Resistance has been out for 2 years while its sequel has been out for nearly 2 months. Resistance was one of the few good games back then contrary to the great amount of titles currently out. It'll sell well but I don't know if it'll outsell the original. I like both of them, Resistance had the SP while Resistance 2 has the better online. Mongo-BossResistance was the oasis in the desert of good games back in the early days of PS3- thus sales were high. now there's a much wider selection of quality titles on PS3.
Resistance 2 a failure compared to Resistance in terms of sales
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[QUOTE="odin2019"][QUOTE="IIJuggaNottII"]Bu Bu Bu But its a great game. IIJuggaNottII
I'm not saying that it isn't a great a game but it simply is not good enough thus sales reflect. Its just too bad they really didn't make more use of the money they made from Resistance becuase now they won't make near as much.
Well ummmm, I dont think its a great game but is GENERIC at best. It sold what it should, the sales match how good the game was. Lack Luster, boring, forgetable.....but it has smoooooth controls and GREAT weapons.
SO your saying cause YOU think its generic that it should only make these type of sales? Also are you trying to play the sales=great game. If so its total BS and you know it and dont try to twist your way out of this since thats what your basicly saying. Hell I bolded it.
[QUOTE="IIJuggaNottII"][QUOTE="odin2019"]I'm not saying that it isn't a great a game but it simply is not good enough thus sales reflect. Its just too bad they really didn't make more use of the money they made from Resistance becuase now they won't make near as much.
Blazerdt47
Well ummmm, I dont think its a great game but is GENERIC at best. It sold what it should, the sales match how good the game was. Lack Luster, boring, forgetable.....but it has smoooooth controls and GREAT weapons.
What? So you mean GeOW sold millions because it was a great game? Because it wasn't. The only reason it sold what it did was because the 360 had no games at the time and all of a sudden Gears comes along with CASUAL written all over it. Same goes for Halo.So Gears 2 sold well because it wasn't a good game and the 360 had no games? :|I wonder what the first Gears of War was...Of course all those people weren't online because it was fun...Nah that's absurd!
[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="munu9"] Why is it that basically every credible reviews I've read says different? :?heretrixbecause they liked it? I understand that opinions differ. lots of sites also gave R1 AAA recognition. If I had a vote, it would have gotten an 7.5-8.0. so again, I'm not very big on the series in the first place. I think I'll get Valkyria Chronicles (where I'm more confident I'll enjoy myself) and pick up R2 when it's in someone's bargain bin or something.After playing both games, I'd take Valkyria Chronicles over R2 any day of the week.. Your suspisions are completely warranted. just got VC. party on.
It is possible of the 3.5 million people who had bought Resistance 1 two years ago, decided to buy a X360. Resistance 2 may not be doing all that well because alot of people decided to switch to the Xbox 360 as their main gaming platform. Jd1680a
Quite the assumption. One that cannot be proven nor disproven in any way. Simple fact is R2 has hit 1 million quicker than R1. Just as Resistance 1's sales picked up, Resistance 2's will.
how about we wait untill resistance 2 has been around as long as rfom has. at least a year please. it came out at a very crowded time, i expect the sales to continuously rise. ronniepage588Resistance 2 will die when KillZone 2 comes out.
[QUOTE="Jd1680a"]It is possible of the 3.5 million people who had bought Resistance 1 two years ago, decided to buy a X360. Resistance 2 may not be doing all that well because alot of people decided to switch to the Xbox 360 as their main gaming platform. Puckhog04
Quite the assumption. One that cannot be proven nor disproven in any way. Simple fact is R2 has hit 1 million quicker than R1. Just as Resistance 1's sales picked up, Resistance 2's will.
No, they won't. How many months until KillZone 2 drops? that's how much longer Resistance 2 has to remain relevant. and it's certainly not a surprise R2 got to a million faster than R1. the userbase is about 14x larger than it was back then. proportionally, it hasn't sold nearly as well. but I'm sure that wasn't an expectation anyway.[QUOTE="ronniepage588"]how about we wait untill resistance 2 has been around as long as rfom has. at least a year please. it came out at a very crowded time, i expect the sales to continuously rise. Dreams-VisionsResistance 2 will die when KillZone 2 comes out.
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Hey, whatever helps you feel better man. If you honestly believe that considering the huge amount of players that played/play Resistance online then you are very ignorant.
Resistance 2 will die when KillZone 2 comes out.[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="ronniepage588"]how about we wait untill resistance 2 has been around as long as rfom has. at least a year please. it came out at a very crowded time, i expect the sales to continuously rise. Puckhog04
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Hey, whatever helps you feel better man. If you honestly believe that considering the huge amount of players that played/play Resistance online then you are very ignorant.
True. Resistance 2 will DEFINITELY have better multiplayer than KZ2. KZ2's multiplayer looks great, I'll say, but R2's co-op and 60 player online will still be dominant.Resistance 2 will die when KillZone 2 comes out.[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="ronniepage588"]how about we wait untill resistance 2 has been around as long as rfom has. at least a year please. it came out at a very crowded time, i expect the sales to continuously rise. Puckhog04
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Hey, whatever helps you feel better man. If you honestly believe that considering the huge amount of players that played/play Resistance online then you are very ignorant.
i can not believe you just called adrian.dreams visions out like that.....wtf is wrong with you, he is a legend
[QUOTE="odin2019"][QUOTE="IIJuggaNottII"]Bu Bu Bu But its a great game. IIJuggaNottII
I'm not saying that it isn't a great a game but it simply is not good enough thus sales reflect. Its just too bad they really didn't make more use of the money they made from Resistance becuase now they won't make near as much.
Well ummmm, I dont think its a great game but is GENERIC at best. It sold what it should, the sales match how good the game was. Lack Luster, boring, forgetable.....but it has smoooooth controls and GREAT weapons.
Sales don't always translate into the quality of games. Kane and Lynch sold a mil, but VC is selling like crap. There are countless other examples. I'm not discounting your opinion though, although I completely disagree. Also, Resistance 1 was a launch title among other ok to lackluster launch-window releases (the opposite of R2). And it didn't sell 3.5 mil in a month. Still, I'm disappointed with R2's sales. This game deserves to be played by way more people. PS3 games really seem to have long legs though, so hopefully sales keep chugging along.[QUOTE="Puckhog04"][QUOTE="Jd1680a"]It is possible of the 3.5 million people who had bought Resistance 1 two years ago, decided to buy a X360. Resistance 2 may not be doing all that well because alot of people decided to switch to the Xbox 360 as their main gaming platform. Dreams-Visions
Quite the assumption. One that cannot be proven nor disproven in any way. Simple fact is R2 has hit 1 million quicker than R1. Just as Resistance 1's sales picked up, Resistance 2's will.
No, they won't. How many months until KillZone 2 drops? that's how much longer Resistance 2 has to remain relevant. and it's certainly not a surprise R2 got to a million faster than R1. the userbase is about 14x larger than it was back then. proportionally, it hasn't sold nearly as well. but I'm sure that wasn't an expectation anyway.Do you have proof of this? You don't? Ok then, like i said in my last response, if that makes you feel better then go for it. Utnil we get to that moment where it can be proven then you are just spewing nothing based on nothing. Resistance 2 hasn't even been out for 2 months. Honestly, comparing a game (based on sales) that's been out for over 2 years to a game that hasn't even been out for 2 months is just desperation on the part of the person making the comparison.
And i suppose Gears of War 2 stopped all the players from playing CoD4, CoDWaW, Halo 3, L4D, Rainbow Six Vegas 2, TF2, etc. on the 360 as well, right? No? Oh yea, Gears 2 didn't stop those games from having tons of users playing online. There's still enormous amounts of people playing all the games i mentioned. Hell, there's still PDZ servers up (yes, i was surprised as well). You have zero base for any of your assumptions. There are over 10 million users on PSN. More than enough to go around. Warhawk and all the older games still have tons of users playing online.
[QUOTE="Puckhog04"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"] Resistance 2 will die when KillZone 2 comes out.rofflecopter_
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Hey, whatever helps you feel better man. If you honestly believe that considering the huge amount of players that played/play Resistance online then you are very ignorant.
i can not believe you just called adrian.dreams visions out like that.....wtf is wrong with you, he is a legendA Legend on a videogames forum? :shock: I hope i can get his autograph before he leaves...such an amazing day to meet such a legend. :|
Are you serious? :|
It sold what it should, the sales match how good the game was.IIJuggaNottII
Could that assumption be anymore simplistic?
Quality is not conducive to sales.
[QUOTE="Puckhog04"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"] Resistance 2 will die when KillZone 2 comes out.rofflecopter_
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Hey, whatever helps you feel better man. If you honestly believe that considering the huge amount of players that played/play Resistance online then you are very ignorant.
i can not believe you just called adrian.dreams visions out like that.....wtf is wrong with you, he is a legendI seriously hope you are being sarcastic.
[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="Puckhog04"]No, they won't. How many months until KillZone 2 drops? that's how much longer Resistance 2 has to remain relevant. and it's certainly not a surprise R2 got to a million faster than R1. the userbase is about 14x larger than it was back then. proportionally, it hasn't sold nearly as well. but I'm sure that wasn't an expectation anyway.Quite the assumption. One that cannot be proven nor disproven in any way. Simple fact is R2 has hit 1 million quicker than R1. Just as Resistance 1's sales picked up, Resistance 2's will.
Puckhog04
Do you have proof of this? You don't? Ok then, like i said in my last response, if that makes you feel better then go for it. Utnil we get to that moment where it can be proven then you are just spewing nothing based on nothing. Resistance 2 hasn't even been out for 2 months. Honestly, comparing a game (based on sales) that's been out for over 2 years to a game that hasn't even been out for 2 months is just desperation on the part of the person making the comparison.
And i suppose Gears of War 2 stopped all the players from playing L4D, Rainbow Six Vegas 2, TF2, etc. on the 360 as well, right? No? Oh yea, Gears 2 didn't stop those games from having users playing online. There's still enormous amounts of people playing all the games i mentioned. Hell, there's still PDZ servers up (yes, i was surprised as well). You have zero base for any of your assumptions.
do I have proof of what? Resistance 2 falling off in the wake of KillZone 2? No crystal ball. Only conjecture. I think people will find BETTER (read: not DIFFERENT, which would provide a symbiotic, complimentary relationship like a Halo3/CoD4/Bioshock do) and move along. Something like what happened with Unreal Tournament 3.KillZone 2 will take ovah. I'd put money on it, were I a betting man.
[QUOTE="rofflecopter_"][QUOTE="Puckhog04"]i can not believe you just called adrian.dreams visions out like that.....wtf is wrong with you, he is a legend:lol:
Hey, whatever helps you feel better man. If you honestly believe that considering the huge amount of players that played/play Resistance online then you are very ignorant.
Puckhog04
A Legend on a videogames forum? :shock: I hope i can get his autograph before he leaves...such an amazing day to meet such a legend. :|
Are you serious? :|
what's wrong with you guys? I'm just going by the mood of the people playing the game that I've encountered. It reminds me a bit of what happened to UT3. I think the people will move towards higher ground. A general sense of disappointment can become toxic. Ask Epic (UT3).I simply think KillZone 2 will be that higher ground, if the testimonies of those in the Beta are any indication. no need for you to get your panties in a bunch.
[QUOTE="Puckhog04"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"] No, they won't. How many months until KillZone 2 drops? that's how much longer Resistance 2 has to remain relevant. and it's certainly not a surprise R2 got to a million faster than R1. the userbase is about 14x larger than it was back then. proportionally, it hasn't sold nearly as well. but I'm sure that wasn't an expectation anyway.Dreams-Visions
Do you have proof of this? You don't? Ok then, like i said in my last response, if that makes you feel better then go for it. Utnil we get to that moment where it can be proven then you are just spewing nothing based on nothing. Resistance 2 hasn't even been out for 2 months. Honestly, comparing a game (based on sales) that's been out for over 2 years to a game that hasn't even been out for 2 months is just desperation on the part of the person making the comparison.
And i suppose Gears of War 2 stopped all the players from playing L4D, Rainbow Six Vegas 2, TF2, etc. on the 360 as well, right? No? Oh yea, Gears 2 didn't stop those games from having users playing online. There's still enormous amounts of people playing all the games i mentioned. Hell, there's still PDZ servers up (yes, i was surprised as well). You have zero base for any of your assumptions.
do I have proof of what? Resistance 2 falling off in the wake of KillZone 2? No crystal ball. Only conjecture. I think people will find BETTER (read: not DIFFERENT, which would provide a symbiotic, complimentary relationship like a Halo3/CoD4/Bioshock do) and move along. Something like what happened with Unreal Tournament 3.KillZone 2 will take ovah. I'd put money on it, were I a betting man.
I think R2 and KZ2 offer more than enough originality to co-exist in the online activity bracket (like many other XBL and PSN games). They both also have conventional and robust off-line experiences that can further contribute to sales continuing respectively. PS3 owners got tired of UT3 before R2 was even announced lol.[QUOTE="Puckhog04"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"] No, they won't. How many months until KillZone 2 drops? that's how much longer Resistance 2 has to remain relevant. and it's certainly not a surprise R2 got to a million faster than R1. the userbase is about 14x larger than it was back then. proportionally, it hasn't sold nearly as well. but I'm sure that wasn't an expectation anyway.Dreams-Visions
Do you have proof of this? You don't? Ok then, like i said in my last response, if that makes you feel better then go for it. Utnil we get to that moment where it can be proven then you are just spewing nothing based on nothing. Resistance 2 hasn't even been out for 2 months. Honestly, comparing a game (based on sales) that's been out for over 2 years to a game that hasn't even been out for 2 months is just desperation on the part of the person making the comparison.
And i suppose Gears of War 2 stopped all the players from playing L4D, Rainbow Six Vegas 2, TF2, etc. on the 360 as well, right? No? Oh yea, Gears 2 didn't stop those games from having users playing online. There's still enormous amounts of people playing all the games i mentioned. Hell, there's still PDZ servers up (yes, i was surprised as well). You have zero base for any of your assumptions.
do I have proof of what? Resistance 2 falling off in the wake of KillZone 2? No crystal ball. Only conjecture. I think people will find BETTER (read: not DIFFERENT, which would provide a symbiotic, complimentary relationship like a Halo3/CoD4/Bioshock do) and move along. Something like what happened with Unreal Tournament 3.KillZone 2 will take ovah. I'd put money on it, were I a betting man.
Falling off? It's obvious you have not seen Resistance 2's servers online. :lol:
I'm sorry, you're so laughable it's ridiculous. Resistance 2's sales have been growing since release and they will keep growing just as the first one's did. Sure, Killzone 2 will get some users. But all? You make it sound as if all R2 users will move to Killzone 2 and never play Resistance 2 online again. If you believe this then there is zero hope for you. You honestly have never seen the amount of R2 servers, have you...
Makes your argument even more laughable. There's over 10 million PSN accounts playing online (at last count). You're very delusional if you think Resistance 2's online players are going to just vanish into thin air. Warhawk and all the old titles still have tons of players. Hell, there's still people playing CS on Xbox Live (yes, the original Xbox). No, i'm not kidding about that. I think you really underestimate the numbers. There's plenty to go around and go around it does. If you put your money on it you'd lose that money. Luckily you're not a betting man.
[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="Puckhog04"]do I have proof of what? Resistance 2 falling off in the wake of KillZone 2? No crystal ball. Only conjecture. I think people will find BETTER (read: not DIFFERENT, which would provide a symbiotic, complimentary relationship like a Halo3/CoD4/Bioshock do) and move along. Something like what happened with Unreal Tournament 3.Do you have proof of this? You don't? Ok then, like i said in my last response, if that makes you feel better then go for it. Utnil we get to that moment where it can be proven then you are just spewing nothing based on nothing. Resistance 2 hasn't even been out for 2 months. Honestly, comparing a game (based on sales) that's been out for over 2 years to a game that hasn't even been out for 2 months is just desperation on the part of the person making the comparison.
And i suppose Gears of War 2 stopped all the players from playing L4D, Rainbow Six Vegas 2, TF2, etc. on the 360 as well, right? No? Oh yea, Gears 2 didn't stop those games from having users playing online. There's still enormous amounts of people playing all the games i mentioned. Hell, there's still PDZ servers up (yes, i was surprised as well). You have zero base for any of your assumptions.
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KillZone 2 will take ovah. I'd put money on it, were I a betting man.
I think R2 and KZ2 offer more than enough originality to co-exist in the online activity bracket (like many other XBL and PSN games). They both also have conventional and robust off-line experiences that can further contribute to sales continuing respectively. PS3 owners got tired of UT3 before R2 was even announced lol.The sad part of his comparision is that UT3 still has a lot of PSN players playing online from day to day. So he basically proved himself wrong.
[QUOTE="Puckhog04"][QUOTE="rofflecopter_"]i can not believe you just called adrian.dreams visions out like that.....wtf is wrong with you, he is a legendDreams-Visions
A Legend on a videogames forum? :shock: I hope i can get his autograph before he leaves...such an amazing day to meet such a legend. :|
Are you serious? :|
what's wrong with you guys? I'm just going by the mood of the people playing the game that I've encountered. It reminds me a bit of what happened to UT3. I think the people will move towards higher ground. A general sense of disappointment can become toxic. Ask Epic (UT3).I simply think KillZone 2 will be that higher ground, if the testimonies of those in the Beta are any indication. no need for you to get your panties in a bunch.
You're unrealistic to an extreme. I'm simply showing how irrational and stupid your argument is. If you have actually seen the amount of R2 servers up you'd know just how stupid and irrational your argument is. Simple fact is, Resistance 2 has more than enough players (just as most online games do on PSN and XBL) to have tons of players playing online for a long time to come. Resistance 2 is no different. I don't doubt for a second the Killzone 2 is great but you're generalizations are just unrealistic.
[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="Puckhog04"]do I have proof of what? Resistance 2 falling off in the wake of KillZone 2? No crystal ball. Only conjecture. I think people will find BETTER (read: not DIFFERENT, which would provide a symbiotic, complimentary relationship like a Halo3/CoD4/Bioshock do) and move along. Something like what happened with Unreal Tournament 3.Do you have proof of this? You don't? Ok then, like i said in my last response, if that makes you feel better then go for it. Utnil we get to that moment where it can be proven then you are just spewing nothing based on nothing. Resistance 2 hasn't even been out for 2 months. Honestly, comparing a game (based on sales) that's been out for over 2 years to a game that hasn't even been out for 2 months is just desperation on the part of the person making the comparison.
And i suppose Gears of War 2 stopped all the players from playing L4D, Rainbow Six Vegas 2, TF2, etc. on the 360 as well, right? No? Oh yea, Gears 2 didn't stop those games from having users playing online. There's still enormous amounts of people playing all the games i mentioned. Hell, there's still PDZ servers up (yes, i was surprised as well). You have zero base for any of your assumptions.
Puckhog04
KillZone 2 will take ovah. I'd put money on it, were I a betting man.
I think R2 and KZ2 offer more than enough originality to co-exist in the online activity bracket (like many other XBL and PSN games). They both also have conventional and robust off-line experiences that can further contribute to sales continuing respectively. PS3 owners got tired of UT3 before R2 was even announced lol. the people I talk to are already tired of Resistance 2.[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="Puckhog04"]what's wrong with you guys? I'm just going by the mood of the people playing the game that I've encountered. It reminds me a bit of what happened to UT3. I think the people will move towards higher ground. A general sense of disappointment can become toxic. Ask Epic (UT3).A Legend on a videogames forum? :shock: I hope i can get his autograph before he leaves...such an amazing day to meet such a legend. :|
Are you serious? :|
Puckhog04
I simply think KillZone 2 will be that higher ground, if the testimonies of those in the Beta are any indication. no need for you to get your panties in a bunch.
You're unrealistic to an extreme. I'm fine, simply showing how irrational and stupid your argument is. If you have actually seen the amount of R2 servers up you'd know just how stupid and irrational your argument is. Simple fact is, Resistance 2 has more than enough players (just as most online games do on PSN and XBL) to have tons of players playing online for a long time to come. Resistance 2 is no different. I don't doubt for a second the Killzone 2 is great but you're generalizations are just unrealistic.
we'll soon see. when the gradual decline begins, you know where to find me to apologize. ;)[QUOTE="Puckhog04"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"] do I have proof of what? Resistance 2 falling off in the wake of KillZone 2? No crystal ball. Only conjecture. I think people will find BETTER (read: not DIFFERENT, which would provide a symbiotic, complimentary relationship like a Halo3/CoD4/Bioshock do) and move along. Something like what happened with Unreal Tournament 3.I think R2 and KZ2 offer more than enough originality to co-exist in the online activity bracket (like many other XBL and PSN games). They both also have conventional and robust off-line experiences that can further contribute to sales continuing respectively. PS3 owners got tired of UT3 before R2 was even announced lol. the people I talk to are already tired of Resistance 2. yeah but that doesnt mean everyone is. if that were the case than that would mean that no one would be playing it right now. why do people even argue so much about sales anyway? if there a good number of people on where it doesnt effect how long games take to join - then whats the big deal?KillZone 2 will take ovah. I'd put money on it, were I a betting man.
Dreams-Visions
[QUOTE="Episode_Eve"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"] do I have proof of what? Resistance 2 falling off in the wake of KillZone 2? No crystal ball. Only conjecture. I think people will find BETTER (read: not DIFFERENT, which would provide a symbiotic, complimentary relationship like a Halo3/CoD4/Bioshock do) and move along. Something like what happened with Unreal Tournament 3.I think R2 and KZ2 offer more than enough originality to co-exist in the online activity bracket (like many other XBL and PSN games). They both also have conventional and robust off-line experiences that can further contribute to sales continuing respectively. PS3 owners got tired of UT3 before R2 was even announced lol.KillZone 2 will take ovah. I'd put money on it, were I a betting man.
Puckhog04
The sad part of his comparision is that UT3 still has a lot of PSN players playing online from day to day. So he basically proved himself wrong.
now I know you're full of it. you should search my UT3 thread here. I posted pictures of the dead UT3 PS3 servers.try convincing someone who doesn't own the game, k? In fact, don't. you try too hard. maybe you need a nap, because you seem to be equally opposite to my opinion, but much more emotional for no apparently good reason. to suggest there are "a lot" of people playing UT3 on the PS3 is an outright LIE. and I'd be glad to snap MORE pictures of the mass of dead servers to drive the point home.
[QUOTE="Puckhog04"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"] do I have proof of what? Resistance 2 falling off in the wake of KillZone 2? No crystal ball. Only conjecture. I think people will find BETTER (read: not DIFFERENT, which would provide a symbiotic, complimentary relationship like a Halo3/CoD4/Bioshock do) and move along. Something like what happened with Unreal Tournament 3.I think R2 and KZ2 offer more than enough originality to co-exist in the online activity bracket (like many other XBL and PSN games). They both also have conventional and robust off-line experiences that can further contribute to sales continuing respectively. PS3 owners got tired of UT3 before R2 was even announced lol. the people I talk to are already tired of Resistance 2. Man..Yeah, people's attention span and lasting appeals differ. I believe you no doubt, I just think they're the minority though.KillZone 2 will take ovah. I'd put money on it, were I a betting man.
Dreams-Visions
P.S. Why does it say you're quoting Puck? Lol, the new forums are glitchy.
[QUOTE="Puckhog04"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"] do I have proof of what? Resistance 2 falling off in the wake of KillZone 2? No crystal ball. Only conjecture. I think people will find BETTER (read: not DIFFERENT, which would provide a symbiotic, complimentary relationship like a Halo3/CoD4/Bioshock do) and move along. Something like what happened with Unreal Tournament 3.I think R2 and KZ2 offer more than enough originality to co-exist in the online activity bracket (like many other XBL and PSN games). They both also have conventional and robust off-line experiences that can further contribute to sales continuing respectively. PS3 owners got tired of UT3 before R2 was even announced lol. the people I talk to are already tired of Resistance 2.KillZone 2 will take ovah. I'd put money on it, were I a betting man.
Dreams-Visions
1. I didn't type that.
2. And how many people is that exactly? 10? 15? 1 million? Sorry but 10 people doesn't warrant a generalization claiming that "all R2 users will move to Killzone 2 and R2 will die when Killzone 2 comes out". Like i said before, you're unrealistic to an extreme.
[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="Puckhog04"] I think R2 and KZ2 offer more than enough originality to co-exist in the online activity bracket (like many other XBL and PSN games). They both also have conventional and robust off-line experiences that can further contribute to sales continuing respectively. PS3 owners got tired of UT3 before R2 was even announced lol.ski11buzzthe people I talk to are already tired of Resistance 2. yeah but that doesnt mean everyone is. if that were the case than that would mean that no one would be playing it right now. why do people even argue so much about sales anyway? if there a good number of people on where it doesnt effect how long games take to join - then whats the big deal? I didn't say people were going to stop playing the game right now. In fact, I'm not saying there won't be people playing it on a regular basis. I'm just saying that when KillZone 2 arrives, most PS3 FPS gamers will be playing THAT. that's all. just my opinion, based on all the comments I've been reading from people who own it.
[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="Puckhog04"] I think R2 and KZ2 offer more than enough originality to co-exist in the online activity bracket (like many other XBL and PSN games). They both also have conventional and robust off-line experiences that can further contribute to sales continuing respectively. PS3 owners got tired of UT3 before R2 was even announced lol.Puckhog04the people I talk to are already tired of Resistance 2.
1. I didn't type that.
2. And how many people is that exactly? 10? 15? 1 million? Sorry but 10 people doesn't warrant a generalization claiming that "all R2 users will move to Killzone 2 and R2 will die when Killzone 2 comes out". Like i said before, you're unrealistic to an extreme.
I hear you. "How many people" is well...just about everyone I asked today. I'd say...85% of the people who I asked or responded weren't big on the game. that's enough for me. ESPECIALLY when most of those people feel that in many ways R1 was better than R2. I wasn't a big fan of R1, so if people feel R1 is better, I mine as well save that money, you know? so that's what I did.and I didn't say "all users will move to KillZone 2". stop putting words in my mouth. perhaps I was being a bit melodramatic, when I said R2 will *die*, but what I meant was I think people will move in mass to KillZone 2. Not that people would simply never play Resistance 2 anymore. Hell, people still play Perfect Dark Zero! Anyway, go play some Resistance 2. It's a great game, apparently. So don't waste time here. enjoy!
[QUOTE="Puckhog04"][QUOTE="Episode_Eve"] I think R2 and KZ2 offer more than enough originality to co-exist in the online activity bracket (like many other XBL and PSN games). They both also have conventional and robust off-line experiences that can further contribute to sales continuing respectively. PS3 owners got tired of UT3 before R2 was even announced lol.Dreams-Visions
The sad part of his comparision is that UT3 still has a lot of PSN players playing online from day to day. So he basically proved himself wrong.
now I know you're full of it. you should search my UT3 thread here. I posted pictures of the dead UT3 PS3 servers.try convincing someone who doesn't own the game, k? In fact, don't. you try too hard. maybe you need a nap, because you seem to be equally opposite to my opinion, but much more emotional for no apparently good reason. to suggest there are "a lot" of people playing UT3 on the PS3 is an outright LIE. and I'd be glad to snap MORE pictures of the mass of dead servers to drive the point home.
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Yes, once again with your amazingly amusing generalizations. I guess your few pictured moments in time represent every waking hour on UT3 on PSN, right? I just got done playing UT3 online on PSN and had many many servers to choose from. Outright Lie? Hey, again man, whatever helps you feel better. I don't know how the servers are right now but they were good the other night. Your generalizations of one moment in time representing all time is amusing. I don't have to convince anyone. I played it. Considering your unrealistic generalizations of R2 regarding Killzone 2, despite me proving you wrong regarding old games being played an enormous amount still (Warhawk, Halo 3, CoD4, Rainbow Six Vegas 2, CoDWaW, TF2, etc.), you really are just done. Your desperate attempts to mask one moment in time as being how it always is online is proof enough of that.
[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="Puckhog04"]now I know you're full of it. you should search my UT3 thread here. I posted pictures of the dead UT3 PS3 servers.The sad part of his comparision is that UT3 still has a lot of PSN players playing online from day to day. So he basically proved himself wrong.
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try convincing someone who doesn't own the game, k? In fact, don't. you try too hard. maybe you need a nap, because you seem to be equally opposite to my opinion, but much more emotional for no apparently good reason. to suggest there are "a lot" of people playing UT3 on the PS3 is an outright LIE. and I'd be glad to snap MORE pictures of the mass of dead servers to drive the point home.
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Yes, once again with your amazingly amusing generalizations. I guess your few pictured moments in time represent every waking hour on UT3 on PSN, right? I just got done playing UT3 online on PSN and had many many servers to choose from. Outright Lie? Hey, again man, whatever helps you feel better. I don't know how the servers are right now but they were good the other night. Your generalizations of one moment in time representing all time is amusing. I don't have to convince anyone. I played it. Considering your unrealistic generalizations of R2 regarding Killzone 2, despite me proving you wrong regarding old games being played an enormous amount still (Warhawk, Halo 3, CoD4, Rainbow Six Vegas 2, CoDWaW, TF2, etc.), you really are just done. Your desperate attempts to mask one moment in time as being how it always is online is proof enough of that.
please. go online. take pictures. post here, showing us aaaaaallll the servers that are full of players. don't worry. I'll wait. ans who brought up any old games? Warhawk? Halo 3? CoD4? when did those enter the conversation? don't move the goal posts because you can't win. please, go snap us some pictures of UT3 online servers. if you don't, I will. :) choose how you'd prefer to take your self-ownage.Played in the beta, bought it the first day it came out. After an extensive period of time playing it, it just didn't stick. I really wanted to like it, too. But I wouldn't call it a failure sales wise, more like a disappointment.bez2083Puckhog04...you have another one of those nay-sayers that don't exist! I think you should shoo him out. Or beat him for this transgression. :lol: seriously...people are disappointed. I can handle that. maybe one day, you can too. :)
[QUOTE="Puckhog04"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"] the people I talk to are already tired of Resistance 2.Dreams-Visions
1. I didn't type that.
2. And how many people is that exactly? 10? 15? 1 million? Sorry but 10 people doesn't warrant a generalization claiming that "all R2 users will move to Killzone 2 and R2 will die when Killzone 2 comes out". Like i said before, you're unrealistic to an extreme.
I hear you. "How many people" is well...just about everyone I asked today. I'd say...85% of the people who I asked or responded weren't big on the game. that's enough for me. ESPECIALLY when most of those people feel that in many ways R1 was better than R2. I wasn't a big fan of R1, so if people feel R1 is better, I mine as well save that money, you know? so that's what I did.and I didn't say "all users will move to KillZone 2". stop putting words in my mouth. perhaps I was being a bit melodramatic, when I said R2 will *die*, but what I meant was I think people will move in mass to KillZone 2. Not that people would simply never play Resistance 2 anymore. Hell, people still play Perfect Dark Zero! Anyway, go play some Resistance 2. It's a great game, apparently. So don't waste time here. enjoy!
You were being melodramatic and that's your fault. Next time say what you mean without the dramatic crap. I can't see through that over the internet, now can I?
Of course some users will move to Killzone 2 just as happens with every other old online game when a newer online game comes out. I have yet to run into any PSN or XBL title that had no servers up (with the exception of Stranglehold on both platforms...which doesn't even have users online playing on pc). Most have alot of servers up. And, yes, even PDZ does. Like i said, i was surprised as well, regardless of whether you believe me or not (yes, i can sense sarcasm). So your whole argument here was based on nothing but common sense? Yet you had to spin it with melodrama to make it sound more "certain"?
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I just got done playing Resistance 2, Gears 2, Battlefield BC, L4D (pc), and Fable 2 today. I'm taking a break. O noes!
[QUOTE="bez2083"]Played in the beta, bought it the first day it came out. After an extensive period of time playing it, it just didn't stick. I really wanted to like it, too. But I wouldn't call it a failure sales wise, more like a disappointment.Dreams-VisionsPuckhog04...you have another one of those nay-sayers that don't exist! I think you should shoo him out. Or beat him for this transgression. :lol: seriously...people are disappointed. I can handle that. maybe one day, you can too. :)
Once again with your childish crap. More Melodrama?
You stated it as if you thought that all users were going to dissapear from Resistance 2. You're exact words were "When does Killzone 2 come out? That's how long Resistance 2 has to live".
I have no doubt some will move to Killzone 2 (and i stated that in the beginning of this so, again, you fail there). You were wrong here though, not me. Either quit with the dramatic crap or learn to convey your thoughts better. Either way, it's your problem. Get over it.
Puckhog04...you have another one of those nay-sayers that don't exist! I think you should shoo him out. Or beat him for this transgression. :lol: seriously...people are disappointed. I can handle that. maybe one day, you can too. :)[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="bez2083"]Played in the beta, bought it the first day it came out. After an extensive period of time playing it, it just didn't stick. I really wanted to like it, too. But I wouldn't call it a failure sales wise, more like a disappointment.Puckhog04
Once again with your childish crap. More Melodrama?
You stated it as if you thought that all users were going to dissapear from Resistance 2. You're exact words were "When does Killzone 2 come out? That's how long Resistance 2 has to live".
I have no doubt some will move to Killzone 2 (and i stated that in the beginning of this so, again, you fail there). You were wrong here though, not me. Either quit with the dramatic crap or learn to convey your thoughts better. Either way, it's your problem. Get over it.
installing a UT3 update now. do you want to just concede the point that I'm very much right about UT3...or do you wan to post the ownage pics. your choice. and you really failed by bringing up other games, btw.[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="Puckhog04"]I hear you. "How many people" is well...just about everyone I asked today. I'd say...85% of the people who I asked or responded weren't big on the game. that's enough for me. ESPECIALLY when most of those people feel that in many ways R1 was better than R2. I wasn't a big fan of R1, so if people feel R1 is better, I mine as well save that money, you know? so that's what I did.1. I didn't type that.
2. And how many people is that exactly? 10? 15? 1 million? Sorry but 10 people doesn't warrant a generalization claiming that "all R2 users will move to Killzone 2 and R2 will die when Killzone 2 comes out". Like i said before, you're unrealistic to an extreme.
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and I didn't say "all users will move to KillZone 2". stop putting words in my mouth. perhaps I was being a bit melodramatic, when I said R2 will *die*, but what I meant was I think people will move in mass to KillZone 2. Not that people would simply never play Resistance 2 anymore. Hell, people still play Perfect Dark Zero! Anyway, go play some Resistance 2. It's a great game, apparently. So don't waste time here. enjoy!
You were being melodramatic and that's your fault. Next time say what you mean without the dramatic crap. I can't see through that over the internet, now can I?
Of course some users will move to Killzone 2 just as happens with every other old online game when a newer online game comes out. I have yet to run into any PSN or XBL title that had no servers up (with the exception of Stranglehold on both platforms...which doesn't even have users online playing on pc). Most have alot of servers up. And, yes, even PDZ does. Like i said, i was surprised as well, regardless of whether you believe me or not (yes, i can sense sarcasm). So your whole argument here was based on nothing but common sense? Yet you had to spin it with melodrama to make it sound more "certain"?
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I just got done playing Resistance 2, Gears 2, Battlefield BC, L4D (pc), and Fable 2 today. I'm taking a break. O noes!
then I'll help you experience your first one in a few minutes. it's called UT3. it's on the PS3. and it's sad :lol:btw, if you can't see through the internet, then how about you just know who you're talking to? if you know I'm obviously neither stupid nor crazy, then why come at me like I'm a brand new poster with zero rep here?
[QUOTE="Puckhog04"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"] now I know you're full of it. you should search my UT3 thread here. I posted pictures of the dead UT3 PS3 servers.try convincing someone who doesn't own the game, k? In fact, don't. you try too hard. maybe you need a nap, because you seem to be equally opposite to my opinion, but much more emotional for no apparently good reason. to suggest there are "a lot" of people playing UT3 on the PS3 is an outright LIE. and I'd be glad to snap MORE pictures of the mass of dead servers to drive the point home.
Dreams-Visions
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Yes, once again with your amazingly amusing generalizations. I guess your few pictured moments in time represent every waking hour on UT3 on PSN, right? I just got done playing UT3 online on PSN and had many many servers to choose from. Outright Lie? Hey, again man, whatever helps you feel better. I don't know how the servers are right now but they were good the other night. Your generalizations of one moment in time representing all time is amusing. I don't have to convince anyone. I played it. Considering your unrealistic generalizations of R2 regarding Killzone 2, despite me proving you wrong regarding old games being played an enormous amount still (Warhawk, Halo 3, CoD4, Rainbow Six Vegas 2, CoDWaW, TF2, etc.), you really are just done. Your desperate attempts to mask one moment in time as being how it always is online is proof enough of that.
please. go online. take pictures. post here, showing us aaaaaallll the servers that are full of players. don't worry. I'll wait. ans who brought up any old games? Warhawk? Halo 3? CoD4? when did those enter the conversation? don't move the goal posts because you can't win. please, go snap us some pictures of UT3 online servers. if you don't, I will. :) choose how you'd prefer to take your self-ownage.I'm simply trying to convey to your close mind that just because a new game comes out doesn't mean that all the old games have users dissapear altogether, which is how you made it sound when you said it originally. I don't care for childish ownage stuff. I already said i played UT3 online a few days ago, not today. You wanna go take pics of it right now then go for it, i don't have a digital camera. If that makes you feel better then be my guest. But once again, 1 moment in time doesn't represent the amount of users playing 24/7.
Not every game must sell a millionHarlockJCNo, but a game like R2 is expected to. And should. And it did lol :P.
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