Redfall reviews leak, official review embargo set to lift today- GameSpot review 4/10

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#101  Edited By hardwenzen
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@ghosts4ever said:
@hardwenzen said:

lol i love how everyone is just waiting for the review to come out just to laugh at the game. years of wait, ton of delays, and this is where we're at with MS exclusives. If this keep happening, your Phil will leave for the same reasons Bonny Ross did😂😂😂

I already lost interest when they announced online only. After Dishonored, Prey and Deathloop. we got this. Borderlands like shit tier looter shooter coop game.

this is not Arkane game.

This is the new arkane games, the future of this developer. Look at what happened to RARE after they got acquired by MS. You will see the same thing happening to Arkane. Its sad, but the reality we live it.

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Lmao can’t wait for this to bomb for the lemming meltdowns

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@hardwenzen said:
@ghosts4ever said:
@hardwenzen said:

lol i love how everyone is just waiting for the review to come out just to laugh at the game. years of wait, ton of delays, and this is where we're at with MS exclusives. If this keep happening, your Phil will leave for the same reasons Bonny Ross did😂😂😂

I already lost interest when they announced online only. After Dishonored, Prey and Deathloop. we got this. Borderlands like shit tier looter shooter coop game.

this is not Arkane game.

This is the new arkane game, the future of this developer. Look at what happened to RARE after they got acquired by MS. You will see the same thing happening to Arkane. Its sad, but the reality we live it.

So no Dishonored 3? Prey 2? Deathloop 2?

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#104 above_average
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@above_average said:
@mysticaldonut said:

@above_average: I am not saying that PS3 games still don't look great today (they do and I know this as I regularly play them) but you can't say the lighting in Resistance 2 or Killzone 2 is better than the lighting in that Redfall clip in that tweet. Absolutely not

Shiiiid....

Muzzle flash, blood, character animations, bullets ejecting from the gun, physics how the random board falls behind enemy.

Show me something from Redfall that looks better...

Does Redfall even have proper reload animations?

Again, show me better in Redfall..

@mysticaldonut?

@anyone?

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#105 hardwenzen
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@ghosts4ever said:
@hardwenzen said:
@ghosts4ever said:
@hardwenzen said:

lol i love how everyone is just waiting for the review to come out just to laugh at the game. years of wait, ton of delays, and this is where we're at with MS exclusives. If this keep happening, your Phil will leave for the same reasons Bonny Ross did😂😂😂

I already lost interest when they announced online only. After Dishonored, Prey and Deathloop. we got this. Borderlands like shit tier looter shooter coop game.

this is not Arkane game.

This is the new arkane game, the future of this developer. Look at what happened to RARE after they got acquired by MS. You will see the same thing happening to Arkane. Its sad, but the reality we live it.

So no Dishonored 3? Prey 2? Deathloop 2?

Forget about that. Its all about a social experience that is "fun" for an hour at a time. Your immersive sims that you like, forget they ever existed, Arkane will never make one of those anymore.

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@hardwenzen said:
@ghosts4ever said:
@hardwenzen said:
@ghosts4ever said:
@hardwenzen said:

lol i love how everyone is just waiting for the review to come out just to laugh at the game. years of wait, ton of delays, and this is where we're at with MS exclusives. If this keep happening, your Phil will leave for the same reasons Bonny Ross did😂😂😂

I already lost interest when they announced online only. After Dishonored, Prey and Deathloop. we got this. Borderlands like shit tier looter shooter coop game.

this is not Arkane game.

This is the new arkane game, the future of this developer. Look at what happened to RARE after they got acquired by MS. You will see the same thing happening to Arkane. Its sad, but the reality we live it.

So no Dishonored 3? Prey 2? Deathloop 2?

Forget about that. Its all about a social experience that is "fun" for an hour at a time. Your immersive sims that you like, forget they ever existed, Arkane will never make one of those anymore.

All I hope they dont butcher Id software.

we will get Quake reboot.

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@ghosts4ever said:

So no Dishonored 3? Prey 2? Deathloop 2?

You really expect MS to invest into quality games? Under the Gamepass model?

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I personally think that Redfall bombed because of Phil Spencer meddling. The game was made with GaaS in mind, but due to backlash Phil as usual wants to save his ass ordered the team to focus on removing the MTX portion causing Arcane to shift focus.

I mean its great removing MTX but Xbox also should have delayed the game even at the cost of yet another barren year for Xbox. Gamepass exist to feed users with new contents while Xbox fix whatever it needs to fix.

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#109  Edited By above_average
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I personally think that Redfall bombed because of Phil Spencer meddling. The game was made with GaaS in mind, but due to backlash Phil as usual wants to save his ass ordered the team to focus on removing the MTX portion causing Arcane to shift focus.

I mean its great removing MTX but Xbox also should have delayed the game even at the cost of yet another barren year for Xbox. Gamepass exist to feed users with new contents while Xbox fix whatever it needs to fix.

They did the same shit way back in 2017 with Scalebound...

Went from a single player story focused JRPG..

To some 4 player co-op multiplayer game that MS refused to provide additional funds for..

Demanding MTX to be added caused the development team to need more time to develop but M$ didn't want to provide more funding...

That's why the game was cancelled and all Japaense devs outside of Capcom silently stopped wanting to work MS and only put their games on the system after they are old AF and when MS dropped an enormous bag to put them in Gamepass.

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Damn. Interest in this game sure is high. Got it pre-installed myself. Looking forward to seeing what all the fuss is about.

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#111  Edited By hardwenzen
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@ghosts4ever said:
@hardwenzen said:
@ghosts4ever said:
@hardwenzen said:

This is the new arkane game, the future of this developer. Look at what happened to RARE after they got acquired by MS. You will see the same thing happening to Arkane. Its sad, but the reality we live it.

So no Dishonored 3? Prey 2? Deathloop 2?

Forget about that. Its all about a social experience that is "fun" for an hour at a time. Your immersive sims that you like, forget they ever existed, Arkane will never make one of those anymore.

All I hope they dont butcher Id software.

we will get Quake reboot.

Hmm i am curious about what happens to ID myself. I think they have a strong enough spine to tell MS to gtfo if they want them to create some GaaS trash coop shooter.

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#112 robert_sparkes
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The more i see of redfall the less I've become interested to even try it.

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@girlusocrazy said:

MS doesn't deserve to charge $70

Nobody does.

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@ghosts4ever said:
@hardwenzen said:
@ghosts4ever said:
@hardwenzen said:

This is the new arkane game, the future of this developer. Look at what happened to RARE after they got acquired by MS. You will see the same thing happening to Arkane. Its sad, but the reality we live it.

So no Dishonored 3? Prey 2? Deathloop 2?

Forget about that. Its all about a social experience that is "fun" for an hour at a time. Your immersive sims that you like, forget they ever existed, Arkane will never make one of those anymore.

All I hope they dont butcher Id software.

we will get Quake reboot.

Oh, they will.

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@hardwenzen said:
@ghosts4ever said:
@hardwenzen said:
@ghosts4ever said:
@hardwenzen said:

This is the new arkane game, the future of this developer. Look at what happened to RARE after they got acquired by MS. You will see the same thing happening to Arkane. Its sad, but the reality we live it.

So no Dishonored 3? Prey 2? Deathloop 2?

Forget about that. Its all about a social experience that is "fun" for an hour at a time. Your immersive sims that you like, forget they ever existed, Arkane will never make one of those anymore.

All I hope they dont butcher Id software.

we will get Quake reboot.

Hmm i am curious about what happens to ID myself. I think they have a strong enough spine to tell MS to gtfo if they want them to create some GaaS trash coop shooter.

Id are bigger than MS. they dont want to tranish thier legacy.

even under bethesda they said no to MTX and other stuff. and create 2 of greatest FPS of all time Doom and Doom Eternal.

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#117 Antwan3K
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as an Arkane fan, i'm looking forward RedFall.. there's no denying the negative PR buzz around the game though.. i definitely wouldn't be surprised by a 6/10 from 6Spot..

that said, i'll be playing tomorrow via Game Pass to decide for myself.. 🤷‍♂️

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Is there a single MS studios game that's not currently in development hell, or isn't the crappy remains of what came out of development hell?

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#119  Edited By above_average
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Love it or hate it...

😅 Redfall is going to give everyone a wealth of entertainment

EDIT:

Oh, and @mysticaldonut, you said what about Killzone 2 not having better what than what compared to Redfall again???

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#120  Edited By deactivated-654dc0d1e0e5b
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@templecow90999 said:

Is there a single MS studios game that's not currently in development hell, or isn't the crappy remains of what came out of development hell?

Forza and Horizon are nearly perfect when launched

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#121  Edited By deactivated-67913f01c3174
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@theam0g said:
@templecow90999 said:

Is there a single MS studios game that's not currently in development hell, or isn't the crappy remains of what came out of development hell?

Forza and Horizon are nearly perfect when launched

As was the most recently release Hi-Fi Rush and Pentiment. Is there a single PS studios game that isn't in development hell? There is a reason it's known as the DelayStation.

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Wasn't Phil Spencer saying like a year or so ago basically "we have so many studios we have no idea how we're going to space all the games out"

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@kvallyx said:
@girlusocrazy said:

MS doesn't deserve to charge $70

Nobody does.

Wrong

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@templecow90999 said:

Wasn't Phil Spencer saying like a year or so ago basically "we have so many studios we have no idea how we're going to space all the games out"

Yes. He’s a pathological liar. First time hearing about him lol?

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Lmao! Now Lems are calling GameSpot, 6spot in preparation for the review dropping?!?!

I ALMOST feel bad for y’all. Almost…

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How can Xbox have so few bright spots in like 10 years?

Ones I can think of:

Minecraft acquisition was a good call for them- paid off for sure

Cuphead

Ori 1 and 2

Forza Horizon 3 4 and 5

Gamepass is cool and a good price if there are games on there you want to play

Is that really it?????

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The hate for this game is like an echo chamber for Sony fannies.😂

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@Pedro said:

The hate for this game is like an echo chamber for Sony fannies.😂

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@templecow90999 said:

Wasn't Phil Spencer saying like a year or so ago basically "we have so many studios we have no idea how we're going to space all the games out"

lol what Phil Spencer said like a year ago...

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@randy_lahey said:
@kvallyx said:
@girlusocrazy said:

MS doesn't deserve to charge $70

Nobody does.

Wrong

I am NEVER wrong. I am perfect!

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lets goo!!! 10/10 heck yeah!

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@kvallyx said:
@randy_lahey said:
@kvallyx said:
@girlusocrazy said:

MS doesn't deserve to charge $70

Nobody does.

Wrong

I am NEVER wrong. I am perfect!

The only correct thing you've ever done in life is get a PS5. Everything else has been a mistake. I hope PS5 can teach you the error of you ways.

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@above_average said:
@kvallyx said:
@randy_lahey said:
@kvallyx said:
@girlusocrazy said:

MS doesn't deserve to charge $70

Nobody does.

Wrong

I am NEVER wrong. I am perfect!

The only correct thing you've ever done in life is get a PS5. Everything else has been a mistake. I hope PS5 can teach you the error of you ways.

No, I have also masturbated more than anyone on earth, combined.

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@kvallyx said:
@above_average said:
@kvallyx said:
@randy_lahey said:
@kvallyx said:

Nobody does.

Wrong

I am NEVER wrong. I am perfect!

The only correct thing you've ever done in life is get a PS5. Everything else has been a mistake. I hope PS5 can teach you the error of you ways.

No, I have also masturbated more than anyone on earth, combined.

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@above_average said:
@templecow90999 said:

Wasn't Phil Spencer saying like a year or so ago basically "we have so many studios we have no idea how we're going to space all the games out"

lol what Phil Spencer said like a year ago...

LOL

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@Pedro said:

The hate for this game is like an echo chamber for Sony fannies.😂

fairly easy to have an echo chamber when 3 alts (and an alt of an alt) are continuously having a mad cow stampede over all things Xbox..

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@Antwan3K: They make up most of the comments 😂

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#139 DaVillain  Moderator
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Are we sure Redfall is stable enough for a good launch? I hope the animation isn't broken. As long as the PC version is legit good, I'll be fine.

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#140 MysticalDonut
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@above_average: work got busy, then I hit the gym and grabbed some lunch.

I still say there's no way in hell that MS could release a game in 2023 that looks worse than a PS3 title. Based on gameplay I have seen so far the lighting looks good. Animations look subpar and graphics are meh but the lighting is nice.

More importantly, have you played the first Motorstorm recently. It's voodoo magic how good that game still looks and feels to play today.

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@Pedro said:

@Antwan3K: They make up most of the comments 😂

Lmao! No Pedro, YOU make up most of the comments lol.

And you’re gonna be busy this evening… Good luck

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#142  Edited By above_average
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Remember that nobody that everyone in the thread wrote off....

Jesus, Arkane literally used a quote from that dudes review in their offical marketing flyer

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@davillain: Haven't seen floating animations like that since PUBG lol good times.

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@ghostofgolden said:
@Pedro said:

@Antwan3K: They make up most of the comments 😂

Lmao! No Pedro, YOU make up most of the comments lol.

And you’re gonna be busy this evening… Good luck

To be fair I think he's left two comments in this entire thread of 140+ comments.

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@above_average: wow, now that's irony lol

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Okay, maybe this game isn't gonna do so well if Opencritic is being sassy about it

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This game will increase game pass sub another Xbox Win sorry ponies!!

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@ghostofgolden said:
@Pedro said:

@Antwan3K: They make up most of the comments 😂

Lmao! No Pedro, YOU make up most of the comments lol.

And you’re gonna be busy this evening… Good luck

When one my haters are correcting you on the accuracy of my posting, you are not in a good spot.😂

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@BenjaminBanklin said:

Okay, maybe this game isn't gonna do so well if Opencritic is being sassy about it

lol We're back to Halo Infinite Craig levels of clownage when even Dominoes was taking a swipe at Microsoft for their trash 1st party showing of their only "NEXT GEN" AAA title

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#150  Edited By Antwan3K
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@Pedro said:
@ghostofgolden said:
@Pedro said:

@Antwan3K: They make up most of the comments 😂

Lmao! No Pedro, YOU make up most of the comments lol.

And you’re gonna be busy this evening… Good luck

When one my haters are correcting you on the accuracy of my posting, you are not in a good spot.😂

he clearly doesn't read or fact-check anything he says anymore.. this 3rd account exists just to blindly hate post on Xbox, Game Pass, and "lems"..

so sad.. such a far fall for the former self-proclaimed "unbiased voice of System Wars"..