Rate each system (out of 10)

XBOX 360 - 7.5/10

Positives:

- Best game library currently, with a good looking future

- Game library should be better

AHUGECAT

What?

Xbox 360-10/10

Positves:

• Games: Halo 3, Gears of War, GTA 4and others
• Xbox Live
• Elite
• The only video game console

Negatives:

• Still a little pricey

PS3-6/10

Positives:

• Games: MGS4, GTA 4, and others I guess...

Negatives

• Online service
• Not enough games
• Blu-ray
• the price!

Wii-7/10

I don't know what to put!

DuDisNow

I don't own any but this would be my scores judging from game lineup/value for money etc...

PS3 - 5/10: Too expensive, and not many great games yet but if there is a price drop before Christmas I'd give it 8/10 at least since it has what I think is the best lineup for the holiday season.

360 - 6/10: Bad hardware, some good games though. MS need to keep it up in 2008, I don't know if they will though.

Wii - 5/10: Needs more games right now, and needs a better lineup. Less spinoffs and more main entries in big franchises.

the-very-best

Negatives:

- Primitive controller
- Bad hardware
- Ugly GUI
- Super Kiddy
- Lack of third party support
- Not a diverse library (no sandbox type games, no racing simulators, etc. etc.)
- Already the typical Nintendo game droughts
- Too expensive
- Not only is it expensive but it has tons of hidden costs
- Virtual Console games have no online or leaderboards
- Relies too heavily on PS2/PSP/GameCube ports

AHUGECAT

The Wii's remote is the newest controller, even the Sixaxis of more of an upgrae than the 360 controller.

Bad hardware as in massive defectr rate or as in not as advanced?

The tones are very annoying, but otherwise the GUI is simple and customizable.

Super kiddy? More like Super Appealing. rememebr, it doesn't have the handle anymore.

It doesn't lack as much as the GCN did. Plus you really play Nintendo systems for Nintendo games, since they make their own games and hardware.

The warioware game alone has a more diverse library then the 360's 0_o. But realisticly is does have nearly the same diversity. Just not as much popular games.

It's not expensive and doesn't have lots of expesnive hidden costs, that was just stupid to say it is expensive.

It's VCgames don't have updates the XBLA has, but the VC games are still much more enjoyable. The XBLA needs some good games to go with those french fries.

The only 'ports' it relied on was Zelda:TP, which wasn't a port twchnically because it came out on the Wii first. But ports aside, at least they are worth trying simply to see how the controls are factored in.

There you go, your crappy excuses against the Wii are debunked : )

[QUOTE="DuDisNow"]

Xbox 360-10/10

Positves:

• Games: Halo 3, Gears of War, GTA 4and others
• Xbox Live
• Elite
• The only video game console

Negatives:

• Still a little pricey

PS3-6/10

Positives:

• Games: MGS4, GTA 4, and others I guess...

Negatives

• Online service
• Not enough games
• Blu-ray
• the price!

Wii-7/10

I don't know what to put!

Duckman5

No console will be. Everyone console will have a bad game/flaws.

[QUOTE="goblaa"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"][QUOTE="wok7"]

Crappy negative Wii excuses from the TC.

AHUGECAT

How are they crappy

some were spot on, but the rest were either completly false, redundant, or just opinion....but this topic is about opinion.

yeah it is which is why I only responded to that post lol.

But which ones were false?

- Primitive controller (Please... :lol:)
- Bad hardware (It's not bad, just underpowered)
- Ugly GUI (Depends on your taste)
- Super Kiddy (Can we please stop pulling the kiddy card?)
- Lack of third party support (Last time I checked, third parties were jumping to make games for the Wii)
- Not a diverse library (no sandbox type games, no racing simulators, etc. etc.) (This one is pretty true, but the genres will diversify soon)
- Already the typical Nintendo game droughts (There have been a steady trickle of games for a while)
- Too expensive (This one speaks for itself :lol:)
- Not only is it expensive but it has tons of hidden costs (You don't have to buy most of the extra hardware)
- Virtual Console games have no online or leaderboards (How is that a flaw...?)
- Relies too heavily on PS2/PSP/GameCube ports (There have been alot, but I don't think that it relies on those, so much as Nintendo and Konami's games)

Ps3 - 5

Wii - 6

360 - Big Rigs

BTW

PC-35090965853906798376954.7
Well, the PC rocks. End of story.

PS3 = 7

XBOX360 = 8

WII = 7

How come no one rated the Wii as 8.8/10?

Is it not funny anymore?

How come no one rated the Wii as 8.8/10?

Is it not funny anymore?

wok7

Phailure.

PS3:

Hardware:8/10

Software:6/10

Online Capabilities:5/10

Value:9/10

Overall:7/10

360:

Hardware:9/10

Software:7/10

Online Capabilities:9/10

Value:7/10

Overall:8/10

Wii:

Hardware:5/10

Software:3/10

Online Capabilities:1/10

Value:2/10

Overall:2.75/10

*Note these are all estimates up to right now

PS3:

Hardware:8/10

Software:6/10

Online Capabilities:5/10

Value:9/10

Overall:7/10

360:

Hardware:9/10

Software:7/10

Online Capabilities:9/10

Value:7/10

Overall:8/10

Wii:

Hardware:5/10

Software:3/10

Online Capabilities:1/10

Value:2/10

Overall:2.75/10

*Note these are all estimates up to right now

TOTAL_DEFENSE_0

Why did you rate the PS3's software a 6 and the Wii's software a 3 when the Wii has better games?

To each his own, I guess.

Purely as gaming machines, based on my preferences I would say:

Wii - 9/10

A huge list of games that interest me greatly, VC and a great control scheme.

360 - 7.5/10

A large amount of games that look great, great online (though Im not a big online gamer) and nice graphics.

PS3 - 4/10

...FF13...

360

As a Game Consule

-Best out of the bunch. A close to fair price for a good upgrade. Great online but costs money 9/10

Extras+Quality+Tech

-Horrible system quality, Stop breaking. XBL very nice, good DVD Player, and good Tech 6/10

Games Now and Future

Again the best line up. Pretty much has everything I want and then some with great online play. 10/10

Total....8/10

PS3

As A Game Consule

It fails...1 and a half decent games since Launch. It seems like they have been trying to push bluray more then games. Online looks to be the same as PS2...Some great ones. But most might as well have been made 10years ago with thier online. Not to mention such a steep price. 4/10

Tech+Quality+Extras

Easily 10/10. Great Tech on par with 360. Online is open has potienal, BluRay Extra...And great quality.

Games now and Future

You have pretty much nothing now, hardly anything for this year. And pretty much half of your line up is no better then vaporware or speculation. 3/10. A few bright points though but of it is easily passible.

Total 5/10

Wii

As a Game Consule...i should say Mini game. Nintendo titles look promising. A good stream of games. Cheap easy access...No online 7/10

Tech Quality Extras

...Its getting a 5. VC is definitly great and free online if they ever get started...outside of that...the tech sucks. 5/10

Games now and Future

Nintendo's looks great, a few 3rd party....but whats with the Mini game crap? and online hurts. 5/10

Total 6/10

PC ARE TEH WINNER 10/10

These will probably change later:

Wii

Good:

-Great start with lots of good games, with a variety of games
-Promising future
-Virtual Console
-Great new way to play games
-First party games
-OK 3rd party support, which is going to be getting better now that the 3rd parties have had almost a year since last E3 to -make a game
-free online (when the online games come out)
-cheap price

Bad:

-no online yet (which will change later this month)
-the only truly innovative game right now is a DS port (Trauma Center)
-lots of ports from PS2, which are usually bad
-Right now, the 3rd party support is just OK
-Even though it doesn't matter at all to me, the graphics aren't as great as the PS3 or 360. And the graphics of the games out now don't live up to what the Wii can do (judging on Mario Galaxy)

Score: 8.5

360

-lots of great games
-has gotten a lot of multi-plats from games that were believed to be PS3 exclusive
-is the cheaper of the two power systems (360 and PS3)
-Xbox Live Arcade
-for anybody who has HD-TVs, it can take advantage of that technology
-Xbox Live is supposedly good

Bad:

-noobs have ruined some people's experience with Xbox Live
-Xbox Live is not free (although it is cheap), and those peple like myself who refuse to pay for it due to either theirprinciples (which is why I won't pay for it) or are just plain cheap will be forced to miss out on it
-"T3h 3 rings!1!" :o

Score: 8.4

PS3

Good:

-Has the technology to create amazing graphics, even when compared to the 360
-Has gotten several multi-platform games that were previously believed to be exclusive to the 360
-Free online

Bad

-$600
-Sixaxis is a bad attempt at motion sensing, especially when compared to the Wiimote
-Despite the fact that it has the technology to have great graphics, it probably never will, since it's so hard to program games for. And since the PS3 is selling so poorly, the companies will probably never even try to make great looking games
-lack of good exclusivegames, which means that the price isn't justifyable
-future doesn't look promising

Score: 2.3

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

Negatives:

- Primitive controller
- Bad hardware
- Ugly GUI
- Super Kiddy
- Lack of third party support
- Not a diverse library (no sandbox type games, no racing simulators, etc. etc.)
- Already the typical Nintendo game droughts
- Too expensive
- Not only is it expensive but it has tons of hidden costs
- Virtual Console games have no online or leaderboards
- Relies too heavily on PS2/PSP/GameCube ports

wok7

The Wii's remote is the newest controller, even the Sixaxis of more of an upgrae than the 360 controller.

Bad hardware as in massive defectr rate or as in not as advanced?

The tones are very annoying, but otherwise the GUI is simple and customizable.

Super kiddy? More like Super Appealing. rememebr, it doesn't have the handle anymore.

It doesn't lack as much as the GCN did. Plus you really play Nintendo systems for Nintendo games, since they make their own games and hardware.

The warioware game alone has a more diverse library then the 360's 0_o. But realisticly is does have nearly the same diversity. Just not as much popular games.

It's not expensive and doesn't have lots of expesnive hidden costs, that was just stupid to say it is expensive.

It's VCgames don't have updates the XBLA has, but the VC games are still much more enjoyable. The XBLA needs some good games to go with those french fries.

The only 'ports' it relied on was Zelda:TP, which wasn't a port twchnically because it came out on the Wii first. But ports aside, at least they are worth trying simply to see how the controls are factored in.

There you go, your crappy excuses against the Wii are debunked : )

- But it's still primitive cause it sucks at motion sensing

- Not as advanced

- Yeah it is simple but very ugly

- MySims, enough said

- Nah even the GCN had better support

- It lacks 2 major ones though (GTA type sandbox and racing simulator)

- $250 for a GCN with a motion sensing controller isn't expensive?

- XBLA has tons of good games, but they take effort to make them good instead of just putting them on with no extra features

- Most third party games on the Wii are last-gen ports.

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

XBOX 360 - 7.5/10

Positives:

- Best game library currently, with a good looking future

- Game library should be better

terdoo

What?

It currently has the best game library, but it's been out for a year so it should be even better.

360:

- Obviously, it has the biggest game collection at the moment.

- Has some good online features that you don't have to pay to get (in other words, I'm talking about Live Silver)

- A lot of acclaim about its internet service...

-...Which is the only current-gen consoleonline service that costs.

- I've never experienced 3RLD, but I've heard a lot about it.

Overall: 8

PS3:

- Unless Sony's lying, this may end up the most powerful (tech-wise) system by the end of the gen.

- Stilll has MGS4, FF, Heavenly Sword and the like.

- Hey, free online.

- However, the game list isn't the most satisfying at the moment.

- They even have an unoriginal logo style (Spiderman...)

- Very expensive (the price being forced because of the Blu-Ray)

- "Just waiting" must be annoying for those who have the system (sorry, I don't have the PS3, so this score may be kind of unrealistic)

Overall: 6

Wii:

- Again, free online.

- Wii-mote is interesting.

- Virtual Console is a very good idea (and as a Wii owner, I'm enjoying it)

- Brawl should be great online this fall.

- Um... kinda waiting for an online game.

- As for friend codes, we're not all little kids, Nintendo...

- Devs are still not making good use of the system's potential, and are (intentionally?) mocking it with their games.

- Lackluster power compared to the other two.

Overall: 7

Owning 2 out of those 3 systems at the moment, that's what I think.

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"][QUOTE="goblaa"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"][QUOTE="wok7"]

Crappy negative Wii excuses from the TC.

The_AI

How are they crappy

some were spot on, but the rest were either completly false, redundant, or just opinion....but this topic is about opinion.

yeah it is which is why I only responded to that post lol.

But which ones were false?

- Primitive controller (Please... :lol:)
- Bad hardware (It's not bad, just underpowered)
- Ugly GUI (Depends on your taste)
- Super Kiddy (Can we please stop pulling the kiddy card?)
- Lack of third party support (Last time I checked, third parties were jumping to make games for the Wii)
- Not a diverse library (no sandbox type games, no racing simulators, etc. etc.) (This one is pretty true, but the genres will diversify soon)
- Already the typical Nintendo game droughts (There have been a steady trickle of games for a while)
- Too expensive (This one speaks for itself :lol:)
- Not only is it expensive but it has tons of hidden costs (You don't have to buy most of the extra hardware)
- Virtual Console games have no online or leaderboards (How is that a flaw...?)
- Relies too heavily on PS2/PSP/GameCube ports (There have been alot, but I don't think that it relies on those, so much as Nintendo and Konami's games)

- It is. Not 1:1 movement
- Very very underpowered
- It's ugly
- MySims, need I say more?
- Not their flagship games though.
- yes
- Yeah but not enough
- It is or a GCN with a primitive motion sensing controller
- Yeah you don't but if you want to play VC games or games with nunchuk you do
- Because they're expensive and it'd be cool to play many Nintendo games online
- eh

360- 9

ps3- 7

wii- 5

[QUOTE="wok7"]

Crappy negative Wii excuses from the TC.

AHUGECAT

How are they crappy

They're not backed up by facts, and many of them are wrong.

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"][QUOTE="wok7"]

Crappy negative Wii excuses from the TC.

Optusnet

How are they crappy

They're not backed up by facts, and many of them are wrong.

They're not wrong.

Wii 8/10
It has a pretty good selection of games now and a future that we can't just wait to see more of. Pretty nice accessories like the weather channel but the side applications leave a lot to be desired.

360 9/10
It's been out a year and has a large advantage. It has the best seleciton of games, a good future, and a very nice online system.

PS3 6/10
It's future looks like it has some big hits coming, but it's about as scarce and varried as ps3's current line up is. Many of it's great games are on 360, thus not justifying it's higher price over 360.

I will only rate the consoles I own.

Xbox 360-

Positives:

1. Best games

2. Best online

3.Most comfortable controller

4. No gimmicky motion sensing

5. Wonderful graphics

Negatives:

1. Not so good hardware, which results in red lights of death

2. MS Points are a rip-off

3. Disc tray

My rating: 9/10

Wii-

Positives:

1. Fun when playing multiplayer

2. Great party games that everyone will like

3. Easy controls

4. Virtual Console

5. Miis

Negatives:

1. Motion sensing

2. No DVD player

3. Not a great selection of games

4. Friend codes

5. No online

6. Graphics aren't that amazing

7. The whole"for casual gamers and non-gamers alike" atmosphere about it

My rating: 6.5/10

360 = 9.6

wii = 8.8

ps3 = 8.6

[QUOTE="The_AI"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"][QUOTE="goblaa"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"][QUOTE="wok7"]

Crappy negative Wii excuses from the TC.

AHUGECAT

How are they crappy

some were spot on, but the rest were either completly false, redundant, or just opinion....but this topic is about opinion.

yeah it is which is why I only responded to that post lol.

But which ones were false?

- Primitive controller (Please... :lol:)
- Bad hardware (It's not bad, just underpowered)
- Ugly GUI (Depends on your taste)
- Super Kiddy (Can we please stop pulling the kiddy card?)
- Lack of third party support (Last time I checked, third parties were jumping to make games for the Wii)
- Not a diverse library (no sandbox type games, no racing simulators, etc. etc.) (This one is pretty true, but the genres will diversify soon)
- Already the typical Nintendo game droughts (There have been a steady trickle of games for a while)
- Too expensive (This one speaks for itself :lol:)
- Not only is it expensive but it has tons of hidden costs (You don't have to buy most of the extra hardware)
- Virtual Console games have no online or leaderboards (How is that a flaw...?)
- Relies too heavily on PS2/PSP/GameCube ports (There have been alot, but I don't think that it relies on those, so much as Nintendo and Konami's games)

- It is. Not 1:1 movement
- Very very underpowered
- It's ugly
- MySims, need I say more?
- Not their flagship games though.
- yes
- Yeah but not enough
- It is or a GCN with a primitive motion sensing controller
- Yeah you don't but if you want to play VC games or games with nunchuk you do
- Because they're expensive and it'd be cool to play many Nintendo games online
- eh

- Wii is the most accessible controller. PS3's motion-sensor is incredibly gimmicky and tacked-on, where as the wiimote's motionis implemented much much better.It has pixel-perfect accuracy, and Wii Sports Baseballhas some implementation of 1:!.It's not primaiive - it's simple. Your logic is primitive though.

- Yes, it's underpowered but it's not 'bad'. I fail to see how hardware can be 'bad' unless it's faulty like in some 360's.

- Some games are ugly, some aren't

- :lol: Mysims? That's the best you can come up with?You missed'mature' products likeRE:UC, RE4 Wiimake, Manhunt 2, No More Heroes, Disaster Day of Crisis, Scarface, Godfather, Mortal Kombat..........and that's just the games this year and that we know about.

- Wii has a lot more 3rd party support than GC had. And while not flagship,some actually look promising.

- Hidden extra costs? So does every single system ever made. PC is the worst offender. Now you're just being stupid.

- Online's coming. Yeah, Nintendo have been slow, but it is coming.

Xbox 360: 7/10

Pros

• still cheaper than a PS3 (especially now)
• now supports 1080p :)
• free version of Xbox Live covers everything I care about
• Makes BC games look better than the original Xbox (thanks to upscaling and AA)
• multiplatform games generally look better and have more features on this console than the PS3
• achievements let me know how much game I have to uncover
• SotN on 360 means I can keep my original PS1 disc in pristine order.

Cons

• Microsoft is still having hardware issues
  • With mine, I can play XBLA games okay, but I load up a demo or disc game, and it not only freezes up in play, but throws up the RLoD. Makes me glad I bought the replacement plan from best buy
• The Elite (IMO) should be the new Premium model and the existing Premium should replace the Core
• Now that MS has indeed released an Elite, it begs to wonder if we'll see yet another revision that integrates an HD-DVD/BluRay drive and/or WiFi support?
• The non-Elite 360's run damned hot
• Why a points system? Why not stick to a more relevant $/¢ value?
• As of yet, I still haven't seen a reason for me to want to buy into keeping my gold membership after this prepaid card expires.

Summary: Microsoft has had plenty of time to refine the system and get some quality games out. But they seriouisly need to address the mechanical/thermal issues, and not make us pay a premium price like with the Elite to get a 'fixed' 360.

Nintendo Wii: 9/10

Pros

• Nintendo kept their ambitions modest and only bit off what they knew they could chew
• Legendary nintendo quality and reliability
• Perfectly backward compatible with the entire GameCube library
• Enables 480p full-time
• Motion sensing that doesn't suck
• Excellent first-party games

Cons

• The overwhelming majority of third party games available now are hopeless.
• While the wii-mote effectively replaces the need for a mouse, it would be nice to be able to plug in a keyboard for the Wii browser
• Nintendo has promised a lot with regard to online, and has yet to deliver.
• The System codes bit is too much like the DS game-specific friend codes, and that's not a good thing.
• Where the hell are the online games?

Summary: Nintendo's pretty much guaranteed itself a winner with this thing. It just needs online games... without requiring those ridiculous friend codes, damn it.

PlayStation 3: 2/10

Pros

• It still plays the majority of PS2 and PS1 titles...
• It is still the cheapest BluRay movie player on the market
• At least it's not as fugly as the (original) PS2
• A standard hard drive and being able to upgrade with an off-the-shelf drive later is a big plus
• It is wickedly fast at crunching on the newly provided Folding @ Home app

Cons

• ... But most of the games I care about (Final Fantasy, NFL 2k5, etc.) were either listed as glitched or incompatible on the PS3 last I checked
• The PS1 was notoriously weak for playing music CD's, and the PS2 was a notoriously unreliable DVD movie player, which only would get worse for actually using it this way... ironic since it was one of Sony's selling points for the system. And now, Sony is again repeating the same thing with BluRay on the PS3.
• Extraordinarily pathetic reliability and build quality from Sony products (and my prior history) dictates that I will be spending $2000 (after taxes) before finding a single PS3 unit that isn't going to bust and destroy half my game library in the process.
• Sony initially had the right idea by having the actual hardware needed to properly run PS1/PS2 games by having the correct CPU/EE chips needed for those games. With the next hardware revision, Sony has once again repeated the same mistake with the PStwo and ripped these chips out of the PS3 design. Why?! :?
• $600 is $600, no matter how you slice it. I can almost get a car for that price.
• ... Its high price mandates that I will have to get a pre-mod one on the sheer reality of being able to make use of it.
  • which drives up the price even further
• I hate the way the SIXAXIS feels in my hands.
  • With the PS1/2 controllers, I generally keep my pointer/index fingers on the L2/R2 buttons to help in hodling up the pad and being ready to press the appropriate buttons. With the SIXAXIS, my grip is constantly screwed up and I can't hang onto it properly.
• No user-replaceable battery means that SIXAXIS is going to become very much useless in about a year's time, and Sony will just say "buy another one, l0l"
• Multiplatform games on the PS3 have so far looked and played worse on the PS3
• Each time I look, there are less and less games for the PS3 I'd actually want.
  • It's getting to where the only reason I'd buy a PS3 is in the event my PS2 finally bites the dust and cannot find a (regular, proper) PS2 to replace it anymore.
• Sony makes a memory card reader to be able to import PS1/2 game saves onto the hard drive, but why not an adapter to hook up PS1/2 controllers, dance pads, etc. ? I still enjoy my DDR now and again, thank you.
• In spite of all of Sony's hype about 't3h 1080p', and they can't be bothered to give us what is essentially a $20-$30 cable to make it happen?
• Sony's Home thing just sounds like a bastard child's cross of myspace and Second Life... which equals a steaming turd, IMO.
• The 360 may be a rather hot running system, but at least it didn't melt metal like the Wal-Mart display PS3's have. Or for that matter, run as insanely loud as the kiosks that do have working units. Every time I go into the gamestop and someone's playing a PS3 game on the demo unit there, my head just starts ringing from the excessive fan noise it makes just to keep the damn thing cool enough to keep playing. :?

Summary: Kaz Hirai created the Playstation as we know it on a personal vendetta to get revenge on Nintendo for the failed deal of a SNES CD drive. Given the issues with the PS3, I think Hirai has taken his hatred of Nintendo far too personally, and letting it cloud what better judgment he might have had.

Keep in mind that I am rating the systems, not the games available for them.

X-Box 360 - 7

Excellent system, but it brings nothing new to the table.

PS3 - 9

The system is good, it does something new, but cost is a small factor.

Wii -8

Very weak compared to the competition, but pushed the industry forward, and ended stagnation. Also affordable.

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"][QUOTE="The_AI"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"][QUOTE="goblaa"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"][QUOTE="wok7"]

Crappy negative Wii excuses from the TC.

Optusnet

How are they crappy

some were spot on, but the rest were either completly false, redundant, or just opinion....but this topic is about opinion.

yeah it is which is why I only responded to that post lol.

But which ones were false?

- Primitive controller (Please... :lol:)
- Bad hardware (It's not bad, just underpowered)
- Ugly GUI (Depends on your taste)
- Super Kiddy (Can we please stop pulling the kiddy card?)
- Lack of third party support (Last time I checked, third parties were jumping to make games for the Wii)
- Not a diverse library (no sandbox type games, no racing simulators, etc. etc.) (This one is pretty true, but the genres will diversify soon)
- Already the typical Nintendo game droughts (There have been a steady trickle of games for a while)
- Too expensive (This one speaks for itself :lol:)
- Not only is it expensive but it has tons of hidden costs (You don't have to buy most of the extra hardware)
- Virtual Console games have no online or leaderboards (How is that a flaw...?)
- Relies too heavily on PS2/PSP/GameCube ports (There have been alot, but I don't think that it relies on those, so much as Nintendo and Konami's games)

- It is. Not 1:1 movement
- Very very underpowered
- It's ugly
- MySims, need I say more?
- Not their flagship games though.
- yes
- Yeah but not enough
- It is or a GCN with a primitive motion sensing controller
- Yeah you don't but if you want to play VC games or games with nunchuk you do
- Because they're expensive and it'd be cool to play many Nintendo games online
- eh

- Wii is the most accessible controller. PS3's motion-sensor is incredibly gimmicky and tacked-on, where as the wiimote's motionis implemented much much better.It has pixel-perfect accuracy, and Wii Sports Baseballhas some implementation of 1:!.It's not primaiive - it's simple. Your logic is primitive though.

- Yes, it's underpowered but it's not 'bad'. I fail to see how hardware can be 'bad' unless it's faulty like in some 360's.

- Some games are ugly, some aren't

- :lol: Mysims? That's the best you can come up with?You missed'mature' products likeRE:UC, RE4 Wiimake, Manhunt 2, No More Heroes, Disaster Day of Crisis, Scarface, Godfather, Mortal Kombat..........and that's just the games this year and that we know about.

- Wii has a lot more 3rd party support than GC had. And while not flagship,some actually look promising.

- Hidden extra costs? So does every single system ever made. PC is the worst offender. Now you're just being stupid.

- Online's coming. Yeah, Nintendo have been slow, but it is coming.

- It's not 1:1 - just try and uppercut the bat for example. And the pitching sucks too. Fact is the Wiimote isn't 1:1 and is just an excuse for Nintendo to repackage the GameCube.

- It's bad hardware cause it's not this-gen like.

- Most are.

- Those are just the exceptions - even the GCN had its "mature" titles but it was still kiddy (but good - it wasn't as kiddy as the Wii). The PS2 has tons of kiddy games but those are the "exceptions" not the rule.

- Wii has more third party support than the GCN? Okay... whatever you say then. Can't wait for Resident Evil 5 on the Wii or Star Wars: Rogue Squadron IV! Oh wait.

- Yeah well I'm waiting. And VC games need online too.

360 - 8/10

PS3 - 6/10

Wii - 8.5/10

Microsoft Xbox 360: 8.6/10

+Developer friendly software

+Currently the best game selection (as far as reviews go)

+Second to none online gaming service

+Nice improvement over the Xbox

-Not so great backwards compatibility support

-Multiple SKUs stratify the userbase

-Hardware is a little too risky for the price

Nintendo Wii: 8.0/10

+Unique controller (full motion sensing), points to numerous gameplay possibilities in the future

+Virtual Console with a great selection of old/new games

+Very affordable for the consumer

-Didn't improve much beyond the controller

-Some VC games are overpriced

-Gaming library at the moment is overshadowed by mini-games

Sony Playstation 3: 8.5/10

+Most powerful console of the three

+A bevy of multi-media features

+Most promising future line up so far

-Price is out of reach for some

-Limited selection of games as of now

-Could be harboring a grounded format (if HD-DVD or DVDwins)

PC: 9/10

+Has a lot of great features

+Internet!!!!!!!

+Very flexible

-Can be very expensive

-Hackers

-Gaming library is diverse but not as much in each category.

Xbox360- 9/10

Wii and PS3- 7/10

If you hold the remote like a base ball bat and slowly wiggle it, the bat will move EXACTLY like the remote does because it IS tracking your movement 1:1. Just because wii baseball is programed to keep the bat in a swing zone does not mean the Wii or wiimote is too weak to handel it. Nintendo themselves said they had zelda TP working with 1:1 but decided against using it.goblaa

Why wouldn't they?

[QUOTE="goblaa"]If you hold the remote like a base ball bat and slowly wiggle it, the bat will move EXACTLY like the remote does because it IS tracking your movement 1:1. Just because wii baseball is programed to keep the bat in a swing zone does not mean the Wii or wiimote is too weak to handel it. Nintendo themselves said they had zelda TP working with 1:1 but decided against using it.AHUGECAT

Wii - 7.5 (though if more games come out it will be an 8.5)

Xbox 360 - 8.5

PS3 - 6.0

I'll go even further just for my own amusement.

Xbox 1 - 9

GameCube - 8.75

PS2 - 8.25

Dreamcast - 9

Nintendo 64 - 9.5

Playstation 1 - 6.5

Saturn - 6.5

Super Nintendo - 8.5

NES - 9

Genesis - 6

A lot of you are so biased that this poll becomes meaningless.

XBOX360: Gaming 8, Hardware 8, Price 8

PS3: Gaming 5, Hardware 9, Price 5

PC: Gaming 6, Hardware 7, Price 2

Winner is XBOX360 and looser is PC. If Sony dropped the price on the PS3 and started making games for their machine, would be great.

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"][QUOTE="goblaa"]If you hold the remote like a base ball bat and slowly wiggle it, the bat will move EXACTLY like the remote does because it IS tracking your movement 1:1. Just because wii baseball is programed to keep the bat in a swing zone does not mean the Wii or wiimote is too weak to handel it. Nintendo themselves said they had zelda TP working with 1:1 but decided against using it.codezer0

[QUOTE="Optusnet"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"][QUOTE="The_AI"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"][QUOTE="goblaa"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"][QUOTE="wok7"]

Crappy negative Wii excuses from the TC.

AHUGECAT

How are they crappy

some were spot on, but the rest were either completly false, redundant, or just opinion....but this topic is about opinion.

yeah it is which is why I only responded to that post lol.

But which ones were false?

- Primitive controller (Please... :lol:)
- Bad hardware (It's not bad, just underpowered)
- Ugly GUI (Depends on your taste)
- Super Kiddy (Can we please stop pulling the kiddy card?)
- Lack of third party support (Last time I checked, third parties were jumping to make games for the Wii)
- Not a diverse library (no sandbox type games, no racing simulators, etc. etc.) (This one is pretty true, but the genres will diversify soon)
- Already the typical Nintendo game droughts (There have been a steady trickle of games for a while)
- Too expensive (This one speaks for itself :lol:)
- Not only is it expensive but it has tons of hidden costs (You don't have to buy most of the extra hardware)
- Virtual Console games have no online or leaderboards (How is that a flaw...?)
- Relies too heavily on PS2/PSP/GameCube ports (There have been alot, but I don't think that it relies on those, so much as Nintendo and Konami's games)

- It is. Not 1:1 movement
- Very very underpowered
- It's ugly
- MySims, need I say more?
- Not their flagship games though.
- yes
- Yeah but not enough
- It is or a GCN with a primitive motion sensing controller
- Yeah you don't but if you want to play VC games or games with nunchuk you do
- Because they're expensive and it'd be cool to play many Nintendo games online
- eh

- Wii is the most accessible controller. PS3's motion-sensor is incredibly gimmicky and tacked-on, where as the wiimote's motionis implemented much much better.It has pixel-perfect accuracy, and Wii Sports Baseballhas some implementation of 1:!.It's not primaiive - it's simple. Your logic is primitive though.

- Yes, it's underpowered but it's not 'bad'. I fail to see how hardware can be 'bad' unless it's faulty like in some 360's.

- Some games are ugly, some aren't

- :lol: Mysims? That's the best you can come up with?You missed'mature' products likeRE:UC, RE4 Wiimake, Manhunt 2, No More Heroes, Disaster Day of Crisis, Scarface, Godfather, Mortal Kombat..........and that's just the games this year and that we know about.

- Wii has a lot more 3rd party support than GC had. And while not flagship,some actually look promising.

- Hidden extra costs? So does every single system ever made. PC is the worst offender. Now you're just being stupid.

- Online's coming. Yeah, Nintendo have been slow, but it is coming.

- It's not 1:1 - just try and uppercut the bat for example. And the pitching sucks too. Fact is the Wiimote isn't 1:1 and is just an excuse for Nintendo to repackage the GameCube.

- It's bad hardware cause it's not this-gen like.

- Most are.

- Those are just the exceptions - even the GCN had its "mature" titles but it was still kiddy (but good - it wasn't as kiddy as the Wii). The PS2 has tons of kiddy games but those are the "exceptions" not the rule.

- Wii has more third party support than the GCN? Okay... whatever you say then. Can't wait for Resident Evil 5 on the Wii or Star Wars: Rogue Squadron IV! Oh wait.

- Yeah well I'm waiting. And VC games need online too.

- Wii is capable of near 1:1 motion. Before youswing you bat inBaseball in Wii SPorts,you can twirl or move your bat around 1:1

- bad hardware =/= not next-gen hardware. Wii has bad hardware simply because it's not next-gen? So the fact that Wii is a lot easy to develop for, is drastically cheaper, and can prdouce graphics over GC/Xbox makes it bad? Badhardware = faulty, overly expensive and/or time consuming, unreliable, glitchy/buggy.

- Exceptions? Those 'exceptions' I saidproved Wii is not a kiddy console. The fact that my parents and most other 'non-gamer'adultsare willing to play the system above any other system proves your wrong. Andmany E orTeen games also have a teenage/adult audience aimedfor them such asMetroid Prime 3, Smash Bros, the new Zelda, Excite Truck, Wii Sports, Madden, Call of Dutyand others.

-Most games upcoming are not ugly. And fif you think you are, take off the fanboy goggles or stop having such high expectations. It'sfine is Wii can't do 360 graphics.

- It'll be the exclusive games from 3rd parties that'll count for Wii. Not RE5 and.......wait, Rogue Squadron IV isn't even announced! Besides, Wii is not out to be like PS3 or 360 - it's meant to compliment one of those consoles (eg. Wii60)

- I have Strikers Charged (a game that also has teenages and adults playing) and I'm a lot of fun with it online. True, VC games need online, but Madden, Fifa, Red Steel 2, Forever Blue, Guitar Hero IIIand Brawlwill all have online.

360 - 8.9/10

Positives

Very well balanced

great controller

great gaming library

many capabilities other than games

XBL, and XBL marketplace

XBOX

Negatives

Hardware malfunctions

in a way too much like a PC ( design and to many FPS, not that is a bad thing, however it wouldnt hurt to have more than just shooters)

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PS3- 9.5

Positives

Amazing system

Most Powerful

best and most practical controller

Blu Ray

DVD RIPPER

all capapbilities

emulate and Play PC games

run Computer programs

free internet

built in wifi

Ipod and PSP connectivity

PS1, PS2,PS3

awesome fall, winter line up MGS4

MOST POTENTIAL LONGEST LIFE SPAN

HDMI

Change hard drive

Negatives

- online needs catching up to XBL

- price although that will change honestly its a steal for what you get

Games not so hot now

PSN store needs TV shows, Movies, etc..

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Wii - 8.8

Positives

Inovative

fun to play

brining more and more into the gamming comunity

great games and line up

SSBB

ZELDA

Wiimote

NES,SNES,N64,GC compatible

VC

cheap

fun, i may have already said that

Negatives

I dont think it plays DVD's not that big of a problem though

Wiimote I just see eventually game developers putting same types of games out

shortest life span maybe

I think they main reason they didn not use it is because it was a port and doing it required a pretty major revamp of the combat system. They didn't want to deviate from the normal zelda system.

But hey,they're working a new zelda as we speak and it's suppoesed to be very diffirent, so maybe the next one will have cool controls

[QUOTE="codezer0"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"][QUOTE="goblaa"]If you hold the remote like a base ball bat and slowly wiggle it, the bat will move EXACTLY like the remote does because it IS tracking your movement 1:1. Just because wii baseball is programed to keep the bat in a swing zone does not mean the Wii or wiimote is too weak to handel it. Nintendo themselves said they had zelda TP working with 1:1 but decided against using it.Duckman5

Proboably because it was the Wii launch, and they didn't have enough time. They were tweaking controls right up to its release date.

OT: Waluigisucks more than a vacuum

Xbox 360

Aesthetic: 9.0/10
Hardware Reliabilyity: 4.5/10
Capabilities: 8.0/10
Games (now): 7.5/10
Games (upcoming): 9.5/10

Playstation 3

Aesthetic: 10/10
Hardware Reliabilty: 9.5/10
Capabilities: 9.5/10
Games (now): 5.5/10
Games (upcoming): 9.0/10

Nintendo Wii

Aesthetic: 8.5/10
Hardware Reliabilty: 9.5/10
Capabilities: 3.0/10
Games (now): 6.5/10
Games (upcoming): 7.5/10

[QUOTE="Duckman5"][QUOTE="codezer0"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"][QUOTE="goblaa"]If you hold the remote like a base ball bat and slowly wiggle it, the bat will move EXACTLY like the remote does because it IS tracking your movement 1:1. Just because wii baseball is programed to keep the bat in a swing zone does not mean the Wii or wiimote is too weak to handel it. Nintendo themselves said they had zelda TP working with 1:1 but decided against using it.Optusnet

Proboably because it was the Wii launch, and they didn't have enough time. They were tweaking controls right up to its release date.

OT: Waluigisucks more than a vacuum

I think they main reason they didn not use it is because it was a port and doing it required a pretty major revamp of the combat system. They didn't want to deviate from the normal zelda system.

But hey,they're working a new zelda as we speak and it's suppoesed to be very diffirent, so maybe the next one will have cool controls

goblaa

Yeah. They said that they wanted to make the game as close to the GC game as possible while just adding Wiimote controls. They didn't want Gamecube owners to feel like they were being cheated out of stuff, so they didn't have 1-1 controls, they didn't improve the graphics, or do anything major to it other than the controls. The biggest change that they did was to flip it around because they made Link right-handed since the majority of the people who played would use the Wiimote in their right hand.

Considering that they didn't want to change the gameplay, I think they did a very good job at implementing the controls on what was essentially a Gamecube game.

PS3 9.5

360 9.0

wii 8.5

Based on current state:

PC: 9.5\10 - Cos its a PC

360: 9\10 - cos of bad unreliable hardware and awsome games

Wii: 6\10 - Fun but ugly

PS3; 3\10 - No good games, price is a joke(here in nz it is 1200NZD~850USD)

Fruity_mixer

I live in NZ too!!!!

PC: 9/9.5- Only problem is you spend lots of money on the most powerful hardware and in a few months new hardware is released thats is even more powerful.

360:9- good games great graphics and online.....but unreliable hardware (My forza 2 is ******* up as i write this post!!)

Wii:1.5- Just not my kinda console, bad hardware, games that i think are mostly kiddy ( hate all that mario crap).