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#1 deactivated-5f4694ac412a8
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My, oh my... This is easily the most racist game I've ever heard of it. It's calewsled "Ethnic Cleansing." The sequel is "White Law." Here's a link to the wikipedia article on it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_Cleansing_(video_game)

Some excerpts for the lazy:

"In the game, the protagonist (the player can choose either a skinhead or a Klansman) runs through a ghetto killing black people and Latinos, before descending into a subway system to kill Jews. Finally he reaches the "Jewish Control Center", where Ariel Sharon, former Prime Minister of Israel, is directing plans for world domination. The player must kill Sharon to win the game."

"In what was perhaps a deliberate attempt to create controversy, the game was released on Martin Luther King, Jr. Day 2002."

"Also, while the game's box and adverts claimed "realistic negro sounds recorded on the spot with REAL ******s", these turned out to be ape and monkey shouts."

The sequel was released in June 2003.

Wow... I'm not racist, by the way. I just thought that this was... crazy. Do you guys think developers have the right to make these kinds of games? If someone made a game where you got to play as the Nazi in the Halocaust, and you basically could make the Jews' lives a living hell, would you accept that? Would you think that it's okay to relase in 2008? Freedom and speech and all, but is there an end to it?

Edit: I apologize if this offended anyone. Please note that I find this game to be a disgrace to humanity and such.

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#2 sireclaborn
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i heard about this on the history channel
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#3 alexmurray
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Its gone must have been a fake

what console would allow that

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#4 Dreams-Visions
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they can make whatever they want.

whether the people buy it or not will tell you a lot about where we are in the world.

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#5 sireclaborn
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it just something racist people made to recruit people and they also have the right to do this. i mean a black person if they wanted to could make a game called kill whitey. but why stoop to their level
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#6 Saturos3091
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Yeah, I'm not sure what kind of people would create that kind of game. I heard it was some radical group (Neo-Nazi's?) and the game was made to support their idealogy. It was a PC only game and I'm fairly sure it sold pretty poorly.
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#7 rockguy92
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i heard about this on the history channelsireclaborn

Me too. It was on "Gangland."

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#8 sireclaborn
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Its gone must have been a fake

what console would allow that

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its a Internet game if any console maker released this they should kiss everything they worked on goodbye

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#9 deactivated-5f4694ac412a8
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Its gone must have been a fake

what console would allow that

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PC did... I don't think Nintendo, Microsoft, or Sony would allow that on their consoles, though. That would give them a horrible image.

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#10 WilliamRLBaker
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its real, i've played it its not a good game or bad game its mediocre.
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its real, i've played it its not a good game or bad game its mediocre.WilliamRLBaker

Is the gameplay actually not totally horrible? Is it an FPS or what?

Also, how'd you play it? And where?

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#12 alexmurray
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games like that don't deserve to exist
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#13 deactivated-5f4694ac412a8
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games like that don't deserve to existalexmurray

I don't think games like these should be banned, though. I was scared to say it before, but since many people in the poll agree with me, I think this game has a right to exist. It's freedom of speech. If we take away that just because we don't like, we are limiting it. It may promote racism, but I doubt non-racist people would get hold of this, anyway.

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#14 Blue-Sky
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As much as I dislike this, they have to the right to and I support that right.
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#15 diped
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Whats wrong with a ww2 game where your a Nazi? That would be a huge breath of fresh air in the stale genre that is ww2 shooters. Assuming thye made it properly, you would be able to convey tons of emotion in the game. I acually think that is a great idea for a game.

Whats makes killing jews any worse than killing nazi's? Aparently certain peoples lives are worth more than others. Who would have guessed!
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I saw this awhile ago. They basically used the game as a recruitment tool for their "cause". Yeah it's offensive but if you look at it as just a game, it's basically a Doom knock-off except with crappier graphics, and an overall lack of depth. Consoles would never get behind this or any racially based game because it would hurt the bottom line of any system that carried it.

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#17 sireclaborn
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i don't support this and i believe this should not exist but the law says they have a right. but it still doesn't make it right if the tables were turned "they" would be pissed
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#18 Mercenary848
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That thing has been out for sometime now. There isn't anything we could really do.
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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]its real, i've played it its not a good game or bad game its mediocre.DeathScape666

Is the gameplay actually not totally horrible? Is it an FPS or what?

Also, how'd you play it? And where?

its a simplistic FPS and you can find an youtube video to see how it plays.

The gameplay is basic and you basically just run around shooting blacks..ect

Whats wrong with a ww2 game where your a Nazi? That would be a huge breath of fresh air in the stale genre that is ww2 shooters. Assuming thye made it properly, you would be able to convey tons of emotion in the game. I acually think that is a great idea for a game.

Whats makes killing jews any worse than killing nazi's? Aparently certain peoples lives are worth more than others. Who would have guessed!diped

Because people dont understand that not all german soldiers were nazi's and not all nazi's believed exactly as the mass did, and not all nazi soldiers were evil and took part in killing jews. its the same attitude that since hitler did so much wrong that we should ignore what he did right including bringing germany from the brink of destruction and millions upon millions dieing from hunger and pretty much funding and or asking his scientests to create tech that we pretty much should be thankful in this day and age.

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#20 sargentbotk
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I mean, I believe in freedom of speech, but in games, there should be limits...

I mean, I wouldn't mind a game where you play as a Nazi protagonist, but there can be set limits in the game where you won't be able to torture jewish people, but just be involved in the war. There could be a good story throughout the game as well where the Nazi protagonist meets his end.

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Whats wrong with a ww2 game where your a Nazi? That would be a huge breath of fresh air in the stale genre that is ww2 shooters. Assuming thye made it properly, you would be able to convey tons of emotion in the game. I acually think that is a great idea for a game.

Whats makes killing jews any worse than killing nazi's? Aparently certain peoples lives are worth more than others. Who would have guessed!diped

nazi=bad and people think there bad. the world nazi has a bad name image and history

killing innocent jews or people =very bad thats just the way the world thinks. you f-up in the past future generations will have to take the fallout

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#22 0rin
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I went with the first option. They (developers) should be able to make anything they want to.

games like that don't deserve to existalexmurray


Now.. this is a touchy moral subject, so I can see where you're coming from. But think of it from this perspective as well: If we "the people" put a ban/restriction on what kind of games you can make, how is that helping the industry grow? You think if they said "no racist games", they would stop there? hell no. then it would be "No games that involve the killing of innocents" then, "no killing", and eventually they would just eliminate all blood, guns, and violence all together.

Thats the way the system works. Give them an inch, they take a mile. Freedom of expression, art, and speech are the things this country thrives on. Besides, its not like these things are ever EVER going to be on the mass market, or on consoles. The only way to get them is to actively seek them out, and in order to do that, you'd prettymuch have to be at least somewhat interested in that kind of lifestile.

Whilst I absolutely don't agree with that kind of lifestile, let them make whatever games they want to. Ofcourse, I don't expect everyone to agree with me, but really.. think about the big picture here...

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#23 sireclaborn
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if this was on console then we would have a problem and i would not support the company that allowed it on their console
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#24 WilliamRLBaker
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freedom of speech is a responsibility it should extend to all people regardless of faith, opinion or creed your not foreced to buy this game you choose too as well your not forced to be around people like this.
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#25 Mercenary848
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Yes with technology people have found all kinds of ways to spread their agenda.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEdtCdP7cpw&feature=related

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#26 ZenesisX
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freedom of speech is nice but some things (like this game) should have there limits. Its a clear insult
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#27 Dreams-Visions
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well anyway, just don't buy it.
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Whats wrong with a ww2 game where your a Nazi? That would be a huge breath of fresh air in the stale genre that is ww2 shooters. Assuming thye made it properly, you would be able to convey tons of emotion in the game. I acually think that is a great idea for a game.

Whats makes killing jews any worse than killing nazi's? Aparently certain peoples lives are worth more than others. Who would have guessed!diped

Do you understand the difference between war and genocide? There's your answer.

I doubt anyone would have a problem with a German soldier (who may or may not be a member of the Nazi party) as a protagonist as long as he's fighting on the front (i.e. not torturing people in concentration camps).

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#29 FFXI-Blk-Mage
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Yes, they should absolutely be allowed to make it.

And just for the record, I am of Sephardic Jewish decent, and my girlfriend is asian:P

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#30 Im_single
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I don't care what they make, freedom of expression, speech whatever, doesnt change the fact hey are racist scum though.
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in GTA San ANdreas its ok but in Resident Evil 5 it is not...
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[QUOTE="diped"]Whats wrong with a ww2 game where your a Nazi? That would be a huge breath of fresh air in the stale genre that is ww2 shooters. Assuming thye made it properly, you would be able to convey tons of emotion in the game. I acually think that is a great idea for a game.

Whats makes killing jews any worse than killing nazi's? Aparently certain peoples lives are worth more than others. Who would have guessed!sireclaborn

nazi=bad and people think there bad. the world nazi has a bad name image and history

killing innocent jews or people =very bad thats just the way the world thinks. you f-up in the past future generations will have to take the fallout

America nuked Japan killing well over 500,000 people. How about the Soviet Union ? Well Stalin was declaring war on most of Eastern Europe during that time killing innocent people as well. But teh British !!!11!! They bombed Berlin killing innocent people as well. The French...well they...gave up within a year so meh.. People get to play as those factions in WW2 shooters but they don't get to play as Nazi's because they also kill innocent people. Where is the logic in that ?

Btw if you think Nazi's are bad what they did was nothing compared to what Stalin and the rest of the Soviet Union did.

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#33 sireclaborn
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[QUOTE="sireclaborn"]

[QUOTE="diped"]Whats wrong with a ww2 game where your a Nazi? That would be a huge breath of fresh air in the stale genre that is ww2 shooters. Assuming thye made it properly, you would be able to convey tons of emotion in the game. I acually think that is a great idea for a game.

Whats makes killing jews any worse than killing nazi's? Aparently certain peoples lives are worth more than others. Who would have guessed!kage_53

nazi=bad and people think there bad. the world nazi has a bad name image and history

killing innocent jews or people =very bad thats just the way the world thinks. you f-up in the past future generations will have to take the fallout

America nuked Japan killing well over 500,000 people. How about the Soviet Union ? Well Stalin was declaring war on most of Eastern Europe during that time killing innocent people as well. But teh British !!!11!! They bombed Berlin killing innocent people as well. The French...well they...gave up within a year so meh.. People get to play as those factions in WW2 shooters but they don't get to play as Nazi's because they also kill innocent people. Where is the logic in that ?

Btw if you think Nazi's are bad what they did was nothing compared to what Stalin and the rest of the Soviet Union did.

its hard to explan. killing some races is ok but killing others is bad it sounds weird but thats the way the world is

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#35 PlagueMyGames
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i Wonder if this will be on XBL
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[QUOTE="kage_53"][QUOTE="sireclaborn"]

[QUOTE="diped"]Whats wrong with a ww2 game where your a Nazi? That would be a huge breath of fresh air in the stale genre that is ww2 shooters. Assuming thye made it properly, you would be able to convey tons of emotion in the game. I acually think that is a great idea for a game.

Whats makes killing jews any worse than killing nazi's? Aparently certain peoples lives are worth more than others. Who would have guessed!sireclaborn

nazi=bad and people think there bad. the world nazi has a bad name image and history

killing innocent jews or people =very bad thats just the way the world thinks. you f-up in the past future generations will have to take the fallout

America nuked Japan killing well over 500,000 people. How about the Soviet Union ? Well Stalin was declaring war on most of Eastern Europe during that time killing innocent people as well. But teh British !!!11!! They bombed Berlin killing innocent people as well. The French...well they...gave up within a year so meh.. People get to play as those factions in WW2 shooters but they don't get to play as Nazi's because they also kill innocent people. Where is the logic in that ?

Btw if you think Nazi's are bad what they did was nothing compared to what Stalin and the rest of the Soviet Union did.

its hard to explan. killing some races is ok but killing others is bad it sounds weird but thats the way the world is

There is no logic in that. If anyone thinks like that I would classify those people as hypocrites and racist themselves. You can't have it both ways.
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#37 krunkfu2
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my friend would die for this game

to make it even worse though that same exact friend is training to be a cop

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#38 GrindingAxe
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in GTA San ANdreas its ok but in Resident Evil 5 it is not...supermechakirby

Very, very few people have problems with RE5. A few blacks complain about its content, then everyone on the internet goes crazy and act as if there is this huge outrage. Seriously, go to any forum and look up those threads. Dozens of pages and everyone agrees with each other (that RE5 isn't racist).

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#39 GrindingAxe
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my friend would die for this game

to make it even worse though that same exact friend is training to be a cop

krunkfu2

sounds about right

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#40 krunkfu2
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[QUOTE="krunkfu2"]

my friend would die for this game

to make it even worse though that same exact friend is training to be a cop

GrindingAxe

sounds about right

unfortunately

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#41 Richard7666
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[QUOTE="supermechakirby"]in GTA San ANdreas its ok but in Resident Evil 5 it is not...GrindingAxe

Very, very few people have problems with RE5. A few blacks complain about its content, then everyone on the internet goes crazy and act as if there is this huge outrage. Seriously, go to any forum and look up those threads. Dozens of pages and everyone agrees with each other (that RE5 isn't racist).

Exactly. Only idiots, whom may I suggest are racist, or at least racialist, themselves have issues with RE5. It's effectively like saying "you can kill people of any other ethnicity/race, but not blacks".

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#42 sargentbotk
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in GTA San ANdreas its ok but in Resident Evil 5 it is not...supermechakirby

I seriously have no idea why anyone would think RE5 is racist...Seriously.

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They should have the freedom to make whatever they want. People like that exist, turning a blind eye will change nothing. Retail stores also have the freedom to not carry a product, and I don't think a KKK game would end up on Best Buy shelves any time soon.

To each their own, even if you don't agree. Until it infringes upon me in some tangible way, who am I to interfere?

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#44 killerfist
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they have the right to make such crap

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#45 wiidog
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Nobody has the right to make such garbage! If you can get arrested for saying you wanna kill the president or get in trouble for saying the f word on tv then this should be banned. Freedom of speech my butt crack. Freedom to not be a racist piece of donkey crap.
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#46 neogeo419
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Nobody has the right to make such garbage! If you can get arrested for saying you wanna kill the president or get in trouble for saying the f word on tv then this should be banned. Freedom of speech my butt crack. Freedom to not be a racist piece of donkey crap.wiidog
Then where does that leave other games like the GTA series, GoW, GeoW, DN, etc. You put a ban on one thing it won't just stop at that. Orin hit the nail on the head.
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#47 wiidog
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[QUOTE="wiidog"]Nobody has the right to make such garbage! If you can get arrested for saying you wanna kill the president or get in trouble for saying the f word on tv then this should be banned. Freedom of speech my butt crack. Freedom to not be a racist piece of donkey crap.neogeo419
Then where does that leave other games like the GTA series, GoW, GeoW, DN, etc. You put a ban on one thing it won't just stop at that. Orin hit the nail on the head.

GTA is totally differnt.It doesnt singly out by race. Everyone is fair game.

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#48 neogeo419
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[QUOTE="neogeo419"][QUOTE="wiidog"]Nobody has the right to make such garbage! If you can get arrested for saying you wanna kill the president or get in trouble for saying the f word on tv then this should be banned. Freedom of speech my butt crack. Freedom to not be a racist piece of donkey crap.wiidog

Then where does that leave other games like the GTA series, GoW, GeoW, DN, etc. You put a ban on one thing it won't just stop at that. Orin hit the nail on the head.

GTA is totally differnt.It doesnt singly out by race. Everyone is fair game.

My point totally went over your head dude. You start telling devs what they can, and cannot do in games, it will snowball into something no gamer wants to see.
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#49 sakuragi007
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So they should be no limits. Ok what about making a game where you run a concentration camp killing jews in the most effecient way,Would you allow that? What about a game where you are a terrorist and must blow out Us buildings full of civilians in a holy crusade, or a game where you are a sexual predator, waiting in dark corners to rape young girls, sorry but you are kidding yourselves if you think they can be no limit. This game is racist propaganda, and atleast here in spain that is against the law.
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So they should be no limits. Ok what about making a game where you run a concentration camp killing jews in the most effecient way,Would you allow that? What about a game where you are a terrorist and must blow out Us buildings full of civilians in a holy crusade, or a game where you are a sexual predator, waiting in dark corners to rape young girls, sorry but you are kidding yourselves if you think they can be no limit. This game is racist propaganda, and atleast here in spain that is against the law.sakuragi007

What about the people that find blood, gore, and three way sex offensive? Someone could complain that the God of War three ways are disrespectful to their Religion.

Yup, those are okay, in my mind.