Resident evil 4 still great

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I just can't play it anymore.

MirkoS77

You and me both:lol:

RE4 was a million times better than RE5. RE4 still had some hints of old school RE in it. RE5 was Rambo simulator.

I beat RE4 probably 50 times on the GC and am now playing it again on my 360. I beat RE5 once and never touched it again.

I am hoping that RE6 goes back to its roots and gives us a SURVIVAL HORROR RE GAME.

One of my all time favorites. I can't wait until I can get it but only 4GB of HDD space at school :(

Survival Horror used to be a close relative of the adventure game and that's how I prefered it. Too many shooters and RE 4 led to RE 5 which was nothing but another horde mode shooter.

I've played one too many shooters. For that reason Code Veronica has been a lot more fun. Lining up those old school shots and hording ammo has been a blast so far.

I'm not going to try to argue with whoever quoted me, saying Resident Evil 5 was a game of 4s caliber. Or whoever said Dead Space is too. This is what I will say. Those games, mechanically were superior, on a technical level it they are superior but in terms of pure level design and tension I do believe in all honestly that 4 is one of the greatest games ever and surpasses those two games by a friggin mile.

This is my opinion, I've finished 5 and honestly could not even bother finishing Dead Space. I'm not bagging those games, they are good in their own right but 4 is on another level.

It was never great. Just a third person shooter with an identity crisis.foxhound_fox

I don't get it. How does it have an identity crisis?

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]It was never great. Just a third person shooter with an identity crisis.greenskittles

I don't get it. How does it have an identity crisis?

It's really neither here nor there. It is a survival horror or a shooter? The first half the game it's not sure. By the second half, and for five, it was a shooter. Too bad, so much more can be done with online co-op especially. Just another game with players in different skins. No character.

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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]It was never great. Just a third person shooter with an identity crisis.Kiyobear

I don't get it. How does it have an identity crisis?

It's really neither here nor there. It is a survival horror or a shooter? The first half the game it's not sure. By the second half, and for five, it was a shooter. Too bad, so much more can be done with online co-op especially. Just another game with players in different skins. No character.

Does it matter in the end? It doesn't stop 4 from being a great game. One of my favourite series this generation has an "identity crisis" you could say, that being Mass Effect, and it doesn't stop that series from being loved my millions. Is that a shooter, an RPG, dating sim? Who cares, Mass Effect 1, especially 2 are considered masterpieces.

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I don't get it. How does it have an identity crisis?

greenskittles

It's really neither here nor there. It is a survival horror or a shooter? The first half the game it's not sure. By the second half, and for five, it was a shooter. Too bad, so much more can be done with online co-op especially. Just another game with players in different skins. No character.

Does it matter in the end? It doesn't stop 4 from being a great game. One of my favourite series this generation has an "identity crisis" you could say, that being Mass Effect, and it doesn't stop that series from being loved my millions. Is that a shooter, an RPG, dating sim? Who cares, Mass Effect 1, especially 2 are considered masterpieces.

It matters to me. I love shooters, I truly do, but having so many games just become another shooter makes me sad. I loved the old school adventure game-play and the RE Outbreak games had so much potential. Sadly, people want to exploit games more then play them.

Even Silent Hill added a gun merchant this generation. I really like Dead Space for what it is but I miss survival horror. RE had a good run but I've played so many shooters; and online co-op loses game-play and character in favor ofdead give aways.

Take cover and go for the headshot has gotten really boring.

I don't get it. How does it have an identity crisis?greenskittles

Kiyobear

It matters to me. I love shooters, I truly do, but having so many games just become another shooter makes me sad. I loved the old school adventure game-play and the RE Outbreak games had so much potential. Sadly, people want to exploit games more then play them.

Even Silent Hill added a gun merchant this generation. I really like Dead Space for what it is but I miss survival horror. RE had a good run but I've played so many shooters; and online co-op loses game-play and character in favor ofdead give aways.

Take cover and go for the headshot has gotten really boring.

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My point is strictly on Resident Evil 4 so I'm not entirely sure why you are bringing up cover mechanics which that game did not employ or co-op gameplay.

Anyhow I think I understand your point somewhat, you are saying 4 ushered in a bunch of games which cloned the staple gameplay of it and you want pure survival horror back?

It's not 4s fault that their are so many designers copy it's formula (I'd even argue level design wise 4 does it better) but it truly isn't but it does go to show you 4s caliber as a game in the grand scheme today. It shows youhow even game designers drew inspiration from that game and implemented various features and mechanics into their game, a true testimate to Resident Evil 4s quality that so many people are willing to copy it.

It was never great. Just a third person shooter with an identity crisis.foxhound_fox

C'mon now, the formula was growing to be hella stale with those other titles, it needed RE4 bigtime.

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]It was never great. Just a third person shooter with an identity crisis.Lucianu

C'mon now, the formula was growing to be hella stale with those other titles, it needed RE4 bigtime.

Cant you say the same about 4 and 5 though?! The Formula got stale. The franchise needs to create 2 different titles from ORC for the Run N Gun fans and Revelations for the Old School Fans.

[QUOTE="greenskittles"]I don't get it. How does it have an identity crisis?foxhound_fox

So your saying it didn't feel like past games? That's fine but those games don't just define the series, 4 should too. Try playing Code Veronica today, the gameplay there is out of style.

Lastly I don't know what you mean that ammo is everywhere, it get's very sparce in many sections of the game where you are forced to use your knife because you don't have anymore bullets.

That's fine but those games don't just define the series, 4 should too. greenskittles

[QUOTE="greenskittles"]That's fine but those games don't just define the series, 4 should too. foxhound_fox

There's no reason it could not have been aside from the fact that, many felt that series needed something new and 4 was the answer. It might not have been the answer you wanted but it was an answer that resonated with MANY people.

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[QUOTE="greenskittles"]That's fine but those games don't just define the series, 4 should too. greenskittles

There's no reason it could not have been aside from the fact that, many felt that series needed something new and 4 was the answer. It might not have been the answer you wanted but it was an answer that resonated with MANY people.

Because those people no longer wanted to play an "RE" game. It's not really an "answer" in terms of providing something new for RE, because it's not built off of RE. In fact, it's design is generally in the complete opposite in terms of RE.

You know what brought something new? REmake. Burning zombies was the most important change the series had ever seen. RE gameplay had plenty of potential to improve.

people who say otherwise just can't stand progress.princeofshapeir

I never liked the other Resident Evil games before RE4. They weren't scary, the gameplay was horrid, and the voice acting was god-awful. RE4 is easily the best game in the series and people who say otherwise just can't stand progress.princeofshapeir

Progress means you have to start from the point you're supposedly "progressing" from.

[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"]people who say otherwise just can't stand progress.foxhound_fox

I don't think the changes in RE4 were this small, even in the story. How about how they ended an unresolved story with a voiceover in the first five minutes of the game?

Good game but very overrated.

Good game but very overrated.

princemarth23

take the time machine back to 2005....nothing compared to it. :) soapandbubbles

[QUOTE="soapandbubbles"]take the time machine back to 2005....nothing compared to it. :) foxhound_fox

I never liked the other Resident Evil games before RE4. They weren't scary, the gameplay was horrid, and the voice acting was god-awful. RE4 is easily the best game in the series and people who say otherwise just can't stand progress.princeofshapeir

No some people who dont count it as the best dont like it not cause of progress no its because it doesint feel like a RE game. RE4 has zero atmosphere and is more of a shooter then a survival horror game. Hell they even gave the enimies guns. What were they smoking when they thought of that. I still say REmake is proboly the last best RE game from memory imo.

They redid it in HD reso and couldn't even bother to redo the controls so it can be played with action controls (triggers to aim and shoot) Capcom sure do suck! soapandbubbles

In terms of surival horror...SURE, but overall RE4 is MUCH better, IMO. Characters, story, design...etc soapandbubbles

[QUOTE="soapandbubbles"]They redid it in HD reso and couldn't even bother to redo the controls so it can be played with action controls (triggers to aim and shoot) Capcom sure do suck! timmy00

[QUOTE="soapandbubbles"]In terms of surival horror...SURE, but overall RE4 is MUCH better, IMO. Characters, story, design...etc foxhound_fox

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="soapandbubbles"]take the time machine back to 2005....nothing compared to it. :) soapandbubbles

I would strongly disagree with these. As for design, maybe a bit. But only in the sense that RE4 is more approachable in terms of what it's trying to do.

[QUOTE="soapandbubbles"]In terms of surival horror...SURE, but overall RE4 is MUCH better, IMO. Characters, story, design...etc foxhound_fox

I thought they ruined Leon and Ada. :( I felt that they were more complex characters in RE2.

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[QUOTE="soapandbubbles"]They redid it in HD reso and couldn't even bother to redo the controls so it can be played with action controls (triggers to aim and shoot) Capcom sure do suck! soapandbubbles

You can aim with the left trigger and shoot with the right. You can also use your knife with the left bumper and right trigger.