"Capcom- despite 'strong sales' no PC release for SSFIV due to piracy"

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#101 PSdual_wielder
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in before crysis...........

kobraka1

Crysis is a perfect example of preventing piracy because it requires paying so much money first on the hardware before even getting the game. Since pirates are cheap people anyways why would they get that. ;)

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#102 RyuRanVII
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To be honest,capcom probably understood that they will not be able to scam PC gamers with a mere update of SF4(SSF4) since PC gamers can get that content for free with mods for SF4.Arach666
That's exactly what I think. Marvel vs. Capcom 3 will probably be released for PC like any other Capcom game that isn't a $60 update.

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#103 Raymundo_Manuel
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Oh piracy, is it?

Guess it has nothing to do with most PC gamers not liking fighters. Or that fighters in general play better on consoles...

coreybg

It has nothing to do with PC gamers not liking fighters since that's false, but more to do with the fanbase for fighers is larger on the consoles. It'd be like saying PS3 gamers hate shooters even though they buy millions of them, but of course they all do much better on the 360.

And fighters playing better on consoles doesn't make sense when a PC can use a 360 controller, PS3 controller, or most any arcade stick

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#104 Raymundo_Manuel
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[QUOTE="kobraka1"]

in before crysis...........

PSdual_wielder

Crysis is a perfect example of preventing piracy because it requires paying so much money first on the hardware before even getting the game. Since pirates are cheap people anyways why would they get that. ;)

I doubt it.


Crysis is a great benchmark to see how pro your PC is. It definitely had strong sales, but I'm willing to bet it's high piracy rate had a lot to do with people pirating it to test out their new rigs no matter if they have a budget, or high end rig.

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#105 nameless12345
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Well, they do have a point here. Piracy is on all systems now, but on the PC it's the most rampant. Still, if the sales were good, I think they could still bring it over.

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#106 HuusAsking
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[QUOTE="coreybg"]

Oh piracy, is it?

Guess it has nothing to do with most PC gamers not liking fighters. Or that fighters in general play better on consoles...

Raymundo_Manuel

It has nothing to do with PC gamers not liking fighters since that's false, but more to do with the fanbase for fighers is larger on the consoles. It'd be like saying PS3 gamers hate shooters even though they buy millions of them, but of course they all do much better on the 360.

And fighters playing better on consoles doesn't make sense when a PC can use a 360 controller, PS3 controller, or most any arcade stick

But usually only the 360 pad autoconfigures, and not always then. Because what's button 1 on one controller (say, the left face button or Square) is button 5 on another (button 1 there is the left shoulder bumper or L1). It's one unwholesome quirk of using gamepads on the PC, unfortunately.
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#107 Captain__Tripps
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[QUOTE="Raymundo_Manuel"]

[QUOTE="coreybg"]

Oh piracy, is it?

Guess it has nothing to do with most PC gamers not liking fighters. Or that fighters in general play better on consoles...

HuusAsking

It has nothing to do with PC gamers not liking fighters since that's false, but more to do with the fanbase for fighers is larger on the consoles. It'd be like saying PS3 gamers hate shooters even though they buy millions of them, but of course they all do much better on the 360.

And fighters playing better on consoles doesn't make sense when a PC can use a 360 controller, PS3 controller, or most any arcade stick

But usually only the 360 pad autoconfigures, and not always then. Because what's button 1 on one controller (say, the left face button or Square) is button 5 on another (button 1 there is the left shoulder bumper or L1). It's one unwholesome quirk of using gamepads on the PC, unfortunately.

Well no you dont get every pad to auto configure on a PC... What happens if you use a PS3 controller on a 360? Oh right it doesn''t work lol. Pretty much every new game that supports controllers works fine with a 360 controller, if you want to use something else it takes some work, or might not work properly.
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#108 LovePotionNo9
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Just so you know Capcom, you just lost a sale! Nah, maybe I'll get it on PS3 or 3DS some day. But I am disappointed in joo Capcom. PC gamers like the street figherz too

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#109 locopatho
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*traditional round of crysis pics* :P.

seriously stardock made a very interesting point about their view on piracy. they just dont consider pirates as possible customers. so if a game sells 250,000 then thats your market. its not 250,000+ pirated copies or a certain percentage of pirated copies...its 250,000 and you make the game for that 250,000.

SF was late and brought to a platform that has a very limited fanbase for beat em ups. if it sold more than 100,000 on the PC then i would be very surprised. so capcom shouldnt be thinking "oh but it was pirated X amount of times so were not going to bother". they only question they should be asking is "did the PC version pay for itself and turn a tidy profit?". if it didnt then fair enough. if it did (and if capcom are talking about strong sales for it on the PC then it probably did) then they are very fricking stupid for not bringing it to the PC.

this business of "oh it was pirated alot so theres no point" is absolutely stupid and any company that thinks like that shouldnt be in business to be frank. if a game is profitable then job done....the effort was worth it and you target your next project at those people who did buy it and budget accodringly. whether its 200,000 or 2million...make the games for your existing customers. also DLC does sell on the PC..this idea of PC gamers being smart enough not to buy it....an illusion. the map packs for MW2 sell loads (it was in the top 10 selling items on steam for ages). so if capcom cant sell DLC for their PC versions then there doing something very wrong.

osan0
That's a strange opinion to me. I know loads of people who pirate their movies, tv shows, and music, because it's so trivially easy. But they go out and spend 30, 40, 50 euro a pop on each game. When piracy is so easy, it's the path of least resistance, and loads of people take it. When paying for for it is the only option, or at least the easiest, safest option, they tend to take that. In my experience.
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#110 hotfiree
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Knowing capcom you would pay for the disc, pop it and and at the title menu you get a message. To continue with the content on this disc, please click the link below and send us $30. Do this like rocksteady did how they didnt let batman glide on pirated versions. Dont let the players characters do damage, only recieve it.
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#111 SaltyMeatballs
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That makes no sense though, you're either happy with sales, upset with sales, or upset with pirates.
Piracy. It's the new excuse for developers to get away from the PC platform, because they're unable to abuse the audience with cheap DLC like costumes and map packs. Merex760
MW2 proved you can get away with a lot on PC.
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#112 GreenGoblin2099
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Don't know if this has been discussed as well, but I just read that they are also planning on porting the Arcade version to consoles.

lol@all those who believe Capcom and bought SSFIV thinking they wouldn't release a newer version of it :lol:

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#113 TheSterls
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That makes no sense though, you're either happy with sales, upset with sales, or upset with pirates.[QUOTE="Merex760"]Piracy. It's the new excuse for developers to get away from the PC platform, because they're unable to abuse the audience with cheap DLC like costumes and map packs. SaltyMeatballs
MW2 proved you can get away with a lot on PC.

Why are hermits acting like costumes and mappacks are all thats on the pc version? It also has 6 new characters and no there is no pc mod that allows you to play as them .

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#115 HuusAsking
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Don't know if this has been discussed as well, but I just read that they are also planning on porting the Arcade version to consoles.

lol@all those who believe Capcom and bought SSFIV thinking they wouldn't release a newer version of it :lol:

GreenGoblin2099
That's simply because the arcade version of SSFIV (and indeed SFIV itself) runs on the Taito Type X2 system--essentially a Windows XP machine.
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#116 Androvinus
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but but buh PC is da besst
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#117 hiphops_savior
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Playing the piracy card, when in reality they just don't like the open-ended nature of the PC and the mods that come along with it. Maybe that's why they never released SFIV on the Wii, not because of graphical capabilities (as seen in Tatsunoko vs Capcom), but because the Wii doesn't allow them to rip customers off on DLC.
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#118 deactivated-635601fd996cc
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but but buh PC is da besstAndrovinus
Comparing it to consoles duh. But, this is a PC self-crit thread.
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#119 hypoty
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These are the same guys that are disappointed with 2.7 million copies sold of DMC4. They seem to have unrealistic expectations of the industry. They need to realise that every game on PC is going to get pirated to hell and back. If it's selling well, like SF4, then it's a success. They have to measure their success on the PC platform through the sales not the number of times it was pirated.

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#120 deactivated-58b6232955e4a
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Okay you don't release a game late and for full price.... I would be surprised if Darkstalkers didn't bomb because it's $40 (more than the console versions) and is late.
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#121 Snagal123
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These are the same guys that are disappointed with 2.7 million copies sold of DMC4.

hypoty

I'm guessing they expect the new DMC to sell 10 million, i think they might be disappointed.

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#122 imprezawrx500
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[QUOTE="Ultizer"]

Its very easy to play pirated copies of GFWL games online

thats one of the reasons why Steam exclusvie is always the best

Snagal123

I didn't know that.

I agree Steam is what makes sense but they don't want it to be Steam exclusive. This whole thing makes no sense, the game sold well, SSF4 for PC is basically done already, seems they are just looking for excuses not to release it, no real reasons.

and gfwl exclusive is somehow better? both can be bought from the shop and both have to be connected to the internet to work, but gfwl is highly hated while many people like steam. Steam is starting to take over now though. thq and 2k now use steamworks in all their games as well as many other games like just cause 2 ,fear 2 mw2, fallout new vegas and many others. gfwl is slowly losing publishers.
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#123 imprezawrx500
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[QUOTE="kobraka1"]

in before crysis...........

Ultizer

the piracy part of Crysis?

pretty sure Crysis sold very well on PC

Crytek wanted Crysis 2 on consoles after seeing the amount of sales MW2 pulled in (why else would they be claiming its a Halo killer?) so the Crytek CEO said for every copy of crysis bought, 20 were pirated, yeah sure 25million people have played Crysis

Piracy is a good scapegoat

It will be a great game but wont sell anywhere near that of mw2 or anything call of duty or halo in it. Maybe then he will go back to making game without console limitations.
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#124 Darth_DuMas
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I have to say, what i'm getting from PC gamers is, companies use piracy as an excuse and it's the consumer that gets hurt.

How about pirates help themselves to games without paying and it's the consumers that get hurt.

Also MW2 pirated out of protest because the game wasn't made the way PC gamers think they were owed, or something. :? that doesn't make it ok.

It seems the PC gamers are making excuses to me.

Stop excusing piracy, it's really not ok and yes it is a problem. There is a reason Publisher make DRM which irritates people.

Piracy is a problem, that's why Ubisoft thought it necessary to have an always online DRM (even if it was misguided and irritating).

I'm not saying all PC gamers pirate, but I have noticed that people in general tend to make a lot of excuses for them regardless of the medium they are pirating.

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#125 HFkami
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old news, but imo the had to give dlc a try better than nothing