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#101 htekemerald
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[QUOTE="htekemerald"]

[QUOTE="tok1879"] I guess your standards must be really high, because everywhere i keep reading about people being wowed by it. And i was too. Anyway outta curiosity, what games do wow you?12345678ew

In no particular order

Age of empires

Star Craft

Diablo I/II

Halflife

Morrowind

Oblivion

Far Cry

Kotor

OOT

Counter Strike

Geow

WoW

TF2

Goldeneye

Perfect Dark

Doom I/II

Super Mario World

Final Fantasy

Crysis

+many many more

crysis is the only one of those that "wow" me..... the rest are just nice shooters. well TF2 is awesome too. but age of empires? i have that cause it's the most complicated thing my dad can understand.

Pretty much everygame there was revolutionary and amazing for its time. If you honestly belive that say halflife was just a "nice shooter" then you know nothign about the fps genera.

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#102 htekemerald
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[QUOTE="htekemerald"]

[QUOTE="789shadow"]

The burden of proof is on you.

789shadow

Lets me break it down for you, by your logic a runner's 1K time and a 1000HP custom racing automobiles 1K time are directly comparable.

Makes perfect sense...

Oh and find me a link saying they are not directly comparable, I will be waiting.

I'm still waiting for your link.

You say platforms do not have different standards therefore a game that is graphically perfect on say the DS looks as good as crysis. Comeback when you have an argument other than "give me an arbitrary link".

Oh and the Burden of proof is on you. Give me a link which proves different. See what a good argument style that is!

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#103 bearbones
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[QUOTE="789shadow"]

[QUOTE="htekemerald"] Please direct me to a link where they say all platforms scores are weighted equally.

htekemerald

The burden of proof is on you.

Lets me break it down for you, by your logic a runner's 1K time and a 1000HP custom racing automobiles 1K time are directly comparable.

Makes perfect sense...

Oh and find me a link saying they are not directly comparable, I will be waiting.

The link doesn't exist because it's COMMON SENSE; a good game is a good game, regardless of platform. Horse power should never enter the equation.
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#105 mgkennedy5
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...because it's an amazing game...
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#107 Cyberfairy
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[QUOTE="htekemerald"]

[QUOTE="KukicAdo"]U2 Is one of the best games this gen.Zero_epyon

Must be a sadder generation than I had realised.

Play the game....again....

actually, since the game is so cinematic, it was a bore playing through it again because you knew what was going to happen. I couldn't do it :/

but it was amazing the first time.

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#108 Toriko42
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U2 Is one of the best games this gen.KukicAdo
Top 20 yes, Top 10 maybe...
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#109 nervmeister
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[QUOTE="htekemerald"]

[QUOTE="789shadow"]

[QUOTE="htekemerald"]

Lets me break it down for you, by your logic a runner's 1K time and a 1000HP custom racing automobiles 1K time are directly comparable.

Makes perfect sense...

Oh and find me a link saying they are not directly comparable, I will be waiting.

I'm still waiting for your link.

You say platforms do not have different standards therefore a game that is graphically perfect on say the DS looks as good as crysis. Comeback when you have an argument other than "give me an arbitrary link".

Oh and the Burden of proof is on you. Give me a link which proves different. See what a good argument style that is!

What about the multiplats shared between PC and consoles that scored the same amount? Are you honestly trying to suggest that the PC versions of those are in fact better than the console versions even though they have no major advantages in PC's favor?
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#110 Crazyguy105
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Biased much?

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#111 gmc2u_64
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[QUOTE="htekemerald"]

[QUOTE="789shadow"]

I'm still waiting for your link.

nervmeister

You say platforms do not have different standards therefore a game that is graphically perfect on say the DS looks as good as crysis. Comeback when you have an argument other than "give me an arbitrary link".

Oh and the Burden of proof is on you. Give me a link which proves different. See what a good argument style that is!

What about the multiplats shared between PC and consoles that scored the same amount? Are you honestly trying to suggest that the PC versions of those are in fact better than the console versions even though they have no major advantages in PC's favor?

Off topic, but that is THE best Sig EVER.

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#112 Sully28
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this is just like the time GeOW was in practically everything in g4.

soiheardyoulike

The only difference being uncharted is actually a good game.

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#113 htekemerald
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[QUOTE="htekemerald"]

[QUOTE="789shadow"]

I'm still waiting for your link.

nervmeister

You say platforms do not have different standards therefore a game that is graphically perfect on say the DS looks as good as crysis. Comeback when you have an argument other than "give me an arbitrary link".

Oh and the Burden of proof is on you. Give me a link which proves different. See what a good argument style that is!

What about the multiplats shared between PC and consoles that scored the same amount? Are you honestly trying to suggest that the PC versions of those are in fact better than the console versions even though they have no major advantages in PC's favor?

No major advatages except playable framerates, decent resolutions, modability, better multiplayer, ect.

Take the orange box for example, far superior on the PC yet it got the same score as on a console.

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#114 789shadow
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[QUOTE="nervmeister"][QUOTE="htekemerald"] You say platforms do not have different standards therefore a game that is graphically perfect on say the DS looks as good as crysis. Comeback when you have an argument other than "give me an arbitrary link".

Oh and the Burden of proof is on you. Give me a link which proves different. See what a good argument style that is!

htekemerald

What about the multiplats shared between PC and consoles that scored the same amount? Are you honestly trying to suggest that the PC versions of those are in fact better than the console versions even though they have no major advantages in PC's favor?

No major advatages except playable framerates, decent resolutions, modability, better multiplayer, ect.

Take the orange box for example, far superior on the PC yet it got the same score as on a console.

It's far superior only in opinion.

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#115 htekemerald
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[QUOTE="htekemerald"]

[QUOTE="nervmeister"] What about the multiplats shared between PC and consoles that scored the same amount? Are you honestly trying to suggest that the PC versions of those are in fact better than the console versions even though they have no major advantages in PC's favor?789shadow

No major advatages except playable framerates, decent resolutions, modability, better multiplayer, ect.

Take the orange box for example, far superior on the PC yet it got the same score as on a console.

It's far superior only in opinion.

Sure :roll:

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#116 789shadow
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[QUOTE="789shadow"]

[QUOTE="htekemerald"] No major advatages except playable framerates, decent resolutions, modability, better multiplayer, ect.

Take the orange box for example, far superior on the PC yet it got the same score as on a console.

htekemerald

It's far superior only in opinion.

Sure :roll:

Please prove to me that the PC version is better. With facts this time.

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#117 htekemerald
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[QUOTE="htekemerald"]

[QUOTE="789shadow"]

It's far superior only in opinion.

789shadow

Sure :roll:

Please prove to me that the PC version is better. With facts this time.

:roll:

Unless you hate games with a playable frame rate, a good resolution, mods, constant updates, and more the PC version is better.

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#118 nervmeister
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[QUOTE="gmc2u_64"]

[QUOTE="nervmeister"][QUOTE="htekemerald"] You say platforms do not have different standards therefore a game that is graphically perfect on say the DS looks as good as crysis. Comeback when you have an argument other than "give me an arbitrary link".

Oh and the Burden of proof is on you. Give me a link which proves different. See what a good argument style that is!

What about the multiplats shared between PC and consoles that scored the same amount? Are you honestly trying to suggest that the PC versions of those are in fact better than the console versions even though they have no major advantages in PC's favor?

Off topic, but that is THE best Sig EVER.

Guess I'm getting good reception on this new one so far. Thankyou. :)
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#119 nervmeister
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[QUOTE="htekemerald"]

[QUOTE="789shadow"]

[QUOTE="htekemerald"] Sure :roll:

Please prove to me that the PC version is better. With facts this time.

:roll:

Unless you hate games with a playable frame rate, a good resolution, mods, constant updates, and more the PC version is better.

So your basically saying that the 360 version of the Orange Box (which is in fact a last-gen game) is unplayable. Please forgive us if your claim sounds a bit "farfetched". :roll:
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#120 lawlessx
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i had no idea people took the G4 gaming awards seriously. Didn't fable 2 win last years when it clearly didn't deserve it?
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#121 sonicthemegaman
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It's Naughty Dog. Of course it won almost all the categories. ND have made some of the best games out there. lol @ at haters.
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#122 htekemerald
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[QUOTE="htekemerald"]

[QUOTE="789shadow"]

Please prove to me that the PC version is better. With facts this time.

nervmeister

:roll:

Unless you hate games with a playable frame rate, a good resolution, mods, constant updates, and more the PC version is better.

So your basically saying that the 360 version of the Orange Box (which is in fact a last-gen game) is unplayable. Please forgive us if your claim sounds a bit "farfetched". :roll:

Sorry if PC standards dictate that 30fps and below is unreasonably low. You can have fun with your slide show, I will have fun with my games. Agree?

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#123 789shadow
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[QUOTE="789shadow"]

[QUOTE="htekemerald"] Sure :roll:

htekemerald

Please prove to me that the PC version is better. With facts this time.

:roll:

Unless you hate games with a playable frame rate, a good resolution, mods, constant updates, and more the PC version is better.

.

Oh, yeah, I forgot, consoles don't have those things.:roll:

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#124 Mr_Apple_Soup
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[QUOTE="soiheardyoulike"]

this is just like the time GeOW was in practically everything in g4.

Sully28

The only difference being uncharted is actually a good game.

they're both incredible games actually :D

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#125 seabiscuit8686
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[QUOTE="htekemerald"]

[QUOTE="nervmeister"] What about the multiplats shared between PC and consoles that scored the same amount? Are you honestly trying to suggest that the PC versions of those are in fact better than the console versions even though they have no major advantages in PC's favor?789shadow

No major advatages except playable framerates, decent resolutions, modability, better multiplayer, ect.

Take the orange box for example, far superior on the PC yet it got the same score as on a console.

It's far superior only in opinion.

Quoted for ignorance. I think we found a person who has never had a gaming PC.... And to the guy who said he owns Age of Empires just for his dad or something like that - wow. I feel bad for this generation of kids. They can't even appreciate amazing games. I bet there are only a handful of people who have played the original Command and Conquer (with friends, on dial-up), or LAN'd Age of Empires II, or played a Commador 64. I feel bad for them as their standards are so much lower than they should be. Why do you think it's the PC people who are always shouting "lazy devs" when the newest generation yells "amazing game." Because we've actually played amazing games
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#126 superapo
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why not, Uncharted 2 is one of the best games ever made.InfiniteBlak
it just copies every game before it. No originality whatsoever.

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#127 Renzokucant
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PC is hard to score for because every PC is different, depends on how much someone is willing to put into their PC
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#129 htekemerald
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[QUOTE="htekemerald"]

[QUOTE="789shadow"]

Please prove to me that the PC version is better. With facts this time.

789shadow

:roll:

Unless you hate games with a playable frame rate, a good resolution, mods, constant updates, and more the PC version is better.

Oh, yeah, I forgot, consoles don't have those things.:roll:

sub 720p and sub 30 fps

.

if you think that is good. I advise you try PC gaming.

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#130 deangallop
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[QUOTE="789shadow"]

[QUOTE="htekemerald"] :roll:

Unless you hate games with a playable frame rate, a good resolution, mods, constant updates, and more the PC version is better.

htekemerald

Oh, yeah, I forgot, consoles don't have those things.:roll:

sub 720p and sub 30 fps

.

if you think that is good. I advise you try PC gaming.

Here I'll ask again for you shadow... Where's the proof????

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#131 htekemerald
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[QUOTE="htekemerald"]

[QUOTE="789shadow"]

Oh, yeah, I forgot, consoles don't have those things.:roll:

deangallop

sub 720p and sub 30 fps

.

if you think that is good. I advise you try PC gaming.

Here I'll ask again for you shadow... Where's the proof????

Prove that 60+ >> 30fps?

Uhhh, I'm going to let you work that one out yourself.

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#132 hyperboy152000
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[QUOTE="InfiniteBlak"]why not, Uncharted 2 is one of the best games ever made.superapo

it just copies every game before it. No originality whatsoever.

so your telling me that the story in u2 can be found exactly the same in another game, oh and btw there really hasnt been an "original" game since like what the 80's and even then those games were "copies" of the games that came before it

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#133 deangallop
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[QUOTE="deangallop"]

[QUOTE="htekemerald"] sub 720p and sub 30 fps

if you think that is good. I advise you try PC gaming.

htekemerald

Here I'll ask again for you shadow... Where's the proof????

Prove that 60+ >> 30fps?

Uhhh, I'm going to let you work that one out yourself.

No proof that the console version runs at 30 fps and the PC version runs at 60 fps, and while your at it you should find some gameplay footage of both that proves the PC version looks and plays better, that isnt asking very much , is it????

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#134 hyperboy152000
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[QUOTE="deangallop"]

[QUOTE="htekemerald"] sub 720p and sub 30 fps

.

if you think that is good. I advise you try PC gaming.

htekemerald

Here I'll ask again for you shadow... Where's the proof????

Prove that 60+ >> 30fps?

Uhhh, I'm going to let you work that one out yourself.

why are people argueing with you when you clearly cant comprehend that fact is not the same thing as an opinion, if you cant work THAT one out yourself you shouldnt be telling that to other people

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#135 htekemerald
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[QUOTE="htekemerald"]

[QUOTE="deangallop"] Here I'll ask again for you shadow... Where's the proof????

deangallop

Prove that 60+ >> 30fps?

Uhhh, I'm going to let you work that one out yourself.

No proof that the console version runs at 30 fps and the PC version runs at 60 fps, and while your at it you should find some gameplay footage of both that proves the PC version looks and plays better, that isnt asking very much , is it????

Google it. Not going to waste my time "proving" common knowledge with links.

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#136 superapo
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[QUOTE="hyperboy152000"]

[QUOTE="superapo"]

why not, Uncharted 2 is one of the best games ever made.InfiniteBlak
it just copies every game before it. No originality whatsoever.

so your telling me that the story in u2 can be found exactly the same in another game, oh and btw there really hasnt been an "original" game since like what the 80's and even then those games were "copies" of the games that came before it

what about assassins creed? its story and gameplay mechanics are very original. uncharted 2 is like tomb raider with a guy and hd visuals
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#137 htekemerald
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[QUOTE="htekemerald"]

[QUOTE="deangallop"] Here I'll ask again for you shadow... Where's the proof????

hyperboy152000

Prove that 60+ >> 30fps?

Uhhh, I'm going to let you work that one out yourself.

why are people argueing with you when you clearly cant comprehend that fact is not the same thing as an opinion, if you cant work THAT one out yourself you shouldnt be telling that to other people

So 60 >> 30 is an opinion?

I must not have paid attention in school.

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#138 Toriko42
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i had no idea people took the G4 gaming awards seriously. Didn't fable 2 win last years when it clearly didn't deserve it?lawlessx
Wordage Fable 2 winning GOTY was shameful
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fable 2 was not goty material
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#140 brennan7777
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[QUOTE="789shadow"]

[QUOTE="htekemerald"]

Lets me break it down for you, by your logic a runner's 1K time and a 1000HP custom racing automobiles 1K time are directly comparable.

Makes perfect sense...

Oh and find me a link saying they are not directly comparable, I will be waiting.

htekemerald

I'm still waiting for your link.

You say platforms do not have different standards therefore a game that is graphically perfect on say the DS looks as good as crysis. Comeback when you have an argument other than "give me an arbitrary link".

Oh and the Burden of proof is on you. Give me a link which proves different. See what a good argument style that is!

Well lets sit back and see if DA PC gets Goty then decide :roll:

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#141 789shadow
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[QUOTE="789shadow"]

[QUOTE="htekemerald"] No major advatages except playable framerates, decent resolutions, modability, better multiplayer, ect.

Take the orange box for example, far superior on the PC yet it got the same score as on a console.

seabiscuit8686

It's far superior only in opinion.

Quoted for ignorance. I think we found a person who has never had a gaming PC.... And to the guy who said he owns Age of Empires just for his dad or something like that - wow. I feel bad for this generation of kids. They can't even appreciate amazing games. I bet there are only a handful of people who have played the original Command and Conquer (with friends, on dial-up), or LAN'd Age of Empires II, or played a Commador 64. I feel bad for them as their standards are so much lower than they should be. Why do you think it's the PC people who are always shouting "lazy devs" when the newest generation yells "amazing game." Because we've actually played amazing games

Metacritic PC score = 96

Metacritic 360 score = 96

Who's ignorant again? Or do I need to tell you the difference between fact and opinion?

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#142 brennan7777
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[QUOTE="seabiscuit8686"][QUOTE="789shadow"]

It's far superior only in opinion.

789shadow

Quoted for ignorance. I think we found a person who has never had a gaming PC.... And to the guy who said he owns Age of Empires just for his dad or something like that - wow. I feel bad for this generation of kids. They can't even appreciate amazing games. I bet there are only a handful of people who have played the original Command and Conquer (with friends, on dial-up), or LAN'd Age of Empires II, or played a Commador 64. I feel bad for them as their standards are so much lower than they should be. Why do you think it's the PC people who are always shouting "lazy devs" when the newest generation yells "amazing game." Because we've actually played amazing games

Metacritic PC score = 96

Metacritic 360 score = 96

Who's ignorant again? Or do I need to tell you the difference between fact and opinion?

Not to mention xbox has 20ish more reviews.

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#143 Jrfanfreak88
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Anyone else notice how Uncharted 2: Among Thieves was nominated for just about every category of the video game awards...

http://g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/701150/G4s-Best-of-2009----The-Nominees-Are.html

Renzokucant
Did you also notice that the 360 basically has no exclusives in most of those categories except ODST? Uncharted 2 has game of the year in the bag pretty much.
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#144 Espada12
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[QUOTE="seabiscuit8686"][QUOTE="789shadow"]

It's far superior only in opinion.

789shadow

Quoted for ignorance. I think we found a person who has never had a gaming PC.... And to the guy who said he owns Age of Empires just for his dad or something like that - wow. I feel bad for this generation of kids. They can't even appreciate amazing games. I bet there are only a handful of people who have played the original Command and Conquer (with friends, on dial-up), or LAN'd Age of Empires II, or played a Commador 64. I feel bad for them as their standards are so much lower than they should be. Why do you think it's the PC people who are always shouting "lazy devs" when the newest generation yells "amazing game." Because we've actually played amazing games

Metacritic PC score = 96

Metacritic 360 score = 96

Who's ignorant again? Or do I need to tell you the difference between fact and opinion?

This doesn't help your argument at all. If anything he is stating the fact and you are giving the opinion, of course if you don't believe me ask yourself one thing...how's the class updates on the 360 version of TF2 going?

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#145 BPoole96
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It will win everything. Even best Racing Game.Floppy_Jim

Yeah the part with the trucks blowing up on the mountain side was on the the best racers I've ever played. Elana was so close to winning but then that guy with the Rocket Launcher...

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#146 DragonfireXZ95
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well its kind of hard to argue that uncharted 2 didnt have the best of everything. best story? hell ya. best animation? bar-none. best voice acting? the best. best action adventure? no ****. best soundtrack? its up there. best multiplayer? top 5. best graphics? dont get me started. i can go on and on

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Dragon Age beats it in story. Dragon Age also beats it in voice acting. Best multiplayer? Not even close. L4D2 is the best this year imo, Demon's Souls is up there too. The only thing it could even be a contender for this year is best graphics.
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#147 DeeDeeDee-er
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[QUOTE="htekemerald"]

[QUOTE="PBSnipes"]

http://z.about.com/d/compactiongames/1/0/H/h/1/dragonageorigins_box.jpg

Whoops.

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Most of the people claming uncharted 2 as the best game of all time have not touched either the console or real version of Dragon Age so you can't blame them to much.

I have the game on PC and its a very cool game but voice acting sucks. Especially in the beginning if you start off as a human noble.

" I was playing as an elf, and at one point a character said to me 'HELLO YOU ARE AN ELF.' If I had been a human, presumably they would have said 'HELLO YOUR ARE AN A$$HOLE!' " Sorry, couldn't resist. Anyway I don't even have Uncharted 2 yet since I don't have a PS3 yet, but just by watching videos of it and reading reviews of it I can understand why it would be nominated for everything. Don't tell me you didn't see this coming.

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#148 ___gamemaster__
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reminds me of MGS4 almost sweeping the major awards here in GS. :P

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#149 longtonguecat
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reminds me of MGS4 almost sweeping the major awards here in GS. :P

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Despite everything I still can't believe they gave graphics to it over Crysis Warhead...

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#150 miscin123
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Are the posters in this thread serious? You guys got to be kidding me, ic why I barely visit this section anymore... UC2 is NOMINATED, it hasnt won every category n it rightly so is NOMINATED. You guys got to be kidding me when youre saying oh DA wins soundtrack of the year or voice acting, uncharted is a worse bla bla bla.. GUESS WHAT? UC2 HASNT WON AND ITS ONLY NOMINATED, IF UC2 WON THOSE CATEGORIES THAT YOU GUYS CLAIM DA IS BETTER THAN I WOULD SEE A REASON FOR YALL TO BE UPSET ( which in the first place uncharted puts up a fight).

ALMOST every aspect of uc2 is top 3 in any category it is put up. SO WHEN A GAME IS ONE OF THE BEST IN A CATEGORY, REGARDLESS IF ITS THE BEST, WHAT HAPPENS? IT IS PUT UP AS A NOMINATION JUST LIKE UC2 HAS BEEN.

/rant you people lack logic sometimes.

Edit: Ic the reasons why you guys are upset n are jealous, because ur fav games havnt been nominated n some of them should be... guess what though? ITs not UC2 fault since that game deserves to be in the nominations but you should take out ur rantin on one of the other games in those categories since UC2 is always top 3 or so.