"End of used games would have severe consequences for gaming"

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Digital download anyone?

Bigboi500

Hope they don't because lately I've started back buying used games (as long as they're complete). I can't exactly afford all the games I want while they're still in print. DS games, for instance, seem to only stay in print for a few months, and then they just disappear. If you don't buy immediately (which would be hard to do with all the ones you might be interested in), poof, they'd be gone forever because you wouldn't be able to buy them used.

I also don't recall there ever being PC rental game stores. Making it illegal to distribute a used game would shut down million dollar companies like gamefly overnight. You don't think that would have any impact?

Pixel-Pirate

I don't know about a PC rental store. But, there used to be used PC game/software/hardware stores at least up to the early 90's. I remember (mid-1992 at Champaign-Urbana) trading in my Amiga 500/games/hardware for a Leading Edge 386SX-25 and Secret of Monkey Island 2. Beyond that year, I don't know.

[QUOTE="Cruse34"]

I can't see it ever happening, but there might be a large fight over it in the years to come. And it could push DD more then pirating

Pixel-Pirate

I personally don't see the huge appeal of DD. Especially for people who have bandwith caps.

I doubt ones ISP will enjoy you downloading 300 GB's of games a month.

Publishers don't care about Gamefly. Gamers who use Gamefly, likely never buy the game anyway considering they can keep the games for as long as they want anyway. So they're likely to be hurting sales aswell. Once digital distribution kicks off on consoles, you're gonna see them pushing out very competitive prices to get people to stop buying used games anyway. All in all... I still think publishers will still see a rise in profit. Cause let's face it. There are way too many gamers who go to Gamestop and buy the used game cause it's like $6 cheaper than the new game. You guys make it seem like these used game buyers just absolutely cannot afford the new title. Gamestop has a vicious cycle set up where they're making a massive amount of profit off people who never end up buying games new. Mystic-G

Let's face it, there are tons of games out there that are pure crap, they get hyped, and a lot of people spend hard earned dollars on them and that's basically ripping customers off since they don't get to see what it's like before they buy it, and then they can't return it. There aren't many markets where customers have to just take a huge chance and jump in without knowing if what they are getting is good or not.

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[QUOTE="Cruse34"]

I can't see it ever happening, but there might be a large fight over it in the years to come. And it could push DD more then pirating

Mystic-G

I personally don't see the huge appeal of DD. Especially for people who have bandwith caps.

I doubt ones ISP will enjoy you downloading 300 GB's of games a month.

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[QUOTE="Cruxis27"]

Digital download anyone?

imprezawrx500

How does selling used games differ from selling used cars or furniture or clothes? You don't see Gap complaining that they aren't making enough money because of yard sales. The game company should sell their game to make enough money and then that's it. Why do people find it acceptable for them to want more money out of consumers? And yes piracy WILL boom if used game sales end. Some of you made comments that some of you thing it's worth spending money for games but others could leave it if it got too expensive. Well THAT'S NOT TRUE!!! I love gaming. I own every nintendo system out there. I have quite a few games ALL USED. Why 1) I am thrifty and green why buy something new when I could save something from going into the trash. It's angering that some EULA state that the disk should be destroyed if not used. 2) I truly can't afford it....when i have rent, utilities, food, gas for my used car etc. lets see $60 new or $10. used? Geee hard choice there. Also what if I don't like the game if I buy it used OPEN it up most store will only accept a trade or store credit well what if there isn't anything I want????? 3) Many of the games I buy used right now are for the 64 and game boy advance> How would I get those? My sisters LOVE their DSs but our family could not afford to feed them AND buy new games. I suppose there are some people who think "well then your sisters don't get to play games" Well since everything else is soooooo expensive I guess they should just sit in their rooms and stare at the wall. (parks cost money, sports cost money, arcades cost money, even books cost money and don't say go to the library with budget cuts library book selection is failing) In ending if a company deems a game should coat $65 then thats ALL the money they should make on it. parsnip39

I can understand why you want games to be as cheap as reasonably possible. But I can also understand why the developers who spend years working on a game would like to earn money off your buying their game. You state that all your games were bought used, in that case you've never actually supported the developers who created those games financially. Sure you've supported your local store, but not the people who created the game.

As said, I can understand why you'd like to see a low price on games, but on the flip side, can you see why developers would want to ensure that they see a profit off the people who buy and play their games?

The goal of the developers and publishers are not to force you to pay more (though I'm sure they'd be happy to if they thought it would result in a higher profit), rather their goal is to ensure that they see part of the profit generated when someone buys one of their games.

Personally I don't think used games will become 'illegal' I can't really see that happening to be honest. However what I think we will see much more off is a system that treats used games as 'demos'. EA have already done a lot in that regard. If you buy a new copy of BioWares games you get 'free' copies of 2-3 sets of DLC. If you rent it or buy it used, you don't get free copies of the DLC. In other words, you can rent or buy a used copy buy you won't get the full game when you do. If you want the full game, you'll need to pay an additional cost to the publisher.

Normally a publisher makes something like $12 per new game sold in the stores (if I remember right). With this system, you could buy a used game for $10-15-20 less than the retail price then go home and try it out. But if you want to play the full game, you'll need to pay the $12 to get access to the rest of the game. It'll then be up to GameStop to decide if they are willing to reduce the price of their used games. Currently GameStop earn far more money per used game sold than they do per new game sold simply because they are able to cut the developer / publisher out of the deal.

[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

I also don't recall there ever being PC rental game stores. Making it illegal to distribute a used game would shut down million dollar companies like gamefly overnight. You don't think that would have any impact?

jun_aka_pekto

I don't know about a PC rental store. But, there used to be used PC game/software/hardware stores at least up to the early 90's. I remember (mid-1992 at Champaign-Urbana) trading in my Amiga 500/games/hardware for a Leading Edge 386SX-25 and Secret of Monkey Island 2. Beyond that year, I don't know.

Not likely.

There is no DD system in existence that has every PC game ever made for download. Do you think Nintendo and various companies will make EVERY GAME THEY EVER PUBLISHED available as DD? Hell, we barely get any DD NES games on the virtual console anymore. Copyright and licensing issues has also caused certain games to not come out ever (Goldeneye).

Man, would suck to be a guy like James Rolfe. Can't complete your NES collection because it's now illegal to buy old NES games.

Pixel-Pirate