ReCore coming to PC in 2016!

Let me make this simple for you blind lemming can you play xbox one games on PC.?

Phisically insert and install an xbox game on PC.?

Can you publish game on xbox one without MS concent.?

Can you publish games on PC without MS concent.?

Your whole wintel crap argument like always is a total derail so you can argue something that NO ONE was ARGUING.

Just because MS say on the EUELA that they can come to your house and kill you if you stop using windows doesn't mean the LEGALY can even if you agree to it,and this is were your argument fail.

Fact is unless you breach contract MS can't terminate your software without any reason just for fun.

So once again the argument is the xbox one LOSS 1 exclusive,having the game on PC HURTS the xbox one because now you don't need an xbox one for it,that is call a loss a multiplatform in other words,if this continues the xbox will loss its reason for being alive,which bring me to my other point i think this moves are being done because MS is moving its series to PC and leaving the xbox brand to die or sell it.

It does the more exclusive xbox games land on PC,more and more irrelevant the xbox one becomes,if i can get all xbox games on PC why would i want an xbox for specially when PC has free online play,and has many more games the xbox one doesn't play.

The same apply to any console as i already told you you lemmings did care about exclusives last gen this one you don't is sad.

Blind lemming? Windows has existed before Xbox you stupid cow. My views with Wintel vs time wasters (e.g. PowerPC, MIPS, Alpha, 'etc') haven't changed.

@tormentos said:

Phisically insert and install an xbox game on PC.?

Physically insert and install an PS2 game on PS4?

Physically insert and install an PS3 game (with low SPE usage) on PS4?

@tormentos said:

Can you publish game on xbox one without MS concent.?

I can release XBO games by following MSFT's guidelines. Your argument with the "console tax" doesn't negate Microsoft's governance over the Wintel platform.

A programmer needs a certificate runtime to run programs on XBO.

A programmer needs a publisher certificate to avoid un-user friendly Windows's SmartScreen warning message on Windows 8/8.1/10 X86 and X64 editions.

If 3rd party app needs driver level access, a programmer needs a certificate runtime to run programs on Windows 7/8/8.1/10 X64 editions.

A programmer needs a certificate runtime to run programs on Windows 8/8.1/10 ARM edition.

GS has restricted any discussions on running homebrew code on any game consoles with a restricted DRM.

@tormentos said:

Your whole wintel crap argument like always is a total derail so you can argue something that NO ONE was ARGUING.

The only crap is your post. Your argument with the "console tax" doesn't negate Microsoft's governance over the Wintel platform.

@tormentos said:

Just because MS say on the EUELA that they can come to your house and kill you if you stop using windows doesn't mean the LEGALY can even if you agree to it,and this is were your argument fail.

That's red herring. Microsoft's EULA refers to the license agreement NOT "they can come to your house and kill you".

Breaking civil laws and paying fines are just the cost doing business. You are native.

@tormentos said:

Fact is unless you breach contract MS can't terminate your software without any reason just for fun.

MSFT is not interested with time wasting activities.

Again, from Windows 8 EULA

What if Microsoft breaches any part of this agreement? If you have any basis for recovering damages from Microsoft, you can recover only direct damages up to the amount that you paid for the software. You may not recover any other damages, including consequential, lost profits, special, indirect, or incidental damages. The damage exclusions and limitations in this agreement apply even if repair, replacement or a refund for the software does not fully compensate you for any losses or if Microsoft knew or should have known about the possibility of the damages. Some states and countries do not allow the exclusion or limitation of incidental, consequential, or other damages, so those limitations or exclusions may not apply to you. If your local law allows you to recover other damages from Microsoft even though we do not, you cannot recover more than you paid for the software.

If Microsoft breaches any part of this agreement, Microsoft is only liable for the cost of this software i.e. Windows. In another words, they CAN DO THAT i.e. breach their own agreement.

Microsoft can and has terminated 3rd party software i.e. Microsoft is governing Windows.

@tormentos said:

So once again the argument is the xbox one LOSS 1 exclusive,having the game on PC HURTS the xbox one because now you don't need an xbox one for it,that is call a loss a multiplatform in other words,if this continues the xbox will loss its reason for being alive,which bring me to my other point i think this moves are being done because MS is moving its series to PC and leaving the xbox brand to die or sell it.

(SNIP)

Large car manufactures has multiple brands e.g. VW group has Skoda, SEAT, VW, Audi brands. SEAT models can overlap on some of VW's models, but in the end of the day, it's still VW.

Your argument is flawed since doesn't reflect large multinational corporation's marketing tactics.

There are multiple paths, but there's only "One Microsoft Way".

XBO's business model is for countering Japanese's "console tax" business model by adopting/assimilating the same business model.

Unlike PlayStation 4, games being available for either Wintel PC or XBO doesn't reduce Microsoft's platform dominance position.

To keep it simple,

Games on Windows = Microsoft is happy. Increase Windows desirability over alternative OS.

Games on XBO = Microsoft is happy. Increase XBO desirability over alternative game consoles.

Games only on PS4 = Microsoft is NOT happy.

Note that PS4's FreeBSD OS usage offers very little benefits to the overall FreeBSD/OpenBSD community.

OS without hardware is useless. The hardware is just a vessel to contain the OS. The OS gives the computer it's character i.e. the programmers create programs that uses OS's functions.

PS4's is effectively a X86 PC but it's customised FreeBSD OS gives it a different character to a Wintel PC. Same with Apple's MacOS X (customised Mach unix clone OS named Darwin) running on X86 PC.

XBOX is effectively a cut-down/slim-down Wintel PC but the it requires runtime certificate to enable user-land apps to run on it. XBO's runtime certificate requirement is similar Windows for ARM CPUs.

XBO's DRM has additional protection over it's Wintel PC counterparts which is mostly targeted for developer's desire to protect their content.

Due to legal constrains, XBO and PS4 are protected by DCMA type laws, but some people chose to ignore the DCMA laws and has made certain a console which will remain nameless into kit-bash Linux X86-64 box. There's a few difference with PS4 which is outside the GS forum's scope.

When nearly everybody running on X86 PC, it's the OS that makes the difference.

OS + CPU is the platform for the apps.

CPU is the platform for the OS.

This thread is starting to prove my original theorem that lems will start to have an identity crisis this gen as they become proxy Hermit cheerleaders.

Are herms ready to accept their new found brethren?

Careful, PS4 not restricted to just Sony signed code.