"Sony won't invest heavily in Playstation 4"

http://www.industrygamers.com/news/sony-wont-make-massive-investment-in-ps4/

This is very disappointing if true

http://www.industrygamers.com/news/sony-wont-make-massive-investment-in-ps4/

This is very disappointing if true

hockeyruler12

Between the Ngp specs, psn outage, and now this...

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http://www.industrygamers.com/news/sony-wont-make-massive-investment-in-ps4/

This is very disappointing if true

Jynxzor

The way I understood it was that they are not going to make it a $599 machine that has stuff in it that you dont really need (but is nice). I thought most people would be happy about this :P.

The way I understood it was that they are not going to make it a $599 machine that has stuff in it that you dont really need (but is nice). I thought most people would be happy about this :P.

NaveedLife

This doesn't mean they will make the weakest system. Sony is all about pride and excellence and only the best, they always try to have the best tech products out there. See their other products. This just means they won't bother with facilities trying to make another so called "The Cell" chip all over again. This proved wasteful to them.

I'm just gonna assume that they aren't gonna design a whole new CPU architecture AND a whole new disc format.

I don't want them investing on a bundle of hardware and peripherals anyways. Just give us a powerful next gen system that works like now (but powerful enough to be next gen) and I'm good. I'm fine with the current controller design anyways.

I take it that they'll go with less specialized hardware and use Nvidia/Intel/ATI components rather than completely custom built things. This is similar to what the Xbox did this gen.

I don't want them investing on a bundle of hardware and peripherals anyways. Just give us a powerful next gen system that works like now (but powerful enough to be next gen) and I'm good. I'm fine with the current controller design anyways.

SPYDER0416

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I don't want them investing on a bundle of hardware and peripherals anyways. Just give us a powerful next gen system that works like now (but powerful enough to be next gen) and I'm good. I'm fine with the current controller design anyways.

Inconsistancy

[QUOTE="Inconsistancy"][QUOTE="SPYDER0416"]

I don't want them investing on a bundle of hardware and peripherals anyways. Just give us a powerful next gen system that works like now (but powerful enough to be next gen) and I'm good. I'm fine with the current controller design anyways.

hockeyruler12

It was the best controller when it was introduced, by miles though.

[QUOTE="hockeyruler12"][QUOTE="Inconsistancy"] They won't change it. It's been that way since PS1 days. Analog will stay the same (I'm personally not a fan of it either). The ergonomics could be much better though. Those damn triggers make my hands hurt.Inconsistancy

Better than this number:hockeyruler12

I hope they don't change the design. I think its better than the 360 controller in every way. The only controller better than it is Classic Controller Pro IMO

Between the Ngp specs, psn outage, and now this...

tccavey2

I know its almost like the world is ending right??.....right??.....no...no its ok ...really.

[QUOTE="hockeyruler12"][QUOTE="Inconsistancy"] I think the controller could use a redesign, not a fan of the analog sticks' position and it's not as overall comfy as the xbox one...Inconsistancy

It was the best controller when it was introduced, by miles though.

It wouldn't be too hard to make a few alterations. Just fix up the triggers to be more like the 360 and make the analog sticks concave for more comfort, but maintain the same comfortable shape and design. I think it could do with adding a few buttons, so as to allow more complexity and control schemes in games, but thats just me and it wouldn't really be used for multiplats.

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Between the Ngp specs, psn outage, and now this...

VanDammFan

I know its almost like the world is ending right??.....right??.....no...no its ok ...really.

ya know I was already disappointed the rapture didn't happen.. don't put this on me too. /sarcasm

[QUOTE="Inconsistancy"][QUOTE="hockeyruler12"][QUOTE="Inconsistancy"] They won't change it. It's been that way since PS1 days. Analog will stay the same (I'm personally not a fan of it either). The ergonomics could be much better though. Those damn triggers make my hands hurt.hockeyruler12

Saying they won't invest as heavily means little in terms of how powerful the hardware is. They invested heavily in the Cell, and in Blu-ray, but the system could be very powerful without another set of new tech investments this time around.

So you used it then? you used the batarang controller and have every method of critiquing it? *you didn't but im making a point here*

WilliamRLBaker

If this is true i won't be getting a playstation 4, i want the best of the best when it comes to gaming. I'll hate to do it but ill go back to xbox

If this is true i won't be getting a playstation 4, i want the best of the best when it comes to gaming. I'll hate to do it but ill go back to xbox

mojosodopee

[QUOTE="hockeyruler12"]

http://www.industrygamers.com/news/sony-wont-make-massive-investment-in-ps4/

This is very disappointing if true

Jynxzor

I'd be happy with a faster blu ray drive and having all my controllers compatible with the new system.

I don't want them investing on a bundle of hardware and peripherals anyways. Just give us a powerful next gen system that works like now (but powerful enough to be next gen) and I'm good. I'm fine with the current controller design anyways.

SPYDER0416

maybe they'll go with cloud gaming this time, doesn't cloud gaming can get the best of gameplay & graphics out there without a graphic card or expensive hardware?

All they really need to do is buy some mid range pc components such as athlon 2 x4 radeon 5770 and 4gb ram and they would have something that would be a big steep forward. Investing big bucks in parts just for a console really makes no sense. mid range pc components would give you a really powerful system when there is only one set of hardware to design for. Than system could be had for under $400 and I'm sure if they built in bulk it would be cheaper.imprezawrx500

This means no R&D cost, so it will be a hardware power jump and possibly some new media features with a stronger online or they might look at Cafe/xbox3 and copy what they do so that Sony can save some resources that would otherwise go to research.

In other words nothing new.

maybe they'll go with cloud gaming this time, doesn't cloud gaming can get the best of gameplay & graphics out there without a graphic card or expensive hardware?

mojosodopee

All they really need to do is buy some mid range pc components such as athlon 2 x4 radeon 5770 and 4gb ram and they would have something that would be a big steep forward. Investing big bucks in parts just for a console really makes no sense. mid range pc components would give you a really powerful system when there is only one set of hardware to design for. Than system could be had for under $400 and I'm sure if they built in bulk it would be cheaper.imprezawrx500

Especially since they're not releasing this year, or even next(most likely) I'd say 2013.

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maybe they'll go with cloud gaming this time, doesn't cloud gaming can get the best of gameplay & graphics out there without a graphic card or expensive hardware?

Inconsistancy

All they really need to do is buy some mid range pc components such as athlon 2 x4 radeon 5770 and 4gb ram and they would have something that would be a big steep forward. Investing big bucks in parts just for a console really makes no sense. mid range pc components would give you a really powerful system when there is only one set of hardware to design for. Than system could be had for under $400 and I'm sure if they built in bulk it would be cheaper.imprezawrx500

Especially since they're not releasing this year, or even next(most likely) I'd say 2013.

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]So you used it then? you used the batarang controller and have every method of critiquing it? *you didn't but im making a point here*

Inconsistancy

Analogs should be like the xbox' imo.

um...you must not be looking at the same controller....
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2b/Sixaxis_ps3_controller.jpg

http://img.hexus.net/v2/gaming/screenshots/ps3boomerang1.jpg

Obviously you aren't or you refuse to see it.
Dpad is offset at an angle following the left hand hold, the face buttons are set at an angle following the right handheld, the analog sticks are further down and further apart, the L1, R1, L2, R2 are all further up on the controller so the tips of your fingers are hitting them.
It is pretty obvious that the original concept controller was very much changed from the original Dual shock design and its sad they didn't use it it looked to be far more ergonomic then the dualshock design.
One of the chief problems with the analog sticks on the dualshock is they are too close together forcing you to stretch your thumbs out to them instead of your thumbs resting on them naturally.

TC it means they will NOT bloat it with useless features but work on things that count. in this case it;s better because of pricing. soapandbubbles

The thing is, Sony never needed to have the most powerful hardware to win the market share from its competition. They needed the sales (helped by 1st-party games), that brought in the games from third-party devs which in turn made it the platform of games, not unlike the PS2. They didn't see that for some reason. Instead of spending millions in Cell design and production, had they come out with a cheaper PS3 in a more timely fashion accompanied by multiple triple A games(software is where they need to invest), it would have put them in first place. themyth01

The way I understood it was that they are not going to make it a $599 machine that has stuff in it that you dont really need (but is nice). I thought most people would be happy about this :P.

NaveedLife

[QUOTE="themyth01"]The thing is, Sony never needed to have the most powerful hardware to win the market share from its competition. They needed the sales (helped by 1st-party games), that brought in the games from third-party devs which in turn made it the platform of games, not unlike the PS2. They didn't see that for some reason. Instead of spending millions in Cell design and production, had they come out with a cheaper PS3 in a more timely fashion accompanied by multiple triple A games(software is where they need to invest), it would have put them in first place. WilliamRLBaker

[QUOTE="themyth01"]The thing is, Sony never needed to have the most powerful hardware to win the market share from its competition. They needed the sales (helped by 1st-party games), that brought in the games from third-party devs which in turn made it the platform of games, not unlike the PS2. They didn't see that for some reason. Instead of spending millions in Cell design and production, had they come out with a cheaper PS3 in a more timely fashion accompanied by multiple triple A games(software is where they need to invest), it would have put them in first place. WilliamRLBaker

I'm just gonna assume that they aren't gonna design a whole new CPU architecture AND a whole new disc format.

ChubbyGuy40

Last I heard 'bout that, they just said that they weren't going to buy production facilities for garbage like the cell again -.-, not like they're going down the wii route..Inconsistancy

"garbage like the cell"????????????

I don't even know where to begin:roll:

Well I guess I could begin with tons of devs who have had nothing but praise for the "garbage" you speak of...