"Sony won't invest heavily in Playstation 4"

"garbage like the cell"????????????

I don't even know where to begin:roll:

Well I guess I could begin with tons of devs who have had nothing but praise for the "garbage" you speak of...

mztazmz

Are those devs first party?

It took three of Nvidia's best card to run the Samaritan demo. I wouldn't expect consoles to run that anytime soon without costing an arm and a leg. Plus, the good thing about consoles is the amount of optimization they allow the developers. If current consoles can put out the kind of games we're seeing with the dated hardware they got now I'd imagine the 5770 would be able to keep us impressed for at least a few years. MrSelf-Destruct

[QUOTE="Inconsistancy"]Last I heard 'bout that, they just said that they weren't going to buy production facilities for garbage like the cell again -.-, not like they're going down the wii route..mztazmz

"garbage like the cell"????????????

I don't even know where to begin:roll:

Well I guess I could begin with tons of devs who have had nothing but praise for the "garbage" you speak of...

Fine by me. The days of graphics and console power need to take a step back and make way for what truly matters. Gameplay.

360's hardware is crapjohnlennon28

360 and PS3 are nearly identical in performance. :|

[QUOTE="johnlennon28"]360's hardware is crapwaltefmoney

360 and PS3 are nearly identical in performance. :|

Also, (I know I've said this a million times 'bout the 360...) on release, it had the best single gpu on the market, so it really wasn't crap at all.

[QUOTE="SPYDER0416"]

I don't want them investing on a bundle of hardware and peripherals anyways. Just give us a powerful next gen system that works like now (but powerful enough to be next gen) and I'm good. I'm fine with the current controller design anyways.

campzor

That might just mean they wont go with a different cpu architecture and they might as well go with a decent 4/8core x86 CPU. The only downside to that would be backward compatibility but other than that i think it would be better to go x86adamosmaki

Sony should look at this gen´s Microsoft. Theydevelopped an equally powerfull console with half the resourses and hype. Just invest a bit more and make is reliable.

Sony should look at this gen´s Microsoft. Theydevelopped an equally powerfull console with half the resourses and hype. Just invest a bit more and make is reliable.

PAL360

I'd suggest the same thing, but my 360 has took a **** 5 times now and I'd hate to see Sony go that route. I'd much rather see them try to make their next console Nitnendo-quality. That stuff is indestructable I tell ya!

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

Sony should look at this gen´s Microsoft. Theydevelopped an equally powerfull console with half the resourses and hype. Just invest a bit more and make is reliable.

ChubbyGuy40

I'd suggest the same thing, but my 360 has took a **** 5 times now and I'd hate to see Sony go that route. I'd much rather see them try to make their next console Nitnendo-quality. That stuff is indestructable I tell ya!

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

Sony should look at this gen´s Microsoft. Theydevelopped an equally powerfull console with half the resourses and hype. Just invest a bit more and make is reliable.

ChubbyGuy40

I'd suggest the same thing, but my 360 has took a **** 5 times now and I'd hate to see Sony go that route. I'd much rather see them try to make their next console Nitnendo-quality. That stuff is indestructable I tell ya!

Well, then they should do a 50/50.

I like new consoles to be at least 4 times more powerfull than previous ones :P

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

Sony should look at this gen´s Microsoft. Theydevelopped an equally powerfull console with half the resourses and hype. Just invest a bit more and make is reliable.

PAL360

I'd suggest the same thing, but my 360 has took a **** 5 times now and I'd hate to see Sony go that route. I'd much rather see them try to make their next console Nitnendo-quality. That stuff is indestructable I tell ya!

Well, then they should do a 50/50.

I like new consoles to be at least 4 times more powerfull than previous ones :P

[QUOTE="mojosodopee"]

If this is true i won't be getting a playstation 4, i want the best of the best when it comes to gaming. I'll hate to do it but ill go back to xbox

Inconsistancy

Won't invest heavily as in they are not going to help make another format like black-beam disks.LOXO7

If anything, Sony may wind up going the Wii route in terms of power & graphics the next time around.

[QUOTE="Jynxzor"][QUOTE="hockeyruler12"]

http://www.industrygamers.com/news/sony-wont-make-massive-investment-in-ps4/

This is very disappointing if true

hockeyruler12

[QUOTE="Inconsistancy"][QUOTE="mojosodopee"]

If this is true i won't be getting a playstation 4, i want the best of the best when it comes to gaming. I'll hate to do it but ill go back to xbox

LucidJubilation

This is good, maybe I will be able to buy their console! Im not being sarcastic either. I am poor and dont have a job yet (hopefully I get hired in the upcoming week or so).

Nintendo is making a console barely more powerful than the current ones, Microsoft will most likely build a console around kinect and Sony realised that console business is not that profitable after all. Is this the beginning of the end for console gaming as we know it? Good thing pc gaming will always be here for everyone.SamiRDuran

But the specs havent been officially announced or confirmed by Nintendo:|

This is good, maybe I will be able to buy their console! Im not being sarcastic either. I am poor anddont have a job yet (hopefully I get hired in the upcoming week or so).

Gamingclone

I'm just gonna assume that they aren't gonna design a whole new CPU architecture AND a whole new disc format.

ChubbyGuy40

leave it to msoft to just put out another crappy pc in a small box and call it the next "xbox"

leave it to msoft to just put out another crappy pc in a small box and call it the next "xbox"

dxmcat

My specs of PS3:

GPU: Imagination Technologies Rogue Power VR 6, SGX6RMP8 ,

256bit UMA 4Gb GDDR5 ram, 132 GB/s Bandwidth at 800 Mhrz

8 core GPU, 8x210GFlops=1680GFlops,

8x5=40 Billions per second visible pixel fillrate (Forward rendered), 8x13=104 Billions per second visible pixel fillrate (Deferred Render)

Peak Polygon rate: 8x350= 2800 million polygons per second ( In game with all effects only 700 Million polygons per second and 22.33 Millions polygons per frame if 30 frames per second**)

** Thats about 12x times the poly count of Uncharted 2.

OpenGL and DirectX and can do all new effects DX11+ if coded.

TDP is 15 watt per core***= 120 watt in 40nm but when ps4 arrives at 20nm it will get sliced to 60watt for gpu. *** Power VR 6 Rogue specs

CPU:

IBM 7 derative 6 core ( two core disabled) and cpu is ``out of order`` meaning each core is many many times faster than cell PPE.

3.4 Ghrz x 6

TDP: 90watt in 22nm **** ****IBM power 7 specs: 240 watt tdp for 8 core version 3.4 Ghrz at 45nm

And system is max 200 watt total

And offcourse a faster Blueray drive and 500GB HDD

This doesn't mean they will make the weakest system. Sony is all about pride and excellence and only the best, they always try to have the best tech products out there. See their other products. This just means they won't bother with facilities trying to make another so called "The Cell" chip all over again. This proved wasteful to them.

Blazerdt47

Basically this ^

Sony isnt going to spend tons of cash on R&D, they'll go a more standard route, decent vid card, cpu, etc. But no new disc format or "DA CELL 2" BS.

Keep it simple and keep it strong, is probably what they're aiming at.

[QUOTE="Gamingclone"]

This is good, maybe I will be able to buy their console! Im not being sarcastic either. I am poor anddont have a job yet (hopefully I get hired in the upcoming week or so).

Inconsistancy

Just sounds like they're not as likely to make it more out of more valuable parts than it's sale price and not push a new tech with it, says nothing about final price, that can still be high.

Uh thanks, though I already knew the meaning of Invest. Besides, you cant invest in something if you dont have the money.

Cheap hardware? I sure hope their launch batch of consoles last more than 3 years this time. YLOD and RROD, I've suffered them both multiple times.

If anything, Sony may wind up going the Wii route in terms of power & graphics the next time around.

garland51

http://www.industrygamers.com/news/sony-wont-make-massive-investment-in-ps4/

This is very disappointing if true

hockeyruler12

lower then 600 dollars confirmed?

Not surprising. Sony invests a lot in the PS3 and people decide to buy the console that breaks, that charges for online and that has overpriced accesories which makes it end up costing more than the PS3. Investing is not worth it when people buy based on hype. Better invest $500 million hyping a gimmick like Kinect and be done with it.kuraimen

Did people read the source material?

They basically said that they will never invest into hardware like they did with the PS3. Seems like the reasonable conclusion to me. Beyond that, there is no need for any conjecture, as they really didn't leave anything out there to make such leaps.

who can blame them after getting schooled this gen the way they were.

So,it isn't going to be equipped with hardware a satellite needs to function properly?

This doesn't mean they will make the weakest system. Sony is all about pride and excellence and only the best, they always try to have the best tech products out there. See their other products. This just means they won't bother with facilities trying to make another so called "The Cell" chip all over again. This proved wasteful to them.

Blazerdt47

You either started gaming this generation or you pretend the PS1 and PS2 werent underpowered compared to the competition :P

Sony should just buy standard PCparts and then unify the gamepad and motion control with the Move Shock. It won't be anything new but if it is refined and the best at what it does it will succeed.