retro gamers/ old schoolers anger me

im 21 i owned a NES, SNES all that jazz

whenever i list FFX or halo 2 as the great games there is always some retro jerk who says OMG lufia,dragon questand DOOM, and quake are so superior blah blah blah

guess what retro peeps no they arent current quality of games is so far beyonf that crap from the NES, SNES era its ridiculous...

so stop saying those stupid games from the past are better cause they arent

even the worst of current games is better than 95% of garbage on NES, and SNES

thnks for sharing that with us :?istreakforfood

your welcome i just had to rant cause retro gamers suffer from too much nostalgia and actually think games were superior back then...

im 21 i owned a NES, SNES all that jazz

whenever i list FFX or halo 2 as the great games there is always some retro jerk who says OMG lufia,dragon questand DOOM, and quake are so superior blah blah blah

guess what retro peeps no they arent current quality of games is so far beyonf that crap from the NES, SNES era its ridiculous...

so stop saying those stupid games from the past are better cause they arent

even the worst of current games is better than 95% of garbage on NES, and SNES

tidus222

[QUOTE="istreakforfood"]thnks for sharing that with us :?tidus222

your welcome i just had to rant cause retro gamers suffer from too much nostalgia and actually think games were superior back then...

the argument you had is no different than the stuff that goes on sw. the topic in sw is usually about which console and exclusive games are better.

[QUOTE="tidus222"]

im 21 i owned a NES, SNES all that jazz

whenever i list FFX or halo 2 as the great games there is always some retro jerk who says OMG lufia,dragon questand DOOM, and quake are so superior blah blah blah

guess what retro peeps no they arent current quality of games is so far beyonf that crap from the NES, SNES era its ridiculous...

so stop saying those stupid games from the past are better cause they arent

even the worst of current games is better than 95% of garbage on NES, and SNES

rdo

i realize that without those games we wouldnt have todays games

but some people actually try to claim these old games are actually better than current games

its MADNESS

I know! Aren't people who have different opinions so annoying?Hoffgod

but some people actually try to claim these old games are actually better than current games

tidus222

[QUOTE="istreakforfood"]thnks for sharing that with us :?tidus222

your welcome i just had to rant cause retro gamers suffer from too much nostalgia and actually think games were superior back then...

radiant silver gun > anything made since in my opinion.

super mario rpg > final fantasy

anything ever made > halo

i love opinions they make fanboys cry!!!

im 21 i owned a NES, SNES all that jazz

whenever i list FFX or halo 2 as the great games there is always some retro jerk who says OMG lufia,dragon questand DOOM, and quake are so superior blah blah blah

guess what retro peeps no they arent current quality of games is so far beyonf that crap from the NES, SNES era its ridiculous...

so stop saying those stupid games from the past are better cause they arent

even the worst of current games is better than 95% of garbage on NES, and SNES

tidus222

Graphics aren't everything. Secret of Mana is still fun to play, but I always love KH2 more. Sonic 3 & Knuckles kicks total ass, and it beats the currrent games.

streets of rage 2 >>>>>> every other video game ever made by anyone ever ever...:PVendettaRed07

I just bought Puzzle Fighter Hyper HD Remix from the XBL, and I'm lovin' it. I'm also going to check out the Streets Of Rage 2 trial in a sec. Plus I'm lovin' the COD4 beta.

radiant silver gun > anything made since in my opinion.

super mario rpg > final fantasy

anything ever made > halo

i love opinions they make fanboys cry!!!

frankeyser

FFIX>Anything ever made

And Transformers the movie is better than Gone with the Wind, which had crappy black and white graphics and scores zero for special effects and the chick in it isn't even hot. You are right explosions and headshots and hot chicks and story by committee have heralded a new age of enlightenment with ever better movies, games, novels and TV shows.

Sarcasm aside there are some amazing things being done in computer games in the present day, but the best of the older games are still amazing. Without the massive amounts of memory and graphical power developers really had to work hard on that ethereal concept of gameplay (plus they had more time to spend on it) which is what still separates a great game from a good one.

tidus222- I believe your speech is regarding the technical aspects of the games. In this sense, I agree with you. But I don't otherwise.

I believe your forgetting the biggest factor and that's the time period in which every title is released. It's the same difference as new movies with their sparkling graphics such as "300" and older hits ala "Star Wars". If you take into account that Star Wars was filmed in 1977, it was unbelievable at the time. Same goes for Star Trek, Jaws, etc.

Congradulations on turning 21! Woot dring a beer!

Anyhow, big games of 1987 for instance had the same amount of devtime put into as games of now. I remember reading about a bunch of hits before their launch for months on end.. felt like years in Nintendo Power. So when the big guns arrived, you just knew it. No different then now. Only difference ppl today are more picky and unsatisfied with everything in general.

So you can't sit here and tell us that 95% of titles on NES and SNES are crap because by today's standards, there's just as much crap if this is what you imply.

And Transformers the movie is better than Gone with the Wind, which had crappy black and white graphics and scores zero for special effects and the chick in it isn't even hot. You are right explosions and headshots and hot chicks and story by committee have heralded a new age of enlightenment with ever better movies, games, novels and TV shows.

Sarcasm aside there are some amazing things being done in computer games in the present day, but the best of the older games are still amazing. Without the massive amounts of memory and graphical power developers really had to work hard on that ethereal concept of gameplay (plus they had more time to spend on it) which is what still separates a great game from a good one.

actionquake

the difference is games of old didnt have stories, voice acting, great soundtracks realistic graphics, or in depth gameplay...

movies can be compared cause the only real difference is CGI....

[QUOTE="actionquake"]

And Transformers the movie is better than Gone with the Wind, which had crappy black and white graphics and scores zero for special effects and the chick in it isn't even hot. You are right explosions and headshots and hot chicks and story by committee have heralded a new age of enlightenment with ever better movies, games, novels and TV shows.

Sarcasm aside there are some amazing things being done in computer games in the present day, but the best of the older games are still amazing. Without the massive amounts of memory and graphical power developers really had to work hard on that ethereal concept of gameplay (plus they had more time to spend on it) which is what still separates a great game from a good one.

tidus222

the difference is games of old didnt have stories, voice acting, great soundtracks realistic graphics, or in depth gameplay...

movies can be compared cause the only real difference is CGI....

[QUOTE="tidus222"][QUOTE="actionquake"]

And Transformers the movie is better than Gone with the Wind, which had crappy black and white graphics and scores zero for special effects and the chick in it isn't even hot. You are right explosions and headshots and hot chicks and story by committee have heralded a new age of enlightenment with ever better movies, games, novels and TV shows.

Sarcasm aside there are some amazing things being done in computer games in the present day, but the best of the older games are still amazing. Without the massive amounts of memory and graphical power developers really had to work hard on that ethereal concept of gameplay (plus they had more time to spend on it) which is what still separates a great game from a good one.

myke2010

the difference is games of old didnt have stories, voice acting, great soundtracks realistic graphics, or in depth gameplay...

movies can be compared cause the only real difference is CGI....

FF tactics isnt that old

i was more talking about NES, SNES era where pretty much no games had a storyline, goodsoundtrack, or in depth gameplay

PS1 was really the start of great games for me

a few games from the SNES like FF6, supermario world, hold up well but overall NES, SNES games were shallow trash

im 21 i owned a NES, SNES all that jazz

whenever i list FFX or halo 2 as the great games there is always some retro jerk who says OMG lufia,dragon questand DOOM, and quake are so superior blah blah blah

guess what retro peeps no they arent current quality of games is so far beyonf that crap from the NES, SNES era its ridiculous...

so stop saying those stupid games from the past are better cause they arent

even the worst of current games is better than 95% of garbage on NES, and SNES

tidus222

Theres no way to really compare, say, Pong to Oblivion. But I always agree with the "respect the past" notion. But I do see what peoplemean when they say Doom was better than Halo or FF3 better than FFx. They were the originals, they were unique for the time. Almost every month a new FPS comes out or some RPG attempt in an already flooded market.

The games of today are incredible, but the past games felt just as amazing back in the day.

Okay, go play Chrono Trigger. Then sit in the corner for a couple hours and think about the things you said and how wrong they are.Robio_basic

played it already

i really hate time travel plots sicne the concept is just BS with time paradox and time being subjective oncpet invented by man afterall

some of the characters like frog and magus were interesting its not a bad game for its time its quite good, but compared to FFX, xenosaga, KOTOR, xenogears its a piece of crap

im 21 i owned a NES, SNES all that jazz

whenever i list FFX or halo 2 as the great games there is always some retro jerk who says OMG lufia,dragon questand DOOM, and quake are so superior blah blah blah

guess what retro peeps no they arent current quality of games is so far beyonf that crap from the NES, SNES era its ridiculous...

so stop saying those stupid games from the past are better cause they arent

even the worst of current games is better than 95% of garbage on NES, and SNES

tidus222

Soooooo...Minority Report:Everybody Runs for the PS2 is better than Contra on the NES??? Everybody is titled to their own opinion...who knows...you'll probably be saying the same thing twenty years from now...oh FFX is better than this Interactive VR Sim..."So what if it puts me in the game..."

Kinda reminds me of when Marty McFly went to the future and founda shooter game (from the 80's)and the kids didn't like it becauseyou had to useyour hands to play it..."Think McFly...think..."

FF tactics isnt that old

i was more talking about NES, SNES era where pretty much no games had a storyline, goodsoundtrack, or in depth gameplay

PS1 was really the start of great games for me

a few games from the SNES like FF6, supermario world, hold up well but overall NES, SNES games were shallow trash

tidus222

[QUOTE="Robio_basic"]Okay, go play Chrono Trigger. Then sit in the corner for a couple hours and think about the things you said and how wrong they are.tidus222

played it already

i really hate time travel plots sicne the concept is just BS with time paradox and time being subjective oncpet invented by man afterall

some of the characters like frog and magus were interesting its not a bad game for its time its quite good, but compared to FFX, xenosaga, KOTOR, xenogears its a piece of crap

I'm afraid if you think FFX is good then there's nothing more we can do for you.

[QUOTE="Robio_basic"]Okay, go play Chrono Trigger. Then sit in the corner for a couple hours and think about the things you said and how wrong they are.tidus222

played it already

i really hate time travel plots sicne the concept is just BS with time paradox and time being subjective oncpet invented by man afterall

some of the characters like frog and magus were interesting its not a bad game for its time its quite good, but compared to FFX, xenosaga, KOTOR, xenogears its a piece of crap

I hate nostalgia laced comments too, but what you said crosses the line. Chrono Trigger really has aged well (gameplay-wise).

[QUOTE="tidus222"]

FF tactics isnt that old

i was more talking about NES, SNES era where pretty much no games had a storyline, goodsoundtrack, or in depth gameplay

PS1 was really the start of great games for me

a few games from the SNES like FF6, supermario world, hold up well but overall NES, SNES games were shallow trash

myke2010

Personally, the second gen was the greatest console generation (NES, Sega Master System). I played consoles before then and after. No console made an impact on me like those two. I havent felt the joy of playing like i did withSuper Mario Bros, Zelda, Mike Tysons Punch Out, Mega Man, Bionic Commando, World Runner, Goonies, Kid Icarus Metroid and countless others. As good as the games look and such.. no generation made me fall in love with gaming like the NES and Sega did back then.

Damn, sorry about the flashback.

[QUOTE="myke2010"][QUOTE="tidus222"][QUOTE="actionquake"]

And Transformers the movie is better than Gone with the Wind, which had crappy black and white graphics and scores zero for special effects and the chick in it isn't even hot. You are right explosions and headshots and hot chicks and story by committee have heralded a new age of enlightenment with ever better movies, games, novels and TV shows.

Sarcasm aside there are some amazing things being done in computer games in the present day, but the best of the older games are still amazing. Without the massive amounts of memory and graphical power developers really had to work hard on that ethereal concept of gameplay (plus they had more time to spend on it) which is what still separates a great game from a good one.

tidus222

the difference is games of old didnt have stories, voice acting, great soundtracks realistic graphics, or in depth gameplay...

movies can be compared cause the only real difference is CGI....

FF tactics isnt that old

i was more talking about NES, SNES era where pretty much no games had a storyline, goodsoundtrack, or in depth gameplay

PS1 was really the start of great games for me

a few games from the SNES like FF6, supermario world, hold up well but overall NES, SNES games were shallow trash

CHRONO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[QUOTE="actionquake"]

And Transformers the movie is better than Gone with the Wind, which had crappy black and white graphics and scores zero for special effects and the chick in it isn't even hot. You are right explosions and headshots and hot chicks and story by committee have heralded a new age of enlightenment with ever better movies, games, novels and TV shows.

Sarcasm aside there are some amazing things being done in computer games in the present day, but the best of the older games are still amazing. Without the massive amounts of memory and graphical power developers really had to work hard on that ethereal concept of gameplay (plus they had more time to spend on it) which is what still separates a great game from a good one.

tidus222

the difference is games of old didnt have stories, voice acting, great soundtracks realistic graphics, or in depth gameplay...

movies can be compared cause the only real difference is CGI....

But voice acting, great soundtracks, realistic graphics are not requirements of an amazing game. Stories aren't even a neccesity (anyone know if Tetris has a story?), and I don't know what in depth gameplay actually means (complex controls?). Maybe the difference for older gamers is that for them a game does not have to be as close to an interactive movie as possible.

And if you want to talk story, for pure story telling, the best of the old text based adventures beat anything that is out today just as a good novel beats the story of any movie. A lot of point and click games also had excellent storylines.

[QUOTE="myke2010"][QUOTE="tidus222"]

FF tactics isnt that old

i was more talking about NES, SNES era where pretty much no games had a storyline, goodsoundtrack, or in depth gameplay

PS1 was really the start of great games for me

a few games from the SNES like FF6, supermario world, hold up well but overall NES, SNES games were shallow trash

Gamersince81

Personally, the second gen was the greatest console generation (NES, Sega Master System). I played consoles before then and after. No console made an impact on me like those two. I havent felt the joy of playing like i did withSuper Mario Bros, Zelda, Mike Tysons Punch Out, Mega Man, Bionic Commando, World Runner, Goonies, Kid Icarus Metroid and countless others. As good as the games look and such.. no generation made me fall in love with gaming like the NES and Sega did back then.

Damn, sorry about the flashback.

I'm from that era and it often annoys me at times when people don't appreciate the great games being achieved in the present. I respect their tastes (some of my favourites are very very old) but people will be talking about the likes of Shadow Of The Colossus, Resident Evil 4 and Bioshock in 15-20 years just as the nostalgic reflect on the old times.

Gaming is certainly improving I can tell you that.

the difference is games of old didnt have stories, voice acting, great soundtracks realistic graphics, or in depth gameplay...

movies can be compared cause the only real difference is CGI....

tidus222

Nothing like an uneducated gamer.

[QUOTE="tidus222"]

the difference is games of old didnt have stories, voice acting, great soundtracks realistic graphics, or in depth gameplay...

movies can be compared cause the only real difference is CGI....

Panzer_Zwei

Nothing like an uneducated gamer.

Great graphics is a must for any game I play. And I know alot of people just like me. Graphics = Gameplay imo.

[QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"][QUOTE="tidus222"]

the difference is games of old didnt have stories, voice acting, great soundtracks realistic graphics, or in depth gameplay...

movies can be compared cause the only real difference is CGI....

nmaharg

Nothing like an uneducated gamer.

Great graphics is a must for any game I play. And I know alot of people just like me. Graphics = Gameplay imo.

There will be much better looking games in the future than what is is now, but still the games that are out now wowed people, just like before, just like always.