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#101 BioShockOwnz
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="aaronmullan"]

God of War = Dante's Inferno

Gears of War = Quantum

Truth.

Androvinus

Not really. Sure, it's the same genre, but the environments are all inspired by the 9 circles of hell. Nothing was takenor inspired by GoW. Same can be said for the enemies and things you'll come across. GoW wasn't the first violent action game, which some tend to think it was. And that's really the only thing they share in common.

yea but the quicktime sequences and finishers are all god of war. and god of war even had multiple levels in the underworld.

Shenmue had QTE's long before GoW.

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#102 ironcreed
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[QUOTE="ironcreed"]

One of the more blatant rip-offs I can recall seeing. You would think Tecmo could come up with something at least a little more original than this.....thing. Oh, and the dialogue makes me want to crawl underneath my desk and curl up into a fetal postion it is so bad. Just cheese layered upon cheese. "Another tower, another chance to end it all." Ughh....just scrap this one Tecmo and give us something a bit more innovative and fresh if you want to give us a new IP. Not this Quantum cheese Theory: Gears of Japan wanna be tripe.

II_Seraphim_II

Imo, Dante's Inferno is as much a rip-off of GoW as this game is of GeoW :P

How, because it is a third person action, hack n' slash adventure game? In all fairness, some of the gameplay mechanics of DI may be similar to GOW, but overall, the games look nothing alike and are vastly different in terms of plot. This game is blatantly copying the artstyle, character design AND gameplay from Gears. So, not hardly, my friend.

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#103 BioShockOwnz
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[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"][QUOTE="ironcreed"]

One of the more blatant rip-offs I can recall seeing. You would think Tecmo could come up with something at least a little more original than this.....thing. Oh, and the dialogue makes me want to crawl underneath my desk and curl up into a fetal postion it is so bad. Just cheese layered upon cheese. "Another tower, another chance to end it all." Ughh....just scrap this one Tecmo and give us something a bit more innovative and fresh if you want to give us a new IP. Not this Quantum cheese Theory: Gears of Japan wanna be tripe.

ironcreed

Imo, Dante's Inferno is as much a rip-off of GoW as this game is of GeoW :P

How, because it is a third person action, hack n' slash adventure game? In all fairness, some of the gameplay mechanics of DI may be similar to GOW, but overall, the games look nothing alike and are vastly different in terms of plot. This game is blatantly copying the artstyle, character design AND gameplay from Gears. So, not hardly, my friend.

Indeed. And unlike Quantum, Dante's Inferno won't suck.

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#104 ironcreed
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[QUOTE="ironcreed"]

[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"] Imo, Dante's Inferno is as much a rip-off of GoW as this game is of GeoW :PBioShockOwnz

How, because it is a third person action, hack n' slash adventure game? In all fairness, some of the gameplay mechanics of DI may be similar to GOW, but overall, the games look nothing alike and are vastly different in terms of plot. This game is blatantly copying the artstyle, character design AND gameplay from Gears. So, not hardly, my friend.

Indeed. And unlike Quantum, Dante's Inferno won't suck.

LMAO, that seals the deal on that matter.

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#105 DragonfireXZ95
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Tag team actually looks interesting. Could be more in depth than Gears lol. I loved Gears, was severly disappointed with Gears 2, and I really don't know what to think of this game yet... haha
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#106 Kashiwaba
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[QUOTE="ironcreed"]

[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"] Imo, Dante's Inferno is as much a rip-off of GoW as this game is of GeoW :PBioShockOwnz

How, because it is a third person action, hack n' slash adventure game? In all fairness, some of the gameplay mechanics of DI may be similar to GOW, but overall, the games look nothing alike and are vastly different in terms of plot. This game is blatantly copying the artstyle, character design AND gameplay from Gears. So, not hardly, my friend.

Indeed. And unlike Quantum, Dante's Inferno won't suck.

Did you play it to know that it wont suck?

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#107 II_Seraphim_II
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[QUOTE="ironcreed"]

[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"] Imo, Dante's Inferno is as much a rip-off of GoW as this game is of GeoW :PBioShockOwnz

How, because it is a third person action, hack n' slash adventure game? In all fairness, some of the gameplay mechanics of DI may be similar to GOW, but overall, the games look nothing alike and are vastly different in terms of plot. This game is blatantly copying the artstyle, character design AND gameplay from Gears. So, not hardly, my friend.

Indeed. And unlike Quantum, Dante's Inferno won't suck.

Ok guys, pass the dutchie on the left hand side! Seriously, I cant understand how you can blame Quantum Theory of being an GeoW rip off and then do a 180 and defend DI. Lets review. So Gears had useable female characters? How about swords and actual melee combat that seems to have some sort of substance? And how is the plot of Q and Gears the same? You guys are just being fanboys now. If you wanna call Q a rip off then you need to turn around and call DI a rip off. Hack and Slash? check. Over the top gore? check. Huge "epic" boss battles? Check. Hell? Check. Abundance of nudity? Check. Troubled character with a bag load of sins and war crimes on his conscience? Check. And some of the footage leaves me believing we are going to see some QTEs in this game. And there is no way you can possibly know whether either game will suck. Basically all you guys are doing is using double standards.
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#108 BioShockOwnz
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="ironcreed"]

How, because it is a third person action, hack n' slash adventure game? In all fairness, some of the gameplay mechanics of DI may be similar to GOW, but overall, the games look nothing alike and are vastly different in terms of plot. This game is blatantly copying the artstyle, character design AND gameplay from Gears. So, not hardly, my friend.

Kashiwaba

Indeed. And unlike Quantum, Dante's Inferno won't suck.

Did you play it to know that it wont suck?

I don't have to, but I will, as I play mostly everything. And yeah, it's still gonna be a bad, bad, bad clone. This game, unlike Dante's Inferno, is a blantant rip off with horrible anime cliche art and design throw in to show the eastern influence.

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#109 LyfOfAManti
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what i sawfrom trailer; blood animation looks like GeOW, character is definitely lighter and faster than GeOW, combination melee with main character and girl looks to bring different attacks, main guy looks like he's got a secret (eyes glows red), seems like they've been taking down towers for a while (towers all around the world probably).

No news yetfor GeOW 3, this could hold me off till then.

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#110 XturnalS
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Looks kinda fun, sure it may not be original for 09 but if its good who cares? Oh wait its all about the innovation these days amirite? I won't write this off because its presenting some cool mechanics with the team up attacks and cool melee attacks. I'll keep this on my radar and see how it pans out.
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#111 ironcreed
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Ok guys, pass the dutchie on the left hand side! Seriously, I cant understand how you can blame Quantum Theory of being an GeoW rip off and then do a 180 and defend DI. Lets review. So Gears had useable female characters? How about swords and actual melee combat that seems to have some sort of substance? And how is the plot of Q and Gears the same? You guys are just being fanboys now. If you wanna call Q a rip off then you need to turn around and call DI a rip off. Hack and Slash? check. Over the top gore? check. Huge "epic" boss battles? Check. Hell? Check. Abundance of nudity? Check. Troubled character with a bag load of sins and war crimes on his conscience? Check. And some of the footage leaves me believing we are going to see some QTEs in this game. And there is no way you can possibly know whether either game will suck. Basically all you guys are doing is using double standards.II_Seraphim_II

Let me get this straight, you think Dante's Inferno is a rip-off of GOW because it takes place in hell? Are you serious? The entire game takes place in the 9 circles of hell, as described by Dante Alighieri in the literary masterpiece, 'Inferno' from the 'Divine Comedy.' The rest of the game is of course loosely based on the Inferno, but has been made game transition friendly. How in the hell is that copying Kratos and GOW?

GOW merely has a HADES level and Kratos is not even an actual character within greek mythology. The 2 games are absolutely NOTHING alike, save for certain gameplay elements. GOW was not the first hack n' slash game with epic boss battles and Dante's Inferno sure as hell is not copying the artstyle and character design in GOW like Quantum Theory is from Gears either. So, if you think DI is ripping off the idea of hell from GOW, you are sorely mistaken, my friend....to say the least.

As far as Quantum Theory goes, I never said they copied the plot of Gears. I said the artstyle, characters and third person gameplay was blatantly ripped straight from Gears, which any one who has played or seen Gears can see. I will give it that it has a female character and some melee combat, but by and large it is indeed a complete Gears rip. In fact, I will be willing to bet that by the time this game gets reviewed, it will be ripped by the gaming media at large for just how much it has tried to copy Gears of War. Mark my words.

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#112 Kashiwaba
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Well seems the point of this topic is just to bash a PS3 exclusive so guess i will start ignoring it.

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#113 mitu123
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Well seems the point of this topic is just to bash a PS3 exclusive so guess i will start ignoring it.

Kashiwaba
Bashing PS3 exclusives is a good thing IMO, and yes, I'm joking, half joking to be honest.
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#114 BioShockOwnz
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Well seems the point of this topic is just to bash a PS3 exclusive so guess i will start ignoring it.

Kashiwaba

No, if this game were a multiplat, we'd all be laughing.

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#115 strudel420
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"Anything will die if you bust it's head open."

Some real gems of dialogue in that two and a half minutes.

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#116 Kashiwaba
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[QUOTE="Kashiwaba"]

Well seems the point of this topic is just to bash a PS3 exclusive so guess i will start ignoring it.

BioShockOwnz

No, if this game were a multiplat, we'd all be laughing.

Doubt it fanboys will start comparing it to Uncharted 2 then you see 5000 topics about Uncharted 2 Vs Quantum and Uncharted 2 killer thats how I see things will turn out if it was multiplat.

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#117 AgentA-Mi6
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[QUOTE="Kashiwaba"]

Well seems the point of this topic is just to bash a PS3 exclusive so guess i will start ignoring it.

mitu123
Bashing PS3 exclusives is a good thing IMO, and yes, I'm joking, half joking to be honest.

Why is bashing Ps3 exclusives a good thing to you?
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#118 ironcreed
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Well seems the point of this topic is just to bash a PS3 exclusive so guess i will start ignoring it.

Kashiwaba

No, I own a PS3 and love it to death. The game itself is just pure generic brand cheese....simple as that.

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#119 AgentA-Mi6
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Just finished watching the video, It looks more or less interesting, I thought It'd feature chainsaw guns like gears but it doesnt, Im not sold on it, the joint attack the girl and whoever that dude character is looked nice, character models looked decent, environments and overall textures have yet to be polished I noticed some Blur as well? I knew this game was going to be bashed to the sky and back.
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#120 millwrought
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In all fairness, if the game is fun and good then I don't care if it's a rip-off. A good rip-off is awesome.

I mean, Dead Space really had almostnothing special about it and really took a lot of things from other games, but combined them all to make one of the best games this generation.

Though the dialouge in that trailer was AWESOME!

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#121 TheGrat1
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[QUOTE="TheGrat1"]I'm going to try and be different (fair). It actually looks good. Can anyone actually come up with valid reasons as to why it would be bad? And don't say crappy dialog because you can still have that and attain AA status on GS (Gears 1&2). Shooting mechanics look like they work. Cover mechanics look like they work. Melee looks fun. Art is interesting. Gothic architecture with an organic twist. Multiplayer confirmed. 7.5 at least.heretrix

If you are going to rip something off you should at least try to improve on some level the thing that you are ripping off.

Shooting mechanics look like they work? Cover mechanics look like they work? Jeez that's day one purchase material right there.

It looks like a subpar rippoff of a game that ripped off a subpar game but did it well.

OK. Melee in Quantam looks way better than the melee in Gears. Happy now?
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#123 Puckhog04
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Have never seen a game as blatant a ripoff as that. It's kinda...odd...you feel like you're watching Gears of War exactly...but you aren't.

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#124 mitu123
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[QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"][QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="Kashiwaba"]

Well seems the point of this topic is just to bash a PS3 exclusive so guess i will start ignoring it.

Bashing PS3 exclusives is a good thing IMO, and yes, I'm joking, half joking to be honest.

Why is bashing Ps3 exclusives a good thing to you?

Because they deserve it, and many are overhyped and some don't deliver.
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#125 stepat201
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Well seems the point of this topic is just to bash a PS3 exclusive so guess i will start ignoring it.

Kashiwaba

I was laughing my ass off well before the playstation logo came up at the end.

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#126 Puckhog04
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[QUOTE="Kashiwaba"]

Well seems the point of this topic is just to bash a PS3 exclusive so guess i will start ignoring it.

stepat201

I was laughing my ass off well before the playstation logo came up at the end.

Seriously, how is it that people can't see what a blatant ripoff this game is? Has nothing to do with the Playstation name. Even the enemies look similar to locust. At least with games like Ninja Blade they tried to differentiate their product from the norm (which was Ninja Gaiden at the time) with Quick Time events and such. There's almost nothing that doesn't look "Gears of War" in Quantum.

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#127 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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OK. Melee in Quantam looks way better than the melee in Gears. Happy now?TheGrat1
Does it? Besides, how relevant can that be, even if it were?
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#128 Malta_1980
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PS3 fans shouldnt be so defensive... all i see in here is people criticising Tecmo for creating a game which is similar in many ways to the Geow series.. i dont understand why honestly, its not like Tecmo are the first to take ideasfromother games...

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#129 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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all i see in here is people criticising Tecmo for creating a game which is similar in many ways to the Geow series..Malta_1980
Nope. People criticising Tecmo for creating a game which is similar in many ways to the Geow series that looks bad .
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#130 BioShockOwnz
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PS3 fans shouldnt be so defensive... all i see in here is people criticising Tecmo for creating a game which is similar in many ways to the Geow series.. i dont understand why honestly, its not like Tecmo are the first to take ideasfromother games...

Malta_1980

It's a bad idea on Tecmo's part, tbh. Now they have to compete with a crowd pleaser. And if anyone thinks this won't get reviewed as anything more than a Gears clone, then they're in for a rude awakening. Reviewers will not be easy on this one.

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#131 Malta_1980
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[QUOTE="Malta_1980"] all i see in here is people criticising Tecmo for creating a game which is similar in many ways to the Geow series..IronBass
Nope. People criticising Tecmo for creating a game which is similar in many ways to the Geow series that looks bad .

ok but i'd still wait to see more about this game before stating its crap... they still have plenty of time to polish its visuals..

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#132 BioShockOwnz
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[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="Malta_1980"] all i see in here is people criticising Tecmo for creating a game which is similar in many ways to the Geow series..Malta_1980

Nope. People criticising Tecmo for creating a game which is similar in many ways to the Geow series that looks bad .

ok but i'd still wait to see more about this game before stating its crap... they still have plenty of time to polish its visuals..

I don't think that's the part that concerns any of us. The game looks fine, graphically.

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Because they deserve it, and many are overhyped and some don't deliver.mitu123
Are you aware that you can apply the same to Every other system based on that? Not only Ps3 Exclusives?
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#134 mitu123
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[QUOTE="mitu123"] Because they deserve it, and many are overhyped and some don't deliver.AgentA-Mi6
Are you aware that you can apply the same to Every other system based on that? Not only Ps3 Exclusives?

Yes, it's just that the PS3 has the most so far this gen.

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#135 Raining__Blood
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The graphics can't even beat the first gears and is a 2009 game.
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#136 AgentA-Mi6
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[QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"][QUOTE="mitu123"] Because they deserve it, and many are overhyped and some don't deliver.mitu123

Are you aware that you can apply the same to Every other system based on that? Not only Ps3 Exclusives?

Yes, it's just that the PS3 has the most so far this gen.

How can the Ps3 have the most if it has a smaller Library than other platforms? You aren't really backing up any of your claims here
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[QUOTE="TheGrat1"] OK. Melee in Quantam looks way better than the melee in Gears. Happy now?IronBass
Does it? Besides, how relevant can that be, even if it were?

Did you seriously just ask how methods ofattacking an enemy could be relevant? :|

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#138 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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Did you seriously just ask how methods ofattacking an enemy could be relevant? :|TheGrat1
I asked how relevant improved melee attacks would be if the shooting and cover mechanics do no look good.
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#139 Androvinus
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[QUOTE="TheGrat1"]Did you seriously just ask how methods ofattacking an enemy could be relevant? :|IronBass
I asked how relevant improved melee attacks would be if the shooting and cover mechanics do no look good.

i truly have seen nothing wrong with the gameplay. sure it looks a lot like gears, and sure it has cheesy dialogue(what do u expect, its japanese). but the gunplay looks good, the art direction looks nice, the graphics will be greatly improved, and that female character looks freaking awesome. she totally beats sheva alomar for best supporting actress.
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#140 TheGrat1
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[QUOTE="TheGrat1"]Did you seriously just ask how methods ofattacking an enemy could be relevant? :|IronBass
I asked how relevant improved melee attacks would be if the shooting and cover mechanics do no look good.

But they do look good. There was blindfire, mantling, pop out and shoot mechanics, even what looks like a roadie run. And they all looked functional. If this games shooting mechanis look bad, then so do gears'. I've played both Gears games and this is identical people. You all act like gears' core gameplay is complex or something, its rediculously simple.
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#141 mitu123
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"] Are you aware that you can apply the same to Every other system based on that? Not only Ps3 Exclusives?AgentA-Mi6

Yes, it's just that the PS3 has the most so far this gen.

How can the Ps3 have the most if it has a smaller Library than other platforms? You aren't really backing up any of your claims here

Well, um, my logic is flawed isn't it?
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#142 BioShockOwnz
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Honestly, I can't believe anyone is defending this game. A clone is bad enough. A clone that looks this bad is even worse. I usually play wait and see, but this one just rubbed me the wrong way.

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#143 aaronmullan
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Honestly, I can't believe anyone is defending this game. A clone is bad enough. A clone that looks this bad is even worse. I usually play wait and see, but this one just rubbed me the wrong way.

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A clone is bad enough? So Dante's Infernos gameplay is bad enough? It's completely ripped of God of War. This game completely ripped Gears. Their isn't anything else to say about it. This clone looks worse than DI, though. They're both still clones.
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#144 BioShockOwnz
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

Honestly, I can't believe anyone is defending this game. A clone is bad enough. A clone that looks this bad is even worse. I usually play wait and see, but this one just rubbed me the wrong way.

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A clone is bad enough? So Dante's Infernos gameplay is bad enough? It's completely ripped of God of War. This game completely ripped Gears. Their isn't anything else to say about it. This clone looks worse than DI, though. They're both still clones.

Once again, God of War was not the first of violent action/adventure. kill.switch was before Gears, but the design and aesthetics of Quantum has certainly ripped off Gears.

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#145 stepat201
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I hope cows defend the game it'll just be more funny when it comes out.

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Lol, that is so funny.
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#147 aaronmullan
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[QUOTE="aaronmullan"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

Honestly, I can't believe anyone is defending this game. A clone is bad enough. A clone that looks this bad is even worse. I usually play wait and see, but this one just rubbed me the wrong way.

BioShockOwnz

A clone is bad enough? So Dante's Infernos gameplay is bad enough? It's completely ripped of God of War. This game completely ripped Gears. Their isn't anything else to say about it. This clone looks worse than DI, though. They're both still clones.

Once again, God of War was not the first of violent action/adventure. kill.switch was before Gears, but the design and aesthetics of Quantum has certainly ripped off Gears.

and? It is still ripping off GOW like Quantum is ripping Gears. I'm not saying Quantum will be any good, I'm just sayin' it is just like Dante's Inferno, a clone which heavily borrows from another game.
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#148 Kashiwaba
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I hope cows defend the game it'll just be more funny when it comes out.

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Just hope its not another Demon's souls or you will be a laughing stock.
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#149 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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and? It is still ripping off GOW like Quantum is ripping Gears. I'm not saying Quantum will be any good, I'm just sayin' it is just like Dante's Inferno, a clone which heavily borrows from another game. aaronmullan
Indeed. It does not make any sense to complain about Quantum Theory being "a clone" of GeoW. In the end, anyways, the thing that matters is the overall quality of the game. Innovation is secondary.
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#150 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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[QUOTE="Kashiwaba"][QUOTE="stepat201"]

I hope cows defend the game it'll just be more funny when it comes out.

Just hope its not another Demon's souls or you will be a laughing stock.

What about Demon's Souls?