Ridding ourselves of Consoles

As it stands, Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo all produce a console every 5-7 years. What would the world be like if we rid ourselves of consoles? In my opinion, everything would run a lot smoother, with developer and consumer happiness at an all-time high.

Perhaps Im just being an optimist, but perhaps we should at least take the time to analyze just what this might be like. I hope you dont write this off as fanboyism and actually take the time to consider the possibilities and even share this article should you agree.

The Evolving Generation

What makes PCs different? Well, lets start with the generational gap. Consoles have a lifespan of typically 5 years, but because of the ability to deliver software updates with this newest generation, the lifespan has been a lot longer. Is this a good thing? I personally dont believe so.

Consoles exist in generations, while the PC has been nicknamed the Evolving Generation. This is due to the fact that when new hardware and technology becomes available upgrading your system is as easy as popping out the old and putting in the new, while your data and unit remains the same. With consoles, you cant upgrade, your system will have the exact same specs and possibly general peripherals for quite some time.

World Without Consoles

Consoles are holding us back, many developers aim their games to be primarily run on console systems, and this can result in graphic and gameplay limitations for the PC side. PCs evolve, and as such they can run any game thrown at it, and if not, give technology a year and we can upgrade ourselves should we choose.

Many developers have started complaining that the lack of a new generation has crippled the industry by stunting creativity. While I think that statement is false, I can say this: if we didnt have consoles we wouldnt have to factor them in when creating a game. We take the initiative to make advanced graphic systems, or high load processing power games. There would always be a new generation available to all who want it.

The Big Threes Spare Time

With consoles removed from the picture doesnt that mean we will never get new and innovated Peripherals? Actually, thats just plain wrong. Nothing is stopping hardware companies from innovating new peripherals for the PC Industry, might we look at Leap Motion perhaps?

I would always support that with the Big Threes newly found time that they start innovating new input methods and peripherals for the PC, The ever evolving generation wont mind. Not one bit.

Still not enough to replace their time? Well what about Operating Systems?

Operating Systems

I thought about this very long and very hard, the companies would need a way to get revenue that they would lose by not developing consoles. Wouldnt an operating system just turn your PC into an overpriced console? Yes, and no.

If done correctly the Operating Systems can pay off for consumers and developers. Microsoft already makes operating systems, they need not adapt, but Sony and Nintendo will have to. Ever heard of Dual booting an operating system? If youre not familiar with It , allow me to explain: Upon startup should you have multi-operating systems and a boot loader, you will be able to choose what operating system boots up. So, you could boot into the PS3 OS, or even Nintendo OS to play your games. The important thing is that the companies make sure their operating system is compatible with any and all PC hardware. In addition, open operating systems akin to windows are always a plus.

Exclusives Be Gone

I dont know about you, but I hate console exclusives, I never understood why developers wouldnt give the other console some love. With only PCs to rule the gaming world, you wouldnt need exclusives, or if TB3 decide to take the operating route, then either way, at least all your games are available on one hardware unit even if you do have to boot a different OS.

Removing Disc Size Limit

Ever wonder what holds developers back from delivering over the top content? Many would argue nothing, but I want to focus on the people who say size matters, file size that is.

I know many of you swear by physical delivery methods, but I see them as a costly bottlenecking factor, but I see digital distribution as a dangerous way for consumers to never technically own their games truly. I would hope Developers learn to make games for both methods, but should we go digital, we could have very large file size for packing in all the content you could ever need, 20GB? No issue for Digital Distribution. 50GB? Bring me a developer brave enough to make a game with that much content, and Ill show you a distribution service that can handle it.

Budget, Performance, Ultra

Because PCs are so customizable, you can get a gaming machine no matter the budget. Whether youre only interested in a $300-600 gaming system (which I then recommend AMD APUs just by the way), or youre a $2000 GTX man, no problem. The best part is knowing its a great investment because all games will be compatible with your system.

Money, Money, Money

In the end, I get it, its all about money. If innovative peripherals and operating systems arent enough, I suggest a potentially dangerous method: Hardware.

If TB3 decide to take this route, there are 3 things they must keep in mind:

1. Compatibility

2. Open Customization

3. Variety

There are several companies that just make gaming PCs for a living. Should TB3 decide to do this, they need to make sure it is still a PC, meaning its compatible with all components and software type. I need to be able to take out their processor should I want to upgrade to a new one. It needs to run exactly like you would expect a PC to, and not a console. Most importantly, the best thing about PCs is the variety, they should offer budget systems, maybe a bit more expensive performance systems, and finally all out nuts money is no limit systems.

They could even preload their systems with their operating system if they want, why not? Just make sure you dont drift back to console tendencies.

Conclusion

I see consoles as a hindrance to our gaming world, one which all would benefit from should we remove them. Hopefully you took the time to try and understand my point of view, no matter how absurd you find it.

Ill be expanding this as I think of more reasons as to why we should do this, and I understand how I did not touch upon the cons as I couldnt think of any, thats where you come in.

I hope you leave your thoughts and opinions in the comments below, including counter arguments and thoughts that eluded me.

i own a pc and console i only own a console because the majority of my friends own one and i find plessure in beating casuals at every game.

Nope. I'm not buying gaming PCs for my kids. They may get my hand-me-downs. But, a brand new one? Hell, no. That's reserved for me.:lol:

I'd prefer we do away with crappy handheld/iOS games before consoles. Plus I'd only do away with consoles if PCs became radically easier to approach and play a game. Consoles are great because it's simply A) insert disc, then B) play. Due to that mode of operation, there are gamers out there who wouldn't be otherwise. Sure, I suppose that means we have more 12 year old COD players as a result, but I say that's better than not having them.

I'd prefer we do away with crappy handheld/iOS games before consoles. Plus I'd only do away with consoles if PCs became radically easier to approach and play a game. Consoles are great because it's simply A) insert disc, then B) play. Due to that mode of operation, there are gamers out there who wouldn't be otherwise. Sure, I suppose that means we have more 12 year old COD players as a result, but I say that's better than not having them.

Basinboy

Think about it like this, do you REALLY want console players to be in your team in a PC game?tagyhag

Sure, I need a human shield, and my clan sure knows how to get on people's nerves :P

Consoles suit a lot of people because they work out of the box. I have no problem with that idea - PC gaming is not always as smooth as I'd like it to be.

The mass market will always lag behind what the cutting edge is capable of.

Devs not having to worry about console restrictions all the time would make games better as well.BPoole96

Which is what already happens.

[QUOTE="BPoole96"]Devs not having to worry about console restrictions all the time would make games better as well.PannicAtack

Which is what already happens.

Yeah, working on PC has its own limitations, they can't get every PC gamer with their game if they want a pretty game, and conversely they also have to dedicate more time and QA to making sure their game is well optimized on PC, to prevent crashing and compatibility issues and what not.

Its two different sides of the same coin. Some developers (like Naughty Dog on PS3) know their way on a console, others (like Tripwire Entertainment) makes games like Red Orchestra more suited to PC audiences and has more experience on PC games.

[QUOTE="BPoole96"]Devs not having to worry about console restrictions all the time would make games better as well.PannicAtack

Which is what already happens.

"Hermits: The Thread"

on a SW near you

to game on the crappiest sh!t ever ... PC

GTFO !

Only the most arrogant and stupid of PC Elitists would actually vote yes to this.

If PCs can effectively capture the Japanese market (mostly the JRPGs and SRPGS) and Nintendo went PC as well as well as Sony then yeah, I wouldn't need a console lol.

Pfft, no. At this point in time, getting rid of consoles would shut down companies or streamline them, forcing people out of work. Unemployment would be at an all-time high.

Is that what you wanted TC, bringing economic armageddon so your hermit fantasies would come true? Looks like hermits want to break the economy and make people lose their jobs now...

to TC.

No just no, it requires massive changes in tastes,the actual gaming ecosystem would be f'd and console exclusives are good it gives you a reason to buy a product an exclusiveless world would be pointless cause it really drives competition

For hermits a perfect world would be PC only, but alas it just will never happen as gaming is evolving and changing.

[QUOTE="ebrezzy1"]

to game on the crappiest sh!t ever ... PC

GTFO !

MercenaryMafia

No need

PC gaming is the most casual fanbase there is around

PC gaming has more crap games then the Wii puts out

The games are just like the Wii so anyone can pick up n play them ... Wii remote / Mouse - same basic functions

There first party games are a joke thats why they talk up 3rd party "pretty" (console made games)

just look at the gameplay instead of screen shots - boring RTS let the game play for you types or Diablo clones galore ... oh the variety

[QUOTE="MercenaryMafia"]

[QUOTE="ebrezzy1"]

to game on the crappiest sh!t ever ... PC

GTFO !

ebrezzy1

No need

PC gaming is the most casual fanbase there is around

PC gaming has more crap games then the Wii puts out

The games are just like the Wii so anyone can pick up n play them ... Wii remote / Mouse - same basic functions

There first party games are a joke thats why they talk up 3rd party "pretty" (console made games)

just look at the gameplay instead of screen shots - boring RTS let the game play for you types or Diablo clones galore ... oh the variety

Why did your mother feed you bleach as a baby?

No need

1) PC gaming is the most casual fanbase there is around

2) PC gaming has more crap games then the Wii puts out

3) The games are just like the Wii so anyone can pick up n play them ... Wii remote / Mouse - same basic functions

4) There first party games are a joke thats why they talk up 3rd party "pretty" (console made games)

5) just look at the gameplay instead of screen shots - boring RTS let the game play for you types or Diablo clones galore ... oh the variety

ebrezzy1

1) Yet, casual games don't interfere with the amount of core games the PC gets, whereas when you consider MS, Nintendo and Sony, they struggle to appeal to both sides.

2) And for every crap game it has, there are 3 great ones to replace it. PC just has more games.

3) Seriously?

4) PC has no first party..., it's all third party. What are you talking about?

5) I have no interest in strategy games or "Diablo clones" and I still find way more games to play on PC than any of the 3 consoles, individually or collectively.

[QUOTE="ebrezzy1"]

[QUOTE="MercenaryMafia"]

NoodleFighter

No need

PC gaming is the most casual fanbase there is around

PC gaming has more crap games then the Wii puts out

The games are just like the Wii so anyone can pick up n play them ... Wii remote / Mouse - same basic functions

There first party games are a joke thats why they talk up 3rd party "pretty" (console made games)

just look at the gameplay instead of screen shots - boring RTS let the game play for you types or Diablo clones galore ... oh the variety

Why did your mother feed you bleach as a baby?

[QUOTE="ebrezzy1"]

[QUOTE="MercenaryMafia"]

NoodleFighter

No need

PC gaming is the most casual fanbase there is around

PC gaming has more crap games then the Wii puts out

The games are just like the Wii so anyone can pick up n play them ... Wii remote / Mouse - same basic functions

There first party games are a joke thats why they talk up 3rd party "pretty" (console made games)

just look at the gameplay instead of screen shots - boring RTS let the game play for you types or Diablo clones galore ... oh the variety

Why did your mother feed you bleach as a baby?

No need

PC gaming is the most casual fanbase there is around

PC gaming has more crap games then the Wii puts out

The games are just like the Wii so anyone can pick up n play them ... Wii remote / Mouse - same basic functions

There first party games are a joke thats why they talk up 3rd party "pretty" (console made games)

just look at the gameplay instead of screen shots - boring RTS let the game play for you types or Diablo clones galore ... oh the variety

ebrezzy1

Ouch,my brain just BSoD'd/RRoD'd/YLoD'd,all at the same time :(

There's only so much stupidity I can take on a daily basis,and that post is totally off the charts!

And miss 99% of gaming ?

PC has no Fable, Zelda, Halo, Gears, JRPGs etc etc etc

It is a disaster, while consoles have 1000x more exclusives i want than PC and all PC games i need like Witcher 2

PC gamers jelly of consoles again, and up to their eyeballs in buyer's remorse. Making "I wish" threads about how great it would be if console devs gave a sh!t about making games for PC. For shame TC, for shame.

inb4 elitist scum call me a console peasant

[QUOTE="ebrezzy1"]

No need

1) PC gaming is the most casual fanbase there is around

2) PC gaming has more crap games then the Wii puts out

3) The games are just like the Wii so anyone can pick up n play them ... Wii remote / Mouse - same basic functions

4) There first party games are a joke thats why they talk up 3rd party "pretty" (console made games)

5) just look at the gameplay instead of screen shots - boring RTS let the game play for you types or Diablo clones galore ... oh the variety

whiskeystrike

1) Yet, casual games don't interfere with the amount of core games the PC gets, whereas when you consider MS, Nintendo and Sony, they struggle to appeal to both sides.

2) And for every crap game it has, there are 3 great ones to replace it. PC just has more games.

3) Seriously?

4) PC has no first party..., it's all third party. What are you talking about?

5) I have no interest in strategy games or "Diablo clones" and I still find way more games to play on PC than any of the 3 consoles, individually or collectively.

Its not that I agree with what he said but...

1) I dont know bout that really. Most devs focusing on PC atm are pointing towards casuals more then anything. Besides Blizzard games, all you see for PC are simple F2P games, FB games, and a couple of indie games (that most of the best ones end up in consoles anyway). Even great devs that used to dev exclusively for PC are going for consoles aswell (CD Projekt Red, Crytek, STALKER devs (they're making Metro arent they?), etc, etc)

2) PC does have more games IF you count the games from previous gens. Even if it has more games this gen that still means sh1t, when most of them are cr4ppy indie games. As I said, most of the times, the best indie titles that start on PC will end up on consoles (even machinarium, imo the best PC exclusive I've played this gen, is roumored for the Vita and PS3).

3) I agree its a ridiculous comparison

4) I'm sure by "1st party" he meant devs that dev exclusively for the PC thus making them 2nd party, NOT 3rd party. And I dont agree with him on that matter. PC still has a couple of great 2nd party games

5) Its your opinion and I repect that. I, for once, still prefer console games over any PC game I've played this gen. Hack'n'slash is my fav genre and as you can see, I would starve this gen If I was a PC only gamer.

IMHO, the only thing PC does better is multiplats. When it comes to exclusives give me consoles any day of the week

No because consoles offers good variety.

Exclusives are the reason why I own a PS3 and 360. I buy everything for my PC. Console versions of multiplats are not in an acceptable quality.

And miss 99% of gaming ?

PC has no Fable, Zelda, Halo, Gears, JRPGs etc etc etc

It is a disaster, while consoles have 1000x more exclusives i want than PC and all PC games i need like Witcher 2

loosingENDS

I'd just like to confirm something... arent you the famous labwarrior from GameTrailers?

There is a "myth" about a fanboy bigger then all other fanboys on those forums, a user named labwarrior aka the king of fanboys and, second some users there, his love for the 360 was sickening. I'm just wondering if its really you...

They ain't Kings

They Bastard childs of gaming (game of thones ref)

[QUOTE="whiskeystrike"]

[QUOTE="ebrezzy1"]

No need

1) PC gaming is the most casual fanbase there is around

2) PC gaming has more crap games then the Wii puts out

3) The games are just like the Wii so anyone can pick up n play them ... Wii remote / Mouse - same basic functions

4) There first party games are a joke thats why they talk up 3rd party "pretty" (console made games)

5) just look at the gameplay instead of screen shots - boring RTS let the game play for you types or Diablo clones galore ... oh the variety

4dr1el

1) Yet, casual games don't interfere with the amount of core games the PC gets, whereas when you consider MS, Nintendo and Sony, they struggle to appeal to both sides.

2) And for every crap game it has, there are 3 great ones to replace it. PC just has more games.

3) Seriously?

4) PC has no first party..., it's all third party. What are you talking about?

5) I have no interest in strategy games or "Diablo clones" and I still find way more games to play on PC than any of the 3 consoles, individually or collectively.

Its not that I agree with what he said but...

1) I dont know bout that really. Most devs focusing on PC atm are pointing towards casuals more then anything. Besides Blizzard games, all you see for PC are simple F2P games, FB games, and a couple of indie games (that most of the best ones end up in consoles anyway). Even great devs that used to dev exclusively for PC are going for consoles aswell (CD Projekt Red, Crytek, STALKER devs (they're making Metro arent they?), etc, etc)

About casual and "FB games",I think you should read this:

http://mashable.com/2012/07/25/zynga-q2-earnings/

The interest is severely fading away...

Also,on consoles,"core" market suffers because of "casual" market.Look at 360 for example,with Kinect,that creates strong separation on the platform.If Move was a success,the PS3 would take the same direction...

On PC,that's not the case,those markets are almost entirely sepparated,and can easily coexist in that separated state.due to the open nature of the system,no one "owns" the PC as the platform...

BTW,STALKER was not developed by Metro 2033's dev...

It was developed by GSC,while Metro was developed by 4A Games.Both games were published by THQ,though...

However,4A Games was formed by a few GSC employees after they left it,but they're NOT the same studio.A similiar situation happened with Infinity Ward,and Respawn Entertainment...

They ain't Kings

They Bastard childs of gaming (game of thones ref)

ebrezzy1

I see them more like the Titans.

The first gamers, the oldest gamers, the gamers that gave rise to the consolites (the Olympians). As they continued ruling using the old ways, the consoleites, rising in power and influence, stood up and overthrew the PC gamers. Now they wait, broken, forgotten, and angry, as the consolites bask as the new reigning champions of gaming. The PC gamers claim they are the master race, the first race, and that their ways are better, but while they are the most powerful, they are the most dated and their era is long past. They are relics of the past, doomed to grovel at their offsprings feet but will continue to deny their current place in the gaming pantheon.

They ain't Kings

They Bastard childs of gaming (game of thones ref)

ebrezzy1

Please,stop...

Haven't you butchered enough brains for today already?

[QUOTE="ebrezzy1"]

They ain't Kings

They Bastard childs of gaming (game of thones ref)

Rocker6

Please,stop...

Haven't you butchered enough brains for today already?

can you breathe outside of WoW I was just wondering ?

[QUOTE="MercenaryMafia"]

[QUOTE="ebrezzy1"]

to game on the crappiest sh!t ever ... PC

GTFO !

ebrezzy1

No need

PC gaming is the most casual fanbase there is around

PC gaming has more crap games then the Wii puts out

The games are just like the Wii so anyone can pick up n play them ... Wii remote / Mouse - same basic functions

There first party games are a joke thats why they talk up 3rd party "pretty" (console made games)

just look at the gameplay instead of screen shots - boring RTS let the game play for you types or Diablo clones galore ... oh the variety

[QUOTE="4dr1el"]

[QUOTE="whiskeystrike"]

1) Yet, casual games don't interfere with the amount of core games the PC gets, whereas when you consider MS, Nintendo and Sony, they struggle to appeal to both sides.

2) And for every crap game it has, there are 3 great ones to replace it. PC just has more games.

3) Seriously?

4) PC has no first party..., it's all third party. What are you talking about?

5) I have no interest in strategy games or "Diablo clones" and I still find way more games to play on PC than any of the 3 consoles, individually or collectively.

Rocker6

Its not that I agree with what he said but...

1) I dont know bout that really. Most devs focusing on PC atm are pointing towards casuals more then anything. Besides Blizzard games, all you see for PC are simple F2P games, FB games, and a couple of indie games (that most of the best ones end up in consoles anyway). Even great devs that used to dev exclusively for PC are going for consoles aswell (CD Projekt Red, Crytek, STALKER devs (they're making Metro arent they?), etc, etc)

About casual and "FB games",I think you should read this:

http://mashable.com/2012/07/25/zynga-q2-earnings/

The interest is severely fading away...

Also,on consoles,"core" market suffers because of "casual" market.Look at 360 for example,with Kinect,that creates separation on the platform...

On PC,that's not the case,those markets are almost entirely sepparated,and can easily coexist.due to the open nature of the platform...

STALKER

Yes, never denied consoles suffer from the focus on casual market and yes, theoretically PC can support both markets but the truth is, you just dont see that atm. Are you honestly gonna tell me the "core" market and the casual market are equally reparted on PC? The ammount of cheap, simple games still surpass the high budget games on PC while on the HD consoles, even though the casual market is getting bigger each day, the core games are still in bigger number then the casual ones. This can change in the future but atm is what I see.

also I already had seen that report on Zynga. It was to be expected really. The casual market is not a stable one. Casuals come and go but those who live gaming... those are forever

Think about it like this, do you REALLY want console players to be in your team in a PC game?tagyhag

Meatshields :P

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

[QUOTE="ebrezzy1"]

They ain't Kings

They Bastard childs of gaming (game of thones ref)

ebrezzy1

Please,stop...

Haven't you butchered enough brains for today already?

can you breathe outside of WoW I was just wondering ?

What's WoW? :?

[QUOTE="ebrezzy1"]

They ain't Kings

They Bastard childs of gaming (game of thones ref)

WiiCubeM1

I see them more like the Titans.

The first gamers, the oldest gamers, the gamers that gave rise to the consolites (the Olympians). As they continued ruling using the old ways, the consoleites, rising in power and influence, stood up and overthrew the PC gamers. Now they wait, broken, forgotten, and angry, as the consolites bask as the new reigning champions of gaming. The PC gamers claim they are the master race, the first race, and that their ways are better, but while they are the most powerful, they are the most dated and their era is long past. They are relics of the past, doomed to grovel at their offsprings feet but will continue to deny their current place in the gaming pantheon.

screw anything thats not a gaming first system is what i say

get gaming back again

pc gaming tablet gaming cell phone gaming is killing gaming

The first gamers, the oldest gamers

WiiCubeM1

Not really. Even though the 1st videogames were made on PC (well, obviously) gaming as a hobby started with teh arcades and home consoles being PONG the first videogame success. Any older gamer would be lying if he tells you he started gaming on PC. In my point of view, the Arcade gamers are the oldest and first gamers. And the arcades are like the "mothers" of the current home consoles basically

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

[QUOTE="ebrezzy1"]

They ain't Kings

They Bastard childs of gaming (game of thones ref)

ebrezzy1

Please,stop...

Haven't you butchered enough brains for today already?

can you breathe outside of WoW I was just wondering ?

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

[QUOTE="4dr1el"]

Its not that I agree with what he said but...

1) I dont know bout that really. Most devs focusing on PC atm are pointing towards casuals more then anything. Besides Blizzard games, all you see for PC are simple F2P games, FB games, and a couple of indie games (that most of the best ones end up in consoles anyway). Even great devs that used to dev exclusively for PC are going for consoles aswell (CD Projekt Red, Crytek, STALKER devs (they're making Metro arent they?), etc, etc)

4dr1el

About casual and "FB games",I think you should read this:

http://mashable.com/2012/07/25/zynga-q2-earnings/

The interest is severely fading away...

Also,on consoles,"core" market suffers because of "casual" market.Look at 360 for example,with Kinect,that creates separation on the platform...

On PC,that's not the case,those markets are almost entirely sepparated,and can easily coexist.due to the open nature of the platform...

STALKER

Yes, never denied consoles suffer from the focus on casual market and yes, theoretically PC can support both markets but the truth is, you just dont see that atm. Are you honestly gonna tell me the "core" market and the casual market are equally reparted on PC? The ammount of cheap, simple games still surpass the high budget games on PC while on the HD consoles, even though the casual market is getting bigger each day, the core games are still in bigger number then the casual ones. This can change in the future but atm is what I see.

also I already had seen that report on Zynga. It was to be expected really. The casual market is not a stable one. Casuals come and go but those who live gaming... those are forever

Are you implying that games with lower budgets are "casual by default"?

Because that is false.Journey didn't have a high budget,do you consider it "casual"?

STALKER had a low budget,yet I consider it more "core" than any console game.Same goes for Witcher 1...

And I really don't care about casual market,it doesn't affect me in any way.For me,it's unappealing,and I'm barely even aware of its existance...

[QUOTE="4dr1el"]

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

About casual and "FB games",I think you should read this:

http://mashable.com/2012/07/25/zynga-q2-earnings/

The interest is severely fading away...

Also,on consoles,"core" market suffers because of "casual" market.Look at 360 for example,with Kinect,that creates separation on the platform...

On PC,that's not the case,those markets are almost entirely sepparated,and can easily coexist.due to the open nature of the platform...

STALKER

Rocker6

Yes, never denied consoles suffer from the focus on casual market and yes, theoretically PC can support both markets but the truth is, you just dont see that atm. Are you honestly gonna tell me the "core" market and the casual market are equally reparted on PC? The ammount of cheap, simple games still surpass the high budget games on PC while on the HD consoles, even though the casual market is getting bigger each day, the core games are still in bigger number then the casual ones. This can change in the future but atm is what I see.

also I already had seen that report on Zynga. It was to be expected really. The casual market is not a stable one. Casuals come and go but those who live gaming... those are forever

Are you implying that games with lower budgets are "casual"?

Because that is false.Journey didn't have a high budget,do you consider it "casual"?

STALKER had a low budget,yet I consider it more "core" than any console game.Same goes for Witcher 1...

fine, take "big budget" and replace with "core" or somethin similar

[QUOTE="ebrezzy1"]

They ain't Kings

They Bastard childs of gaming (game of thones ref)

WiiCubeM1

I see them more like the Titans.

The first gamers, the oldest gamers, the gamers that gave rise to the consolites (the Olympians). As they continued ruling using the old ways, the consoleites, rising in power and influence, stood up and overthrew the PC gamers. Now they wait, broken, forgotten, and angry, as the consolites bask as the new reigning champions of gaming. The PC gamers claim they are the master race, the first race, and that their ways are better, but while they are the most powerful, they are the most dated and their era is long past. They are relics of the past, doomed to grovel at their offsprings feet but will continue to deny their current place in the gaming pantheon.

Technically Console Gaming predates PC.

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

[QUOTE="4dr1el"]

Yes, never denied consoles suffer from the focus on casual market and yes, theoretically PC can support both markets but the truth is, you just dont see that atm. Are you honestly gonna tell me the "core" market and the casual market are equally reparted on PC? The ammount of cheap, simple games still surpass the high budget games on PC while on the HD consoles, even though the casual market is getting bigger each day, the core games are still in bigger number then the casual ones. This can change in the future but atm is what I see.

also I already had seen that report on Zynga. It was to be expected really. The casual market is not a stable one. Casuals come and go but those who live gaming... those are forever

4dr1el

Are you implying that games with lower budgets are "casual"?

Because that is false.Journey didn't have a high budget,do you consider it "casual"?

STALKER had a low budget,yet I consider it more "core" than any console game.Same goes for Witcher 1...

fine, take "big budget" and replace with "core" or somethin similar

So,now you want to say that PC has more "casual" than "core" titles?

Could you define exactly what is considered "core",and what is considered "casual"?

And when you do that,could you back up your assertion with some numerical evidence?

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[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

Please,stop...

Haven't you butchered enough brains for today already?

BPoole96

can you breathe outside of WoW I was just wondering ?

i know i know

feel the butthurt n understand what is really is

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They ain't Kings

They Bastard childs of gaming (game of thones ref)

ebrezzy1

I see them more like the Titans.

The first gamers, the oldest gamers, the gamers that gave rise to the consolites (the Olympians). As they continued ruling using the old ways, the consoleites, rising in power and influence, stood up and overthrew the PC gamers. Now they wait, broken, forgotten, and angry, as the consolites bask as the new reigning champions of gaming. The PC gamers claim they are the master race, the first race, and that their ways are better, but while they are the most powerful, they are the most dated and their era is long past. They are relics of the past, doomed to grovel at their offsprings feet but will continue to deny their current place in the gaming pantheon.

screw anything thats not a gaming first system is what i say

get gaming back again

pc gaming tablet gaming cell phone gaming is killing gaming