as Hell that you think your constant bashing of Sony is somehow less pathetic because you are "only joking." Also I don't believe you are joking for a second. You have been consistent in your anti-Sony trolling for years. You don't carry on like that for YEARS just to joke. You are just as much of a King Lem as NyaDC only less dramatic.

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#88  Edited By Daious
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@mems_1224 said:

@StrongBlackVine: him being wrong doesn't make you look any less pathetic in this thread. You managed to make yourself look worse. Congrats

To be fair, the article was written so vague that you could argue it was misleading. He wasn't wrong about being skeptical about the numbers. It was unrealistic. He ended up being right. He just tried so ridiculously hard to make the point across. It could have been worse. We both have seen worse here.

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#89  Edited By super600  Moderator
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It's the best selling new MS studio IP in it's launch week. I do think this game will break 1 million sold eventually(probably within a year).

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#90 StrongBlackVine
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@daious said:
@mems_1224 said:

@StrongBlackVine: him being wrong doesn't make you look any less pathetic in this thread. You managed to make yourself look worse. Congrats

To be fair, the article was written so vague that you could argue it was misleading. He wasn't wrong about being skeptical about the numbers. It was unrealistic. He ended up being right. He just tried so ridiculously hard to make the point across. It could have been worse.

Yeah I did push kind of hard, but I'll admit I get excited when I get a chance to shut NyaDC's lies and damage control. Especially when I KNOW I'm right.

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@StrongBlackVine: I talk a lot of shit about a lot of things but unlike you I actually like and play games. Even franchises and genres I constantly talk shit about. I'm not a crazy person like you

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#92  Edited By dynamitecop
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@StrongBlackVine said:
@jg4xchamp said:

It didn't do 1.3 million, and I doubt it had some massive digital boost. That said, I'm sure it's doing reasonably well, and more importantly: new ips doing well is a good thing, even new ips that *gasp* are "only" a 78 on Metacritic.

77...which is not a bad score. But it is a flop the supposed "Uncharted killer" a the only big for Xbox One the first half of year. Yeah Sony had a flop with SFV, but Ratchet & Clark and Uncharted are making up for that. Nothing is on the horizon for Xflop until freaking October..

Funny how Bloodborne was so niche yet Xbox hasn't released a single new IP that can outsell it. And please spare me the excuse bout it just being another Souls game because lems said it was gonna be a flop regardless.

I think the only people who billed Quantum Break as "Uncharted killer" were cows inserting that term into discussions as if other people were saying it, no one even drew comparisons between it and Uncharted up until like a month ago. What is there to even compare about it? They're both 3rd person? They're both running new graphics technology? I mean the material for a comparison between these two games pretty much begins and ends right there.

Bloodborne is a new IP that isn't really a "new" IP, let's be honest here, it's a slightly different take on a Souls game, it could be considered a standalone expansion in all reality; thus it already has an ingrained and existing player base ready to go from the onset.

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#93 StrongBlackVine
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@dynamitecop said:
@StrongBlackVine said:
@jg4xchamp said:

It didn't do 1.3 million, and I doubt it had some massive digital boost. That said, I'm sure it's doing reasonably well, and more importantly: new ips doing well is a good thing, even new ips that *gasp* are "only" a 78 on Metacritic.

77...which is not a bad score. But it is a flop the supposed "Uncharted killer" a the only big for Xbox One the first half of year. Yeah Sony had a flop with SFV, but Ratchet & Clark and Uncharted are making up for that. Nothing is on the horizon for Xflop until freaking October..

Funny how Bloodborne was so niche yet Xbox hasn't released a single new IP that can outsell it. And please spare me the excuse bout it just being another Souls game because lems said it was gonna be a flop regardless.

I think the only people who billed Quantum Break as "Uncharted killer" were cows inserting that term into discussions as if other people were saying it, no one even drew comparisons between it and Uncharted up until like a month ago. What is there to even compare about it? They're both 3rd person? They're both running new graphics technology? I mean the material for a comparison between these two games pretty much begins and ends right there.

Bloodborne is a new IP that isn't really a "new" IP, let's be honest here, it's a slightly different take on a Souls game, it could be considered a standalone expansion in all reality; thus it already has an ingrained and existing player base ready to go from the onset.

You say that now about Bloodborne, but before it release you said would score in the 70s and be lucky to sell a million. Now it its at 92 and pushing towards 3 million lifetime sale in a little over a year. Don't try to revise history now.

As far as Quantum Break is concerned all I read leading up to the launch was possibly the next megahit franchise for Xbox(it needs one desperately), serious GOTY candidate with a high 80s to low 90s metascore. Microsoft even let reviews come out a week early because they were so confident in the product. I'll admit myself I had it pegged around 85. There was some real debate going on here about whether it would score higher than Uncharted 4.

You can't cushion how badly this game failed to meet expectations.

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#94  Edited By dynamitecop
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@StrongBlackVine said:
@dynamitecop said:
@StrongBlackVine said:
@jg4xchamp said:

It didn't do 1.3 million, and I doubt it had some massive digital boost. That said, I'm sure it's doing reasonably well, and more importantly: new ips doing well is a good thing, even new ips that *gasp* are "only" a 78 on Metacritic.

77...which is not a bad score. But it is a flop the supposed "Uncharted killer" a the only big for Xbox One the first half of year. Yeah Sony had a flop with SFV, but Ratchet & Clark and Uncharted are making up for that. Nothing is on the horizon for Xflop until freaking October..

Funny how Bloodborne was so niche yet Xbox hasn't released a single new IP that can outsell it. And please spare me the excuse bout it just being another Souls game because lems said it was gonna be a flop regardless.

I think the only people who billed Quantum Break as "Uncharted killer" were cows inserting that term into discussions as if other people were saying it, no one even drew comparisons between it and Uncharted up until like a month ago. What is there to even compare about it? They're both 3rd person? They're both running new graphics technology? I mean the material for a comparison between these two games pretty much begins and ends right there.

Bloodborne is a new IP that isn't really a "new" IP, let's be honest here, it's a slightly different take on a Souls game, it could be considered a standalone expansion in all reality; thus it already has an ingrained and existing player base ready to go from the onset.

You say that now about Bloodborne, but before it release you said would score in the 70s and be lucky to sell a million. Now it its at 92 and pushing towards 3 million lifetime sale in a little over a year. Don't try to revise history now.

As far as Quantum Break is concerned all I read leading up to the launch was possibly the next megahit franchise for Xbox(it needs one desperately), serious GOTY candidate with a high 80s to low 90s metascore. Microsoft even let reviews come out a week early because they were so confident in the product. I'll admit myself I had it pegged around 85. There was some real debate going on here about whether it would score higher than Uncharted 4.

You can't cushion how badly this game failed to meet expectations.

My reasoning behind that was fatigue, I figured people would be tired of the 'same' game again, that was proven incorrect and even more so with Dark Soul III, though people are beginning to highlight their fatigue now.

Who's to say it's not GOTY material? You live in this world where you seem to think that GameSpot is the only gaming media site on Earth, the game has 96 other published reviews, 23 of which are 90+.

Failed to meet whose expectations? You seem to think that singular views are global for some odd reason, it met mine, it met most others, it was different than I thought it would be for sure, but it was still a very solid game that I'm glad I got to play.

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@dynamitecop said:
@StrongBlackVine said:
@dynamitecop said:
@StrongBlackVine said:

77...which is not a bad score. But it is a flop the supposed "Uncharted killer" a the only big for Xbox One the first half of year. Yeah Sony had a flop with SFV, but Ratchet & Clark and Uncharted are making up for that. Nothing is on the horizon for Xflop until freaking October..

Funny how Bloodborne was so niche yet Xbox hasn't released a single new IP that can outsell it. And please spare me the excuse bout it just being another Souls game because lems said it was gonna be a flop regardless.

I think the only people who billed Quantum Break as "Uncharted killer" were cows inserting that term into discussions as if other people were saying it, no one even drew comparisons between it and Uncharted up until like a month ago. What is there to even compare about it? They're both 3rd person? They're both running new graphics technology? I mean the material for a comparison between these two games pretty much begins and ends right there.

Bloodborne is a new IP that isn't really a "new" IP, let's be honest here, it's a slightly different take on a Souls game, it could be considered a standalone expansion in all reality; thus it already has an ingrained and existing player base ready to go from the onset.

You say that now about Bloodborne, but before it release you said would score in the 70s and be lucky to sell a million. Now it its at 92 and pushing towards 3 million lifetime sale in a little over a year. Don't try to revise history now.

As far as Quantum Break is concerned all I read leading up to the launch was possibly the next megahit franchise for Xbox(it needs one desperately), serious GOTY candidate with a high 80s to low 90s metascore. Microsoft even let reviews come out a week early because they were so confident in the product. I'll admit myself I had it pegged around 85. There was some real debate going on here about whether it would score higher than Uncharted 4.

You can't cushion how badly this game failed to meet expectations.

My reasoning behind that was fatigue, I figured people would be tired of the 'same' game again, that was proven incorrect and even more so with Dark Soul III, though people are beginning to highlight their fatigue now.

Who's to say it's not GOTY material? You live in this world where you seem to think that GameSpot is the only gaming media site on Earth, the game has 96 other published reviews, 23 of which are 90+.

Failed to meet whose expectations? You seem to think that singular views are global for some odd reason, it met mine, it met most others, it was different than I thought it would be for sure, but it was still a very solid game that I'm glad I got to play.

Gamespot score is irrelevant. The 77 metascore is VERY relevant. When is last time a game with a 77 metascore was up for some serious awards at the end of the year? It might manage get a GOTY award from one publication as even Dead Island managed that, but it mostly certainly will not be in the discussion as one of the top 4 or 5 games of the year.

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@StrongBlackVine said:
@dynamitecop said:
@StrongBlackVine said:
@dynamitecop said:
@StrongBlackVine said:

77...which is not a bad score. But it is a flop the supposed "Uncharted killer" a the only big for Xbox One the first half of year. Yeah Sony had a flop with SFV, but Ratchet & Clark and Uncharted are making up for that. Nothing is on the horizon for Xflop until freaking October..

Funny how Bloodborne was so niche yet Xbox hasn't released a single new IP that can outsell it. And please spare me the excuse bout it just being another Souls game because lems said it was gonna be a flop regardless.

I think the only people who billed Quantum Break as "Uncharted killer" were cows inserting that term into discussions as if other people were saying it, no one even drew comparisons between it and Uncharted up until like a month ago. What is there to even compare about it? They're both 3rd person? They're both running new graphics technology? I mean the material for a comparison between these two games pretty much begins and ends right there.

Bloodborne is a new IP that isn't really a "new" IP, let's be honest here, it's a slightly different take on a Souls game, it could be considered a standalone expansion in all reality; thus it already has an ingrained and existing player base ready to go from the onset.

You say that now about Bloodborne, but before it release you said would score in the 70s and be lucky to sell a million. Now it its at 92 and pushing towards 3 million lifetime sale in a little over a year. Don't try to revise history now.

As far as Quantum Break is concerned all I read leading up to the launch was possibly the next megahit franchise for Xbox(it needs one desperately), serious GOTY candidate with a high 80s to low 90s metascore. Microsoft even let reviews come out a week early because they were so confident in the product. I'll admit myself I had it pegged around 85. There was some real debate going on here about whether it would score higher than Uncharted 4.

You can't cushion how badly this game failed to meet expectations.

My reasoning behind that was fatigue, I figured people would be tired of the 'same' game again, that was proven incorrect and even more so with Dark Soul III, though people are beginning to highlight their fatigue now.

Who's to say it's not GOTY material? You live in this world where you seem to think that GameSpot is the only gaming media site on Earth, the game has 96 other published reviews, 23 of which are 90+.

Failed to meet whose expectations? You seem to think that singular views are global for some odd reason, it met mine, it met most others, it was different than I thought it would be for sure, but it was still a very solid game that I'm glad I got to play.

Gamespot score is irrelevant. The 77 metascore is VERY relevant. When is last time a game with a 77 metascore was up for some serious awards at the end of the year? It might manage get a GOTY award from one publication as even Dead Island managed that, but it mostly certainly will not be in the discussion as one of the top 4 or 5 games of the year.

BlackVine, bookmark this thread. Next NPD will be insteresting. Sunset Overdrive sold under 300k in November 2014 NPD and Ryse sold around 430k as of December 2013 NPD.

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@StrongBlackVine: Why are you so hell bent on shitting on everything Xbox? Do you go apeshit if you don't?

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@StrongBlackVine said:

Gamespot score is irrelevant. The 77 metascore is VERY relevant. When is last time a game with a 77 metascore was up for some serious awards at the end of the year? It might manage get a GOTY award from one publication as even Dead Island managed that, but it mostly certainly will not be in the discussion as one of the top 4 or 5 games of the year.

The GameSpot score is irrelevant yet you cling to it like a child clings to its mother, negative score for an Xbox game and it's vitriol ammunition against it, positive score for a PlayStation game and it's vitriol ammunition against the Xbox yet again... This is what you do, these are your actions, your words in this post in relation to the relevance of said score here mean **** all, because you don't exude any traits that follow that line of logic.

Are you familiar with dissenting opinions? That's the very definition of Quantum Break's reception, a minority in disagreement with the vast majority. You also seem to have a problem with asserting your future speculations as some kind of definitive fact, you really need to work on that because it makes you appear unintelligent which I'm sure you're not.

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@Salt_The_Fries: He Has issues. It's really sad that he is so brainwashed he actually believes the garbage he spews

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@dynamitecop said:
@StrongBlackVine said:

Gamespot score is irrelevant. The 77 metascore is VERY relevant. When is last time a game with a 77 metascore was up for some serious awards at the end of the year? It might manage get a GOTY award from one publication as even Dead Island managed that, but it mostly certainly will not be in the discussion as one of the top 4 or 5 games of the year.

The GameSpot score is irrelevant yet you cling to it like a child clings to its mother, negative score for an Xbox game and it's vitriol ammunition against it, positive score for a PlayStation game and it's vitriol ammunition against the Xbox yet again... This is what you do, these are your actions, your words in this post in relation to the relevance of said score here mean **** all, because you don't exude any traits that follow that line of logic.

Are you familiar with dissenting opinions? That's the very definition of Quantum Break's reception, a minority in disagreement with the vast majority. You also seem to have a problem with asserting your future speculations as some kind of definitive fact, you really need to work on that because it makes you appear unintelligent which I'm sure you're not.

What? I have been in favor of using Metacritic(an aggregate of all scores) long before System Wars finally did away with its stupid policy. Even when the Gamespot 6 first dropped my focus was always the metascore. You must have me confused with all the other people that were throwing the 6 in your face.