Ridding ourselves of Consoles

[QUOTE="BPoole96"][QUOTE="ebrezzy1"]

can you breathe outside of WoW I was just wondering ?

ebrezzy1

i know i know

feel the butthurt n understand what is really is

So,mouse=sperm? :?

That means humanity cannot exist without mices,which brings us to the point that humantiy cannot exist without the PC,since mices were invented out of necessity to improve PC interfaces..

[QUOTE="BPoole96"][QUOTE="ebrezzy1"]

can you breathe outside of WoW I was just wondering ?

ebrezzy1

i know i know

feel the butthurt n understand what is really is

No because then we wouldn't have as many people putting money into gaming. herp de derr

[QUOTE="ebrezzy1"]

[QUOTE="WiiCubeM1"]

I see them more like the Titans.

The first gamers, the oldest gamers, the gamers that gave rise to the consolites (the Olympians). As they continued ruling using the old ways, the consoleites, rising in power and influence, stood up and overthrew the PC gamers. Now they wait, broken, forgotten, and angry, as the consolites bask as the new reigning champions of gaming. The PC gamers claim they are the master race, the first race, and that their ways are better, but while they are the most powerful, they are the most dated and their era is long past. They are relics of the past, doomed to grovel at their offsprings feet but will continue to deny their current place in the gaming pantheon.

AmazonTreeBoa

screw anything thats not a gaming first system is what i say

get gaming back again

pc gaming tablet gaming cell phone gaming is killing gaming

right

so how much did you pay to turn your PC into a console system w/ pretty in mind ?

Yes I would prefer a none console world with all games being made on PC.

jelly also confirmed

Could you define exactly what is considered "core",and what is considered "casual"?

Rocker6

Yes, I can

Casual - Pointed at people that want their fix for when they feel bored, dont offer a challenge i.e. FB games, most F2P games (LoL is a casual game imo, its pretty accessible for the most part), most flash games (and yes, I know SMB born from a flash game thus why the "most").

Core - Games that require time and a little patience, normally complex both in narrative as/or in gameplay, offer a challenge for the most part, requires us to involve profoundly on its gameplay in order to beat it i.e. RPGs, FPS, HnS, TPS, etc etc

[QUOTE="ebrezzy1"]

[QUOTE="BPoole96"] Can you breathe after playing Kane and Lynch 2 Dog Days?BPoole96

i know i know

feel the butthurt n understand what is really is

maybe you would like to enlighten the masses on how the basic function of the point n click wii mote is not the same as the basic point n click functions of a mouse ?

plz do tell me how its different ... cuz we all know the Wii mote make games easier to pick up n play ... much like a mouse then seeing as its the same thing really

You're an idiot. PC gaming was around long before consoles.AmazonTreeBoa

No it was not. The 1st games were on PC yes but GAMING as we know today started on both arcades as on home consoles. Pong was the first videogame success

PC having the 1st games =/= PC gaming was the first to appear

there ain't no plucking PC

GTFO bastard childs of gaming

[QUOTE="BPoole96"][QUOTE="ebrezzy1"]

i know i know

feel the butthurt n understand what is really is

ebrezzy1

maybe you would like to enlighten the masses on how the basic function of the point n click wii mote is not the same as the basic point n click functions of a mouse ?

plz do tell me how its different ... cuz we all know the Wii mote make games easier to pick up n play ... much like a mouse then seeing as its the same thing really

PC gamers jelly of consoles again, and up to their eyeballs in buyer's remorse. Making "I wish" threads about how great it would be if console devs gave a sh!t about making games for PC. For shame TC, for shame.

inb4 elitist scum call me a console peasant

inb4uall

[QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"]

You're an idiot. PC gaming was around long before consoles.4dr1el

No it was not. The 1st games were on PC yes but GAMING as we know today started on both arcades as on home consoles. Pong was the first videogame success

PC having the 1st games =/= PC gaming was the first to appear

[QUOTE="ebrezzy1"]

[QUOTE="BPoole96"] No joke that is one of the most idiotic things I have ever read on SW. Your previous comment in this thread is up there as well. Keep it up champ. Making stupid comments and having people laugh at your stupid comments does not make them butthurt.BPoole96

maybe you would like to enlighten the masses on how the basic function of the point n click wii mote is not the same as the basic point n click functions of a mouse ?

plz do tell me how its different ... cuz we all know the Wii mote make games easier to pick up n play ... much like a mouse then seeing as its the same thing really

fail

its 1 to 1 with Wii motion plus

your telling me you can get more precise then a 1 to 1 ratio

[QUOTE="4dr1el"]

[QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"]

No it was not. The 1st games were on PC yes but GAMING as we know today started on both arcades as on home consoles. Pong was the first videogame success

PC having the 1st games =/= PC gaming was the first to appear

princeofshapeir

PC gaming was around long before consoles.AmazonTreeBoa

^^^

???

Many of you are forgetting the fact you can use a wii remote (with motion plus) with a PC (you'll just need special 3rd party software), if you didn't know that before now you do. Many of you are also forgetting that TB3 could start developing various peripherals for the PC if needs be for general developer creativity or consumer demand. What was once something 3rd party, could be made 1st party. If that makes sense.

None the less, I seriously doubt your biggest concerns would be peripherals...

Anyways, I got more replies than expected thanks for the feedback!

[QUOTE="4dr1el"]

[QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"] He never said that.princeofshapeir

PC gaming was around long before consoles.AmazonTreeBoa

^^^

???

Naw, not a fan of PC gaming; most guys prefer to lose their virginity.

[QUOTE="BPoole96"][QUOTE="ebrezzy1"]

maybe you would like to enlighten the masses on how the basic function of the point n click wii mote is not the same as the basic point n click functions of a mouse ?

plz do tell me how its different ... cuz we all know the Wii mote make games easier to pick up n play ... much like a mouse then seeing as its the same thing really

ebrezzy1

fail

its 1 to 1 with Wii motion plus

your telling me you can get more precise then a 1 to 1 ratio

Naw, not a fan of PC gaming; most guys prefer to lose their virginity.

TopTierHustler

Don't lie. Console gamers couldn't get their cherry popped either.

[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"][QUOTE="4dr1el"] He never said that.4dr1el

PC gaming was around long before consoles.AmazonTreeBoa

^^^

???

[QUOTE="4dr1el"]

[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"]

[QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"]PC gaming was around long before consoles.princeofshapeir

^^^

???

What? how are they different in this context? Neither (and I'm pretty sure they're the same) is true.

The machine with PONG was a home console ya know?

Naw, not a fan of PC gaming; most guys prefer to lose their virginity.

TopTierHustler

In a perfect world, there would be only one system with the power of a supercomputer, the energy consumption and size of a cell phone and a very small price.

But the world isn't perfect. Far from it actually.

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

Could you define exactly what is considered "core",and what is considered "casual"?

4dr1el

Yes, I can

Casual - Pointed at people that want their fix for when they feel bored, dont offer a challenge i.e. FB games, most F2P games (LoL is a casual game imo, its pretty accessible for the most part), most flash games (and yes, I know SMB born from a flash game thus why the "most").

Core - Games that require time and a little patience, normally complex both in narrative as/or in gameplay, offer a challenge for the most part, requires us to involve profoundly on its gameplay in order to beat it i.e. RPGs, FPS, HnS, TPS, etc etc

And what say you about browser based games,like these?

Are they counted as PC games too?

Because if yes,then true,we could say PC has more casual games,there are infinite numbers of browser games around.Although I never saw anyone raise that point,don't know if SW considers them games that can be used in debates...

In a perfect world, there would be only one system with the power of a supercomputer, the energy consumption and size of a cell phone and a very small price.

But the world isn't perfect. Far from it actually.

nameless12345

I'm aware of that, but as you can see, many people don't want only one system. I was just curious as to who thought ridding ourselves of consoles would be a good idea. I also wanted to know the various cons. Imagine if all developers dropped support for consoles, would you support this? Simply invoking a perfectionist scenario was not the intended goal at all.

Naw, not a fan of PC gaming; most guys prefer to lose their virginity.

TopTierHustler

Ah,the virginity projection...

Looks like you're another one of those guys on the Internet who are having some large personal issues with their virginity,so are projecting it to other people,to boost their self-confidence,and feel better ;)

[QUOTE="4dr1el"]

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

Could you define exactly what is considered "core",and what is considered "casual"?

Rocker6

Yes, I can

Casual - Pointed at people that want their fix for when they feel bored, dont offer a challenge i.e. FB games, most F2P games (LoL is a casual game imo, its pretty accessible for the most part), most flash games (and yes, I know SMB born from a flash game thus why the "most").

Core - Games that require time and a little patience, normally complex both in narrative as/or in gameplay, offer a challenge for the most part, requires us to involve profoundly on its gameplay in order to beat it i.e. RPGs, FPS, HnS, TPS, etc etc

And what say you about browser based games,like these?

Are they counted as PC games too?

Because if yes,then true,we could say PC has more casual games,there are infinite numbers of browser games around.Although I never saw anyone raise that point,don't know if SW considers them games that can be used in debates...

Dont know bout SW but yes, I do count them as PC games They're games, wich you can only play on PC so technically they should be counted. I always thought when PC gamers said PC has more games then the 3 consoles combined, they were: 1) or counting with previous gens games or 2) counting these browser kind of games. Cause this gen alone, if you dont count FB and browser games I dont see PC having more games... I can be wrong cause I never counted them but I honestly dont see it, especially when XBLA has pretty much the same (if not more) indie titles as PC

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

In a perfect world, there would be only one system with the power of a supercomputer, the energy consumption and size of a cell phone and a very small price.

But the world isn't perfect. Far from it actually.

JustinCoplen

I'm aware of that, but as you can see, many people don't want only one system. I was just curious as to who thought ridding ourselves of consoles would be a good idea. I also wanted to know the various cons. Imagine if all developers dropped support for consoles, would you support this? Simply invoking a perfectionist scenario was not the intended goal at all.

No, I think consoles can coexist with PCs and other type of gaming-capable devices. And there is a reason why consoles exist - they are profitable for their makers. If they wouldn't be, there would be no consoles. I also don't believe in the concept of "holding back". Low-end PCs are "holding back" gaming just as much as consoles are.

Of course it would be nice if all games were for one platform but like I said before that's utopic to expect.

if all developers dropped support for consoles, would you support this?

JustinCoplen

Off course not. But what are you trying to say with this? It goes both ways. If all developers dropped support for PC, would you continue supporting it?

[QUOTE="WiiCubeM1"]

The first gamers, the oldest gamers

4dr1el

Not really. Even though the 1st videogames were made on PC (well, obviously) gaming as a hobby started with teh arcades and home consoles being PONG the first videogame success. Any older gamer would be lying if he tells you he started gaming on PC. In my point of view, the Arcade gamers are the oldest and first gamers. And the arcades are like the "mothers" of the current home consoles basically

Well, the whole rant was just for fun, not entirely popular opinion or fact. Gaming was popularized on the Atari and NES, but it's the most common hermit argument that they game on the oldest gaming machines, how they are "the original gamers". I can say that my first years gaming were mostly done on PC, with DOOM, Fallout, Wasteland, and a few obscure titles I used to play all the time, but I had a Genesis most of this time and consoles existed way before my time.

But, to argue facts, one of the first video games (that can be classified as a modern video game) was Spacewar, which was created in 1962 for old home computers. The first console was the Oddysey, which began development in 1966, but didn't have a working prototype until 1968.

[QUOTE="JustinCoplen"]

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

No, I think consoles can coexist with PCs and other type of gaming-capable devices. And there is a reason why consoles exist - they are profitable for their makers. If they wouldn't be, there would be no consoles. I also don't believe in the concept of "holding back". Low-end PCs are "holding back" gaming just as much as consoles are.

Of course it would be nice if all games were for one platform but like I said before that's utopic to expect.

nameless12345

[QUOTE="JustinCoplen"]

if all developers dropped support for consoles, would you support this?

4dr1el

Off course not. But what are you trying to say with this? It goes both ways. If all developers dropped support for PC, would you continue supporting it?

I'm sorry I suppose I meant enjoy or be happy with, not support.

But, to argue facts, one of the first video games (that can be classified as a modern video game) was Spacewar, which was created in 1962 for old home computers. The first console was the Oddysey, which began development in 1966, but didn't have a working prototype until 1968.

WiiCubeM1

Yes, I know. As I said, the 1st videogames were made for PC but gaming as we know it begun with PONG

[QUOTE="TopTierHustler"]

Naw, not a fan of PC gaming; most guys prefer to lose their virginity.

BPoole96

PC elitism shines again in this thread.

[QUOTE="BPoole96"][QUOTE="TopTierHustler"]

Naw, not a fan of PC gaming; most guys prefer to lose their virginity.

TopTierHustler

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

[QUOTE="4dr1el"]

Yes, I can

Casual - Pointed at people that want their fix for when they feel bored, dont offer a challenge i.e. FB games, most F2P games (LoL is a casual game imo, its pretty accessible for the most part), most flash games (and yes, I know SMB born from a flash game thus why the "most").

Core - Games that require time and a little patience, normally complex both in narrative as/or in gameplay, offer a challenge for the most part, requires us to involve profoundly on its gameplay in order to beat it i.e. RPGs, FPS, HnS, TPS, etc etc

4dr1el

And what say you about browser based games,like these?

Are they counted as PC games too?

Because if yes,then true,we could say PC has more casual games,there are infinite numbers of browser games around.Although I never saw anyone raise that point,don't know if SW considers them games that can be used in debates...

Dont know bout SW but yes, I do count them as PC games They're games, wich you can only play on PC so technically they should be counted. I always thought when PC gamers said PC has more games then the 3 consoles combined, they were: 1) or counting with previous gens games or 2) counting these browser kind of games. Cause this gen alone, if you dont count FB and browser games I dont see PC having more games... I can be wrong cause I never counted them but I honestly dont see it, especially when XBLA has pretty much the same (if not more) indie titles as PC

*sigh*

Without numbers,I think this is not getting us anywhere.It's also highly debatable should browser-based games be counted as PC games,or should only titles that can be run locally count?

Then also,can we assume all of those browser-based games are "casual" by deffault?

Many of them could have apects like challenge,patience requirments,etc...

We can only assume here,and what's the point in that?

This is a dead end,honestly...

[QUOTE="BPoole96"][QUOTE="TopTierHustler"]

Naw, not a fan of PC gaming; most guys prefer to lose their virginity.

TopTierHustler

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

And miss 99% of gaming ?

PC has no Fable, Zelda, Halo, Gears, JRPGs etc etc etc

It is a disaster, while consoles have 1000x more exclusives i want than PC and all PC games i need like Witcher 2

4dr1el

I'd just like to confirm something... arent you the famous labwarrior from GameTrailers?

There is a "myth" about a fanboy bigger then all other fanboys on those forums, a user named labwarrior aka the king of fanboys and, second some users there, his love for the 360 was sickening. I'm just wondering if its really you...

I could PM you the answer, but i cant go public on something like that :)

[QUOTE="4dr1el"]

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

And miss 99% of gaming ?

PC has no Fable, Zelda, Halo, Gears, JRPGs etc etc etc

It is a disaster, while consoles have 1000x more exclusives i want than PC and all PC games i need like Witcher 2

loosingENDS

I'd just like to confirm something... arent you the famous labwarrior from GameTrailers?

There is a "myth" about a fanboy bigger then all other fanboys on those forums, a user named labwarrior aka the king of fanboys and, second some users there, his love for the 360 was sickening. I'm just wondering if its really you...

I could PM you the answer, but i cant go public on something like that :)

Its ok, everyone already knows, Saolin232, Ablefa3, Labwarrior, theseekar all one in the same, banned across multiple times on loads of sites, but always returns to fight the good fight.

And miss 99% of gaming ?

PC has no Fable, Zelda, Halo, Gears, JRPGs etc etc etc

It is a disaster, while consoles have 1000x more exclusives i want than PC and all PC games i need like Witcher 2

loosingENDS

I'd prefer we do away with crappy handheld/iOS games before consoles. Plus I'd only do away with consoles if PCs became radically easier to approach and play a game. Consoles are great because it's simply A) insert disc, then B) play. Due to that mode of operation, there are gamers out there who wouldn't be otherwise. Sure, I suppose that means we have more 12 year old COD players as a result, but I say that's better than not having them.

Basinboy

yeah clicking the install button and once that is done the play button in steam is so complicated :roll:

Gotta love this debate, while console gamers are happy with all great games they get PC elitist get mad and try convince them they cant be happy unless they play PC :lol:

Only the most arrogant and stupid of PC Elitists would actually vote yes to this.

lx_theo

I thought the herms were above this. No matter what I feel about any faction, i'd never want any side to leave.

-

It's also arrogant to think gamers would all jump to the PC as well. I like the odd PC game but i'd never go completely.

I'd likely give up gaming to a large degree if consoles ceased.

Also digital distribution is no where near good enough. Until most people have fibre optic broadband, Blu Ray is easily the future for next gen. I'm not downloading more than 6-8GB at a time. My download speed is roughly 1MB/sec (8mb/sec plus).

Consoles isn't just a hardware, it's a way of gaming, console centric games would die out on the PC as well.

[QUOTE="TopTierHustler"]

[QUOTE="BPoole96"] Nice to know you have no actual complaints about the PC and just resort to childish insults and stereotypes.BPoole96

If the only option for gaming was a PC or handheld, I would just give up gaming.

Seriously, why are hermits so threatened by consoles?

There wouldn't be any good games to play if consoles disappeared.ispeakfact

I don't even want to imagine the trailer park riots.

[QUOTE="ispeakfact"]There wouldn't be any good games to play if consoles disappeared.tenaka2

I don't even want to imagine the trailer park riots.

If the only option for gaming was a PC or handheld, I would just give up gaming.

Seriously, why are hermits so threatened by consoles?

StormyJoe

Next gen is closing in and PC will stand in the shadows of the mighty Ps4/720 ;)

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="ispeakfact"]There wouldn't be any good games to play if consoles disappeared.ispeakfact

I don't even want to imagine the trailer park riots.

PC won these ports using peaceful protest only:P