Rage Vs. Killzone 3 : A Clash of Epic Proportions!

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#151 i_am_interested
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[QUOTE="i_am_interested"]

[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

Can't be bothered to create gifs, but if you insist... Give me 10 minutes. :)

WhenCicadasCry

good, i look forward to seeing those outdoor exploring gifs that display nothing more than the detailed megatexture landscape, you know where he just stands there outside looking that the amazing texture landscape

dont get me wrong, im a fan of the megatexture system but thats all it is, detailed textures, which also happen look awful upclose which is why tim wilts never stops to look around indoors and instead constantly keeps moving

none of those textures outside are up close

Bleh, all the gifs I make are over 10mb and don't really feature much. :( Just watch the vids. :) I've noticed every seen in Killzone 3 which features tons of stuff going on inscreen at once is scripted, or onrails.

ive seen the vids, im well aware of id tech 5 and its megatexture system yeah, theyre called set pieces, just like when giant buildings in crysis 2 fall down
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#152 WhenCicadasCry
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[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

[QUOTE="i_am_interested"] good, i look forward to seeing those outdoor exploring gifs that display nothing more than the detailed megatexture landscape, you know where he just stands there outside looking that the amazing texture landscape

dont get me wrong, im a fan of the megatexture system but thats all it is, detailed textures, which also happen look awful upclose which is why tim wilts never stops to look around indoors and instead constantly keeps moving

none of those textures outside are up close

i_am_interested

Bleh, all the gifs I make are over 10mb and don't really feature much. :( Just watch the vids. :) I've noticed every seen in Killzone 3 which features tons of stuff going on inscreen at once is scripted, or onrails.

ive seen the vids, im well aware of id tech 5 and its megatexture system yeah, theyre called set pieces, just like when giant buildings in crysis 2 fall down

They're the only impressive scenes. :?

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#153 Chutebox  Online
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[QUOTE="i_am_interested"]

[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

Can't be bothered to create gifs, but if you insist... Give me 10 minutes. :)

WhenCicadasCry

good, i look forward to seeing those outdoor exploring gifs that display nothing more than the detailed megatexture landscape, you know where he just stands there outside looking that the amazing texture landscape

dont get me wrong, im a fan of the megatexture system but thats all it is, detailed textures, which also happen look awful upclose which is why tim wilts never stops to look around indoors and instead constantly keeps moving

none of those textures outside are up close

Bleh, all the gifs I make are over 10mb and don't really feature much. :( Just watch the vids. :) I've noticed every seen in Killzone 3 which features tons of stuff going on inscreen at once is scripted, or onrails.

You seem to make a lot of excuses for a game looking damn good, especially for someone who supposedly doesn't care for console games.
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#154 Chutebox  Online
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[QUOTE="i_am_interested"][QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

Bleh, all the gifs I make are over 10mb and don't really feature much. :( Just watch the vids. :) I've noticed every seen in Killzone 3 which features tons of stuff going on inscreen at once is scripted, or onrails.

WhenCicadasCry

ive seen the vids, im well aware of id tech 5 and its megatexture system yeah, theyre called set pieces, just like when giant buildings in crysis 2 fall down

They're the only impressive scenes. :?

Check the gifs from page 7 near the bottom of the page. Only one of those are scripted and all of them are impressive. But I'm sure you'll pick something nonexistent to complain about.

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#155 WhenCicadasCry
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[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

[QUOTE="i_am_interested"] ive seen the vids, im well aware of id tech 5 and its megatexture system yeah, theyre called set pieces, just like when giant buildings in crysis 2 fall downChutebox

They're the only impressive scenes. :?

Check the gifs from page 7 near the bottom of the page. Only one of those are scripted and all of them are impressive. But I'm sure you'll pick something nonexistent to complain about.

Maybe I have high standards? They look great, but nothing to go crazy about. Rage and Crysis 2 are easily onpar.

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#156 Chutebox  Online
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

They're the only impressive scenes. :?

WhenCicadasCry

Check the gifs from page 7 near the bottom of the page. Only one of those are scripted and all of them are impressive. But I'm sure you'll pick something nonexistent to complain about.

Maybe I have high standards? They look great, but nothing to go crazy about. Rage and Crysis 2 are easily onpar.

On consoles, I disagree.
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#157 WhenCicadasCry
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[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

[QUOTE="Chutebox"] Check the gifs from page 7 near the bottom of the page. Only one of those are scripted and all of them are impressive. But I'm sure you'll pick something nonexistent to complain about.

Chutebox

Maybe I have high standards? They look great, but nothing to go crazy about. Rage and Crysis 2 are easily onpar.

On consoles, I disagree.

SW Disagrees with you.

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#158 Chutebox  Online
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

Maybe I have high standards? They look great, but nothing to go crazy about. Rage and Crysis 2 are easily onpar.

WhenCicadasCry

On consoles, I disagree.

SW Disagrees with you.

They also agree that KZ3 looks better than Rage, so I guess you agree with that too, ya?
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#159 WiiMan21
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Technically Rage is up to Killzone 3, but Killzone 3 looks better visually.

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#160 WhenCicadasCry
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[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

[QUOTE="Chutebox"] On consoles, I disagree.Chutebox

SW Disagrees with you.

They also agree that KZ3 looks better than Rage, so I guess you agree with that too, ya?

Couldn't careless about Rage. :lol: I just want a game on the 360 to look as good as PS3s exclusives for teh lolz. :P

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#161 Chutebox  Online
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

SW Disagrees with you.

WhenCicadasCry

They also agree that KZ3 looks better than Rage, so I guess you agree with that too, ya?

Couldn't careless about Rage. :lol: I just want a game on the 360 to look as good as PS3s exclusives for teh lolz. :P

Well, I don't think we've seen one on par with KZ3...Maybe Ucharted 2, but I don't know. I need to see some real footage of Crysis 2, not the "360" version from e3 lol.

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#162 DarkLink77
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From a technical aspect, what id has done with Rage is nothing short of amazing, and obviously the game itself looks fantastic. KZ3 didn't impress me that much, but Crysis 2 did.

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#163 savagetwinkie
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[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]hmm i wonder who wins. Bus-A-Bus

"To put it in an simple & contrite manner, the answer would be [Pulls out Riot Shield ] Rage…"

:D

the funny part is its not a very good writing, he mentions stupid ai because they run at you slashing in rage... well thats what happens when you give ai mainly melee weapons, they aren't going to take cover since they'll just sit there and wait until you come around the corner and shoot them. And the video they posted they talk about procedural ai or something, which means 5 mins of footage probably isn't enough to really talk about the ai yet. I think rage might technically win since its doing to really good things, 60fps with such pretty textures and animations, but i think killzone 3 has the artistic side won,
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#165 JMR09
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Though God of War 3 is not a part of this thread, why is it that most people ignore ign's review where they say, at times, it is "the best-looking game ever" (under the graphics heading at the bottom). Do you think it would be far-fetched to say a game like Killzone 3, if it has a more consistent graphics engine, could be the best-looking game ever? Or will the Crysis series remain the front-runner in terms of graphics?

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#166 PabloEscobar20
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GeoW 3, Rage and Killzone 3 are all a year away and I think they will be the major nominees for Console Graphics King. The footage they showed at E3 for al three was like Pre-Alpha, any one of them can win at this point. I think Rage will be the one though, Killzone 3/GeoW 3 already had their engines built with the second installments and I don't think they will improve that significantly from their predecessors, all Epic/Guerilla can do is just add some more poish and set pieces.

Rage on the other hand seems to be the next step for consoles, the engine is developed by id Software and it can still be improved. I trust id to add more goodies that will push the hardware of 360/PS3 even further. I mean this is the first time we see an open world FPS running at 60 fps that has vehicles, different adapting AI and still manages to pull of graphics that are almost on par with the best out there. All the reviewers/media reporters that saw the game were literally staring at it, the game needs to be seen in motion to be appreciated. And I think everyone will be awed by it next year.

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#167 WhenCicadasCry
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[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

[QUOTE="Chutebox"] They also agree that KZ3 looks better than Rage, so I guess you agree with that too, ya?Chutebox

Couldn't careless about Rage. :lol: I just want a game on the 360 to look as good as PS3s exclusives for teh lolz. :P

Well, I don't think we've seen one on par with KZ3...Maybe Ucharted 2, but I don't know. I need to see some real footage of Crysis 2, not the "360" version from e3 lol.

It was the 360 version.

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#168 PabloEscobar20
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Though God of War 3 is not a part of this thread, why is it that most people ignore ign's review where they say, at times, it is "the best-looking game ever" (under the graphics heading at the bottom). Do you think it would be far-fetched to say a game like Killzone 3, if it has a more consistent graphics engine, could be the best-looking game ever? Or will the Crysis series remain the front-runner in terms of graphics?

JMR09

You know that guy was fired after his God of War 3 review, I guess people didn't agree with him lol.

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#169 gamecubepad
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Both games look top-notch. Anybody saying one is substantially better looking than the other is probably biased.

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#170 vaderhater
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Im sorry but Playstation unlimited???? So a site dedicated to the PS3 is putting a PS3 exclusive against two multiplats and we are suppose to await on some "unbiased" results?:lol: I would be very very suprised if KZ3 does not "win" at that place. Its like a poll here of anything Xbox verses PS3!:lol:

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#171 gamecubepad
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Decided I would throw a quick comparison together that consisted of more than links to a couple videos. This is my first time making anigifs, so sorry if they're not up to standard. Some are 10fps so some hit animations don't show through correctly. *Click pics for 720p. (56k warning!)

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#172 lucky_star
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I know Rage is supposed to be open world, but so far it looks like a boring tube-run. (looking at the vid)

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#173 Bazooka_4ME
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RAGE is starting to remind of Bioshock...

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#174 ultima-flare
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In screenshots I'd say KZ3, but in motion I have to give the nod to Rage cause of 60fps.

edit: dayum at those KZ3 gifs on page 7...might have to change my mind :o

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#175 pstripl3
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this is a joke thread right? of course killzone 3 looks better.
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#176 Esnedon
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Just my 2 cents.

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#177 worknow222
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am i crazy if i say Rage looks better, but halo reach looks better with it's art design and epic skyboxes? how can you do graphical comparisons of each game. each game has ups and downs look at killzone 3 Great gun models, bad textures, rage great textures, bad Gun models, every game has visual up and downs, so why make a comparison i mean reach has the most impressive skyboxes on any sytem( to me) but is there any graphical comparsons with crysis 2 No, play what you believe to look good. and to hell with these comparisons.

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#178 infamousxii
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I say Rage just cause the animation that I have seen so far is dead sexy.
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#179 T-razor1
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For the last time: Killzone 3 looks good but the only thing that wows are the up close gun models, some pretty good lighting in some spots and animations. Beyond that everything else is VERY iffy. What am I talking about? I'm talking about the environment. Yes it looks good if your eyes cannot fight the trance of being fixated on the up close gun models. But if you really look at the environment there are a lot of flaws. It has some flat looking textures, Low poly looking "lego blockish" stuctures/buildings and in general it looks muddy/blurry. Ultimately if you compare screenshots between Crysis 2, Rage and even Gears 3 Killizone3 just looks dirty. All of the other 3 games have a cleaner look to it with higher looking poly structures and just a more polished look.
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#180 Aboogie5
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Umm... we will have to wait till the games come out...

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#181 Mestitia
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People saying clearly Rage clearly didn't read the article or watch the footage. KZ3 is way more impressive, your personal art style taste doesn't change that.

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#182 blackace
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[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]hmm i wonder who wins. Bus-A-Bus

"To put it in an simple & contrite manner, the answer would be [Pulls out Riot Shield ] Rage…"

:D

Well, if it's being done on a PS3 fanboy site, most likely KZ3 would win. On any other real, non-fanboy site, RAGE would win easily.

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People saying clearly Rage clearly didn't read the article or watch the footage. KZ3 is way more impressive, your personal art style taste doesn't change that.

Mestitia


You opinion also doesn't matter. KZ3 looks like KZ2 to me, which looked like Gears 2. Gears 3 looks better then KZ2 and 3 to me.

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#183 Mestitia
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[QUOTE="Bus-A-Bus"]

[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]hmm i wonder who wins. blackace

"To put it in an simple & contrite manner, the answer would be [Pulls out Riot Shield ] Rage…"

:D

Well, if it's being done on a PS3 fanboy site, most likely KZ3 would win. On any other real, non-fanboy site, RAGE would win easily.

How would Rage win easily? Your fanboy is showing, I suggest reading the article and watching the footage. It's pretty non bias, and KZ3 is clealry the more impressive techincal title.
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#184 Mestitia
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[QUOTE="Bus-A-Bus"]

[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]

"To put it in an simple & contrite manner, the answer would be [Pulls out Riot Shield ] Rage…"

:D

blackace

Well, if it's being done on a PS3 fanboy site, most likely KZ3 would win. On any other real, non-fanboy site, RAGE would win easily.

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People saying clearly Rage clearly didn't read the article or watch the footage. KZ3 is way more impressive, your personal art style taste doesn't change that.

Mestitia


You opinion also doesn't matter. KZ3 looks like KZ2 to me, which looked like Gears 2. Gears 3 looks better then KZ2 and 3 to me.

Your opinion matters less cause it's baseless. You should try watching the footage and readin the article... You'd avoid self ownage that way.
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#185 Esnedon
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I'm really going to have to agree with Mestitia and the article here. RAGE looked great, but it didn't feel 'alive' like Killzone 3 and Crysis 2 did. I don't know about you, but the world honestly felt a bit static. Beautiful, but static nonetheless.

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#186 PabloEscobar20
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Killzone 3 got the cell, now if they showed some PS3 footage of Rage, it might actually look better.

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#187 pelvist
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This is a joke thread right? Of course RAGE looks better...

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#188 Mestitia
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This is a joke thread right? Of course RAGE looks better...

pelvist
lol You just self owned yourself, now go read the article and watch the footage.
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#189 BiancaDK
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KZ3 looks significantly better from a purely aesthetic point of view, but it doesn't look like the better game to me.
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#190 T-razor1
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[QUOTE="pelvist"]

This is a joke thread right? Of course RAGE looks better...

Mestitia
lol You just self owned yourself, now go read the article and watch the footage.

Truth be told... KZ2/3 looks very good when the game is in motion and you're actually playing it. Because to be honest the action can get hectic and frenetic almost to a fault. But with that being said, it's easy to overlook the flaws with all the action going on and the nice looking gun models up close. I've seen all the footage and all the footage in the world at this point does nothing to change my overall feeling about this game in the graphics department. There's a lot of "smoke and mirrors" going on with the Killzone games and as a result I just don't understand people thinking that the graphics are beyond this world. Again as I mentioned earlier in this thread there are a lot of flaws in the environment. Does KZ3 look good? Yes. Better than Crysis 2 or Rage? No.
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#191 hypoty
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Maybe it's the id fanboy in me, but I like the visuals of Rage more than KZ3. I can't judge the gameplay, but from previews I'd have to take Rage as well.

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#192 Mestitia
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[QUOTE="Mestitia"][QUOTE="pelvist"]

This is a joke thread right? Of course RAGE looks better...

T-razor1
lol You just self owned yourself, now go read the article and watch the footage.

Truth be told... KZ2/3 looks very good when the game is in motion and you're actually playing it. Because to be honest the action can get hectic and frenetic almost to a fault. But with that being said, it's easy to overlook the flaws with all the action going on and the nice looking gun models up close. I've seen all the footage and all the footage in the world at this point does nothing to change my overall feeling about this game in the graphics department. There's a lot of "smoke and mirrors" going on with the Killzone games and as a result I just don't understand people thinking that the graphics are beyond this world. Again as I mentioned earlier in this thread there are a lot of flaws in the environment. Does KZ3 look good? Yes. Better than Crysis 2 or Rage? No.

I've heard that excuse before and I still don't get it, somehow descrediting a games graphics because it uses smoke and mirrors? That makes NOOOO sense. I don't think you watched the footage either, form what we've seen it's 100% impossible to claim Rage or Crysis looks better then KZ3, theres has been no footage showing that. The footage in that article clearly shows KZ3 being the more impressive techincal title, and it's still really far from release. Unless your talking art style which is whatever...
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#193 Aboogie5
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How can anyone say anything looks better if there pre alpha...

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#194 BiancaDK
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How can anyone say anything looks better if there pre alpha...

Aboogie5

I guess you can if what you say pertains to which game looks better going by their current stages of development?

Seems easy enough to me. :)

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#195 The_RedLion
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Crysis 2 and Rage look better, and they offer larger envioronments. KZ3 looks very nice, but there are more impressive techinical achievements coming.