Rage Vs. Killzone 3 : A Clash of Epic Proportions!

I tmight go to Rage, although I would still like to see the game running on PS3.

We need to see more of both. So far in long demonstration form that was the only level I've seen of Rage, and the developer said it was the most like their previous titles (read: corridor shooter).

All console games should either be 60fps initially, or have an option a la Bioshock to ditch better textures for smoother framerate. I'm tired of getting dizzy or nauseous when I turn too fast playing games because developers get too big for their britches and make games that can't keep up.

vs :| I'm sorry but Killzone 3 looks like ****. I'll make some gifs of Rage, there's so many awesome moments. WhenCicadasCry

wow, you need to get your eyes checked to not even notice that that killzone shot is being stretched horizontally

hmm, i wonder why, ill give you 3(d) guesses

on another note, im very interested in knowing who believes that Rage INDOORS looks better than killzone

I love the tehnical aspects of Killzone's amazing image fidelity with MLAA.......but Rage in motion is on a whole different level. In terms of looks, I'm going to have to go with rage. Screenshots doesn't do the game justice.

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I'm sorry but Killzone 3 looks like ****. I'll make some gifs of Rage, there's so many awesome moments. i_am_interested

wow, you need to get your eyes checked to not even notice that that killzone shot is being stretched horizontally

hmm, i wonder why, ill give you 3(d) guesses

on another note, im very interested in knowing who believes that Rage INDOORS looks better than killzone

Look at the IQ on that box on the right. :| The textures, geometry. It looks like ****.

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:| I'm sorry but Killzone 3 looks like ****. I'll make some gifs of Rage, there's so many awesome moments. * -*

Chutebox

lol

Come on, try a little harder.

Am I suppose to be impressed? Rage, Crysis 2 and GeOW 3 all look better. Killzone 3 looks good, but did GG expect no one to surpass Killzone 2 graphically? :?

I think Killzone3 looks better especially during combat but Rage is more open and runs at 60fps. Crysis2 wins since its as good looking as Kz3 and as open as Rage.

i wonder if any of you really saw Rage gameplay ... the game may be open world and runs at 60 fps but did any one see how stiff the gameplay is? how bad the animations are?? no dynamic lights, no destructable environments, no 3D :D....and as i said before Rage doesn't run half of what KZ2 runs.

actually it make me feel that you are being surprised by the numbers and talking about the game than the videos of the actuall gameplay :? .

i wonder if any of you really saw Rage gameplay ... the game may be open world and runs at 60 fps but did any one see how stiff the gameplay is? how bad the animations are?? no dynamic lights, no destructable environments, no 3D :D....and as i said before Rage doesn't run half of what KZ2 runs.

actually it make me feel that you are being surprised by the numbers and talking about the game than the videos of the actuall gameplay :? .

2mrw

It's because Killzone 3 got "teh cell".

Rage by far... looks insane. Characters react realistically to every bullet placed.

Rage by far... looks insane. Characters react realistically to every bullet placed.

markinthedark

KZ3 has destructibility. Rage runs at 60fps, and at this point looks better. Sounds like a reasonable tradeoff.

The impressive thing to me is the KZ2/3 are graphical showcases built from the ground up for PS3, with astronomical dev costs. Yet, their being matched/beaten in gfx quality by a multiplat that had to be optimized for 3 different platforms. Same with Crysis 2. Respect +1 for id and Crytek.

:| I'm sorry but Killzone 3 looks like ****. I'll make some gifs of Rage, there's so many awesome moments. * -*

WhenCicadasCry

...That KZ3 shot is extremely blurry, the reason being is that the image take was from the 3D footage, so unless you have your #D enabled glasses on, its going to look extremely blurry...If anything, KZ3 makes Rage look average at best...

The image is from an early pre-alpha build

And this image is a bullshot of Rage, since it doesnt have any aliasing and it was confirmed 2xMSAA,yet KZ3 looks much better graphically than itYou can see low res objects everywhere, espicially the weapon model and environmental texturing. Theres also a lack of polygon detail in his hand if you look at your character's hand...

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:| I'm sorry but Killzone 3 looks like ****. I'll make some gifs of Rage, there's so many awesome moments. * -*

TehKillzonelova

...That KZ3 shot is extremely blurry, the reason being is that the image take was from the 3D footage, so unless you have your #D enabled glasses on, its going to look extremely blurry...If anything, KZ3 makes Rage look average at best...

The image is from an early pre-alpha build

And this image is a bullshot of Rage, since it doesnt have any aliasing and it was confirmed 2xMSAA,yet KZ3 looks much better graphically than itYou can see low res objects everywhere, espicially the weapon model and environmental texturing. Theres also a lack of polygon detail in his hand if you look at your character's hand...

Rage still looks better. In that screenshot of Killzone 3 I posted, you could see low poly crates everywhere. :|

Honestly Crysis 2>>KZ3>>>>RAGE from what I have seen so far

The art direction that RAGE is going for is a more realistic Borderlands look, while it does have it's own flair, it simply isn't to my tastes. Though I am impressed with the fluidity of 60fps in the gameplay vids, there's not much else that really astounded me visuals wise. I'd prefer the cinematic look of Crysis 2 and KZ3 instead.

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:| I'm sorry but Killzone 3 looks like ****. I'll make some gifs of Rage, there's so many awesome moments. * -*

...That KZ3 shot is extremely blurry, the reason being is that the image take was from the 3D footage, so unless you have your #D enabled glasses on, its going to look extremely blurry...If anything, KZ3 makes Rage look average at best...

The image is from an early pre-alpha build

And this image is a bullshot of Rage, since it doesnt have any aliasing and it was confirmed 2xMSAA,yet KZ3 looks much better graphically than itYou can see low res objects everywhere, espicially the weapon model and environmental texturing. Theres also a lack of polygon detail in his hand if you look at your character's hand...

Rage still looks better. In that screenshot of Killzone 3 I posted, you could see low poly crates everywhere. :|

we're discussing amazing 3 amazing looking games.....

if i had to choose i'd say KZ3 looks best, but Crysis2 & Rage (console versions) wont disappoint when it comes to visuals...

Rage, Killzone 3, Crysis 2. Killzone 3s muddy, low poly texture / geometry isn't going to cut it anymore. What was people expecting from a company that created the abomination that was Killzone 1. You think they're going to be able to stand toe to toe with iD software and Crytek? :lol:

this is such a dumb argument all reviewers were blown away by rage. And you dont have to be a rocket scientist to know that id knows how to build a game engine way better than Guerilla.

you have to be a ps3 fanboy extreme to think killzone 3 is anywhere near as technically impressive.

Rage, Killzone 3, Crysis 2. Killzone 3s muddy, low poly texture / geometry isn't going to cut it anymore. What was people expecting from a company that created the abomination that was Killzone 1. You think they're going to be able to stand toe to toe with iD software and Crytek? :lol:

WhenCicadasCry

this is such a dumb argument all reviewers were blown away by rage. And you dont have to be a rocket scientist to know that id knows how to build a game engine way better than Guerilla.

you have to be a ps3 fanboy extreme to think killzone 3 is anywhere near as technically impressive.

markinthedark

Sony Fanboys are incapable of thinking for themselves. They'll only acknowledge Killzone 3s still awesome but dated compared to Rage / Crysis 2 when reviewers personally state it. :roll:

this is such a dumb argument all reviewers were blown away by rage. And you dont have to be a rocket scientist to know that id knows how to build a game engine way better than Guerilla.

you have to be a ps3 fanboy extreme to think killzone 3 is anywhere near as technically impressive.

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this is such a dumb argument all reviewers were blown away by rage. And you dont have to be a rocket scientist to know that id knows how to build a game engine way better than Guerilla.

you have to be a ps3 fanboy extreme to think killzone 3 is anywhere near as technically impressive.

WhenCicadasCry

Sony Fanboys are incapable of thinking for themselves. They'll only acknowledge Killzone 3s still awesome but dated compared to Rage / Crysis 2 when reviewers personally state it. :roll:

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this is such a dumb argument all reviewers were blown away by rage. And you dont have to be a rocket scientist to know that id knows how to build a game engine way better than Guerilla.

you have to be a ps3 fanboy extreme to think killzone 3 is anywhere near as technically impressive.

TehKillzonelova

Ironically, the only fanboy who's vision is clouded by said fanboyism is you. "Thekillzonelova". Ofcourse you're going to say Killzone 3 looks the best. :|

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this is such a dumb argument all reviewers were blown away by rage. And you dont have to be a rocket scientist to know that id knows how to build a game engine way better than Guerilla.

you have to be a ps3 fanboy extreme to think killzone 3 is anywhere near as technically impressive.

Ironically, the only fanboy who's vision is clouded by said fanboyism is you. "Thekillzonelova". Ofcourse you're going to say Killzone 3 looks the best. :|

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[QUOTE="markinthedark"]

this is such a dumb argument all reviewers were blown away by rage. And you dont have to be a rocket scientist to know that id knows how to build a game engine way better than Guerilla.

you have to be a ps3 fanboy extreme to think killzone 3 is anywhere near as technically impressive.

TehKillzonelova

Sony Fanboys are incapable of thinking for themselves. They'll only acknowledge Killzone 3s still awesome but dated compared to Rage / Crysis 2 when reviewers personally state it. :roll:

The majority of System Wars seems to think Crysis 2 will be the next console graphics king. :roll: Like I said, Killzone 2 /3 looked great until Rage and Crysis 2 was shown. :)

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Sony Fanboys are incapable of thinking for themselves. They'll only acknowledge Killzone 3s still awesome but dated compared to Rage / Crysis 2 when reviewers personally state it. :roll:

WhenCicadasCry

The majority of System Wars seems to think Crysis 2 will be the next console graphics king. :roll: Like I said, Killzone 2 /3 looked great until Rage and Crysis 2 was shown. :)

Reviewers personally state that Crysis 2 has low res textures...Is that what you mean? KZ3's engine is anyhting but out-dated. If it is, then why does it look much better graphically than Rage or Crysis 2?

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The majority of System Wars seems to think Crysis 2 will be the next console graphics king. :roll: Like I said, Killzone 2 /3 looked great until Rage and Crysis 2 was shown. :)

TehKillzonelova

This is somewhat accurate footage of KZ3, and you can clearly see that it looks much better graphically than C2, or Rage

http://www.gamersyde.com/stream_killzone_3_e3_hq_gameplay_1-16070_en.html

http://www.gamersyde.com/stream_killzone_3_e3_hq_gameplay_3-16073_en.html

http://www.gamersyde.com/stream_killzone_3_e3_killzone_3_gameplay-15872_en.html

was crysis 2 shown on a console?

i sort of thought this was a discussion of technical prowess of games running on a console? with the draw distance/fps/textures of rage it simply blows KZ3 away in the technical marvel department.

If we are just talking about what looks good in a still screenshot then you should probably include games like fight night round 4.... but that seems silly.

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Sony Fanboys are incapable of thinking for themselves. They'll only acknowledge Killzone 3s still awesome but dated compared to Rage / Crysis 2 when reviewers personally state it. :roll:

WhenCicadasCry

The majority of System Wars seems to think Crysis 2 will be the next console graphics king. :roll: Like I said, Killzone 2 /3 looked great until Rage and Crysis 2 was shown. :)

http://img14.abload.de/img/gamecomparisonygim.jpg

Crysis 2 owns everything on consoles,even though that KZ3 shot is from 3D so its missing crispness.

here is what i am expecting from the reviewers to say about Rage " low poly count, bad art choices, very stiff animations, no dynamic lighting not destructable envirnoments really will obsecure the tech of this game, the game is running at 60 fps and it's open world withe oen of the finest textures around but for that it sacrificed so much in process"

Almost but not quite.

was crysis 2 shown on a console?

i sort of thought this was a discussion of technical prowess of games running on a console? with the draw distance/fps/textures of rage it simply blows KZ3 away in the technical marvel department.

If we are just talking about what looks good in a still screenshot then you should probably include games like fight night round 4.... but that seems silly.

People seem to forgot that RAGE has TWICE less time to render EVERYTHING from textures and lightning to animation blending and sound in comparison with KZ3,its obviously real technical achievement no matter what tehkillzonovela sayst.

here is what i am expecting from the reviewers to say about Rage " low poly count, bad art choices, very stiff animations, no dynamic lighting not destructable envirnoments really will obsecure the tech of this game, the game is running at 60 fps and it's open world withe oen of the finest textures around but for that it sacrificed so much in process"

Almost but not quite.

2mrw

It has the same destruction as KZ3,SCRIPTED.It does not have stiff animations but other stands correct.

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[QUOTE="TehKillzonelova"] Revieres personally state that Crysis 2 has low res textures...Is that what you mean? KZ3's engine is anyhting but out-dated. If it is, then why does it look much better graphically than Rage or Crysis 2?

The majority of System Wars seems to think Crysis 2 will be the next console graphics king. :roll: Like I said, Killzone 2 /3 looked great until Rage and Crysis 2 was shown. :)

http://img14.abload.de/img/gamecomparisonygim.jpg

Crysis 2 owns everything on consoles,even though that KZ3 shot is from 3D so its missing crispness.

People seem to forgot that RAGE has TWICE less time to render EVERYTHING from textures and lightning to animation blending and sound in comparison with KZ3,its obviously real technical achievement no matter what tehkillzonovela sayst.

Bus-A-Bus

People seem to forgot that RAGE has TWICE less time to render EVERYTHING from textures and lightning to animation blending and sound in comparison with KZ3,its obviously real technical achievement no matter what tehkillzonovela sayst.

Bus-A-Bus

Why are you console gamers even bothering to fight over the second place in graphics? Both the PS3 and Xbox 360 have no hope of matching Crysis' graphical realism, ever.CentricStorm

[QUOTE="CentricStorm"]Why are you console gamers even bothering to fight over the second place in graphics? Both the PS3 and Xbox 360 have no hope of matching Crysis' graphical realism, ever.TehKillzonelova

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People seem to forgot that RAGE has TWICE less time to render EVERYTHING from textures and lightning to animation blending and sound in comparison with KZ3,its obviously real technical achievement no matter what tehkillzonovela sayst.

TehKillzonelova

Since when is GTA IV horrendous looking game???:? You seem to forgot that GTA IV is 2 yrs old game,and it did win ALOT of awards even for its graphics.Anyway,it does so much that many games(including UC2) dont even come close to what GTA IV does in real time.Dynamic lightning and shadowing,hundreds of a.i,great physics,ridiculously good draw distance,dynamic night and day cycles,great animations,amazing water physics,hundreds of light sources in one scene,great weather effects...ALL that in open world game at 720p 2xaa...well atleast on 360 ;)

BTW Crysis 2,DEFINITELY looks better than KZ3,not by much but it does.