Racism and **** in gaming: Hate speech corrodes online video game

Bout time, I hated this on css and I know its on Live tho I haven't herd anything on PSN as of yet...but still I am glad that this hit major sources and is hopefully one day gonna be handled...thankfully

http://videogames.yahoo.com/events/plugged-in/racism-and-homophobia-in-gaming-hate-speech-corrodes-online-video-game-experiences/1396765

oh it's on psn as well. I've heard some awful comments while playing resistance.

There already is a solution. The mute function. In no way possible should racism or any type of vulgar language be expelled more than it already is. Freedom of speech does not diminish just because it's on a video game or another person doesn't "appreciate" it.

Parental controls are fine for younger ones, but trying to block out all racism/vulgarity is ridiculous. Not everyone playing these games are twelve year olds, which apparently the author is only focusing on.

Yeah I usually didnt care when I was younger, but I as I grew I became more aware and less tolerant of this **** and **** that. I mean its okay if they say it on an object/stuff that relates nothing to other users, but when they start directing at people and what they are, it just boils my blood a little bit of course I never take it seriously because is not real life, but some of those kids get quiet rowdy T.T

Bout time, I hated this on css and I know its on Live tho I haven't herd anything on PSN as of yet...but still I am glad that this hit major sources and is hopefully one day gonna be handled...thankfully

http://videogames.yahoo.com/events/plugged-in/racism-and-homophobia-in-gaming-hate-speech-corrodes-online-video-game-experiences/1396765

Santesyu

its all the internet gangstas who think they are all hard.

the racists who are too scared to confront black,hispanic,etc, face to face.

the screaming 13yr olds who scream on the mic because their parents are too lazy to care what their kids are doing online.

oh it's on psn as well. I've heard some awful comments while playing resistance.

vitalogy23

I play Battlefield: Bad Company a lot online on my PS3 and never hear anything racist or homophobic. Haven't heard any of that on Red Faction: Guerrilla either. Perhaps that will change when I get more online games.

While I am not a fan of hate talk during a game, I think people should grow some tougher skin. If you can not handle that stuff over PSN, PC, or 360, you sure won't make it in the real world.millerlight89

[QUOTE="millerlight89"]While I am not a fan of hate talk during a game, I think people should grow some tougher skin. If you can not handle that stuff over PSN, PC, or 360, you sure won't make it in the real world.6matt6

i play most of the times in european servers or networks. I have never seen some one bothering an other because of skin colour or religion, only if some ones nation plays an important soccer game, people start to spam and harass in the lobbys.

I'm surprised that developers as well as Microsoft/Sony didn't see this coming. Mixing absolute free speech and teenagers will always have that very same result.

Don't get offended by idiots spewing hate speech, problem solved.AAllxxjjnn

so far haven't heard anything racist on PSN, however, the one thing i hate the most is little nasally kids talking on their mikes while im trying to defend a flag in bad company 1...too bad theres no mute

[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]Don't get offended by idiots spewing hate speech, problem solved.Deathtransit

[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]Don't get offended by idiots spewing hate speech, problem solved.Deathtransit

so far haven't heard anything racist on PSN, however, the one thing i hate the most is little nasally kids talking on their mikes while im trying to defend a flag in bad company 1...too bad theres no mute

mlbslugger86

Mute or8 way party chat are yourfreinds

In this case, blame the PLAYERS....NOT the games.

There is really no solution to this problem, imo.

Morons will be morons. Just as long as these turds HIDE behind their PSN IDs and Gamertags, there will always be wannabe tough guys, racist and homophobic rants online.

And it's one of the reasons I refuse to use mics during online gaming. Hell, I RARELY play online. In fact I despise MP almost completely. Long live SP campaigns! If its any indication, I'm playing BFBC2 Single Player in my 3rd run on hard, and loving it.

Nor do I have Twitter or Facebook.

[QUOTE="6matt6"][QUOTE="millerlight89"]While I am not a fan of hate talk during a game, I think people should grow some tougher skin. If you can not handle that stuff over PSN, PC, or 360, you sure won't make it in the real world.millerlight89

I love when they talk smack right before I own them. People just need to stop being to sensitive. Kindergartners already lost dodge ball due to it being an elimination game.

Am I the only one who doesn't really hear much of this at all? I mean I have heard it over XBL and PSN but not very much. Maybe I am just more selective on who I play online with or its just luck..lol

People have to thin of skin now. Some need to lighten up and just laugh at it all or at least brush it off and ignore it. Most of my online gaming was with WoW and in battlegrounds, Wintergrasp, and in the cities it can get pretty brutal. I always thought it was funny and the times I did not I just ignored it.

Racism is so stupid i mean whats the point of making fun of people because of who they are? were all the same

*ESRB Notice: Game Experience May Change During Online Play

im guessing nobody actually takes this seriously....

Racism is so stupid i mean whats the point of making fun of people because of who they are? were all the same

JordanizPro

Racism is so stupid i mean whats the point of making fun of people because of who they are? were all the same

JordanizPro

Ugh, did someone make a game where you can kill a black person again?

Ugh, did someone make a game where you can kill a black person again?

windsquid9000

Bout time, I hated this on css and I know its on Live tho I haven't herd anything on PSN as of yet...but still I am glad that this hit major sources and is hopefully one day gonna be handled...thankfully

http://videogames.yahoo.com/events/plugged-in/racism-and-homophobia-in-gaming-hate-speech-corrodes-online-video-game-experiences/1396765

Santesyu

this is complete garbage... EVERYTHING must be regulated now-a-days... can't we at least have freedom of speech when playing online!?!? better to get out your anger with words than with killing other people.

The thing people are mistaking is that freedom of speech doesn't apply in this realm. PSN, XBL, and servers for PC games can all make their own rules and enforce them in the manner they wish. Because its a private domain.

We don't have freedom of speech here on GS because in their TOU they have stated what is allowed and not allowed. I do wish that people who are being stupid did get banned. It'd make them think twice about their behavior online. Hell countless people got banned back in the CSS server I used to play on. And they had really strict rules and some I didn't agree with but it was a great place to play and I'd take that server 10 times out of 10 over some of the other servers where you can say the N-word or call someone a ***.

Thankfully there is a mute button and for now is an acceptable solution but I wouldn't be opposed to banning people for their behavior online. Its no different than if they were glitching or hacking, if they are being a dbag and making the game un-enjoyable for others than their privilege for fun should end.

[QUOTE="Deathtransit"][QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]Don't get offended by idiots spewing hate speech, problem solved.millerlight89

You seem to think you have rights on a pay-for service. You don't. You have just as much 'right to free speech' using those companies online services as you do here at GameSpot. Now, try to fill a post here at GS with trash-talk and porn and see how far your rights extend.

[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="Deathtransit"] Teach children how to act civil, problem solved. How about teaching people STANDARDS by banning them from one of the few things they care about. Good sig though!br0kenrabbit

You seem to think you have rights on a pay-for service. You don't. You have just as much 'right to free speech' using those companies online services as you do here at GameSpot. Now, try to fill a post here at GS with trash-talk and porn and see how far your rights extend.

Have to agree with you on this one. MS, Sony, etc. own and provide the service to people, so they're (partly) responsible for setting a TOU policy, enforcing it and holding its users accountable for their actions. In fact, I probably wouldn't be too far off in saying that most of the main offenders online have no sense of the word "accountability", and have probably never been held accountable for anything in thier lives.

i play most of the times in european servers or networks. I have never seen some one bothering an other because of skin colour or religion, only if some ones nation plays an important soccer game, people start to spam and harass in the lobbys.

SLI_Gamer

its on every console. as long as you can hide without someone finding out where you live. your gonna have big mouth bad asses that will say anything to pee you off

The best solution I think is to use the 'only communicate with friends' option on Xbox live. Because this trash talk puts me off too.

The report thing doesn't work, I got reported for use of language, just because I was winning. I don't use the mic.

The only thing I can think of is having software which recognises these words and automatically reports people.

And the people that talk about freedom of speech can take their crap elsewhere, Xbox live is not the medium for this, it just sucks out the enjoyment for other gamers.

I've noticed freedom of speech is usually brought up conveniently, you have the right to say what you want and I respect that, but then I have the right to be provoked. Thats what I hate about human rights groups sometimes, they support aspects of humanity while condoning the suppression of human nature. If someone talked to you like that in the street, it would be difficult to hold your self back. So what do they want us to do on live when someone is shouting out racial slurs, try to have a debate on why I shouldn't have to go back to my own country?... with some 15 year old.

And I don't know about others, I don't like to speak for people, but I don't wanna hear a speech on anything serious while i'm playing.

I don't see much in that article that is helpful, but it's good they are exploring new systems to deal with this.

There already is a solution. The mute function. In no way possible should racism or any type of vulgar language be expelled more than it already is. Freedom of speech does not diminish just because it's on a video game or another person doesn't "appreciate" it.

Parental controls are fine for younger ones, but trying to block out all racism/vulgarity is ridiculous. Not everyone playing these games are twelve year olds, which apparently the author is only focusing on.

Crayzorder

Bout time, I hated this on css and I know its on Live tho I haven't herd anything on PSN as of yet...but still I am glad that this hit major sources and is hopefully one day gonna be handled...thankfully

http://videogames.yahoo.com/events/plugged-in/racism-and-homophobia-in-gaming-hate-speech-corrodes-online-video-game-experiences/1396765

Santesyu

To anybody who says they have a right to free speech on Xbox Live here is a direct quote for the Xbox Live Terms of Use that anyone must agree to before they can use the service.

In addition, your use of the Service is subject to your compliance with the Code of Conduct (www.xbox.com/en-us/legal/codeofconduct.htm and its successors). You agree that we may also discontinue your access to the Service if you do any of the following while connected to the Service:

• Defame, abuse, harass, stalk, threaten, or otherwise violate the legal rights (such as rights of privacy and publicity) of others;
• Publish, distribute, or disseminate any inappropriate, profane, defamatory, infringing, obscene, indecent, or unlawful content, topic, name, material, file, or information;
• Publish, distribute, or disseminate any content, topic, name, material, file, or information that incites, advocates, promotes, depicts, constitutes, or expresses child pornography, profanity, hatred, bigotry, racism, illegal drug use, gratuitous or graphic violence, or criminal or fraudulent activity;
• Create a Gamertag , avatar or use text in other profile fields that may offend other members. This includes comments that look, sound like, stand for, hint at, abbreviate, or insinuate or relate to any of the following: profane words/phrases, topics or content of a sexual nature, hate speech (including but not limited to racial, ethnic, or religious slurs), illegal drugs/controlled substances, or illegal activities;