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#1 roadkill88
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Microsoft's Xbox 360 has been on the market for two full years now and has created the a gaming experience for millions that has been memorable, unique, and damn fun. There is no question that the 360 is a powerful machine and can create some terrific games. However, with the launch of Halo 3, Microsoft's own brainchild from Bungie, and the last of a great series, comes a time of sorrow. Although most gamers won't notice this effect for about another year, it is happening. Let me explain. The shear fact that Halo 3 was arguably the most anticipated sequel of all time, including all gaming platforms gives Microsoft a very high standard to live up to. Now that it has been released, a new question has been raised. Is the 360 past its prime and now working on the back nine? Halo 3 has suffered some serious ridicule from a short campaign mode, to the disk actually corrupting the hard drive. Now, I'm not saying that the game is killing consoles, as this topic comes up with every major release and the forums tend to pack with "_____ bricked my 360", but I am saying this, Halo 3's graphics were not up to par for what they should have been, the games packaging showed signs of being rushed as thousands of gamers reported scratched disks right out of the box, and the fact that hundreds of reports keep flying in that the game locks up. So, with these things in mind, let's focus on one, graphics. If Microsoft themselves can not surpass the technology of games like Bioshock or Heavenly Sword on their own console, with a completely in house development, that has been in the works for well over 3 years, how can one expect to see an increase in quality in games to come? The theory here, is that the Xbox has prematurely reached its potential. Instead of continuing to improve on games graphics and play over the course of the consoles life, they have hit a barrier on the limitations of the system. Graphically, Bioshock is as good as it gets at this point and the truth is, there are a lot of games that look very similar to it, graphically speaking, and they have been releasing them avidly over the last 6 months as the console war amplifies between the 360 and the Playstation 3.

Here is my thoughts, Microsoft, in an effort to stay on top of this console generation has pulled out all the stops, and has released many, if not most of their AAA titles at once, leaving them no where to go. This has worked to a point, as it has left a big gap between the two giants game wise. Microsoft has paid out millions of dollars to big name developers to gain exclusive first release rights as well as extra content, in other words, they have paid off the big guns to fight on their side. Sony, unwilling to do the same, will now see these titles 6 months to a year later in most cases and will suffer because of it. Now that all of this has happened, the real dilemma here is....why? If Microsoft's machine can still muster up some great titles that will surpass those we have seen in the last few months, then why would they try so hard to make a title release on their system early and lose even more profit than they already have with the RROD problem? The answer is simple. The gates are closing on the machine and developers have reached its true potential. That is not to say that it will just roll over and die, I'm sure that some more really terrific games will come out and the console will run as much of its life span as possible, but they will not surpass what they have accomplished in the last 6 months. I know this will come across as if Game Revolver is Sony oriented, and I want to ensure you that this is not the case, but Sony truly has taken a safe approach to gaming this time around. Every developer interview that has mentioned the PS3 at all has stated that they have come no where close to its full potential. It is harder to develop for as they have become adapted to the 360 as the base of their work, and port from there, but now, developers are beginning to look at the PS3 as their foreground, with the 360 as the port. Bottom line, the 360 is not on its last leg, but it has matured in terms of gaming power and prowess. Let us all be thankful to the many marvels it has given us in the gaming world and hope that they can still make some awesome titles. Here's to you Microsoft, may you figure out what the hell is going on before the gaming world does it for you.

http://www.gamerevolver.com/articlenav-52-page-1.html

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#3 lucas_kelly
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I can tell you now, no one is going to read that.
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#4 dgsag
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All valid concerns. However, I feel most fanboys will not read this to laziness and it being a "block-of-text" :roll:
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#5 Paktahn
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Xbox 360 is on it's last legs because it currently has the best games :| Why could it not go from strength to strength like previous consoles that had the best games? Anyway we shall see.
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#6 therealmcc0y
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360 has peeked

PS3 has potential for much greater things.

Reason for PS3 winning console in long term?

I think so

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#7 ball_of_air
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Longest. Post. Ever.
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#8 roadkill88
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Heh - this is a new one. Pretending they're not going to read the article because of length, rather than painful truth,
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#9 KrazyKenKutarag
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Heh - this is a new one. Pretending they're not going to read the article because of length, rather than painful truth,roadkill88

I don't think people are pretending, that's one damn long article.

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#10 ball_of_air
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Heh - this is a new one. Pretending they're not going to read the article because of length, rather than painful truth,roadkill88

No. I'm pretty sure it's because of the length.:|

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Halo 3's graphics were not up to par for what they should have been, the games packaging showed signs of being rushed as thousands of gamers reported scratched disks right out of the box, and the fact that hundreds of reports keep flying in that the game locks up. So, with these things in mind, let's focus on one, graphics. If Microsoft themselves can not surpass the technology of games like Bioshock or Heavenly Sword on their own console, with a completely in house development, that has been in the works for well over 3 years, how can one expect to see an increase in quality in games to come? roadkill88

How on earth can you compare Bioshock to Halo 3? One is mostly small indoor environment with only a few enemies on screen at once. The other has huge outdoor environments with the biggest battles I have seen in a single-player FPS. It's like comparing the graphics in GTA to a racing game with small linear levels. Did the PS2 reach it's peak because GTA 3 wasn't as good looking as GT3?

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#12 darklight86
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Heh - this is a new one. Pretending they're not going to read the article because of length, rather than painful truth,roadkill88

Painful truth? So, just because you wrote this giant skyscraper, that means its all true? The 360 has many great games that aren't Halo3. It also has many great games yet to be released - just because its riding high right now does not necessarily mean that it has peaked.

P.S you also spelled sheer 'shear'. Just saying.

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#13 roadkill88
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[QUOTE="roadkill88"]Heh - this is a new one. Pretending they're not going to read the article because of length, rather than painful truth,ball_of_air

No. I'm pretty sure it's because of the length.:|

Well maybe you should return to the creche if they big wong words are sore on you wittle eyes.

Yeah, whatever.

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[QUOTE="roadkill88"]

Halo 3's graphics were not up to par for what they should have been, the games packaging showed signs of being rushed as thousands of gamers reported scratched disks right out of the box, and the fact that hundreds of reports keep flying in that the game locks up. So, with these things in mind, let's focus on one, graphics. If Microsoft themselves can not surpass the technology of games like Bioshock or Heavenly Sword on their own console, with a completely in house development, that has been in the works for well over 3 years, how can one expect to see an increase in quality in games to come? Paktahn

How on earth can you compare Bioshock to Halo 3? One is mostly small indoor environment with only a few enemies on screen at once. The other has huge outdoor environments with the biggest battles I have seen in a single-player FPS. It's like comparing the graphics in GTA to a racing game with small linear levels.

Um, this is just that guys opinion, he's just talking out of his ass. He also gave Heavenly Sword a 9.7 with a 9.0 in replay value, yeah right.
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#15 roadkill88
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[QUOTE="roadkill88"]Heh - this is a new one. Pretending they're not going to read the article because of length, rather than painful truth,darklight86

Painful truth? So, just because you wrote this giant skyscraper, that means its all true? The 360 has many great games that aren't Halo3. It also has many great games yet to be released - just because its riding high right now does not necessarily mean that it has peaked.

P.S you also spelled sheer 'shear'. Just saying.

Sheer and Shear? lol neither word appeared in my post. Next time, make sure the word is actually IN the post before making it up. lol.

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#16 BreakingPoint8
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[QUOTE="darklight86"]

[QUOTE="roadkill88"]Heh - this is a new one. Pretending they're not going to read the article because of length, rather than painful truth,roadkill88

Painful truth? So, just because you wrote this giant skyscraper, that means its all true? The 360 has many great games that aren't Halo3. It also has many great games yet to be released - just because its riding high right now does not necessarily mean that it has peaked.

P.S you also spelled sheer 'shear'. Just saying.

Sheer and Shear? lol neither word appeared in my post. Next time, make sure the word is actually IN the post before making it up. lol.

He's talking about the guy you got all your information from, smart guy
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#17 KrazyKenKutarag
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[QUOTE="darklight86"]

[QUOTE="roadkill88"]Heh - this is a new one. Pretending they're not going to read the article because of length, rather than painful truth,roadkill88

Painful truth? So, just because you wrote this giant skyscraper, that means its all true? The 360 has many great games that aren't Halo3. It also has many great games yet to be released - just because its riding high right now does not necessarily mean that it has peaked.

P.S you also spelled sheer 'shear'. Just saying.

Sheer and Shear? lol neither word appeared in my post. Next time, make sure the word is actually IN the post before making it up. lol.

Um, yeah the guy did. 1st post.

'The shear fact that Halo 3 was arguably the most anticipated sequel of all time'

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[QUOTE="roadkill88"][QUOTE="darklight86"]

[QUOTE="roadkill88"]Heh - this is a new one. Pretending they're not going to read the article because of length, rather than painful truth,BreakingPoint8

Painful truth? So, just because you wrote this giant skyscraper, that means its all true? The 360 has many great games that aren't Halo3. It also has many great games yet to be released - just because its riding high right now does not necessarily mean that it has peaked.

P.S you also spelled sheer 'shear'. Just saying.

Sheer and Shear? lol neither word appeared in my post. Next time, make sure the word is actually IN the post before making it up. lol.

He's talking about the guy you got all your information from, smart guy

Except for the fact he quoted my name, and said "you", but whatever.

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#19 roadkill88
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[QUOTE="roadkill88"][QUOTE="darklight86"]

[QUOTE="roadkill88"]Heh - this is a new one. Pretending they're not going to read the article because of length, rather than painful truth,KrazyKenKutarag

Painful truth? So, just because you wrote this giant skyscraper, that means its all true? The 360 has many great games that aren't Halo3. It also has many great games yet to be released - just because its riding high right now does not necessarily mean that it has peaked.

P.S you also spelled sheer 'shear'. Just saying.

Sheer and Shear? lol neither word appeared in my post. Next time, make sure the word is actually IN the post before making it up. lol.

Um, yeah you did.

'The shear fact that Halo 3 was arguably the most anticipated sequel of all time'

Except for the fact that "I" didn't write the article. You fail @ attempted ownage :(

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#20 KrazyKenKutarag
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[QUOTE="KrazyKenKutarag"][QUOTE="roadkill88"][QUOTE="darklight86"]

[QUOTE="roadkill88"]Heh - this is a new one. Pretending they're not going to read the article because of length, rather than painful truth,roadkill88

Painful truth? So, just because you wrote this giant skyscraper, that means its all true? The 360 has many great games that aren't Halo3. It also has many great games yet to be released - just because its riding high right now does not necessarily mean that it has peaked.

P.S you also spelled sheer 'shear'. Just saying.

Sheer and Shear? lol neither word appeared in my post. Next time, make sure the word is actually IN the post before making it up. lol.

Um, yeah you did.

'The shear fact that Halo 3 was arguably the most anticipated sequel of all time'

Except for the fact that "I" didn't write the article. You fail @ attempted ownage :(

I just found out the that was taken from an article, usually people just post a link. How was I trying the own you? Really, I wanna know.

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#21 monco59
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I'll wait for the movie, thank you very much!
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#22 BreakingPoint8
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[QUOTE="KrazyKenKutarag"][QUOTE="roadkill88"][QUOTE="darklight86"]

[QUOTE="roadkill88"]Heh - this is a new one. Pretending they're not going to read the article because of length, rather than painful truth,roadkill88

Painful truth? So, just because you wrote this giant skyscraper, that means its all true? The 360 has many great games that aren't Halo3. It also has many great games yet to be released - just because its riding high right now does not necessarily mean that it has peaked.

P.S you also spelled sheer 'shear'. Just saying.

Sheer and Shear? lol neither word appeared in my post. Next time, make sure the word is actually IN the post before making it up. lol.

Um, yeah you did.

'The shear fact that Halo 3 was arguably the most anticipated sequel of all time'

Except for the fact that "I" didn't write the article. You fail @ attempted ownage :(

You're right YOU didn't, but the guy who did might as well have been posting it in a blog. The guy doesn't even use spell check when he posts. You really showed all the Xbox 360 owners though. Good Job. Like I or anyone else gives a flying **** about what some dude in Idaho has to say about the 360 on his lame website. Heavenly Sword a 9.7? GTFO.
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#23 roadkill88
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[QUOTE="roadkill88"][QUOTE="KrazyKenKutarag"][QUOTE="roadkill88"][QUOTE="darklight86"]

[QUOTE="roadkill88"]Heh - this is a new one. Pretending they're not going to read the article because of length, rather than painful truth,BreakingPoint8

Painful truth? So, just because you wrote this giant skyscraper, that means its all true? The 360 has many great games that aren't Halo3. It also has many great games yet to be released - just because its riding high right now does not necessarily mean that it has peaked.

P.S you also spelled sheer 'shear'. Just saying.

Sheer and Shear? lol neither word appeared in my post. Next time, make sure the word is actually IN the post before making it up. lol.

Um, yeah you did.

'The shear fact that Halo 3 was arguably the most anticipated sequel of all time'

Except for the fact that "I" didn't write the article. You fail @ attempted ownage :(

You're right YOU didn't, but the guy who did might as well have been posting it in a blog. The guy doesn't even use spell check when he posts. You really showed all the Xbox 360 owners though. Good Job

lol. Denial, denial. Is there anything weaker than attacking a 'truth hurts' article for its spelling? Here's a bit of irony, the fanboys complain about the length of the article, as if they were allergic to mature grammar, yet they come over all grammar police when theres a simple typo. Hahaha.

Heres an idea - actually refute what the man is saying.

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#24 Khansoul
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The painful truth is the PS3 has failed and no amount of Cow denial will change this.
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#25 Paktahn
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Cows are almost getting as bad as those people who keep saying the world is going to end at a certain date. They just keep moving the date back when it doesn't happen as planned. 2008 is the year it will happen for sure!
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#26 steve17989
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I've read the article, there is no solid facts in there, it's just theorys and opinions. definatley not ownage material.
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#27 roadkill88
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Still waiting for someone to actually return on what the man is saying. So far we've got;

- Article too long.

- Attacking a single typo

- Failed humour attempt about the World ending.

- Something about the PS3, despite the fact its an article about the 360.

... Nope, no reference to what he said there.

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#28 Rudi-Johnson
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The painful truth is the PS3 has failed and no amount of Cow denial will change this.Khansoul

lol..

Being a fanboy sucks doesnt it.....

Bottom line is, the article has some truth in it...If Halo already has to be dropped down to 680p just to fit on the disk, whats gonna happen in a few years?? Games should be advancing and start getting better graphics, physics, gameplay and all of that....but if games now already took up all the room on the disk, once again...whats gonna happen in a few years? Therefore the guy is kind of right....it pretty much peaked....but hopefully hes wrong..

Microsoft is gonna have to come up with another solution....hopefully they start using the HD drive for games.....ill pay the money, I dont wanna play games that are exactly the same as right now the next 3 years....while ps3 has games that are actually advancing...

Luckily for me I have all 3 systems....so all you 360 fanboys (75% of this board) are the ones that should be worried...but I do understand that you are fanboys so youll make up some excuse..

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#29 JocktheMotie
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Anybody who thinks Halo is not a graphical achievement is a fool. Amazing design, fantastic lighting, an awesome number of effects, I really think it is a better technical achievement than Gears. The amount of effects going on at once, and when you take in to account that the game records EVERYTHING to the hard drive, to the point where you can detach the camera and watch battles taking place in realtime, within the engine, hundreds of yards away from you is just stunning.

No, it doesn't push the most polygons, no it doesn't native at 1100p or whatever junk, it doesn't have the fanciest graphics, but it is still a beautiful game, and Bungie got the Halo series to where they were by NOT just appealing to the graphics whores, but by making the Halo experience as transcendant as possible. Halo wasn't even the best graphical experience on Xbox, so I don't know why it should automatically have to be the case for this version. The writer of this article is a graphics whore, not caring for the playability of the game, and demanding that every ounce of processor and GPU power be used to create some sort of graphical effect. The reason people will still be playing Halo 3 in 5 years will not be because of its graphics, but because Bungie has created an experience and a game that has the tools to keep you entertained for that long.

This reviewer/writer/journalist/tool is not worth paying attention to.

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#30 tmatte
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[QUOTE="ball_of_air"]

[QUOTE="roadkill88"]Heh - this is a new one. Pretending they're not going to read the article because of length, rather than painful truth,roadkill88

No. I'm pretty sure it's because of the length.:|

Well maybe you should return to the creche if they big wong words are sore on you wittle eyes.

Yeah, whatever.

This is system wars. Noone is going to read it. Including me.

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#31 ragek1ll589
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heres an idea, how bout we don't complain about how long the TC's post is and we actually read what he's saying. Its becoming very much of an annoyance when I look to respond to another posts comment on a topic and all i see is "GAHHH Wall of teh t3xt!!!"

So, if your not going to bother and read what the TC's say's, don't post at all
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#32 Khansoul
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[QUOTE="Khansoul"]The painful truth is the PS3 has failed and no amount of Cow denial will change this.Rudi-Johnson

lol..

Being a fanboy sucks doesnt it.....

Bottom line is, the article has some truth in it...If Halo already has to be dropped down to 680p just to fit on the disk, whats gonna happen in a few years?? Games should be advancing and start getting better graphics, physics, gameplay and all of that....but if games now already took up all the room on the disk, once again...whats gonna happen in a few years? Therefore the guy is kind of right....it pretty much peaked....but hopefully hes wrong..

Microsoft is gonna have to come up with another solution....hopefully they start using the HD drive for games.....ill pay the money, I dont wanna play games that are exactly the same as right now the next 3 years....while ps3 has games that are actually advancing...

Luckily for me I have all 3 systems....so all you 360 fanboys (75% of this board) are the ones that should be worried...but I do understand that you are fanboys so youll make up some excuse..

I think confusing opinion with facts sucks even more.

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#33 RevenMan
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Cows are almost getting as bad as those people who keep saying the world is going to end at a certain date. They just keep moving the date back when it doesn't happen as planned. 2008 is the year it will happen for sure!Paktahn

I agree with you they always say just wait while pc/360 gamers are playing the best games out atm. What i understand from your post is that all the best games that the 360 has to offer are alredy out? Do you have a time machine or did microsoft and the other developers for 360 games just tell you that they won't be developing any more games for the 360?

The 360 is the best choice for a console gamer right now like it or not it has the best games and most games also it has the best online play which consoles can offer atm. Sony isn't even trying but oh i guess you can wait until 2008-2009 when the ps3 becomes a good console then i just might buy it becouse atm the ps3 isn't worth the money unless you have a hdtv and you need a Blu-ray player.

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#34 leejohnson7
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[QUOTE="roadkill88"]Heh - this is a new one. Pretending they're not going to read the article because of length, rather than painful truth,KrazyKenKutarag

I don't think people are pretending, that's one damn long article.

Then they shouldn't post, because its just spam.

Anyway, I think you are right man. I'd also like to add that I reckon they will most likely drop support in about 2009.

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#35 l-_-l
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I can tell you now, no one is going to read that.lucas_kelly
I can tell you now, you are wrong. I just read the whole thing. I think the TC is off his rocker for taking this article as fact instead of what it is....opinion, but I read the whole thing. I haven't read anywhere about any developer saying the 360 has been maxed out, so I refuse to take some persons opinion as fact. So far all that has been proven is that a person has posted this article on a website. Just cause this guys has a opinion, doesn't make it true.
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#36 FancyKetchup25
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so now, having good games means your gonna start sucking? and having no games means your gonna start doing great?
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#37 BreakingPoint8
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so now, having good games means your gonna start sucking? and having no games means your gonna start doing great?FancyKetchup25
That sounds so perfect it's retarded.
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#38 Khansoul
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so now, having good games means your gonna start sucking? and having no games means your gonna start doing great?FancyKetchup25

:lol: nice

oh and

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#39 qbell
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im not worried about the 360. this is all because M$ decided to just show all this years games @ E3. Just to give the competition a kick in the nuts for a x-mas present with there "games of the future" crap. The future is now dont PLAY B3HIND!!!!!!!!!
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#40 ragek1ll589
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You make a valid point, but I don't think the 360 has reached its potential. There is still alot more to come for the system.

And honestly, do you think Bungie is going to stop making a franchise which earned them 170 million dollars in 1 day

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#41 l-_-l
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Longest. Post. Ever.ball_of_air
:lol::lol: Not even close.
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#42 animateria
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None of that shows the end for the 360... Rushing creates hiccups and I'm sure Halo 3 showed that rushing is never a good thing with its fair share of problems... However that doesn't change the fact that it sold extremely well and will sell well in the future, helping X-box 360 hardware sales in the process.

Looking at the potential games coming out, I would say PS3 is definitely catching up (I'm actually still debating which console to buy). But I don't see a slow down in quality games on the 360 either.

Halo 3 biggest selling reason is not limited to the single player experience, its probably more anticipated for its long lasting multiplayer component. Which I'm sure people with enjoy for quite a long time. (And a reason why a Halo 3 isn't a killer app for me.. I prefer single player games.) There is no reason the current problems they have can't be fixed either.

Anticipating a doom of a rival console... surely would blind ones sights...

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#43 Kardinal47
Member since 2007 • 144 Posts

I can tell you now, no one is going to read that.lucas_kelly

I read it.

And yeah I do think the 360 has matured and that we won't see games looking much better, but people also said that about the PS2 and look at games like God of War and GOWII.

Even if 360 has run into a brick wall, im glad im not a fanboy cause then i'll just go build a PC. I'm not gonna miss out on great games because of brand loyalty.

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#44 Paktahn
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so now, having good games means your gonna start sucking? and having no games means your gonna start doing great?FancyKetchup25

Yes. Having the best games and graphics is actually a bad thing. Consoles with momentum are more likely to stall then those without momentum. These are well known all well known fact that ignorant lemmings need to be made aware of :)

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#45 PelekotansDream
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I can tell you now, no one is going to read that.lucas_kelly
I tried so hard but gave up halfway.

Back to the topic, Halo 3 = Amazing game. And I really do mean amazing, I aint played it but it is obvious that it is amazing. As for the topic title, well Cliffy B has said that they are pushing the limits on what they can do with the 360 during the making of GEARs. No link for that, it is either on a GEARs market place video or on the bonus disc that came in the special edition.

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#46 BatmanBegins24
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I just read the first part of your post and I'm going to respond to that first.You were mostly taking about the graphics.The Halo series never had the best graphics on a Xbox.Although it was close.I feel the same way about Halo 3.It might not be the best (Gears of War is) but it's darn close.The lighting is amazing and Bungie said that the Draw distance in the game is around 14 miles.Some of the farthest if not the farthest in a video game.You really need to play the game to see how good it looks.Releasing a game in 3 years is not rushing it.Three years is a long time and standard for a game of this caliber.Most high profile games like GTA,Metal Gear Solid,Final Fantasy,Gears of War,ect take about 3 years of make.And you can't keep a game in development until it's perfect.Unless you want another Duke Nukem Forever.

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#47 steve17989
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[QUOTE="FancyKetchup25"]so now, having good games means your gonna start sucking? and having no games means your gonna start doing great?Paktahn

Yes. Having the best games and graphics is actually a bad thing. Consoles with momentum are more likely to stall then those without momentum. These are well known all well known fact that ignorant lemmings need to be made aware of :)

It doesn't mean that it will be stalled, though. There are more pros than cons for the 360 in the position that it's in now.

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#48 CossackNoodle
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sad but true. I saw this coming the 360 has reached its potential and if u love graphics you gonna have to look elsewhere when it comes to consoles
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#49 EntwineX
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I already forgot most of what that article said. But MS isn't the type of company that would roll over and play dead. If they're determined to take over the console market they WILL, even if that would mean giving out Xbox 720s for free in '09 to replace the obsolete and broken 360s. They are ready to burn the money if needed. They're just too big to be beaten in the long run.
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#50 Kardinal47
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sad but true. I saw this coming the 360 has reached its potential and if u love graphics you gonna have to look elsewhere when it comes to consolesCossackNoodle

If you love graphics get a PC, not a console. Thats like saying "if you like blood and gore, get a Wii"

But anyway..aslong as I keep getting great games I don't really care if the graphics have reached its best. Give me games that I can log alot of hours into and im all good. I played Socom II for about 2 and half years before I put it down, I think I can live with graphics not being as mindblowing as other games on PC and PS3.