Rockstar: the 360 version will be the definitive version

http://www.thebitbag.com/2008/02/23/...-on-gtaiv-dlc/

I posted my bullets from the Microsoft Blogger Breakfast the other day and some info about GTAIV was taken out of context…well sort of. People are claiming that Microsoft announced the game would be as big as Vice City/San Andreas. I posted comments on some of the bullets and putting 2 and 2 together I came up with some facts and opinion on GTAIV. Here are the facts:

* Rockstar has announced that the 360 version will be the definitive version

* Microsoft said at the breakfast that no other platform will get this DLC. It's exclusive to them and to them only. From what was said, and Brian Crecente even questioned it, Playstation 3 won't be getting any additional content for GTAIV. This could mean that they get it later or they get completely different content. We don't know at this time.

* Microsoft paid $50 million for the content. If you haven't been in a coma you should know that entire games have been developed for less than $50 million dollars. If you think that the $50 million is just for some new cars, characters and ice cream truck side missions, you are horribly mistaken.

Now for the opinions:

* GTA3 was the first in a trilogy of games. Vice City and San Andreas used the same engine that GTA3 was built on.

* Rockstar stated that if the DLC is successful on the 360, it will give them a new outlet for releasing content. A monkey could figure out that with GTAIV, they could release a GTAIV Palm Beach Stories and GTAIV New Jack City games strictly through downloads

* $50 million is in Rockstars pockets right now. This is before ANY game sales. It's almost free money. Rockstar knows good business and this is good business. Just like it was good business when Sony paid them for a 1 year exclusivity on GTA3. Microsoft knows that GTA3 is the game that pretty much gave the PS2 so much success. They aren't just gonna sit back and let it happen again. Now it's their turn. Who knows, with GTAV Sony may get the jump on MS. Touche!

* You can expect this content to be huge. I'd say several gigs worth. Since there's no manufacturing cost involved and the game could cost between $19-$29 dollars. Again, we aren't talking new car and music downloads. This DLC will most likely be a huge assortment of missions and new areas opened up. It may even be a brand new storyline using the GTAIV engine. Also, you know that with GTA3, Vice City and San Andreas were released shortly after the first game. Expect the same to happen with GTAIV.

* If you have both the 360 and the PS3 and you choose the PS3 version, you will be missing out on some great content. Either way, both versions of the original game will be awesome and no one should feel bad about that.

if xbox360 is soo great as many claim why does ms have to go and give rockstar 50 millon dollars just to have an upper hand for gta4?

if xbox360 is soo great as many claim why does ms have to go and give rockstar 50 millon dollars just to have an upper hand for gta4?

Frier6000

Business kid, business...

if xbox360 is soo great as many claim why does ms have to go and give rockstar 50 millon dollars just to have an upper hand for gta4?

Frier6000

if xbox360 is soo great as many claim why does ms have to go and give rockstar 50 millon dollars just to have an upper hand for gta4?

Frier6000

The Playstation name has been around for 14 years.

if xbox360 is soo great as many claim why does ms have to go and give rockstar 50 millon dollars just to have an upper hand for gta4?

Frier6000

The same reason why Sony continues to pay SquareEnix to keep Final Fantasy games on the Playstation platform. Same reason Sony paid Rockstar millions to have their own exclusive new IP from them. :roll:

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[QUOTE="Frier6000"]

if xbox360 is soo great as many claim why does ms have to go and give rockstar 50 millon dollars just to have an upper hand for gta4?

stereointegrity

Sony has been doing this for years, so i guess Sony is ruining the gaming market as well. How many exclusive games have Sony paid for in the last 10yrs? I rest my case.

[QUOTE="Frier6000"]

if xbox360 is soo great as many claim why does ms have to go and give rockstar 50 millon dollars just to have an upper hand for gta4?

stereointegrity

This absolutely makes no sense...without the cash thrown their way, then there wouldn't have been any extra content for all we know..so how is more gameplay a bad thing exactly? Or are you just speaking from your narrow minded fanboy perspective, which you probably are. And I wasn't aware that MSFT bought Rockstar from 2k games o.0

Wow, 50M I just saw some guy here bragging about how some game has a budget of 40M and was talking about how big a deal it was. I wish I could remember which title it was.

Btw, R* are my heros, they took money for PS2 exclusivity and they took money for 360 extra content these guys make great gangster games because they are straight up criminals. :lol:

The games going to be great no matter what version you get. black_awpN1

So sad that so many people fail to realize that.

[QUOTE="Frier6000"]

if xbox360 is soo great as many claim why does ms have to go and give rockstar 50 millon dollars just to have an upper hand for gta4?

blackace

The same reason why Sony continues to pay SquareEnix to keep Final Fantasy games on the Playstation platform. Same reason Sony paid Rockstar millions to have their own exclusive new IP from them. :roll:

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[QUOTE="Frier6000"]

if xbox360 is soo great as many claim why does ms have to go and give rockstar 50 millon dollars just to have an upper hand for gta4?

stereointegrity

Sony has been doing this for years, so i guess Sony is ruining the gaming market as well. How many exclusive games have Sony paid for in the last 10yrs? I rest my case.

Sony paid Rockstar, but not Square-Enix. They paid for production and part of the development of FFVII because Squaresoft did not have the money back then (Nintendo cut them off partway into the devlopment on N64), and then it became one of the greatest games ever. That is why Sqaure-Enix loves Sony.

and yet im still buying the ps3 version. hmm...kool-aids

Your opinion. Many see this as kind of an expansion pack. Also, you only own a PS3, so not much choice there.

[QUOTE="blackace"][QUOTE="Frier6000"]

if xbox360 is soo great as many claim why does ms have to go and give rockstar 50 millon dollars just to have an upper hand for gta4?

X_CAPCOM_X

The same reason why Sony continues to pay SquareEnix to keep Final Fantasy games on the Playstation platform. Same reason Sony paid Rockstar millions to have their own exclusive new IP from them. :roll:

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[QUOTE="Frier6000"]

if xbox360 is soo great as many claim why does ms have to go and give rockstar 50 millon dollars just to have an upper hand for gta4?

stereointegrity

Sony has been doing this for years, so i guess Sony is ruining the gaming market as well. How many exclusive games have Sony paid for in the last 10yrs? I rest my case.

Sony paid Rockstar, but not Square-Enix. They paid for production and part of the development of FFVII because Squaresoft did not have the money back then (Nintendo cut them off partway into the devlopment on N64), and then it became one of the greatest games ever. That is why Sqaure-Enix loves Sony.

No. You have no idea how businesses are run. Seriously, business wants money. Loyalty does nothing for a company if they don't make more cash. There are exclusive contracts companies go under with companies like Sony and Microsoft. Sony is definately making it worthwhile for MGS 4 and FF series to be on PS3.

[QUOTE="Frier6000"]

if xbox360 is soo great as many claim why does ms have to go and give rockstar 50 millon dollars just to have an upper hand for gta4?

blackace

The same reason why Sony continues to pay SquareEnix to keep Final Fantasy games on the Playstation platform. Same reason Sony paid Rockstar millions to have their own exclusive new IP from them. :roll:

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[QUOTE="Frier6000"]

if xbox360 is soo great as many claim why does ms have to go and give rockstar 50 millon dollars just to have an upper hand for gta4?

stereointegrity

Sony has been doing this for years, so i guess Sony is ruining the gaming market as well. How many exclusive games have Sony paid for in the last 10yrs? I rest my case.

Plz provide a link to this bogus

Sony paid Rockstar, but not Square-Enix. They paid for production and part of the development of FFVII because Squaresoft did not have the money back then (Nintendo cut them off partway into the devlopment on N64), and then it became one of the greatest games ever. That is why Sqaure-Enix loves Sony.

X_CAPCOM_X

You also realize that Sony bought up 20% of Square when they were in real financial trouble after the movie. Sony bailed them out to a degree.

[QUOTE="X_CAPCOM_X"]

Sony paid Rockstar, but not Square-Enix. They paid for production and part of the development of FFVII because Squaresoft did not have the money back then (Nintendo cut them off partway into the devlopment on N64), and then it became one of the greatest games ever. That is why Sqaure-Enix loves Sony.

dkhw

No. You have no idea how businesses are run. Seriously, business wants money. Loyalty does nothing for a company if they don't make more cash. There are exclusive contracts companies go under with companies like Sony and Microsoft. Sony is definately making it worthwhile for MGS 4 and FF series to be on PS3.

Yeah, they have to have some kind of deal with both Konami and SquareEnix, because they're going to severely cut their userbase, and thus their sales by not releasing these huge games on the 360 (which has proven to be a great system for selling games). It's simply math: Why would you not release a game that big on both consoles? Hell, Capcom has been making a killing on the 360, and yet they're still releasing these games on the PS3 as well (DMC4, soon to be Lost Planet). Why? More money.

[QUOTE="Frier6000"]

if xbox360 is soo great as many claim why does ms have to go and give rockstar 50 millon dollars just to have an upper hand for gta4?

stereointegrity

[QUOTE="X_CAPCOM_X"][QUOTE="blackace"][QUOTE="Frier6000"]

if xbox360 is soo great as many claim why does ms have to go and give rockstar 50 millon dollars just to have an upper hand for gta4?

dkhw

The same reason why Sony continues to pay SquareEnix to keep Final Fantasy games on the Playstation platform. Same reason Sony paid Rockstar millions to have their own exclusive new IP from them. :roll:

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[QUOTE="Frier6000"]

if xbox360 is soo great as many claim why does ms have to go and give rockstar 50 millon dollars just to have an upper hand for gta4?

stereointegrity

Sony has been doing this for years, so i guess Sony is ruining the gaming market as well. How many exclusive games have Sony paid for in the last 10yrs? I rest my case.

Sony paid Rockstar, but not Square-Enix. They paid for production and part of the development of FFVII because Squaresoft did not have the money back then (Nintendo cut them off partway into the devlopment on N64), and then it became one of the greatest games ever. That is why Sqaure-Enix loves Sony.

No. You have no idea how businesses are run. Seriously, business wants money. Loyalty does nothing for a company if they don't make more cash. There are exclusive contracts companies go under with companies like Sony and Microsoft. Sony is definately making it worthwhile for MGS 4 and FF series to be on PS3.

There gonna milk the heck out of 360 owners for the DLC, not too cool. I'm gonna wait this out and pick up the PC version. If SA is any indication, it should have a pretty decent mod community, plus, multi-theftauto > single player

http://www.gtagaming.com/sanandreas/

* You can expect this content to be huge. I'd say several gigs worth. Since there's no manufacturing cost involved and the game could cost between $19-$29 dollars. Again, we aren't talking new car and music downloads. This DLC will most likely be a huge assortment of missions and new areas opened up. It may even be a brand new storyline using the GTAIV engine. Also, you know that with GTA3, Vice City and San Andreas were released shortly after the first game. Expect the same to happen with GTAIV.YoshiFan123

I'm not exactly sure what this is supposed to mean.

There gonna milk the heck out of 360 owners for the DLC, not too cool. I'm gonna wait this out and pick up the PC version. If SA is any indication, it should have a pretty decent mod community, plus, multi-theftauto > single player

http://www.gtagaming.com/sanandreas/

mismajor99

console versions of gta4 are going to have a multiplayer component too.

Yeah, they have to have some kind of deal with both Konami and SquareEnix, because they're going to severely cut their userbase, and thus their sales by not releasing these huge games on the 360 (which has proven to be a great system for selling games).SeanBond

Please to note: Konami and Square's profit margins aren't so good in the US. They make more money in the Japanese market.

There gonna milk the heck out of 360 owners for the DLC, not too cool. I'm gonna wait this out and pick up the PC version. If SA is any indication, it should have a pretty decent mod community, plus, multi-theftauto > single player

http://www.gtagaming.com/sanandreas/

mismajor99

Yeah but, don't you want to play GTA4 this decade?

There gonna milk the heck out of 360 owners for the DLC, not too cool. I'm gonna wait this out and pick up the PC version. If SA is any indication, it should have a pretty decent mod community, plus, multi-theftauto > single player

http://www.gtagaming.com/sanandreas/

mismajor99

If you are a console guy you just learn to accept "teh milkage" I'm paying who knows what for GTA4 and the DL's just as I may be paying who knows what for GT5 prologue and then later buying the full game(maybe).

This is another case where the PC has the huge advantage yet I won't let that stop me from playing the console version also.

and yet im still buying the ps3 version. hmm...kool-aids

Thats because your a PS3 fanboy

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[QUOTE="mismajor99"]

There gonna milk the heck out of 360 owners for the DLC, not too cool. I'm gonna wait this out and pick up the PC version. If SA is any indication, it should have a pretty decent mod community, plus, multi-theftauto > single player

http://www.gtagaming.com/sanandreas/

Riverwolf007

If you are a console guy you just learn to accept "teh milkage" I'm paying who knows what for GTA4 and the DL's just as I may be paying who knows what for GT5 prologue and then later buying the full game(maybe).

This is another case where the PC has the huge advantage yet I won't let that stop me from playing the console version also.

I'm a console and pc guy, that plays a lot more pc, but in the end i'm impartial. I've done the same as you with all the GTA's, I've owned them all for console and pc. It does feel like milkage though. I can see the DLC really adding up though over the next few months after it's release. The Game will most likely end up costing well over a 100 bucks when it's all said and done.

IDK I mean paying 50 mill for some add on content is a waste by that time we wouldve already gotten bored of it IMO, and comparing the Ps2's exclusive GTA3 to its success, I dont think the added content would make people say "I am going to buy an Xbox 360 because it has extra GTA IV content"

[QUOTE="kool-aids"]and yet im still buying the ps3 version. hmm...dkhw

Your opinion. Many see this as kind of an expansion pack. Also, you only own a PS3, so not much choice there.

No, it's a fact that he's going to buy the PS3 version because like you said he only has a PS3. I didn't read any opinion in his post at all.

if xbox360 is soo great as many claim why does ms have to go and give rockstar 50 millon dollars just to have an upper hand for gta4?

Frier6000

If the PS3 is so great, why does sony have to give Konami money to keep MSG4 exclusive?

Hmm first rockstar complains of storage space on the ms side of things then announces downloadable content just for the 360. Things that make you go hmmmm. And also most expansion packs is just milk money, it does extend the life of the game but heck your doing the same thing as before when you finished the game the first time. And how long did it take everyone to do all the stuff in the last games. I for one aren't worried by the dlc for the 360 yall can spend that money. I'll just move on to the next great game coming and spend it there. cupsta

Rockstar complained about M$ not allowing to install important data on the hard drive, and this problem has been worked around. You can't really think that R* are going to add the DLC on the PS3 disc. The rest of your post is just you trying to convince yourself that you don't want the DLC, which is called denial.

http://www.thebitbag.com/2008/02/23/...-on-gtaiv-dlc/

I posted my bullets from the Microsoft Blogger Breakfast the other day and some info about GTAIV was taken out of context…well sort of. People are claiming that Microsoft announced the game would be as big as Vice City/San Andreas. I posted comments on some of the bullets and putting 2 and 2 together I came up with some facts and opinion on GTAIV. Here are the facts:

* Rockstar has announced that the 360 version will be the definitive version

* Microsoft said at the breakfast that no other platform will get this DLC. It's exclusive to them and to them only. From what was said, and Brian Crecente even questioned it, Playstation 3 won't be getting any additional content for GTAIV. This could mean that they get it later or they get completely different content. We don't know at this time.

* Microsoft paid $50 million for the content. If you haven't been in a coma you should know that entire games have been developed for less than $50 million dollars. If you think that the $50 million is just for some new cars, characters and ice cream truck side missions, you are horribly mistaken.

Now for the opinions:

* GTA3 was the first in a trilogy of games. Vice City and San Andreas used the same engine that GTA3 was built on.

* Rockstar stated that if the DLC is successful on the 360, it will give them a new outlet for releasing content. A monkey could figure out that with GTAIV, they could release a GTAIV Palm Beach Stories and GTAIV New Jack City games strictly through downloads

* $50 million is in Rockstars pockets right now. This is before ANY game sales. It's almost free money. Rockstar knows good business and this is good business. Just like it was good business when Sony paid them for a 1 year exclusivity on GTA3. Microsoft knows that GTA3 is the game that pretty much gave the PS2 so much success. They aren't just gonna sit back and let it happen again. Now it's their turn. Who knows, with GTAV Sony may get the jump on MS. Touche!

* You can expect this content to be huge. I'd say several gigs worth. Since there's no manufacturing cost involved and the game could cost between $19-$29 dollars. Again, we aren't talking new car and music downloads. This DLC will most likely be a huge assortment of missions and new areas opened up. It may even be a brand new storyline using the GTAIV engine. Also, you know that with GTA3, Vice City and San Andreas were released shortly after the first game. Expect the same to happen with GTAIV.

* If you have both the 360 and the PS3 and you choose the PS3 version, you will be missing out on some great content. Either way, both versions of the original game will be awesome and no one should feel bad about that.

YoshiFan123

Lmao...well duh...Microsoft DID pay rockstar $50 million. Have to put it to SOME use. :P

Hmm first rockstar complains of storage space on the ms side of things then announces downloadable content just for the 360. Things that make you go hmmmm. And also most expansion packs is just milk money, it does extend the life of the game but heck your doing the same thing as before when you finished the game the first time. And how long did it take everyone to do all the stuff in the last games. I for one aren't worried by the dlc for the 360 yall can spend that money. I'll just move on to the next great game coming and spend it there. And heck I'm concerned now where I'm going to get all the money I'll need for all the great games coming this year for the ps3. Heck I even think when GTA is released is when GT prolouge is released If I'm wrong correct me. And then in june isn't that when Metal Gear comes out and I know haze is in there some where. And dang then around sept KZ2 will be out and god if that isn't enough throw the final baking sauce on that will be RFoM 2 and then I'll be full lol. Yea 360 guys yall may need the dlc but I surely don't my plate is full for 2008!!cupsta

[QUOTE="Frier6000"]

if xbox360 is soo great as many claim why does ms have to go and give rockstar 50 millon dollars just to have an upper hand for gta4?

stereointegrity

microsoft is ruining the market by making exclusive contracts? do you even know why the GTA series took so long to show up on anything but the ps2?

If you have a PS3 and a 360 why one would choose the PS3 version is beyond me.Blackbond

people may still go with the ps3 version because of its controls.