Red Dead Redemption 2 is average at best

Criteria between "movie game" and uh "whatever you don't consider a movie game" is hazy af here.

I knew the actor sounded nothing like Arthur Morgan. It's really forced, the voice, like the actor overcompensates to make him appear manlier. It's a comical voice. I don't like the character.

Made for men LMAO wtf are you even talking about? Also you have no right to talk about skills when you can't even control third person games with M/KB lol.

COntrol, the last game I finished, was such a different experience. Photorealistic graphics and high AAA production values as well, but the game never took control away from me like all these movie games. Like, she didn't suddenly start walking slowly every couple of minutes so that the game could highlight something story-related the developer wanted you to see. I don't even find the story of Control that special or good, abundance of audio logs and journals was stupid, but at least I fucking played it, even when I explored the weird.

She moved efficiently, wasn't an old, fat piece of shit lumbering through every animation. I could swap shoulders all the time, not just when zooming in with the aim button, so wasn't blinded when I moved around corners. The default speed wasn't fucking walk, because it's a video game, not some shitty life simulator. When I did want to explore a place calmly, I could slow to a walk with left Alt. It wasn't forced upon me. The dodge was very functional, straightforward, could be used in any position, unlike this overcomplicated mess here.

Sounds like a Rockstar game.

There is a reason I avoided it. Everything I heard about the game didn't help either.

I have to agree with the praise Desperados 3 is getting itt. The game has so much more soul than anythign I have seen from Rockstar.

All this from one hour of gameplay in a 50+ hour game? don't think this thread deserves to be taken seriously.

If you enjoy immersive open world games its one of the best

As I said, I played the first couple of hours years ago on PS4 and then the online portion for a few hours on PC when it was just 5 dollars, before restarting the single player a few days ago. At the time of posting, I was actually at two hours, was mistaken about one hour. Must have thought it was shorter because I had done nothing interesting in all that time.

You avoid everything unless its some low budget indie or has a Nintendo written on the box🤡

Just occurred to me that they disabled shoulder swapping outside of aiming/zooming in because they expect you to use the sticky cover system a lot. Pathetic!

Yeah, well said. Control is a great game.

I'm definitely not anti-story/cinematics in a game, but it needs to be done properly (like Control, or games like Half-Life 2 & Bioshock back in the day). Most games nowadays are waaaaay to cinematic and constantly take control away from you. Gameplay needs to be on par with story/cinematics for importance (and certain companies lean way to much to the cinematics, and constantly get rewarded for it by most of the games media who seem to forget these are games, not movies!).

I couldn't get into it either, bored me to be honest. Fuks sake I'm a true simpleton, I wish I would enjoy these "masterpiece" movie games more. Lots of movie games i have to force myself to get through, unless the gameplay and pacing is good, like in Spiderman and uncharted.

RDR2 is one of the worst cases of movie games though... a walking/horse simulator, ugh.

It's been a while since I beat it, but I remember not being happy with the time I spent. It felt like they didn't know if they wanted arcadey or a sim; and they landed somewhere in the middle.. which I didn't care for.

Like many have said, many of the missions were boring, or would end because you thought of a better approach than what they designed. The story was decent, the acting was good, the details were great, but the fun was absent.

Half the systems were completely superfluous. I upgraded the base constantly, and was barely rewarded with a few bullets (which I found constantly), and some food (that I found constantly). And if I didn't find enough of those, I found or earned tons of money, so I just bought it. I also hated buying stuff from the brochure. Maybe that's authentic, but it felt too easy. Either I need to wait days to receive my goods, or have specialty items to only be obtainable from certain locations in the world. And that should require an effort to reach. If I want the higher quality, more accurate rifle rounds, make me ride a long ways, or take a lengthy train ride to get there... if immersion is the goal. On the train, you could spend time cleaning your weapons, to gain an accuracy bonus. Or you could gain more information about missions and locations of interest. Or spend that time drinking and gambling. And WTF happened to liars dice?

On top of that, riding the horse didn't feel good. It was probably more realistic than the last game, but it wasn't as enjoyable. I loved just strolling the desert under a canopy of stars in the first game. I dreaded using the horse in this one. But I did keep the same horse all game; so the end got me.

Hunting and gathering was pointless as well. You could spend hours with that nonsense, crafting something that at best, barely benefits you at all. But good Lord did they add enough useless costumes, so you can play dress up till the cows come home.

To me, this didn't feel anything like a spaghetti western. RDR1 did, but this felt a lot more like Cold Mountain or Deadwood. Maybe with the humor of Django sprinkled in. I know not all cowboys lived in aired desert landscapes, but that's what I loved about RDR1, and I wanted more. This spent way too much time in the mountains and the swamps for my tastes. It started to get there at the very end... and then it ends. It also takes place at the end of the wild west? That's half the reason I'm playing this f*cking game!... to escape our lame ass world, and experience that one... from the cushy safety of this one! It's a scramble.

It's definitely a technical showpiece... but I did not have fun.

I'll be honest.

I bought this game

got 3 hours in

Got really bored and turned it off

Put in SSX3

Never played RD2 again, that was like a year ago. I've thought about playing it again but I don't want to lol

One of the best open world games. If not, the best. People keep getting filtered. Rockstar's swan song.

thats still not enough time to really get into the meat of the game and what makes it great. The first few hours are heavily scripted if I recall.

I really enjoyed the story but I loved the open world, and the simulation-lite elements like hunting and fishing for food and the random stuff that happens in the open world.

The game might not be for you, but you can't really pass judgement based on what you've played. its a slow burn and takes a while to get going.

the Online portion sucks. I loved the singleplayer but I couldn't get into it at all

@warm_gun: control is definitely worst remedy game. Its all samey location plua gunplay suck and remedy games alwqys have memorable story/characters but control is forgattable.

LOL!! you wont play this game because its not movie game its not AAAA high production but its creative game that required skills. its commandos in wild west.

Mission quality varies a lot but overall they're fine. I've spent almost 200 hours with this game, maybe 20% of that was the campaign? I loved it, those 80% it's a 10/10 game for me. Incredibly immersive world.

Regarding GamePlay I don't get exactly why people call it bad. Specifically the shooting I like how most weapon feel and often I get the impression people wanted to be shooting automatic weapons.

It's overrated,not Sony first party overrated,but overrrated

It's overrated,not Sony first party overrated,but still overrrated

If RDR2 was made by any other developer and sold less than 5 million, you dwees would have turned it into a cult classic by now.

Gameplay/mission design is shockingly bad. Well they would be unless this is how R* games always play. The focus in a R* game is to show cool stuff that they have created, not let you do cool stuff.

For people who just wants to control the camera and are impressed by details (”omg the rabbit has flip flops 😯!”) their games are great. If you enjoy to be creative yourself, not so much.

There you go using that word again you know nothing about skills. Stop pretending you are some elite gamer when you are to afraid to go online and play against real people because you will get exposed.

LOL focus on one word yet ignore the entire game or video.

if you are so elite or old school gamer. how come you love casuaal games like GTA5, RDR2 and others? but quit Prey because it was too hard or never played any immersive sim.

Honestly, RDR2 is more or less GTA with horses instead of Cars. With the added optional sides of hunting and what not. If you don't like the GTA games you won't like RDR2. In fact, you'll probably hate it.

Also many gamers like to start a game and have some massive exciting fight right from the time the game starts. RDR2 is not that type of game.

Personally I liked it. I really need to play this again, but PC is only way to play this game now. Input lag isn't a problem at 60fps, and 60fps is THE ONLY way to play this game in first person mode.

@sargentd: SSX3 is the shit with a killer soundtrack.

I found it dead boring, and the gameplay and story weren't good enough to keep me interested through the many glacially slow sections.

I love an immersive game with lengthy cutscenes, but RDR2 just felt like it was wasting my time.

This place have a hard time with the definition of the word OPINIONS!

Never said I was you are the one that keeps bringing it up over and over again about your "skills" you replied to me first in this thread about it. It's funny that you call GTA V and RDR2 casual when you can't even control them with a KB/M. lol

Red Dead Redemption is mediocre at best for me, and that's just me being nice.

Such fucking chores to play these games. Video games are supposed to be fun to play, and Rockstar Games have more fun making the games than allowing gamer's to have fun.

Umm, no. Half the people that shill for Red Dead Redemption don't even watch Spaghetti Westerns. People that love Spaghetti Westerns probably don't touch this shit with a ten-foot poll.

I love Spaghetti Westerns; but goddamn, these games suck.

Shit control but still they are games where its impossible to die.

RDR2 control even worse with controller with autoaim lol.

Max payne 3 is rockstar best game. last time rockstar want to make game instead of glorified walking talking movie game.

I really don't enjoy other people play this game for the most part. Cover, cover, cover, ugh...

The lack of a slow run makes me angry. The video game jog is a staple, present in nearly every third person 3D game since the '90s. I hate this binary awfulness of only walking and running fast, all to feel more authentic. Because in real life you rarely run. **** off, Rockstar.

Cool story guy.

I just finished a replay of this game last night. I respectfully disagree!

this is why most third person games suck and I mostly only play first person titles.

Your precious Alan Wake and Max Payne 1 have a slow run. What are you even talking about? Somebody decipher for me this shit Ghosts is throwing at the wall. I know most of the time he is just seeing what sticks.

Well we all got our opinions. I personally found RDR2 as the the best story I've ever played in a video game but yes, the gameplay was like all other Rockstar games - piss easy, third-person cover shooter. Played through the game twice and put almost 200 hours into it but I also have a bias as I love my gritty westerns so there's that. And yes, you can definitely call it a movie game, with the slow parts in there to muddle the pacing absolutely. I still found it better than the garbage God of War Ragnarok with everyone crying and apologizing and that whole thing starting to feel like an Avengers flick or something towards the end.

But I get it. RDR2 is not for everyone.

they control like crisp and clear unlike RDR2 which have sprint button disable when in camp.

So because Rockstar's games are outliers in not allowing you to run slowly (or not allowing you to sprint in camp, because you didn't actually care about what I said) third person games suck? Cool story, bro.

I thought red dead 2 was good but 1 was my favourite in terms of story. That ending still gets me.

It does a lot very well but, it can get incredibly tedious at times. It's one of the few games that I ended just speed running a large portion of it because it was taking forever to finish.

I don't think it was a bad game, but it definitely didn't enchant me like alot of other people. I don't really get how people think the story was top tier, because I found it pretty predictable. Even if you didn't play the 1st game, you can spot the villian right off the bat because he's wearing black and red like a cowboy Sith Lord. It's a good game, I just don't think it's the 2nd coming of gaming like alot of people said it was.

Yes, we all agree RDR2 is lacking the fun part.

It's not really a game you can automatically explore comfortably initially. To post a spoiler, you will have bounties hanging over your head until you take care of them. It's open world, but not Breath of the Wild. If you're willing to stick with the linearity, it's rewarding. There are tons of things to find and lots of little hidden story content here and there. The controls take some getting used to, but it's worth it.

The game so epically done, that I can't call it mediocre in any fashion. Does it need some polish in areas? Maybe. But it was an incredible experience overall.

RDR2 imo is the most technically impressive game ive played. Its the only open world that was done perfectly.

I didn't beat the first game, so I never played the 2nd game. It looks pretty, but the gameplay also looks really slow. I will try it someday to form my own opinion of the game.

The game’s a masterpiece. Yes, it has movie game qualities, but the gameplay was excellent. Dead Eye is one of the best gunplay features in third person shooters. The side missions were a blast. The world was incredibly fun to explore. My Game of the Generation for “last gen”, only behind Breath of the Wild.

@warm_gun

So you’re saying that you never felt as though you lost CONTROL of your character? 😆

But really, though. Control was a great game. Loved the psychologically trippy stuff in it.