Red Dead Redemption is so overrated

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#101 Thunderdrone
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This is on par with Assassin's Creed 1 at best.

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No way! One is a boring pos while the other is a great game.

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#102 exiledsnake
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I agree, but pretty much anything Rockstar puts out gets licked up by the critics. GTAIV and RDR are both wildly over-rated.

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What about Red Dead Revolver? Was that licked up?
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#103 Jesus_on_fire
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Meh, even though i was dissapointed with RDR (got boring around the time you got to mexico) i still want it to win over ME2.

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#104 ubpoker123
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I believe you TC, mainly because I have played Grand Theft Auto 4.
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#105 Lucianu
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Overrated by whom? Damn, wen will people learn that the term "overrated" is never going to be objective, and hence irrelevant, that terms should be cut out from the dictionary. The only thing that's fact is success & sales, which is also never going to be completely relevant to your taste, since GOATS(Greatest X/Y of all times) is personal to you, and subjective, but that's offtopic.. Moving on..

Preferance is another thing, and let me add this. Your favorite game is going to be, no doubt, someone's most hated game. That is human diversity, human nature, and fundamentaly fact. You can *** around all you want, i don't see how it could annoy you, since your entertainment is not affected by someone's rant.

Ontopic: RDR, though boring and repetative at some parts, had a wonderful story, and i consider it a more unique game this generation. Besides Starcraft 2, i'm hoping RDR will win GOTY. If SC2 falls, then i'm with RDR all the way.

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#106 tommyas
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Just beat the game. What a disappointment. Only good thing about it is the canyon scenery, but that got old pretty fast. Primary missions basically consist of the same lame shootouts over and over again. Side missions aren't even worth to be bothered with. Assassin's Creed 2 and GTA games are much better. This is on par with Assassin's Creed 1 at best. Also surprisingly short, beat it within 12 hours, but I guess that's a good thing considering the gameplay got boring way early on. The extra hour of end game is so shamelessly cheap since it is a rehash of the initial tutorial. It would be a travesty if this game wins GOTY. Far better open world games have already been made. This game is no where near the usual Rockstar quality.

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So you dont like it. If it is well accepted that doesnt mean everyone will like it. There is not a single game that is loved by everyone you know.
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#107 chocolate1325
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It's a good game but there are better games released this year.

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#108 _Pedro_
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Yeah I know & it shows how many immature people are in these forums. Your favorite game isnt winning the award you want so you pick out the one that did & start trashing it, lol what a joke.shawn7324

Yet these "immature" people are often quite right to question gamespots award system:

Amnesia wasn't even nonimated...

and what the hell?

Spiritual successor = sequel now.

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#109 jun_aka_pekto
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I think it's a good call by GS. Now, if only there's a PC port. It's one of a handful of console games I'd like to see ported over.

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#110 PAL360
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It´s easly the most immersive game this gen (awesome graphics, random events, great sound, etc...). More open world games should follow it´s steps.

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#111 mo0ksi
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While I don't nearly hate on it as much as other people do here, I don't see how anyone can find the story to be stellar when you put Mexico in the mix. It becomes wildly inconsistent by the time you get there.
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#112 mrmusicman247
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I wonder if the TC actually finished the game...
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#113 SecretPolice
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Not agreed to and in fact it will likely be considered as one of the all time greats this gen... seriously, a phenom game especially considering it has arguably the best piece of DLC offered for any game this gen. :o Though like any game, it still has it's flaws and could have been even better - I can't hardly wait for a Next Gen RDR. ZOMG... :D

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#114 Bigboi500
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I think most of the people that think it's boring just don't like the cowboy and western theme. Personally I'm tired of the gangsta and ghetto drug dealer scenarios over and over again.

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#115 mrmusicman247
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I think most of the people that think it's boring just don't like the cowboy and western theme. Personally I'm tired of the gangsta and ghetto drug dealer scenarios over and over again.

Bigboi500
This is my feeling towards it as well. I keep hearing people saying they hated riding the horse. I rode my horse almost EVERYWHERE. I enjoyed the conversations they would have on the horse rides. I enjoyed everything about the game. Including the glitches :P
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#116 Heil68
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I have to finish it yet, but it seems pretty good thus far.
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#117 Bigboi500
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[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

I think most of the people that think it's boring just don't like the cowboy and western theme. Personally I'm tired of the gangsta and ghetto drug dealer scenarios over and over again.

mrmusicman247

This is my feeling towards it as well. I keep hearing people saying they hated riding the horse. I rode my horse almost EVERYWHERE. I enjoyed the conversations they would have on the horse rides. I enjoyed everything about the game. Including the glitches :P

TBoGT was so cliche that I couldn't even force myself to finish it. I enjoyed L & D though, it was better than IV imo.

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#118 Suzy_Q_Kazoo
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I didn't really like it.

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#119 standarddamage
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[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

I think most of the people that think it's boring just don't like the cowboy and western theme. Personally I'm tired of the gangsta and ghetto drug dealer scenarios over and over again.

mrmusicman247

This is my feeling towards it as well. I keep hearing people saying they hated riding the horse. I rode my horse almost EVERYWHERE. I enjoyed the conversations they would have on the horse rides. I enjoyed everything about the game. Including the glitches :P

The fact that you didn't have to micro-manage the rides were a big plus. He woud just stay in sync with whoever he was riding with, and could then break away if he wanted.

This really was a great game that actually exceeded my expectations for it. It's also the first Rockstar game I've taken to 100% completion.

And TC, I've played this game over 100 hours, most of which was on single player. If you finished the game in 12 hours (if you even finished it at all), then you were doing one hell of a speed run and didn't bother looking around much at all.

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#120 Nike_Air
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I'm debating whether I should play it or not. I didn't like GTA IV's sloppy shooting controls or main missions and if this follows that formula in a different setting , then it's not for me. Anyone help me out here? What's it like to actually play the game?

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#121 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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Every popular, highly rated game is overrated because I say so.
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#122 psn8214
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I'm debating whether I should play it or not. I didn't like GTA IV's sloppy shooting controls or main missions and if this follows that formula in a different setting , then it's not for me. Anyone help me out here? What's it like to actually play the game?

Nike_Air

It's exactly like GTA:IV in terms of controls. Personally, I thought the missions were boring as ****, although it is pretty.

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#123 h575309
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Game is a snore. Once the polish wears off, its monotony . Couldnt force myself to finish it

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#124 Ravensmash
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I'm debating whether I should play it or not. I didn't like GTA IV's sloppy shooting controls or main missions and if this follows that formula in a different setting , then it's not for me. Anyone help me out here? What's it like to actually play the game?

Nike_Air
Shooting is a lot better in my opinion, and feels less clunky. I've never played with lock-on aiming either, expert all the way :D Missions are fairly standard open world ones, but there are some good instances of variety. The overall atmosphere and scale of the world helps with that. Definitely give it a go :)
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#125 psn8214
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I've never played with lock-on aiming either, expert all the way :DRavensmash

Me too. It still sucks. :P Mouse/keyboard would help a bit, as it did with GTA:IV, but the gunplay in Rockstar's games is clunky/lame. A proper crosshair would help a lot. They're lucky their ragdoll is god damned fantastic - that's what makes gunning down people so much fun in GTA:IV/RD:R.

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#126 IPWNDU2
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Red Dead Redemption is brilliant. Extremely rare for a game to to so accurately nail its own setting. The gunplay is great. The physics are superb. The writing and voice acting are a few levels above almost anything else that has come out this generation. For an open-world, sandbox game, the graphics are stellar. John Marston is a likable, sympathetic and flawed (that's a good thing) character. Was it perfect? No. But it was the most fun I've had in a long time. I didn't want it to end. Incredible game.Jared2720

Exactly this. Tc mad cause ME2 isn't getting GOTY here. Cry moar

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#127 Juggernaut140
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[QUOTE="lazerface216"]

[QUOTE="_Cadbury_"]I like how it's suddenly cool to hate on RDR now that it's sweeping up all the GOTY awards.shawn7324

nothing new in system wars. every popular console game gets this treatment.

Yeah I know & it shows how many immature people are in these forums. Your favorite game isnt winning the award you want so you pick out the one that did & start trashing it, lol what a joke.

What's even more immature is that you completely push aside opinions that deface your precious RDR. Seriously, people are allowed to have their opinions. Just because it goes against what reviewers and fans say doesn't mean that he's trying to rebel or something.
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#129 Sushiglutton
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I can fully understand why someone would find this game boring. No doubt it has a very slow pace. Personally I loved it though. When it comes to the TPS gameplay I think u can play the game in different ways, some may be easier but won't feel as satisfying. I personally found that auto aiming totally destroys the experience. I also think that dead eye should be used as little as possible. U don't want to have the habit of turning it on every time u face a group of enemies and then use snake oil to refill the meter. It's a lot more fun (and more difficult ofc) to play it "old school". Use the shotgun if u have trouble with accuracy. Also don't allow urself to stay behind the same cover for too long as it slows the pace and is less fun. Dead eye can still be real cool when ur facing like four enemies with ur revolver, so don't hesitate to use it when u feel like it, just don't overdo it. It's not only the games responsibility to make u have fun! There are several steps U can take on ur own to improve the experience !!!
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#130 Riverwolf007
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i loved rdr but can totally see if someone would not get into it.

people loved assassins creed 1 and it got action goty and i thought that game was terrible(not counting the platforming).

it just depends on what you are into.

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#131 speedfreak48t5p
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I was thinking about creating a topic about how much Fallout 3 sucked, but then I made an amazing discovery! I HAVE A BLOG!

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#132 Cr1m1nal_Slang
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I can see why it gets the praise it does, but I am not really into westerns and this game bored me to tears. I would like to play the zombie expansion though, that looks pretty sweet.
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#133 Lionheart08
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[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]If RDR is overrated, then i don't know what ME2 is... Mediocre shooter game-play, no effort in graphics.... Levels are ten minutes corridor shootouts where all you do is kill everything in your way in an extremely repetitive manner. The planet scanning is boring. Only thing it has for it is "cinematic talking" which i wasn't impresed with.jg4xchamp
replace planet scanning and the cinematic talk with piss poor writing, basic sandbox mission designs and you pretty much have similar flaws between the two of em. Both try to be tight action games, but both suffer from what is basic design issues. Though I don't understand why ME2 is being brought into this.

I think people are still upset that RDR is "stealing" ME2's awards. :P

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#134 yokofox33
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I didn't really enjoy it, but hey, that's just me. I can see why people like it though.

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#135 clone01
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we must have been playing two different games, because my RDR copy was exceptionally good.

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#136 devious742
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I loved every minute of RDR.. by far my favorite console game this gen..it belongs on my top ten list 8)

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#137 juliankennedy23
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="psn8214"]

... sort of like GTA:IV. I see a trend they need to work on.

psn8214

Actually give you a damn good reason to make you want to do the other stuff? yeah but I liked the cubed game in GTA 4.

Yeah. Admittedly I found the extras in GTA:IV a bit better, but neither had much redeeming value. It seems like wasted effort on their part.

Well it is hard to compete with a lapdance mini-game. :D

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#138 haziqonfire
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I'm not a fan of it either - Though I generally don't like anything RockStar makes.
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#139 mD-
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[QUOTE="Nike_Air"]

I'm debating whether I should play it or not. I didn't like GTA IV's sloppy shooting controls or main missions and if this follows that formula in a different setting , then it's not for me. Anyone help me out here? What's it like to actually play the game?

psn8214

It's exactly like GTA:IV in terms of controls. Personally, I thought the missions were boring as ****, although it is pretty.

RDRs controls are the same but all the movements are MUCH tighter and not as sloppy as when Niko runs around. The animations are definitely better too.
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#140 jg4xchamp
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[QUOTE="psn8214"]

[QUOTE="Nike_Air"]

I'm debating whether I should play it or not. I didn't like GTA IV's sloppy shooting controls or main missions and if this follows that formula in a different setting , then it's not for me. Anyone help me out here? What's it like to actually play the game?

mD-

It's exactly like GTA:IV in terms of controls. Personally, I thought the missions were boring as ****, although it is pretty.

RDRs controls are the same but all the movements are MUCH tighter and not as sloppy as when Niko runs around. The animations are definitely better too.

But it's not even close to being tight enough yet. Yes it's better than GTA 4 but Marstons movement is still far too stiff. Going from cover to cover isn't anywhere near as fluid as actual good cover shooters, and the gunplays entire saving grace is the feedback/death animations. Outside of that the movement and core mechanics are still clunky during the more intense firefights. It's the biggest reason why the multiplayer is complete garbage.
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#141 ZippySlappy
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I agree. It's a good game, just not that GOOD.
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#142 psn8214
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But it's not even close to being tight enough yet. Yes it's better than GTA 4 but Marstons movement is still far too stiff. Going from cover to cover isn't anywhere near as fluid as actual good cover shooters, and the gunplays entire saving grace is the feedback/death animations. Outside of that the movement and core mechanics are still clunky during the more intense firefights. It's the biggest reason why the multiplayer is complete garbage. jg4xchamp

You sum up my feelings on the game in an excellent manner. I personally hope for the next GTA they ditch the whole auto aim thing altogether. It takes a lot of the satisfaction out of killing dudes, although the death animations are pretty **** fantastic.

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#143 jg4xchamp
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"] But it's not even close to being tight enough yet. Yes it's better than GTA 4 but Marstons movement is still far too stiff. Going from cover to cover isn't anywhere near as fluid as actual good cover shooters, and the gunplays entire saving grace is the feedback/death animations. Outside of that the movement and core mechanics are still clunky during the more intense firefights. It's the biggest reason why the multiplayer is complete garbage. psn8214

You sum up my feelings on the game in an excellent manner. I personally hope for the next GTA they ditch the whole auto aim thing altogether. It takes a lot of the satisfaction out of killing dudes, although the death animations are pretty **** fantastic.

Yeah I'm sorry you like that turd Mafia 2. And that crap did everything RDR did wrong but ten million times worse. OH yeah, come at me bro :]
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#144 psn8214
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[QUOTE="psn8214"]

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"] But it's not even close to being tight enough yet. Yes it's better than GTA 4 but Marstons movement is still far too stiff. Going from cover to cover isn't anywhere near as fluid as actual good cover shooters, and the gunplays entire saving grace is the feedback/death animations. Outside of that the movement and core mechanics are still clunky during the more intense firefights. It's the biggest reason why the multiplayer is complete garbage. jg4xchamp

You sum up my feelings on the game in an excellent manner. I personally hope for the next GTA they ditch the whole auto aim thing altogether. It takes a lot of the satisfaction out of killing dudes, although the death animations are pretty **** fantastic.

Yeah I'm sorry you like that turd Mafia 2. And that crap did everything RDR did wrong but ten million times worse. OH yeah, come at me bro :]

Not going to come at you bro. I enjoyed Mafia II, but it had major issues. I think the setting, graphics and PhysX won that game over for me. I liked it, but I would never hold it up as a shining example of the genre and I daresay RD:R is better in a number of important aspects.

TL:DR, they both suck, but I happened to like Mafia II for whatever reason.

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#145 Teuf_
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Personally I thought it was boring as hell, but the people that love it seem to have legit reasons for feeling that way.

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#146 jman1553
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..and here comes the RDR hate. Sad. I don't understand why people feel it's necessary to hate on games that great critical reception. If this game got no GOTY nominations everyone would be praising how good it was and how biased the media is for only hyping up mainstream games like Halo and CoD.N7Espi
Because people are entitled to opinions.
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#147 jg4xchamp
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="psn8214"]

You sum up my feelings on the game in an excellent manner. I personally hope for the next GTA they ditch the whole auto aim thing altogether. It takes a lot of the satisfaction out of killing dudes, although the death animations are pretty **** fantastic.

psn8214

Yeah I'm sorry you like that turd Mafia 2. And that crap did everything RDR did wrong but ten million times worse. OH yeah, come at me bro :]

Not going to come at you bro. I enjoyed Mafia II, but it had major issues. I think the setting, graphics and PhysX won that game over for me. I liked it, but I would never hold it up as a shining example of the genre and I daresay RD:R is better in a number of important aspects.

TL:DR, they both suck, but I happened to like Mafia II for whatever reason.

Bad Taste, low standards, total forgiveness for all things awful like Mass Effect 2 and Avatar?

There is just a whole bunch of reasons one can come up with :]

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#148 psn8214
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Bad Taste, low standards, total forgiveness for all things awful like Mass Effect 2 and Avatar?


There is just a whole bunch of reasons one can come up with :]

jg4xchamp

... and Far Cry 2. If you want to pull this on me, you'd be remiss to not include that.

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#149 jg4xchamp
Member since 2006 • 64054 Posts

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Bad Taste, low standards, total forgiveness for all things awful like Mass Effect 2 and Avatar?


There is just a whole bunch of reasons one can come up with :]

psn8214

... and Far Cry 2. If you want to pull this on me, you'd be remiss to not include that.

You like Farcry 2.....why don't you just come out of the closet and admit you're Canadian.

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#150 psn8214
Member since 2009 • 14930 Posts

You like Farcry 2.....why don't you just come out of the closet and admit you're Canadian.

jg4xchamp

... because I don't have a deluded notion of self-importance? :o

[spoiler] ... kidding. Plus maple syrup is bomb. [/spoiler]