ReCore coming to PC in 2016!

I think we all getting confused by terminologies here. PC is ascosiated with computers that run on microsoft's operating systems. Computers are not microsoft's platform and computer gaming is not always windows exclusive. Microsoft Operating system and gaming api pretty match owns this market, still there is a huge market that use other operating systems as big as microsof is this is still a market to be tapped. They are under threat by upcoming vulcan api that will get even more games to be sent to the other markets as well. They have to react and this is one way.

@Phazevariance@NyaDC this is probably what @NathanDrakeSwag and others are trying to point out.

These guys sound like some of the biggest, nerdy, salty, dipshit, fanboy, liars I have ever listened to... Jesus Christ...

I get that MS wants to spread it's games over all the possible systems. This of course means more money for them. However, if they have some kind of intention of making the Xbone a standout console. This is probably is not the best way to handle that.

No it isn't.

PC is an open platform. You lemmings need to stop deluding yourselves.

ruh roh, are we going to have another PC/Windows/Mac/linux system problem again

@ellos: ReCore is a Microsoft Ip, and Inafun-san and Armature were asked to develop the game.

91% of the consumer market uses Window's, if you're running Window's you are on Microsoft's platform, just as OSX is what makes a Mac a Mac.

This isn't rocket science, the PC is a modifiable and configurable device however it falls under the platform of its operating system that you're using. If you're running Window's on PC then your platform is Window's, if you're running Linux then your platform is Linux, if you're running OSX then your platform is OSX.

You lemmings? Let's compare Steam accounts pal, let's see who has the most stake and verifiable time in the PC sector, it's sure as hell not going to be you.

@lostrib: It should not even be a debate. Ps4, Xbox, and Wii u are consoles. They share similar traits. Console as a whole is not a "platform". Windows,Linux/Mac Os are platforms that support various frameworks. They are all Personal Computers. Windows and Linux and Steam Os are viable as gaming platforms(AAA releases) but is you own a Mac or a Chome Book they are not.

Like looking in a mirror eh?

You're on point with everything, but Mac is still pretty capable for gaming now, obviously not to the degree of PC but it's still viable if you have one. Out of the 635 games I own on Steam I can install and play 193 of them on my iMac, it's not perfect but it's a hell of a lot better than it used to be.

Not even remotely.

It's come up a few times, there's an SW rule about it for defining exclusives

Well we're not having a debate here, QuadKnight is just disconnected from reality and trying to argue with it, the PC is the universal title for the device, just as a console is referred to as a console, within that title for each there are independent platforms.

It is what it is.

Actually I don't think any of that exists anymore, I think GameSpot staff completely deleted it in place of the actual community conduct rules lol...

System Wars dead?

Microsoft has two large fish to fry i.e. Apple's iTunes and Google's Play app stores.

That's why for steams sake they would love for there major titles to be on one universal api. They would love to sell you every game on what ever OS you chose to run on. As long as you got the hardware. For MS sake lets not get carried away here, the percentages add up. If you want serious gaming you run windows and windows only damn it.

@spitfire-six thanks for the who owns this IP clarification.

Good news for PC gamers who want to play it I guess... but I'll be getting on Xbone.

Safe to assume that Nya is damage controlling nicely in here.

How exactly? I don't even know anything about this game, whether it will be better played in a console environment or PC, I'm just talking straight reality here.

I'm happy to see games get options for the PC and console user, more developers/publishers should embrace it.

Yeah, no.

Yeah, yes, you should have let it go, there was nothing to debate there except for the Mac line.

@Desmonic: Just stop.

A computer platform is a system that consists of a hardware device and an operating system that an application, program or process runs upon. An example of a computer platform is a desktop computer with Microsoft Windows installed on it. A desktop is a hardware device and Windows is an operating system.

The operating system acts as an interface between the computer and the user and also between the computer and the application. So, in order to have a functional device, you need hardware and an operating system together to make a usable computer platform for a program to run on.

The hardware portion of a computer platform consists of a processor, memory, and storage. The processor is a bit like your brain and memory is like a scratchpad for your brain to use while you're working out a problem.

It used to be that people referred to different computer platforms by their physical size, from smallest to largest - microcomputers (smallest), minicomputers (mid-size), and mainframes (largest). The term microcomputer has fallen somewhat out of favor - now most people just refer to these machines as computers or personal computers.

http://study.com/academy/lesson/computer-platforms-definition-types-examples.html

Yeah, no. This idea that they share similar traits, ergo, are all Personal Computers is a bit naive.

They don't share ecosystems, they don't share libraries (aka, if you want something to play on your WiiU, regardless of it existing on PC/PS4/XB1 already, you can't really play it unless it's made specifically for that platform), they don't even share the same hardware even in the cases of it being extremely similar. Each console is it's own separate platform as far as any metric is concerned.

The argument sorta works for OS's, since for the most part (Mac perhaps being the trickiest one to do this with), one hardware, one single machine, will run all 3 OS's. Same can't be applied to any console really. Still, you're gonna need to keep them separate even in a single machine.

And then you have the severe the lack of apps/programs that make Personal Computers (and nowadays, mobile hardware too) well...Personal. Your average crappy laptop will still allow you to do a whole lot more than any current console.

Okay. That still doesn't explain how consoles, media machines at their very best, are now suddendly Personal Computers.

Going by this generic reasoning, with consoles you have the hardware, the OS and that's it. You're lacking the rest, the actual important part, the applications. You can't grab a text editor on your PS4, you can't grab a video editor for your XB1, your can't start programming with a WiiU, etc. Not without making some deep changes to what comes pre-installed in the actual box of course, but that's a whole different subject.

lol you're asking me how you're damage controlling. Now that's funny.

Only in SW where a game goes multiplat and its a bad thing. Console owners will support the games they wanna play and I will buy this game if it's good on the bone and support good games.

I can't tell what you're trying to argue here, PC's are an open source eco-system to a degree, consoles are not. Consoles are fixed into their configurations both in hardware and software to play what they do and what is created for them functions on them and only them. Each operating system on a PC is an individual platform all its own, it doesn't matter if you can have four OS's installed on a single PC, they're all independent of each other. The PC is the vessel for the operating system which creates a platform, the PC is not the platform itself.

If something releases on Window's and it doesn't function on any other OS's it is exclusive to the Window's platform, just like a game on a console created for only that console is exclusive to it or an application which is only created and functions on OSX only functions on OSX. If you're playing games on a PC and the operating system you are running is Window's, Window's is your platform on PC and you're playing a Window's coded game.

There's really nothing else to discuss here, this is very simple to understand and I'm struggling to understand your motivations or what you're reaching for.

Lets add to this... PC games being available only on Windows has a negative impact against non-MS OS PC platforms i.e. it causes the end users to select Microsoft OS ahead of other solutions, hence $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ for MSFT.

The majority of X86-64 PC is a MSFT platform. I have the backing from U.S government's legal findings.

AMD Mantle was nullified with Microsoft's "assimulate and extend" tactics i.e. the same tactics used to nullify Word Perfect, Lotus 123, IBM OS/2, 3DFX Glide, Netscape, Real media/Real Audio and 'etc'.

With Windows Vista, MSFT removes Creative Lab's audio API/3D DSP access by pulling the rug under them. For TrueAudio, AMD workaround this issue via graphics driver hole.

Every new PC must have ACPI with Microsoft's tables for Windows ACPI HAL i.e. Linux camp didn't like little manoeuvre.

AMD's 64bit extensions wouldn't survive without MSFT's king maker support. MSFT has the market power to change Intel's direction.

Intel, AMD and NVIDIA must release Windows Direct3D driver which is dictated by MSFT's market power and specifications.

@nyadc: See but I'm arguing just that, each console or OS is its own thing.

I thought you guys were calling consoles PC's, ergo, they werent individual platforms.

now i'm confused about who is arguing what

No, no, no lol.

Consoles are each their own platforms, just like OS's, but they belong to the console moniker or title rather than PC, OS's are the platforms of the PC title.

@nyadc: Well then, nevermind. Mistakes were made lol

Carry on! :P

Consoles are "garden walled" PCs. Without DRM hacking, MSFT and Sony dictates what programs you can run on their console hardware.

In general, MSFT didn't restrict what type of applications being run on Windows, but MSFT has killed off games that relied on DVD/CD DRM drivers with their recent Windows release. MSFT also stops applications that causes large amount of BSOD reports and annoy their IT support via Windows Update's compatibility black listings. MSFT's anti-virus software also has similar remote controls.

If your application annoys MSFT's IT support at a large level, your application will be black listed in the next patch Tuesday.

Xbox One just got more useless then. Lame that it'll be locked to an unfinished OS, though.

Then that pretty much confirms Quantum Break on PC. Hell Yeah!!!

Glad I'm not the only one.

At least it's guaranteed to be better than Horizon which is going to tank badly because (lul guerrilla)

That's great, I now have a choice on what system to get the game on, I will see how Recore plays, if it's more an mmo then pc it is. If a good friend of mine gets it on Xbox One then I will also.

Wait, wait, wait.... I was being a bit tongue in cheek but still.... I'm confused, are you saying that from me just stating what I did, a fact, makes you think I know jack shit about corporate finance? C'mon man, say it isn't so...I mean, Really. :P

Is realy simple irrelevant to the fact that you are not a PC gamer many of us are,the point of exclusives it to have something you can't find somewhere else,so if Recore,is on PC that is a detriment to the xbox one worse because i don't remember the game being anounce as PC also when it was unveil.

So officially the xbox one has 3 exclusives for 2016,that is down right pathetic,not only the PS4 has way more exclusives comming this year,but also has many more like Recore which are on PC and PS4 but not on xbox one.

Because you don't need an xbox to play it..

No is the fact that lemmings have always downplay the PS4 as having nothing but games that are also on PC,so when their turn comes up they have to deal with it.

Crackdown online, no single player.

Gears 4

Quantum Break

That is all the xbox one has going by that list is sad,gears is not what it use to be Crackdown has never being great the last one was horrible,and Quantum Break is an unproven series could be great like TLOU or could be bad like The Order.

Is 2016 sunset over drive is a 2014 game,not even when it launch people cared the game didn't chart on NPD.

QB,Crackdown and Gears is all i see there as exclusive and is pathetic,hell it surprise me to not see Forza Horizon 3,maybe they will reveal it latter as if it as some kind of surprise to any one the series is now a mary go round between Forza MS and Forza Horizon.

Scalebound is 2017.

Yeah i need a link to that bold part.

Last i knew the xbox one has problem even keeping up with the PS4 when it comes to games that are on PC so i don't see all windows 10 games coming to xbox one.

Probably a lie to make it seem like a bigger hit.?

But on the other side lemmings are hyping this game even without actual gameplay being shown,they did the same with Scalebound and many were the times that i asked lemming how could they be exited about a damn CG movie that showed nothing gameplay wise and showed a totally unrealistic look of how the game would be.

But it is a loss never the less for lemms as they hype this game as an exclusive vs the PS4.

No.

To stream XBO games to PC you need a PC and XBO,so regardless of having a PC you NEED an XBO to do it,what happen here is that a game that was claim to be exclusive it really isn't an exclusive so you don't need an xbox one at all just a PC.

Nice try dude but your example is not the same.

If you want to play Halo 5 on PC you need an XBO,or Recore you don't need that.

Is not great for the xbox.

Lets see if you will like it when next gen comes in and they say they are moving their games to PC and killing the xbox brand or selling it.

@tormentos: yes I can and will lol get over yourself

Reading through this I must admit I had partaken in quite a bit of Tullamore Dew Irish Whiskey. I apologize my friends. But by all means, try that whiskey.

No PC is an OPEN platform not owned by MS at ALL,sony use to make games for PC dude where in hell have you being? Did you ever read about SOE..? It was sold early last year by sony.

Everquest,Planet Side2,DC Online H1z1.

Why would i want sony to do that.? PS4 exclusives are its soul,if the xbox doesn't have exclusives why in hell would any one buy one.? The same apply to the PS4,if i could get all PS exclusives on PC why in hell would i want or need a PS4 for.?

PC is stronger more open and multi use and has free online play.

Nice DC dude,i remember a time where last gen was great for the xbox 360 because it had so many exclusives and the PS3 didn't have many,those were the days...lol

Hahaha yeah that is why the PS4 sold more.

PC is an open platform the OS is make by MS but they don't control what goes in it,as simple as that,even sony use to make games for windows,steam doesn't respond to MS at all as well as other gaming platforms inside PC like Origins.

So yeah MS make windows but now PC is not a MS platform at all the xbox one is a MS platform.

So steam belongs to MS and Origin as well.?

No.? Oh then it is not their platform.

PC is an open platform it doesn't belong to MS in any way.

PC is not MS platform and in court they loss that,in fact that remind me of a time when they wanted every PC manufacture to come slapped with windows because they claim piracy was a problem,they loss in court MS doesn't own the X86 design they make software for it,and so restrictive is MS on its own platform that there are things they can't even do on their own software without getting sue,much like it happen when they bundle IE in the 90's to destroy netscape.

Again MS has no control on what goes into windows and trying to pretend that windows is to MS what the Vita is to sony is a joke,even more trying to justify the loss of a game,PC is PC and the xbox is the xbox,they are 2 separate platforms PC games don't work on xbox one and xbox one games don't work on PC as simple as that.

So yeah the xbox one just loss another game,and from what i can see it only has 3 exclusives this year,Gears crackdown and Quantum Break,gears has gone down hill and is not made by epic any more,Crackdown was never a great game,and it last chapter sucked,and Quantum Break which is the one interesting is an unproven series could be great could be bad.

You don't need an xbox one to play Recore THAT IS THE REAL PROBLEM HERE FOR THE XBO,windows store or not is on PC i don't need an xbox one for it,that is the blow is multiplatform the xbox one loss another game.

No amount of damage control can change that.

Post of da day. :P

No apology needed from you my friend and you know me, I loves mah Maker Mark bourbon but I assure you, if I get the chance I'll give that whiskey a taste or two or three some time. :D

You just descrived your self without the nerdy part.

Do i need and xbox one to play Recore.?

Then the xbox one LOSS and exclusive game being sold through windows or steam doesn't change the fact that i don't need an XBO for Recore,no amount of damage controls will change this and PC is an open platform regardless of MS controlling most of the market.

And.? So was planet side 2 to sony before they sold it,did that mean it was exclusive.? oh wait PS2 was a PC before being on Playstation but how could that be if it was made by sony onine entertainment.

The fact that you people want to pretend that this game doesn't affect the xbox because it is a MS IP or because it is sell through the windows stores is a joke,the FACT here is you don't need an xbox one any more to play Recore which wasn't the case a few days ago,now it is confirmed to be multiplatform,you know the ones like SF5 which you lemmings downplay as not needing a PS4 for it.? Yeah those ones.

Do you need and xbox one to play Recore.?

WTF...lol

Now consoles are not platforms,so the PS4 doesn't run an OS nor the xbox one,oh wait the damn xbox one run windows 10.

Consoles are enclosed platforms dude,stop your damage control windows is an open platform i can go now make a game deliver it and i don't have to give MS a cent from it,MS doesn't control what goes on windows it merely deliver a os to runs problems on it reason why different markest exist on windows does different markets exist on xbox one.?

Do you have steam on xbox one.?

Hell the PS4 and xbox are basically PC with an custom OS down right to their CPU memory and GPU,ports and everything in between.

Awesome, I'll see what the specs are nearer release and if I can run it then I'll get it on PC.

Still can't wait to play this.

It's very relavent to the fact that I'm not a PC gamer so thus those games are exclusive. There are millions of gamers that are and good for them and there are million of gamers that are just console only gamers so any game that's X1/PC or PS4/PC means we either going to play the game on the X1 or PS4 which makes it exclusive to us. All these games are exclusive to 1 console to me cause I can only play them on 1 console, period end of story.

Trying to reason with tormentos, you poor sod.

I have a game room and still won't use a PC to play games, they still are nothing more then a pain trying to get everything to work correctly.