R2 or Geow2. Which improves more over the original game?

[QUOTE="WhenTheTwoFace"][QUOTE="Al3x_n90"]

Imho, R2 takes this one, it looks nothing like R1 tbh :P

Gears2 is improved but doesn't look like much (except for the new story and graphics of course) If you look at R2, 60 player MP? that's crazy.Also it feels like a new game :P

dark-warmachine

60 players means nothing. See, Resistance had 40 players online, and it still got its ass kicked by an 8 player online game.

but why....... was it because of the shiny? I think the graphics over-shadow the true slow paced multiplayer experience. I'm glad gears 2 will have more people on screen in multiplayer so it won't be boring like the first shotgun-fest multiplayer known as gears 1.

...that curb stomped REsistance." there, I filled.

[QUOTE="Kratos-PS3"][QUOTE="WhenTheTwoFace"][QUOTE="killzowned24"][QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="killzowned24"]

Horde is nothing but co-op survive.

Any PS3 owner can download the Ninja Gaiden Sigma demo and do the same thing wave after wave just not co-op.

PS_John

whats you're point?

its gears 1.5 and in no way compares to Resistance2:)

It way better than Resistance 1.5. As magazine that has played have said "Resistance 2's graphics are better, and there are imporvments, but that doesn't say much", I loled. But keep crying, though.

LOL then won't u name the "magazine" that said that. You=epic fail.

Probably from the Official Xbox Magazine

LOL!!!!

[QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="killzowned24"]

Horde is nothing but co-op survive.

Any PS3 owner can download the Ninja Gaiden Sigma demo and do the same thing wave after wave just not co-op.

killzowned24

whats you're point?

its gears 1.5 and in no way compares to Resistance2:)

:lol:Resistance got an 8.6. Gears got a 9.6.

Gears>Resistance

LMFAO Resistance FAIL of Man

[QUOTE="killzowned24"][QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="killzowned24"]

Horde is nothing but co-op survive.

Any PS3 owner can download the Ninja Gaiden Sigma demo and do the same thing wave after wave just not co-op.

BudsMcGreen

whats you're point?

its gears 1.5 and in no way compares to Resistance2:)

:lol:Resistance got an 8.6. Gears got a 9.6.

Gears>Resistance

LMFAO Resistance FAIL of Man

the original resistance got docked points for no online co-op, the lack of devlopment in character story, and an uninspired visual style (mostly due to the fact that it was a launch title)..

Resistance 2 is improving on all these things.. 8 player co-op, a much more fleshed out story, and much improved visuals are just a few of the improvements.. this is not too mention the loads of other additions being made and listed by the TC.. on the other hand, even though Gears 2 is going to be awesome, it still doesnt bring much new to the table over the original and is likely to just stick to what is already working.. not much wrong with that..

this is the reason for the R2 hype and the reason why your ideal that directly comparing the orignals somehow directly indicates the outcome for the sequels is fundamentally wrong..

the core gameplay in gears is way more fun than resistance, the universe and characters are far more interesting as well. people misjudge gears 2's improvements because they only look at graphics but miss all the details.

-400 tweaks to cover

-12-15 hour campaign from gears 1's 6-8 hours

-new vehicular sections

-new gameplay mechanics: portable cover, new executions

-better framerate

-new weapons

-new characters and enemies

-achievement tracking

-more color and varied environments

-100's of enemies on screen, far larger monsters

-better lighting, physics, destructable environments, shadows

-far larger vistas

-much better story telling and animations

-7 multiplayer modes

-Horde

-photosharing

-party system

-completely overhauled online system, fixed all the complaints and exploits from the first

-matchmaking

gears 2 wins

mephisto_11

[QUOTE="Krigon"][QUOTE="mephisto_11"][QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"][QUOTE="mephisto_11"]

the core gameplay in gears is way more fun than resistance, the universe and characters are far more interesting as well. people misjudge gears 2's improvements because they only look at graphics but miss all the details.

mephisto_11

I realize you're a fanboy and all, but have you really gone as far as saying that Gears2 improves more on gears1 than R2 does to R1? Ladies and gentlemen, we fanboyism has now officially reached new heights and mephisto_11 is leading the way!

brilliant rebuttal. why don't you explain how r2 improved more. 60 players? 8 player coop? whoopdedoo. it looking more like a fact sheet than actual improvements in r2. how do we know r2's 60 player online is even an improvement? as far as i know the 60 player online is just 8v8 battles anyway

How do you know the list you made is an improvement?

R2 has almost all of those improvements (the ones on your list) as well and more. The stuff you added are basically the required improvements for a sequel of any game.

you wouldn't know because you haven't played gears.

the online in gears 1 some gameplay and balancing issues. they've all been fixed and on top of that many new game modes and a party system have been added.horde looks like a brilliant addition going by hands on previews. like wileycoyote pointed out there are several interesting additions to gameplay mechanics such as destructable cover, portable cover, using grenades on the environment to set traps, being able to crawl away to safety, things that weren't imaginable in the gears universe such as riding brumaks, flying reavers etc. not to mention things like improved story, improved cover system that enhance the overall experience. The new online modes in gears are also much more interesting than anything we've heard about in resistance (coop deathmatch, horde, meatflag)

On the other hand R2 just sounds like a fact sheet, 60 player this, 8 player that yadiyadiyada. those don't significantly alter the gameplay. the first resistance had 40 player online which was a lot anyways. the core gameplay is hard to change in a shooter so it will play much like the first: shoot this, shoot that.

That's what I got out of that statement.

Both have made quite a lot of improvements. But I think if we were to compare the two, I think Resistance 2 has made more improvements. The original feels almost last gen in a lot of ways, but was still very good game and definitely a great launch title. But with everything they are doing for Resistance 2, it's just amazing how far they are going with the improvements.

For me, Gears 2 feels like it is making a lot of improvements, but when I look at it and compare it to Gears 1, Gears 1 already felt like a next gen game, so Gears 2 to me feels more like Gears 1.5. But I love both franchises and can't wait to play both of them.

I seriously think it's equal really. I played gears for the third time recently with a friend and i really could see how it's aged. They added ALOT it seems: new weapons, new enemies, new gameplay mechanics, more diverse sequences, horde mode, 5v5.can't wait for gears 2!

On the other hand Resistance 2 has a more interesting and diverse multiplayer, more new and amazing weapons, what seems like some epic battles and great coop.

I'll be enjoying them both :D

[QUOTE="killzowned24"][QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="killzowned24"]

Horde is nothing but co-op survive.

Any PS3 owner can download the Ninja Gaiden Sigma demo and do the same thing wave after wave just not co-op.

BudsMcGreen

whats you're point?

its gears 1.5 and in no way compares to Resistance2:)

:lol:Resistance got an 8.6. Gears got a 9.6.

Gears>Resistance

LMFAO Resistance FAIL of Man

and how does that determine the future scores of R2 and Gears 2? Thats rite you=epic fail.

Resistance 2

The scope of the game is huge, large enviromnents, 60 player online, more immersive, heavily updated graphics, separate multiplayer campaign.

Its much better and really is good enough to compete with gears 2, not in sales but in quality which is what counts.

there is going to be a lot of owned cows come review time. mtradr43

my thoughts exactly

[QUOTE="BudsMcGreen"][QUOTE="killzowned24"][QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="killzowned24"]

Horde is nothing but co-op survive.

Any PS3 owner can download the Ninja Gaiden Sigma demo and do the same thing wave after wave just not co-op.

Kratos-PS3

whats you're point?

its gears 1.5 and in no way compares to Resistance2:)

:lol:Resistance got an 8.6. Gears got a 9.6.

Gears>Resistance

LMFAO Resistance FAIL of Man

and how does that determine the future scores of R2 and Gears 2? Thats rite you=epic fail.

At least he has a point. You can "Well, Gears got 9.6 and GOTY, which means the 2nd one HAS A GREAT chance at being good and scoring Very high, whilst RE 2's prequel was nowhere near original Gears", you can almost predict the scores by looking back at the originals (doesn't mean history repeats itself, though), but the guy that said Gears 2 doesn't compare to RE 2 IS AN EPIC FAIL.

[QUOTE="Kratos-PS3"][QUOTE="BudsMcGreen"][QUOTE="killzowned24"][QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="killzowned24"]

Horde is nothing but co-op survive.

Any PS3 owner can download the Ninja Gaiden Sigma demo and do the same thing wave after wave just not co-op.

WhenTheTwoFace

whats you're point?

its gears 1.5 and in no way compares to Resistance2:)

:lol:Resistance got an 8.6. Gears got a 9.6.

Gears>Resistance

LMFAO Resistance FAIL of Man

and how does that determine the future scores of R2 and Gears 2? Thats rite you=epic fail.

At least he has a point. You can "Well, Gears got 9.6 and GOTY, which means the 2nd one HAS A GREAT chance at being good and scoring Very high, whilst RE 2's prequel was nowhere near original Gears", you can almost predict the scores by looking back at the originals (doesn't mean history repeats itself, though), but the guy that said Gears 2 doesn't compare to RE 2 IS AN EPIC FAIL.

True that. But look, just because the first got a great score doesn't automatically make the 2nd get an amazing score. A perfect example would be Mercanaries (8.8 ) and its sequel (5.0). Im NOT saying Gears 2 will suck. I think it will get an awesome score. Im just not overly confident like yourself to believe that it will without a doubt get a really high score like the first one.

there is going to be a lot of owned lemmings come review time. mtradr43

fixed

[QUOTE="WhenTheTwoFace"][QUOTE="Kratos-PS3"][QUOTE="BudsMcGreen"][QUOTE="killzowned24"][QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="killzowned24"]

Horde is nothing but co-op survive.

Any PS3 owner can download the Ninja Gaiden Sigma demo and do the same thing wave after wave just not co-op.

Kratos-PS3

whats you're point?

its gears 1.5 and in no way compares to Resistance2:)

:lol:Resistance got an 8.6. Gears got a 9.6.

Gears>Resistance

LMFAO Resistance FAIL of Man

and how does that determine the future scores of R2 and Gears 2? Thats rite you=epic fail.

At least he has a point. You can "Well, Gears got 9.6 and GOTY, which means the 2nd one HAS A GREAT chance at being good and scoring Very high, whilst RE 2's prequel was nowhere near original Gears", you can almost predict the scores by looking back at the originals (doesn't mean history repeats itself, though), but the guy that said Gears 2 doesn't compare to RE 2 IS AN EPIC FAIL.

True that. But look, just because the first got a great score doesn't automatically make the 2nd get an amazing score. A perfect example would be Mercanaries (8.8 ) and its sequel (5.0). Im NOT saying Gears 2 will suck. I think it will get an awesome score. Im just not overly confident like yourself to believe that it will without a doubt get a really high score like the first one.

I am aware of that. I just believe it will get a great score because I loved the first one, and the previews rock. Furthermore, I think he wrote "Resistance got an 8.6. Gears got a 9.6.

Gears>Resistance

LMFAO Resistance FAIL of Man" because he got irriated on account of the other guy's post.

All of the improvements mentioned don't change the fact that resistance is still a generic shooter.Stringerboy

Exactly.

Anybody who doesn't say Resistance 2 is a fanboy. It improves on virtually everything on a much larger scale.

Gears 2 adds 2 people to multiplayer, and a flamethrower.

angry_fork

- More execution moves

- Several more weapons

- New enemies

- Horde mode

- Human-shields

- And more...

That said - Resistance 2 still adds way more on it's original game, including its graphical presentation.

Allright so Resistance 2 has a whole new Co-op mode/campain, much larger scale, 60 player MP and improved visuals while Gears2 has improved visuals, 5vs5 in MP, Horde mode, more engaging storyline and longer gameplay (correct me if ive missed some features from either game)

Which in your opinion has made a greater improvement over the original and is deserving of a higher score than its previous installment?

kmadon

I think R2

[QUOTE="Stringerboy"]All of the improvements mentioned don't change the fact that resistance is still a generic shooter.BudsMcGreen

Exactly.

[QUOTE="Kratos-PS3"]

True that. But look, just because the first got a great score doesn't automatically make the 2nd get an amazing score. A perfect example would be Mercanaries (8.8 ) and its sequel (5.0). Im NOT saying Gears 2 will suck. I think it will get an awesome score. Im just not overly confident like yourself to believe that it will without a doubt get a really high score like the first one.

WhenTheTwoFace

I am aware of that. I just believe it will get a great score because I loved the first one, and the previews rock. Furthermore, I think he wrote "Resistance got an 8.6. Gears got a 9.6.

Gears>Resistance

LMFAO Resistance FAIL of Man" because he got irriated on account of the other guy's post.

I feel the same way. Loved the first game it was awesome. You're right, I guess I shouldn't have gotten worked up about the other guys post then.

CLEARY R2 only fanboys would say G2

The reason is that GeoW was already good and all and there isnt that much the game can improve on but it does improve dont get me wrong.

Resistance 1 however wasnt a complete package like GeoW and with that being said R2 can improve in almost every way, gameplay, graphics, story-telling, online Co op, and any more because the first one lacked all of these features.

CLEARY R2 only fanboys would say G2

The reason is that GeoW was already good and all and there isnt that much the game can improve on but it does improve dont get me wrong.

Resistance 1 however wasnt a complete package like GeoW and with that being said R2 can improve in almost every way, gameplay, graphics, story-telling, online Co op, and any more because the first one lacked all of these features.

DarkNeji14

"GeoW was already good and all and there isnt that much the game can improve on"

Of course it can! Or are you saying that Gears of War is nearly perfect? I assume you mean within two years..?

funny how cows say there isn't much to improve on the original gears and go on to bash it and call it overrated in so many threadsmephisto_11

funny how you bash everything playstation when you havent even played the game.

[QUOTE="mephisto_11"]funny how cows say there isn't much to improve on the original gears and go on to bash it and call it overrated in so many threadsnjean777

funny how you bash everything playstation when you havent even played the game.

funny how you assume i havent played the games, which i have

[QUOTE="njean777"]

[QUOTE="mephisto_11"]funny how cows say there isn't much to improve on the original gears and go on to bash it and call it overrated in so many threadsmephisto_11

funny how you bash everything playstation when you havent even played the game.

funny how you assume i havent played the games, which i have

But you haven't :?

[QUOTE="mtradr43"]there is going to be a lot of owned fanboys come review time. Kratos-PS3

fixed

Next time fix it right.

Edit: Come to think about it, this entire holiday season is going to be ownage to the fanboys.

[QUOTE="mtradr43"]there is going to be a lot of owned lemmings come review time. mephisto_11

my thoughts exactly

It seems to me both Gears of War 2 and Resistance 2 have improved greatly from the first installaments. They both look AAA material. IMO, Gears of War 2 looks a little better in gameplay, graphics and other stuff; but that's becaue I liked Gears 1 ofver Resistance.

Whoever owns a PS3 and 360, will have two great...or even amazing games to look foward to.