"gAmeS R MENT 4 PHuN!" I'm sick of hearing this

Why so series TC? WTF?

games are in fact meant to be fun that is their reason for existenceSure. If thats whatyou want to call it

SMG is a great game, as is LBP i have no brain because i enjoy them?Do you like to play them alone, even after you beat the story mode?

somebody is a raging fanboy if they believe that gears dept? lol that story is as half-baked as halo's would be without the books TF2 has moar depth than gears, actually it has moar depth than most shooters if you thin games like gears and fable have depth i pity you you need to play games with true depth Civilization, Galactic Civilization, Total war, Sins of a Solar Empire these are games with true depth that far outdo the shallow shooters and glorified action games. Sorry I enjoy playing games online with friends, and none of them play obscure titles like those.

shadow_hosi

Fun = "activities that are enjoyable or amusing"

Fun is what games, and any entertainment is about, it's just that "fun" is a very subjective concept. I'm sure that a developer making a strategy game wants it to be fun, it just doesn't have to be fun for everybody, only for people who they are targeting.

Every game is not made with the HARDCORE gamer in mind. Overall games are made for fun. Whoever develops the game will make it fun for whomever they TARGET. While some might believe using a chainsaw bayonett to saw the guts out of a Locuts beast is FUN.....some might see it as Horror or just plain disturbing.Every game on the Market wont satisfy all. IIJuggaNottII

Tho I agree with TC that when trying to look things objectively "fun" is no excuse for poor games, we have certain standards that can be defined and fun alone just doesn't cut it.

[QUOTE="shadow_hosi"]Why so series TC? WTF?

games are in fact meant to be fun that is their reason for existenceSure. If thats whatyou want to call it Well i dont know about you, but when i was little and played a game with my friends, we did it for fun. thats why they are called games. they are ment for entertainment and fun, ill be technical here for a moment an amusement or pastime: children's games. is the definition of 'game'

SMG is a great game, as is LBP i have no brain because i enjoy them?Do you like to play them alone, even after you beat the story mode?yes i do, they are quite fun still

somebody is a raging fanboy if they believe that gears dept? lol that story is as half-baked as halo's would be without the books TF2 has moar depth than gears, actually it has moar depth than most shooters if you thin games like gears and fable have depth i pity you you need to play games with true depth Civilization, Galactic Civilization, Total war, Sins of a Solar Empire these are games with true depth that far outdo the shallow shooters and glorified action games. Sorry I enjoy playing games online with friends, and none of them play obscure titles like those.obscure? lol not so much all of them, except gal. civ. have an online mode so go ahaid and play them with your friends.

wzboson

[QUOTE="shadow_hosi"]Why so series TC? WTF?

games are in fact meant to be fun that is their reason for existenceSure. If thats whatyou want to call it

SMG is a great game, as is LBP i have no brain because i enjoy them?Do you like to play them alone, even after you beat the story mode?

somebody is a raging fanboy if they believe that gears dept? lol that story is as half-baked as halo's would be without the books TF2 has moar depth than gears, actually it has moar depth than most shooters if you thin games like gears and fable have depth i pity you you need to play games with true depth Civilization, Galactic Civilization, Total war, Sins of a Solar Empire these are games with true depth that far outdo the shallow shooters and glorified action games. Sorry I enjoy playing games online with friends, and none of them play obscure titles like those.

wzboson

Civilization?

Sins of a Solar Empire?

Medieval II: Total War?

All obscure to you? Wow.

[QUOTE="EuroMafia"] Yeah, isn't daemon some PC software? lol, not another spelling for demon.shadow_hosi

Daemon is the original spelling I believe but also refers to a background process in unix circles.

[QUOTE="TheOddQuantum"][QUOTE="shadow_hosi"] yep grey gray :P its like armor and armour demon and daemon? i think color tooEuroMafia

[QUOTE="shadow_hosi"][QUOTE="EuroMafia"] Yeah, isn't daemon some PC software? lol, not another spelling for demon.speedsix

Daemon is the original spelling I believe but also refers to a background process in unix circles.

Can I just point out that this was my 666th post. Erk!:twisted:

"Games are meant to be fun!" Is a lame excuse for defending shallow gameplay.

Guess what guys? People have different ideas of what is "fun". I find games like Deus Ex, Thief, X-Com, Civilization etc. fun even (or more like BECAUSE) they are complex and have depth. I honestly find most games with simple/shallow gameplay to be extremely boring after 5 minutes, yeah I may have liked those when I was three years old but I'd rather play games that require me to use my brain thank you very much.

[QUOTE="speedsix"]

[QUOTE="shadow_hosi"] .....speedsix

Daemon is the original spelling I believe but also refers to a background process in unix circles.

Can I just point out that this was my 666th post. Erk!:twisted:

[QUOTE="EuroMafia"][QUOTE="TheOddQuantum"] Yes colour(UK) and color (US). For some reason Americans can't seem to use the letter "u" (I jest).Oh and I don't think anyone uses "daemon".TheOddQuantum

[QUOTE="speedsix"][QUOTE="speedsix"]

Daemon is the original spelling I believe but also refers to a background process in unix circles.

shadow_hosi

Can I just point out that this was my 666th post. Erk!:twisted:

1. but lets face it: we don't party all the time, so the games that have depth are the ones of real value.
2. Anyone who sits at home alone and playsSMG LBP or Wii Sports has no brain, and if they try to defend it against playing games like Gears 2 or MGS4 they can refer to my last few paragraphs for reasons they are stupid.

wzboson

1. Seeing as I'm feeling faint symptoms of a hangover I'd suggest you speak for nobody but yourself and not for me please.
2. So I'm stupid if I sit at home alone and play SMG. I have no brain? Sorry I'm not too big a fan of MGS4. Gears 2 is pretty good though.

[QUOTE="wzboson"]

1. but lets face it: we don't party all the time, so the games that have depth are the ones of real value.
2. Anyone who sits at home alone and playsSMG LBP or Wii Sports has no brain, and if they try to defend it against playing games like Gears 2 or MGS4 they can refer to my last few paragraphs for reasons they are stupid.

Blackbond

1. Seeing as I'm feeling faint symptoms of a hangover I'd suggest you speak for nobody but yourself and not for me please.
2. So I'm stupid if I sit at home alone and play SMG. I have no brain? Sorry I'm not too big a fan of MGS4. Gears 2 is pretty good though.

/thread

[QUOTE="KG86"]Since when do SMG and LBP have no depth?wzboson

So wait because a game has no multiplayer its bad?

• Uncharted
• Ninja Gaiden 2
• Most RPGS
• Devil May Cry
• ect

1. Ninja Gaiden
2. Practically the entire Fighting genre
3. LBP
4. Wii Sports

[QUOTE="KG86"]Since when do SMG and LBP have no depth?wzboson

[QUOTE="wzboson"][QUOTE="KG86"]Since when do SMG and LBP have no depth?Blackbond

So wait because a game has no multiplayer its bad?

• Uncharted
• Ninja Gaiden 2
• Most RPGS
• Devil May Cry
• ect

1. Ninja Gaiden
2. Practically the entire Fighting genre
3. LBP
4. Wii Sports

Tetris, Sports Games, Racing Games, and most Sims must not be fun because they have no story either!

Every game is not made with the HARDCORE gamer in mind. Overall games are made for fun. Whoever develops the game will make it fun for whomever they TARGET. While some might believe using a chainsaw bayonett to saw the guts out of a Locuts beast is FUN.....some might see it as Horror or just plain disturbing.Every game on the Market wont satisfy all. IIJuggaNottII

Many of you may have heard this phrase used to defend games like wii sports and LBP when compared to games like Gears 2 Fable and MGS4. The idea many people have is that games are meant to be mindless fun with no depth at all, and that any endeavors towards depth realism or story make the game boring. This is concept not present in any other form of media, and is used primarily by wii fanboys, because their system is less capable of approaching realism, and more suitable towards games like deca sports.

TeH COLORRSS! I'm also sick of people pointing to games like gears COD and resistances graphics, and saying that they are inferior to say, mario galaxy, because they like color. What color do you think war is? Pink and green?

Games have come a long way, and can now be enjoyed like a good book, or as party games, but lets face it: we don't party all the time, so the games that have depth are the ones of real value. Anyone who sits at home alone and plays SMG LBP or Wii Sports has no brain, and if they try to defend it against playing games like Gears 2 or MGS4 they can refer to my last few paragraphs for reasons they are stupid.

Many of you may have heard this phrase used to defend games like wii sports and LBP when compared to games like Gears 2 Fable and MGS4. The idea many people have is that games are meant to be mindless fun with no depth at all, and that any endeavors towards depth realism or story make the game boring. This is concept not present in any other form of media, and is used primarily by wii fanboys, because their system is less capable of approaching realism, and more suitable towards games like deca sports.

TeH COLORRSS! I'm also sick of people pointing to games like gears COD and resistances graphics, and saying that they are inferior to say, mario galaxy, because they like color. What color do you think war is? Pink and green?

Games have come a long way, and can now be enjoyed like a good book, or as party games, but lets face it: we don't party all the time, so the games that have depth are the ones of real value. Anyone who sits at home alone and plays SMG LBP or Wii Sports has no brain, and if they try to defend it against playing games like Gears 2 or MGS4 they can refer to my last few paragraphs for reasons they are stupid.

[QUOTE="wzboson"]

[QUOTE="shadow_hosi"]Why so series TC? WTF?

games are in fact meant to be fun that is their reason for existenceSure. If thats whatyou want to call it

SMG is a great game, as is LBP i have no brain because i enjoy them?Do you like to play them alone, even after you beat the story mode?

somebody is a raging fanboy if they believe that gears dept? lol that story is as half-baked as halo's would be without the books TF2 has moar depth than gears, actually it has moar depth than most shooters if you thin games like gears and fable have depth i pity you you need to play games with true depth Civilization, Galactic Civilization, Total war, Sins of a Solar Empire these are games with true depth that far outdo the shallow shooters and glorified action games. Sorry I enjoy playing games online with friends, and none of them play obscure titles like those.

TheOddQuantum

Civilization?

Sins of a Solar Empire?

Medieval II: Total War?

All obscure to you? Wow.

I really, really, really want to know just what was going through your head when you decided to make this topic. What in the farking HELL are videogames supposed to be played (note that verb) for then? To educate? To punish? By all that is holy, tell me what, because I'm apparently too blind to see something that defies logic.Verge_6

then why would you play a game that is not fun?Rigga911

Same thing as my above post. I do think games are for fun.

My problem is mainly with *wii* gamers that act like fun can only be mindless, bright and colorful.

I have seen people use this argument to say that wii sports is better than geow2.

Also, an interesting issue that has stemmed from this is whether fun and entertainment are synonomous.

Many of you may have heard this phrase used to defend games like wii sports and LBP when compared to games like Gears 2 Fable and MGS4. The idea many people have is that games are meant to be mindless fun with no depth at all, and that any endeavors towards depth realism or story make the game boring. This is concept not present in any other form of media, and is used primarily by wii fanboys, because their system is less capable of approaching realism, and more suitable towards games like deca sports.

TeH COLORRSS! I'm also sick of people pointing to games like gears COD and resistances graphics, and saying that they are inferior to say, mario galaxy, because they like color. What color do you think war is? Pink and green?

Games have come a long way, and can now be enjoyed like a good book, or as party games, but lets face it: we don't party all the time, so the games that have depth are the ones of real value. Anyone who sits at home alone and plays SMG LBP or Wii Sports has no brain, and if they try to defend it against playing games like Gears 2 or MGS4 they can refer to my last few paragraphs for reasons they are stupid.

wzboson

I don't know about you, but I have fun playing video games...that is the reason why I play them. The fun stops when your system dies due to crappy hardware. That part sucks and isn't as much fun.

[QUOTE="Verge_6"]I really, really, really want to know just what was going through your head when you decided to make this topic. What in the farking HELL are videogames supposed to be played (note that verb) for then? To educate? To punish? By all that is holy, tell me what, because I'm apparently too blind to see something that defies logic.wzboson

[QUOTE="Rigga911"]then why would you play a game that is not fun?wzboson

Same thing as my above post. I do think games are for fun.

My problem is mainly with *wii* gamers that act like fun can only be mindless, bright and colorful.

I have seen people use this argument to say that wii sports is better than geow2.

Also, an interesting issue that has stemmed from this is whether fun and entertainment are synonomous.

Well I'll tell you what I'm sick of: People saying wii gamers are mindless. Have you played the wii before? I think not. Have you played Mario Galaxy, Okami, Zelda, Paper Mario, Metroid? Those are just some of the games with story. THere are plenty more. And as for LBP..it has a story! Wow! Bet you didn't know that because once again...YOU'VE NEVER PLAYED IT! ANother thing that I'm sick! People who have never played games...and bash them!

Seriously, before you create a topic, you should think it through.

[QUOTE="wzboson"][QUOTE="KG86"]Since when do SMG and LBP have no depth?Blackbond

So wait because a game has no multiplayer its bad?

[QUOTE="wzboson"]

[QUOTE="Rigga911"]then why would you play a game that is not fun?siefier25

Same thing as my above post. I do think games are for fun.

My problem is mainly with *wii* gamers that act like fun can only be mindless, bright and colorful.

I have seen people use this argument to say that wii sports is better than geow2.

Also, an interesting issue that has stemmed from this is whether fun and entertainment are synonomous.

Well I'll tell you what I'm sick of: People saying wii gamers are mindless. Have you played the wii before? I think not. Have you played Mario Galaxy, Okami, Zelda, Paper Mario, Metroid? Those are just some of the games with story. THere are plenty more. And as for LBP..it has a story! Wow! Bet you didn't know that because once again...YOU'VE NEVER PLAYED IT! ANother thing that I'm sick! People who have never played games...and bash them!

Seriously, before you create a topic, you should think it through.

Games are like movies. There are popcorn movies and there are those that have deep story. But in the end, the first thing a game/movie must be is enjoyable/fun. If it doesnt cross that barrier, then it doesnt matter how deep it is.

[QUOTE="Blackbond"]

[QUOTE="wzboson"] not really, SMG has no multiplayer, and LBP has no story for what you'll be playing 90% of the timewzboson

So wait because a game has no multiplayer its bad?

You never explained to me why mp adds depth or answered my actual serious post that was trying to answer your question. Do you want to see the post again, I'm willing to give you serious answers.

[QUOTE="wzboson"][QUOTE="Verge_6"]I really, really, really want to know just what was going through your head when you decided to make this topic. What in the farking HELL are videogames supposed to be played (note that verb) for then? To educate? To punish? By all that is holy, tell me what, because I'm apparently too blind to see something that defies logic.Verge_6

[QUOTE="wzboson"][QUOTE="Blackbond"]

So wait because a game has no multiplayer its bad?

UnchartedNinja Gaiden 2Most RPGSDevil May CryectMust be all bad games.So because a game has no story exactly makes it no fun?Ninja GaidenPractically the entire Fighting genreLBPWii SportsMust be all bad games

ActicEdge

You never explained to me why mp adds depth or answered my actual serious post that was trying to answer your question. Do you want to see the post again, I'm willing to give you serious answers.