"I don't think our "V" can reach that level"~ Hideo Kojima

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#51 uninspiredcup
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[QUOTE="uninspiredcup"]

[QUOTE="Malta_1980"]

Reason why MGS doesnt have to reach most of those games is quite simple..  Those games have to reach MGS !!

Malta_1980

 

An incoherent mess  up it's own bum? Alot of games can do that. Sadly people like Valve actually have writers than just some Asain dude who watched abit too much Rambo and Xfiles.

yeah because L4D, Counter Strike, Portal & Team Fortress 2 have such complex and amazing stories done by great writers !!!

ppfff

 

Actually, since you decided to try cheat and use multiplayer, Left4dead and Team Fortress 2 has great writing. Far better quility than anything hiyo koneema had done. In fact you could argue before Team Fortress 2, multiplayer games lacked any character or writing of high quility. Look how many multiplayer games try that now.


And yea, Portal 1/2 (esp 2) has writing that kills Metal Gear Solid. lol it's not even a comparison.

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#52 Malta_1980
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Actually, since you decided to try cheat and use multiplayer, Left4dead and Team Fortress 2 has great writing. Far better quility than anything hiyo koneema had done. In fact you could argue before Team Fortress 2, multiplayer games lacked any character or writing of high quility. Look how many multiplayer games try that now.


And yea, Portal 1/2 (esp 2) has writing that kills Metal Gear Solid. lol it's not even a comparison.

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Nope I didnt cheat at all... i wanted to show you that the only good writing from any of Valve's games was in the Half-Life series which i love...

TF2 is one of the most fun i've had when it comes to online shooters and the rest are all good/great games but surely there's no better writing compared to MGS..

You may not like the MGS series but at least compare the gameplay, sounds  or fun aspect since that is subjective.. However if you want to compare story telling  & quality in writing its not a matter of opinion it is a FACT that none of these games (HL series excluded) is remotely close to MGS level !!

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#53 uninspiredcup
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Nope I didnt cheat at all... i wanted to show you that the only good writing from any of Valve's games was in the Half-Life series which i love...Malta_1980

 

Then you failed miserably.

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#54 Malta_1980
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[QUOTE="Malta_1980"]Nope I didnt cheat at all... i wanted to show you that the only good writing from any of Valve's games was in the Half-Life series which i love...uninspiredcup

 

Then you failed miserably.

I think the one who failed is actually you.. I'm still waiting for you to show/proof how the following have better writing/more complex stories compared to MGS series

1 - TEAM FORTRESS series

2 - Portal Series

3 - Counter Strike Series

4 - L4D series

Please go ahead, and should you convince me I'll be happy to admit I failed :) 

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#55 Krelian-co
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Metal Gear Solid doesn't reach halflife, portal, Team Fortress 2, Witcher 2, Rogue legacy, Hitman 2,3,4, Saints Row 2/3 e,t,c,,,,

uninspiredcup

no, its better

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#56 uninspiredcup
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I think the one who failed is actually you.. Malta_1980

 

Well, you're thinking wrong... because i'm quite clearly right.

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#57 AD216
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gta V looks like an easy goty winner and possibly the goat. words i never thought i would say again

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#58 Sagem28
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Grorious Kojima-san !

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#59 edwardecl
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Comparing a Multiplayer only FPS game to a single player game in writing terms is a bit idiotic.

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#60 parkurtommo
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The amount of quality that we saw in that GTA 5 trailer was miles above anything we've ever seen a game do previously. Rockstar just proved that you don't need massive amounts of power to make stellar games.

GTA 5 will be the best game of this generation. Simple as that. It will put almost all next gen games to shame.

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A hardcore PC gamer saying that a (currently) console exclusive will be the best game of the generation? :shock: Also, people shouldn't get so hyped over this crap.... what if the game ends up being slightly less than you expected, like Bioshock Infinite? I can pretty much guarantee it will flop considering half the gamers in the entire world are hyping this way too much.
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#61 parkurtommo
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[QUOTE="uninspiredcup"]

[QUOTE="Malta_1980"]Nope I didnt cheat at all... i wanted to show you that the only good writing from any of Valve's games was in the Half-Life series which i love...Malta_1980

 

Then you failed miserably.

I think the one who failed is actually you.. I'm still waiting for you to show/proof how the following have better writing/more complex stories compared to MGS series

1 - TEAM FORTRESS series

2 - Portal Series

3 - Counter Strike Series

4 - L4D series

Please go ahead, and should you convince me I'll be happy to admit I failed :) 

Multiplayer games have writing?
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#62 Malta_1980
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[QUOTE="Malta_1980"]I think the one who failed is actually you.. uninspiredcup

 

Well, you're thinking wrong... because i'm quite clearly right.

if you truly believe that then the user icon must represent you since its ears & eyes are covered and thus cannot truly see/listen to reality :P !!

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#63 Malta_1980
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[QUOTE="Malta_1980"]

[QUOTE="uninspiredcup"]

 

Then you failed miserably.

parkurtommo

I think the one who failed is actually you.. I'm still waiting for you to show/proof how the following have better writing/more complex stories compared to MGS series

1 - TEAM FORTRESS series

2 - Portal Series

3 - Counter Strike Series

4 - L4D series

Please go ahead, and should you convince me I'll be happy to admit I failed :) 

Multiplayer games have writing?

that was my point.... the other poster said Valve games have better writing and went on to list the likes of Portal & TF2.. So I wanted to know how such games have better/more complex story telling/writing..

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#64 deactivated-66e3137ab3ad5
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Dammit R*, look what you did! You made Kojima cry :evil:
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#65 parkurtommo
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[QUOTE="parkurtommo"][QUOTE="Malta_1980"]

I think the one who failed is actually you.. I'm still waiting for you to show/proof how the following have better writing/more complex stories compared to MGS series

1 - TEAM FORTRESS series

2 - Portal Series

3 - Counter Strike Series

4 - L4D series

Please go ahead, and should you convince me I'll be happy to admit I failed :) 

Malta_1980

Multiplayer games have writing?

that was my point.... the other poster said Valve games have better writing and went on to list the likes of Portal & TF2.. So I wanted to know how such games have better/more complex story telling/writing..

I see, I should've read those posts before quoting, sorry.
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#66 parkurtommo
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Dammit R*, look what you did! You made Kojima cry :evil:khoofia_pika
I'm sure every time a rockstar game gets sold a developer cries himself to sleep, knowing that they won't be able to achieve such mastery.
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#67 AD216
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[QUOTE="khoofia_pika"]Dammit R*, look what you did! You made Kojima cry :evil:parkurtommo
I'm sure every time a rockstar game gets sold a developer cries himself to sleep, knowing that they won't be able to achieve such mastery.

doubt it. but gta v should be keeping everyone up at night. that game looks flawless
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#68 deactivated-66e3137ab3ad5
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[QUOTE="khoofia_pika"]Dammit R*, look what you did! You made Kojima cry :evil:parkurtommo
I'm sure every time a rockstar game gets sold a developer cries himself to sleep, knowing that they won't be able to achieve such mastery.

Except for Nintendo, of course :cool: [spoiler] and BioWare *runs off* [/spoiler]
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[QUOTE="khoofia_pika"]Dammit R*, look what you did! You made Kojima cry :evil:parkurtommo
I'm sure every time a rockstar game gets sold a developer cries himself to sleep, knowing that they won't be able to achieve such mastery.

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#70 AD216
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[QUOTE="parkurtommo"][QUOTE="khoofia_pika"]Dammit R*, look what you did! You made Kojima cry :evil:khoofia_pika
I'm sure every time a rockstar game gets sold a developer cries himself to sleep, knowing that they won't be able to achieve such mastery.

Except for Nintendo, of course :cool: [spoiler] and BioWare *runs off* [/spoiler]

this game looks better than anything those 2 have made in a long time :lol:
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#71 Sagem28
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[spoiler] and BioWare *runs off* [/spoiler] khoofia_pika

Yeah, you better run !

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#72 deactivated-66e3137ab3ad5
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[QUOTE="AD216"][QUOTE="khoofia_pika"][QUOTE="parkurtommo"] I'm sure every time a rockstar game gets sold a developer cries himself to sleep, knowing that they won't be able to achieve such mastery.

Except for Nintendo, of course :cool: [spoiler] and BioWare *runs off* [/spoiler]

this game looks better than anything those 2 have made in a long time :lol:

Lets not turn this into a "Nintendo > R*" thread. But yes, Nintendo > R* k bye
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[QUOTE="khoofia_pika"]

[spoiler] and BioWare *runs off* [/spoiler] Sagem28

Yeah, you better run !

*peeks* Oh crap. *rans away again*
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#74 parkurtommo
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[QUOTE="khoofia_pika"][QUOTE="AD216"][QUOTE="khoofia_pika"] Except for Nintendo, of course :cool: [spoiler] and BioWare *runs off* [/spoiler]

this game looks better than anything those 2 have made in a long time :lol:

Lets not turn this into a "Nintendo > R*" thread. But yes, Nintendo > R* k bye

Back so soon? :cool:
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[QUOTE="parkurtommo"][QUOTE="khoofia_pika"][QUOTE="AD216"] this game looks better than anything those 2 have made in a long time :lol:

Lets not turn this into a "Nintendo > R*" thread. But yes, Nintendo > R* k bye

Back so soon? :cool:

I was just passing by :oops:
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#76 AD216
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[QUOTE="khoofia_pika"][QUOTE="AD216"][QUOTE="khoofia_pika"] Except for Nintendo, of course :cool: [spoiler] and BioWare *runs off* [/spoiler]

this game looks better than anything those 2 have made in a long time :lol:

Lets not turn this into a "Nintendo > R*" thread. But yes, Nintendo > R* k bye

i have nothin but respect 4 nintendo and imo theyre the undisputed greatest dev of all time but gta v is better than anything theyve had in a while
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[QUOTE="AD216"][QUOTE="khoofia_pika"][QUOTE="AD216"] this game looks better than anything those 2 have made in a long time :lol:

Lets not turn this into a "Nintendo > R*" thread. But yes, Nintendo > R* k bye

i have nothin but respect 4 nintendo and imo theyre the undisputed greatest dev of all time but gta v is better than anything theyve had in a while

It looks amazing, yeah. Can't wait to get my hands on it. I just wish R* release some more gameplay vids soon.
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#78 uninspiredcup
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[QUOTE="uninspiredcup"]

Metal Gear Solid doesn't reach halflife, portal, Team Fortress 2, Witcher 2, Rogue legacy, Hitman 2,3,4, Saints Row 2/3 e,t,c,,,,

Krelian-co

no, its better

 

Says the guy with the Asshole creed avatar.

 

Lets nail this down.

 

1. Team Fortress 2, best FPS team shooter ever.

2. Portal 1/2, best Puzzle game ever.

3. Halflife 1/2 best game, game ever.

4. Rogue Legacy, recent indie game at least 10 times betterer.

5. Witcher 2, it's ok.

 

Hideo whatever just created phyco-babble to appeal to animoo fans who like self important dribble.

Also kotor 2'S better.

 

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#79 faizan_faizan
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Not surprised. MGSV looked like a turd in front of GTA V. GTA V is going to be the GOTY, GOTG, GOTD, and the GOAT. 10/10 :cool:
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#80 AD216
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Not surprised. MGSV looked like a turd in front of GTA V. GTA V is going to be the GOTY, GOTG, GOTD, and the GOAT. 10/10 :cool:faizan_faizan
that's what i said. it doesnt look like it has any flaws at all and online play is a huge bonus if done right
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Not surprised. MGSV looked like a turd in front of GTA V. GTA V is going to be the GOTY, GOTG, GOTD, and the GOAT. 10/10 :cool:faizan_faizan

 

I disagree man...MGS 5 looked amazing.

 

iAIHkKIPz9aDe.gif

 

 

I actually think that's a better rival to GTA 5 than Watchdogs.

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#82 Ben-Buja
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You've heard it from the man himself :D

I'll definitely buy his "V" as well though, open world MGS sounds like a huge win

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#83 faizan_faizan
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[QUOTE="faizan_faizan"]Not surprised. MGSV looked like a turd in front of GTA V. GTA V is going to be the GOTY, GOTG, GOTD, and the GOAT. 10/10 :cool:EYE-OF-HORUS999

 

I disagree man...MGS 5 looked amazing.

 

iAIHkKIPz9aDe.gif

 

 

I actually think that's a better rival to GTA 5 than Watchdogs.

Nah, Watch Dogs would be the better rival for a GTA game. MGS just seems to be in it's own league, separate from other open world games. Probably because it lacks a city, and the atmosphere.
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#84 xmanfan91
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[QUOTE="EYE-OF-HORUS999"]

[QUOTE="faizan_faizan"]Not surprised. MGSV looked like a turd in front of GTA V. GTA V is going to be the GOTY, GOTG, GOTD, and the GOAT. 10/10 :cool:faizan_faizan

 

I disagree man...MGS 5 looked amazing.

 

iAIHkKIPz9aDe.gif

 

 

I actually think that's a better rival to GTA 5 than Watchdogs.

Nah, Watch Dogs would be the better rival for a GTA game. MGS just seems to be in it's own league, separate from other open world games. Probably because it lacks a city, and the atmosphere.

 

 

Watch Dogs looks like another generic Ubisoft open world game. After AC3 I lost huge amount of confidences in Ubisoft.  That's just my opinion. The only thing I see cool about Watch dogs is the hacking. That's badass.

 

How do you know MGS won't have a small city? Doesn't Afghanistan have cities? 

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#85 uninspiredcup
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Not surprised. MGSV looked like a turd in front of GTA V. GTA V is going to be the GOTY, GOTG, GOTD, and the GOAT. 10/10 :cool:faizan_faizan

 

True that. Same old same old. Quiet, deprived of a top. Grow up. Not 13 anymore.

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#86 Ben-Buja
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If V is anything like IV, then I'm sure they'll have no problem.

gamecubepad

Someone didn't get the memo that GTA V is nothing like GTA IV at all. It couldn't be more obvious from the gameplay

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#87 xmanfan91
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[QUOTE="gamecubepad"]

If V is anything like IV, then I'm sure they'll have no problem.

Ben-Buja

Someone didn't get the memo that GTA V is nothing like GTA IV at all. It couldn't be more obvious from the gameplay

 

To me...GTA V is basically a mixture of GTA SA + GTA IV + RDR + Max Payne. Which is one of the best mixtures.  

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#88 faizan_faizan
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[QUOTE="Ben-Buja"]

[QUOTE="gamecubepad"]

If V is anything like IV, then I'm sure they'll have no problem.

EYE-OF-HORUS999

Someone didn't get the memo that GTA V is nothing like GTA IV at all. It couldn't be more obvious from the gameplay

 

To me...GTA V is basically a mixture of GTA SA + GTA IV + RDR + Max Payne. Which is one of the best mixtures.  

And MCLA, that car customization.
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#89 Ben-Buja
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Watch Dogs looks like another generic Ubisoft open world game. After AC3 I lost huge amount of confidences in Ubisoft.  That's just my opinion. The only thing I see cool about Watch dogs is the hacking. That's badass.

 

How do you know MGS won't have a small city? Doesn't Afghanistan have cities? 

EYE-OF-HORUS999

I agree about Watch Dogs, it looks like it will be another of those Ubisoft open world games. Nice graphics, but filled with copy pasted stuff everywhere and not much freedom compared to GTA. We don't even know if you can climb any building in Watch Dogs, if it will have freeroam multiplayer, if there are helicopters or planes...

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[QUOTE="faizan_faizan"]Not surprised. MGSV looked like a turd in front of GTA V. GTA V is going to be the GOTY, GOTG, GOTD, and the GOAT. 10/10 :cool:uninspiredcup

 

True that. Same old same old. Quiet, deprived of a top. Grow up. Not 13 anymore.

Dat jelly.
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#91 uninspiredcup
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[QUOTE="EYE-OF-HORUS999"]

Watch Dogs looks like another generic Ubisoft open world game. After AC3 I lost huge amount of confidences in Ubisoft.  That's just my opinion. The only thing I see cool about Watch dogs is the hacking. That's badass.

 

How do you know MGS won't have a small city? Doesn't Afghanistan have cities? 

Ben-Buja

I agree about Watch Dogs, it looks like it will be another of those Ubisoft open world games. Nice graphics, but filled with copy pasted stuff everywhere and not much freedom compared to GTA. We don't even know if you can climb any building in Watch Dogs, if it will have freeroam multiplayer, if there are helicopters or planes...

 

Ubisoft kill games with hand holding tutorials are remove any challange as they are probably afraid it will hurt sales. being the greedy X they are.

Far Cry 3 was about the closest thing to an actual game they have produced recently.

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Both games look amazing and will obviously be buying both.
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[QUOTE="EYE-OF-HORUS999"]

Watch Dogs looks like another generic Ubisoft open world game. After AC3 I lost huge amount of confidences in Ubisoft.  That's just my opinion. The only thing I see cool about Watch dogs is the hacking. That's badass.

 

How do you know MGS won't have a small city? Doesn't Afghanistan have cities? 

Ben-Buja

I agree about Watch Dogs, it looks like it will be another of those Ubisoft open world games. Nice graphics, but filled with copy pasted stuff everywhere and not much freedom compared to GTA. We don't even know if you can climb any building in Watch Dogs, if it will have freeroam multiplayer, if there are helicopters or planes...

 

Agreed. Open world games is NOT Ubisofts strong point. Watchdogs is not going to have as much content as GTA V. I know MGS 5 is not going to have as much content as GTA 5, but I fill for some reason that MGS 5 going to open us something new to open world games. I also feel the map of MGS 5 is going to be much bigger. And it takes place in Afghanistan during the cold war. How badass is that???

 

 

 

@faizan_faizan

 

Yeah I forgot about MCLA. I even heard you will be able to put bulletproof tires and rollcages on your car!!!

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#94 uninspiredcup
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Grand Theft Auto isn't much of an open world game either. It's basically a sandbox envroment full of really linear missions.

Arma's a proper sandbox game. Eve Online e.t.c...

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#95 AD216
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[QUOTE="faizan_faizan"]Not surprised. MGSV looked like a turd in front of GTA V. GTA V is going to be the GOTY, GOTG, GOTD, and the GOAT. 10/10 :cool:uninspiredcup

 

True that. Same old same old. Quiet, deprived of a top. Grow up. Not 13 anymore.

man i'm hyped 4 that game and i stopped playing gta games a while ago.
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#96 stereointegrity
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Gta5 is the reason I won't be selling my ps3
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#97 AD216
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Gta5 is the reason I won't be selling my ps3stereointegrity
lmao i just told my girl the same thing earlier. i wish it was coming on next gen consoles
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[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

The amount of quality that we saw in that GTA 5 trailer was miles above anything we've ever seen a game do previously. Rockstar just proved that you don't need massive amounts of power to make stellar games.

GTA 5 will be the best game of this generation. Simple as that. It will put almost all next gen games to shame.

parkurtommo

A hardcore PC gamer saying that a (currently) console exclusive will be the best game of the generation? :shock:

well...isn't that how it always ends up? consoles always have the most significant games of every generation.

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#99 lazerface216
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Gta5 is the reason I won't be selling my ps3stereointegrity
that's the only reason lol? so...you've played every single game you wanted to play this gen? doubt it. what a dumb thing to do.

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[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

The amount of quality that we saw in that GTA 5 trailer was miles above anything we've ever seen a game do previously. Rockstar just proved that you don't need massive amounts of power to make stellar games.

GTA 5 will be the best game of this generation. Simple as that. It will put almost all next gen games to shame.

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YES THIS I AGREE WHOLEHEARTEDLY

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