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#51 angelkimne
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Consoles suck. They shouldn't have these problems in the first place. PC >>> Consoles.citizen-zero
Massive :roll:

PC's have just as many possible problems, especially if you build it yourself and only have a waranty on specific peices if none at all. And it's not built by a proffesional/machine like consoles or pre-built PC's.

Not to mention viruses.

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I see a lot of 360 hating threads tonight so now it's time to counter.

People say the RROD is affecting like 70% of consoles . That is false . It's much lower than 30 for the earlier models. Now,,,

RROD :if your 360 breaks warranty most likely covers it , you send it for repairs and get it back in 2-4 weeks . You pay nothing.
Many people have done this and the fact is Microsoft knows how to deal with this.360 has a hige warranty of 3 years

PS3 problems : PS3s have a small warranty of one year

RROD : In the future more RROD proof models are released . Better prevention devices are present ( new intercooler ).I expect
RROD proof consoles to be out by x-mas . The ones now have a reduced chance.

PS3 problems : since the tray doesn't have a disc dust can get in affecting the console. maybe it can minimize the damage since some of you claim it has a curtain thingy.

RROD : There are many tech experts who can fix it for you for cheap .

PS3 : Again , Sony is probably the only one who can do that.

So in concolusion although teh RROD is more common it's not so bad since people can easily deal with it , but if PS3 gets busted your screwed.

AtrumRegina

Don't believe this guy. His quote on my sig just tells me he is just biased. Extremely extremely biased lmao.

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#53 DarkCloud79
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TC, you seem to think that the 360 can only have RROD problems. In fact, like the other consoles, it also has HDD and disk drive problems that are only covered by the 1 year warranty. What you really have is a console that has normal problems plus the RROD problem.
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#54 Snugenz
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I've never had problems with either my PS3 nor my 360 (knock on wood) but your arguement is flawed OP.

RROD is a real issue thats effected tons of customers since the launch of the 360, sure MS have manned up and taken responsibility so its likely the whole issue will be sorted soon with the latest chipsets.

Dust entering the feed drive in the PS3 is silliest issue i've ever heard of, for starters there is a dust curtain at the opening to prevent exactly that and most importantly dust doesnt need a slot at the front of a console to enter it, it can enter any ventilation opening and circulate around the console easily due to the consoles air flow system, so this issue that you claim the PS3 has is in fact an issue for every single electronic device with any type of opening on them. :roll:

Hell, i vacuum my PC atleast once every year for that very reason.

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#55 FFXIII360
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The Wii = crap
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#56 eklineage
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[QUOTE="citizen-zero"]Consoles suck. They shouldn't have these problems in the first place. PC >>> Consoles.angelkimne

Massive :roll:

PC's have just as many possible problems, especially if you build it yourself and only have a waranty on specific peices if none at all. And it's not built by a proffesional/machine like consoles or pre-built PC's.

Not to mention viruses.

usually ppl who build custom pcs know what they are doign :S

PC is better than any console so far.

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#57 angelkimne
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[QUOTE="angelkimne"]

[QUOTE="citizen-zero"]Consoles suck. They shouldn't have these problems in the first place. PC >>> Consoles.eklineage

Massive :roll:

PC's have just as many possible problems, especially if you build it yourself and only have a waranty on specific peices if none at all. And it's not built by a proffesional/machine like consoles or pre-built PC's.

Not to mention viruses.

usually ppl who build custom pcs know what they are doign :S

PC is better than any console so far.

Yes, but was i debating that ??? Are you saying that the Massive, fine-tuned Industrial machines that put together consoles are more likely to go wrong somewhere than one guy who's only done it a few times before, maybe none ???

And i wasn't debating how good consoles compared to PC was either, this thread was never about that.

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#58 eklineage
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[QUOTE="eklineage"][QUOTE="angelkimne"]

[QUOTE="citizen-zero"]Consoles suck. They shouldn't have these problems in the first place. PC >>> Consoles.angelkimne

Massive :roll:

PC's have just as many possible problems, especially if you build it yourself and only have a waranty on specific peices if none at all. And it's not built by a proffesional/machine like consoles or pre-built PC's.

Not to mention viruses.

usually ppl who build custom pcs know what they are doign :S

PC is better than any console so far.

Yes, but was i debating that ??? Are you saying that the Massive, fine-tuned Industrial machines that put together consoles are more likely to go wrong somewhere than one guy who's only done it a few times before, maybe none ???

And i wasn't debating how good consoles compared to PC was either, this thread was never about that.

just saying bud. sory if i offended u.

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#59 angelkimne
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just saying bud. sory if i offended u.

eklineage

Didn't offend me.

But i didn't see the point in you're post.

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#60 delta3074
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are you all stuck in the past? let me refresh you ZEphyr model 360=33% chance of rrod oct 05-aug 07, falcon model 360=13% chance of rrod aug 07- oct- nov 08 basically stop falling back on the old zephyr figures all the time it's old news the current failure rate for the xbox 360 is 13% and the jasper chip set plus relocation of the ram chips will drop this even further, the only reason it's taken MS so long to fix the problem is cos they had to wait for the 65nm gpu chips, once these are in place there will be under 3% rrod cos the 65nm chips give out next to no heat, only cow's choose to ignore the fact that the 360 is getting more reliable, take the 60gb 360 it's still a falcon model but they have relocated the ram chips which has improved the airflow (apparently the ram chips were contributing to the heat problem cos they were blocking heat dissipation) which makes that more reliable, yes RROd is a problem but it;s one that's going away, as for the ps3 can you replace the disc drive yourself if it messes up outside of warranty? cos on the 360 you can. when the rechargable batteries fail in the DS3 (as ALL rechargable batterie do after so many recharges)can you replace the batterie pack? NO you have to go and fork out 35 quid for a new controller, the truth of the matter is RROD may be a @design flaw@ but so is a disk drive that can't be replaced if it breaks and a controller you can;t replace the rechargable batteries in when they die.
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#61 mistervengeance
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LOL

to sum it up actually USING facts;

if you buy a 360 after 3 years you're screwed, while if you buy a ps3 you're good almost undefinately.

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#62 delta3074
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LOL

to sum it up actually USING facts;

if you buy a 360 after 3 years you're screwed, while if you buy a ps3 you're good almost undefinately.

mistervengeance
tat is not a FACT just your opinion.
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#63 Miss_Wacy
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I see a lot of 360 hating threads tonight so now it's time to counter.

People say the RROD is affecting like 70% of consoles . That is false . It's much lower than 30 for the earlier models. Now,,,

RROD :if your 360 breaks warranty most likely covers it , you send it for repairs and get it back in 2-4 weeks . You pay nothing.
Many people have done this and the fact is Microsoft knows how to deal with this.360 has a hige warranty of 3 years

PS3 problems : PS3s have a small warranty of one year

RROD : In the future more RROD proof models are released . Better prevention devices are present ( new intercooler ).I expect
RROD proof consoles to be out by x-mas . The ones now have a reduced chance.

PS3 problems : since the tray doesn't have a disc dust can get in affecting the console. maybe it can minimize the damage since some of you claim it has a curtain thingy.

RROD : There are many tech experts who can fix it for you for cheap .

PS3 : Again , Sony is probably the only one who can do that.

So in concolusion although teh RROD is more common it's not so bad since people can easily deal with it , but if PS3 gets busted your screwed.

AtrumRegina

nice post full of FAIL, i sent my 360 to a so called tech expert to be fixed and it onlyy worked for like 5 mins before RROd its not allways garunteed to work again, got my elite now and it works fine, RROD is there and prob allways will be i dont think itl ever go away

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#64 patrickjw333
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I see a lot of 360 hating threads tonight so now it's time to counter.

People say the RROD is affecting like 70% of consoles . That is false . It's much lower than 30 for the earlier models. Now,,,

RROD :if your 360 breaks warranty most likely covers it , you send it for repairs and get it back in 2-4 weeks . You pay nothing.
Many people have done this and the fact is Microsoft knows how to deal with this.360 has a hige warranty of 3 years

PS3 problems : PS3s have a small warranty of one year

RROD : In the future more RROD proof models are released . Better prevention devices are present ( new intercooler ).I expect
RROD proof consoles to be out by x-mas . The ones now have a reduced chance.

PS3 problems : since the tray doesn't have a disc dust can get in affecting the console. maybe it can minimize the damage since some of you claim it has a curtain thingy.

RROD : There are many tech experts who can fix it for you for cheap .

PS3 : Again , Sony is probably the only one who can do that.

So in concolusion although teh RROD is more common it's not so bad since people can easily deal with it , but if PS3 gets busted your screwed.

AtrumRegina

this post is crazy. so a console that has a 30% failure rate is ok because it has a 3 year warranty? and you are ok buying it and if it breaks waiting up to a month to play? to each its own i guess.................

this is my 4th 360 and if this one breaks i will be done with it. and there is no rrod proof 360 out now or ever coming.

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I see a lot of 360 hating threads tonight so now it's time to counter.

People say the RROD is affecting like 70% of consoles . That is false . It's much lower than 30 for the earlier models. Now,,,

RROD :if your 360 breaks warranty most likely covers it , you send it for repairs and get it back in 2-4 weeks . You pay nothing.
Many people have done this and the fact is Microsoft knows how to deal with this.360 has a hige warranty of 3 years

PS3 problems : PS3s have a small warranty of one year

RROD : In the future more RROD proof models are released . Better prevention devices are present ( new intercooler ).I expect
RROD proof consoles to be out by x-mas . The ones now have a reduced chance.

PS3 problems : since the tray doesn't have a disc dust can get in affecting the console. maybe it can minimize the damage since some of you claim it has a curtain thingy.

RROD : There are many tech experts who can fix it for you for cheap .

PS3 : Again , Sony is probably the only one who can do that.

So in concolusion although teh RROD is more common it's not so bad since people can easily deal with it , but if PS3 gets busted your screwed.

AtrumRegina

Yeah the ps3 can get dust on the blu-ray laser but that's why air cans exist :P whereas i don't see a RROD'd 360 being fixed by just blowing air into it and removing the dust :P and yeah, i bet only sony can make ur console dust free :D lol

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Such a flawed argument, look PS3 is a very stable console and has less then 2% breakdowns while the RROD is widespread and still very much alive. I have heard that up to 30% of 360's can get RROD, maybe its decreased but only slightly. You can't suger coat it with 3 year warranty
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#67 delta3074
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Such a flawed argument, look PS3 is a very stable console and has less then 2% breakdowns while the RROD is widespread and still very much alive. I have heard that up to 30% of 360's can get RROD, maybe its decreased but only slightly. You can't suger coat it with 3 year warrantySwift_Boss_A
i would not call 20% a slight drop, falcon RROD=13%, that's20% down on the zephyr's 33% chance of RROD
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[QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"]Such a flawed argument, look PS3 is a very stable console and has less then 2% breakdowns while the RROD is widespread and still very much alive. I have heard that up to 30% of 360's can get RROD, maybe its decreased but only slightly. You can't suger coat it with 3 year warrantydelta3074
i would not call 20% a slight drop, falcon RROD=13%, that's20% down on the zephyr's 33% chance of RROD

My post was ignored, so I'll say it again. 360 owners should be the ones that are most vocal in their displeasure with the 360 hardware issues. But instead, people like you for God knows why defend it! If you aren't vocal about it nothing will be fixed and they'll do the same **** next generation.

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#69 delta3074
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[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"]Such a flawed argument, look PS3 is a very stable console and has less then 2% breakdowns while the RROD is widespread and still very much alive. I have heard that up to 30% of 360's can get RROD, maybe its decreased but only slightly. You can't suger coat it with 3 year warrantyChutebox

i would not call 20% a slight drop, falcon RROD=13%, that's20% down on the zephyr's 33% chance of RROD

My post was ignored, so I'll say it again. 360 owners should be the ones that are most vocal in their displeasure with the 360 hardware issues. But instead, people like you for God knows why defend it! If you aren't vocal about it nothing will be fixed and they'll do the same **** next generation.

the 360 falcon has a failure rate of 13% FACT all i am doing is stating the truth, which is that the failure rates are coming DOWN which means MS are ALREADY doing something about it, what's the point in trying to get MS to do something they ALREADY are doing and, like most 360 owners, i don't see RROD as this really big evil monster yeah i have had RROD once but hey i'm not going to let it ruin my life.
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"]Such a flawed argument, look PS3 is a very stable console and has less then 2% breakdowns while the RROD is widespread and still very much alive. I have heard that up to 30% of 360's can get RROD, maybe its decreased but only slightly. You can't suger coat it with 3 year warrantydelta3074

i would not call 20% a slight drop, falcon RROD=13%, that's20% down on the zephyr's 33% chance of RROD

My post was ignored, so I'll say it again. 360 owners should be the ones that are most vocal in their displeasure with the 360 hardware issues. But instead, people like you for God knows why defend it! If you aren't vocal about it nothing will be fixed and they'll do the same **** next generation.

the 360 falcon has a failure rate of 13% FACT all i am doing is stating the truth, which is that the failure rates are coming DOWN which means MS are ALREADY doing something about it, what's the point in trying to get MS to do something they ALREADY are doing and, like most 360 owners, i don't see RROD as this really big evil monster yeah i have had RROD once but hey i'm not going to let it ruin my life.

I can't believe it's going over your head. Keep supporting a horrible failure rate, seems like you enjoy it.

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#71 BumFluff122
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cows seem to have forgotten teh DRE and the about 30 million it affected.

There aren't even 30 Million Ps3's sold yet. :roll:

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... The DRE affected PS2's not PS3's.
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#72 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="Evolved_One"]

cows seem to have forgotten teh DRE and the about 30 million it affected.

There aren't even 30 Million Ps3's sold yet. :roll:

BumFluff122

... The DRE affected PS2's not PS3's.


were people here defending DRE like TS here?

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#73 eklineage
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anyhow, just in general. I don't like how the standard of buying consoles is going down. A 3 year warranty does not make the problem go away, this is true. Don't try to defend a problem. Admit that mayb the company ****ed up. Don't support the hardware issue. Companies make mistakes and learn from the comments their customers give whether its on phone or through email. Heck, they probably go through internet sites to see comments on their product.
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#74 BumFluff122
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[QUOTE="BumFluff122"][QUOTE="Evolved_One"]

cows seem to have forgotten teh DRE and the about 30 million it affected.

There aren't even 30 Million Ps3's sold yet. :roll:

Chutebox

... The DRE affected PS2's not PS3's.


were people here defending DRE like TS here?

I don't recall. When I originally joined Gamespot during last gen I didn't spend any time in System Wars. I spent most of my time in the Xbox forums.
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[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="Chutebox"]

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"]Such a flawed argument, look PS3 is a very stable console and has less then 2% breakdowns while the RROD is widespread and still very much alive. I have heard that up to 30% of 360's can get RROD, maybe its decreased but only slightly. You can't suger coat it with 3 year warrantyChutebox

i would not call 20% a slight drop, falcon RROD=13%, that's20% down on the zephyr's 33% chance of RROD

My post was ignored, so I'll say it again. 360 owners should be the ones that are most vocal in their displeasure with the 360 hardware issues. But instead, people like you for God knows why defend it! If you aren't vocal about it nothing will be fixed and they'll do the same **** next generation.

the 360 falcon has a failure rate of 13% FACT all i am doing is stating the truth, which is that the failure rates are coming DOWN which means MS are ALREADY doing something about it, what's the point in trying to get MS to do something they ALREADY are doing and, like most 360 owners, i don't see RROD as this really big evil monster yeah i have had RROD once but hey i'm not going to let it ruin my life.

I can't believe it's going over your head. Keep supporting a horrible failure rate, seems like you enjoy it.

nobody enjoys it when a product breaks, but i choose not to do a song and dance about it when it happens, MS owned up to there mistake, they replace my console for free if it RROD's, and yes i agree even 13% is high, but MS are TRYING to sort the problem out unlike sony who flat out denied the DRE problem with the ps2, i bet it didn't stop you ftom owning a ps2 did it? and yeah i might have to wait a cou[le of weeks for a replacemen i will just find something else to do. i am not going to bin my 360 for a console i really don't like, despite the failure rate as long as MS keep replacong my console when it RROD's i'm happy besides, i have had my falcon for 9 months and have bot had a single problem with it.
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#76 BumFluff122
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I wonder how widespread the disk read errors are on the 360. Granted it doesn;t completely brick your console but it is annoying none the less. Both of my 360 get the disk read errors.
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#77 -Master_St3ve-
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lol RRoD at 30%
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#78 angelkimne
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lol RRoD at 30%-Master_St3ve-
Is that really the best you can do ?? Try to provoke lemmings....
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#79 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="BumFluff122"][QUOTE="Evolved_One"]

cows seem to have forgotten teh DRE and the about 30 million it affected.

There aren't even 30 Million Ps3's sold yet. :roll:

BumFluff122

... The DRE affected PS2's not PS3's.


were people here defending DRE like TS here?

I don't recall. When I originally joined Gamespot during last gen I didn't spend any time in System Wars. I spent most of my time in the Xbox forums.

Well, if they did it's just as silly as this thread.

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Dude, the 360 is junk but really who cares if I worried about reliabilty or got all upset over stuff being junk I would have never liked the PS2 or anything else I buy.

I don't have the mindset or kind of time it takes to sit around sweating it if my belongings are going to break down someday since 99% of everything I have ever bought ended up breaking.

The two seperate PS2 dres that I paid Sony $90 to fix each time did not turn me off Sony and neither does the shoddy quality of the 360.

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#81 Chutebox
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]nobody enjoys it when a product breaks, but i choose not to do a song and dance about it when it happens, MS owned up to there mistake, they replace my console for free if it RROD's, and yes i agree even 13% is high, but MS are TRYING to sort the problem out unlike sony who flat out denied the DRE problem with the ps2, i bet it didn't stop you ftom owning a ps2 did it? and yeah i might have to wait a cou[le of weeks for a replacemen i will just find something else to do. i am not going to bin my 360 for a console i really don't like, despite the failure rate as long as MS keep replacong my console when it RROD's i'm happy besides, i have had my falcon for 9 months and have bot had a single problem with it.delta3074

After 3 years they won't replace jack. After 1 year the DRE problems with 360 means you have to pay for it.

What does this all have to do with Ps3? Ps3 for the most part is built like a tank. It has an more than acceptable failure rate, so all you say means nothing to Ps3 owners.

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[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"]Such a flawed argument, look PS3 is a very stable console and has less then 2% breakdowns while the RROD is widespread and still very much alive. I have heard that up to 30% of 360's can get RROD, maybe its decreased but only slightly. You can't suger coat it with 3 year warrantydelta3074

i would not call 20% a slight drop, falcon RROD=13%, that's20% down on the zephyr's 33% chance of RROD

My post was ignored, so I'll say it again. 360 owners should be the ones that are most vocal in their displeasure with the 360 hardware issues. But instead, people like you for God knows why defend it! If you aren't vocal about it nothing will be fixed and they'll do the same **** next generation.

the 360 falcon has a failure rate of 13% FACT all i am doing is stating the truth, which is that the failure rates are coming DOWN which means MS are ALREADY doing something about it, what's the point in trying to get MS to do something they ALREADY are doing and, like most 360 owners, i don't see RROD as this really big evil monster yeah i have had RROD once but hey i'm not going to let it ruin my life.

I own a 360 and I am not happy with MS. I hate how they kept it hush hush until we all bought one. If this were a TV or something the company would get bashed tons but unfortunately fanboyism is letting MS get away with one of the biggest design flaws in hardware. millions of people are now being screwed over just becuase MS wanted to get in the race first. Its unfair.

And I find it disturbing how MS says they "just found out" whats wrong. Yeah right... I also hate how they plan to bring out the new "better consoles" out around the end of this year. WHEN ALL OUR WARRANTIES RUN OUT. So they think they can just milk us to the high heavens. And not even the new one will be RROD proof!

Mate a 13% faliure rate is still horrendous. Luckily though there are sane people outside of SW that are complaning to MS otherwise we would not even have our warranty. Personally i think the RROD warranty should keep going until MS stop supporting the console.

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#83 SOedipus
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I see a lot of 360 hating threads tonight so now it's time to counter.

People say the RROD is affecting like 70% of consoles . That is false . It's much lower than 30 for the earlier models. Now,,,

RROD :if your 360 breaks warranty most likely covers it , you send it for repairs and get it back in 2-4 weeks . You pay nothing.
Many people have done this and the fact is Microsoft knows how to deal with this.360 has a hige warranty of 3 years

PS3 problems : PS3s have a small warranty of one year

RROD : In the future more RROD proof models are released . Better prevention devices are present ( new intercooler ).I expect
RROD proof consoles to be out by x-mas . The ones now have a reduced chance.

PS3 problems : since the tray doesn't have a disc dust can get in affecting the console. maybe it can minimize the damage since some of you claim it has a curtain thingy.

RROD : There are many tech experts who can fix it for you for cheap .

PS3 : Again , Sony is probably the only one who can do that.

So in concolusion although teh RROD is more common it's not so bad since people can easily deal with it , but if PS3 gets busted your screwed.

AtrumRegina

Who are you arguing for? Let's see some links for proof anyways.

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#84 delta3074
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Dude, the 360 is junk but really who cares if I worried about reliabilty or got all upset over stuff being junk I would have never liked the PS2 or anything else I buy.

I don't have the mindset or kind of time it takes to sit around sweating it if my belongings are going to break down someday since 99% of everything I have ever bought ended up breaking.

The two seperate PS2 dres that I paid Sony $90 to fix each time did not turn me off Sony and neither does the shoddy quality of the 360.

Riverwolf007
cheers, that's what i was trying to say but you put it better
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Very bad argument.
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#86 delta3074
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[QUOTE="delta3074"]]nobody enjoys it when a product breaks, but i choose not to do a song and dance about it when it happens, MS owned up to there mistake, they replace my console for free if it RROD's, and yes i agree even 13% is high, but MS are TRYING to sort the problem out unlike sony who flat out denied the DRE problem with the ps2, i bet it didn't stop you ftom owning a ps2 did it? and yeah i might have to wait a cou[le of weeks for a replacemen i will just find something else to do. i am not going to bin my 360 for a console i really don't like, despite the failure rate as long as MS keep replacong my console when it RROD's i'm happy besides, i have had my falcon for 9 months and have bot had a single problem with it.Chutebox

After 3 years they won't replace jack. After 1 year the DRE problems with 360 means you have to pay for it.

What does this all have to do with Ps3? Ps3 for the most part is built like a tank. It has an more than acceptable failure rate, so all you say means nothing to Ps3 owners.

firstly when i said a console "i really don't like" i meant thw ps3 and the wii, secondly what makes you think i care wether what i say means anything to ps3 owners? i am not tying to "convert" people to buy a 360, buy a 360, don't buy a 360, i really don't care the same as i don't care about RROD. things break, life sucks,move on.
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#87 EPaul
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Not a very good arguement...
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#88 whodey8584
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M$ has had 3 years to clean up the RROD and they still have not. New xbox still have the problem. It doesn't matter if its a smaller percentage it is still way too big. Why buy something that you know will most likely break sooner or later. Thats just dumb. And if your ps3 breaks you just send it in the same way M$ does it.
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I bought a 360 Elite brand new from gamestation, 2 months after i had ring of death. Gamestation would not do anything with it, sent me to microsoft.

Microsoft were very cooperative and replaced it withing 2 weeks..

A few months later I had ring of death again..

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#90 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

[QUOTE="delta3074"]]nobody enjoys it when a product breaks, but i choose not to do a song and dance about it when it happens, MS owned up to there mistake, they replace my console for free if it RROD's, and yes i agree even 13% is high, but MS are TRYING to sort the problem out unlike sony who flat out denied the DRE problem with the ps2, i bet it didn't stop you ftom owning a ps2 did it? and yeah i might have to wait a cou[le of weeks for a replacemen i will just find something else to do. i am not going to bin my 360 for a console i really don't like, despite the failure rate as long as MS keep replacong my console when it RROD's i'm happy besides, i have had my falcon for 9 months and have bot had a single problem with it.delta3074

After 3 years they won't replace jack. After 1 year the DRE problems with 360 means you have to pay for it.

What does this all have to do with Ps3? Ps3 for the most part is built like a tank. It has an more than acceptable failure rate, so all you say means nothing to Ps3 owners.

firstly when i said a console "i really don't like" i meant thw ps3 and the wii, secondly what makes you think i care wether what i say means anything to ps3 owners? i am not tying to "convert" people to buy a 360, buy a 360, don't buy a 360, i really don't care the same as i don't care about RROD. things break, life sucks,move on.

You don't even know your own argument?

Why bring up a topic that DEALS with the Ps3 if you don't care what Ps3 owners think?

People like you are why horribly defective hardware continues.

Like I said, everyone who owns a 360, including you and me, should be pissed about this situation and have every right to be pissed.

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#91 delta3074
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I bought a 360 Elite brand new from gamestation, 2 months after i had ring of death. Gamestation would not do anything with it, sent me to microsoft.

Microsoft were very cooperative and replaced it withing 2 weeks..

A few months later I had ring of death again..

sydstoner
are you sure it was gamestation? they replaced my 360 3 times before my years warranty ran out and one was RROD.
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#92 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="sydstoner"]

I bought a 360 Elite brand new from gamestation, 2 months after i had ring of death. Gamestation would not do anything with it, sent me to microsoft.

Microsoft were very cooperative and replaced it withing 2 weeks..

A few months later I had ring of death again..

delta3074

are you sure it was gamestation? they replaced my 360 3 times before my years warranty ran out and one was RROD.

Most, if not all stores only replace something within 30 days of purchase. Then it's the manufactures responsibility.

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[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

Dude, the 360 is junk but really who cares if I worried about reliabilty or got all upset over stuff being junk I would have never liked the PS2 or anything else I buy.

I don't have the mindset or kind of time it takes to sit around sweating it if my belongings are going to break down someday since 99% of everything I have ever bought ended up breaking.

The two seperate PS2 dres that I paid Sony $90 to fix each time did not turn me off Sony and neither does the shoddy quality of the 360.

delta3074

cheers, that's what i was trying to say but you put it better

I think here in SW it all comes down to perspective, a board full of young people that have not been beat down by the world yet want to be all indignant over reliability, while anyone that's lived in the real world for a few years just gets resigned to faulty products and kind of gives up on it at some point when they realize that the energy it takes to be all pissed off all the time is just not worth it.

A few months back everyone was all harping on how crappy the 360 is and all I could do was think what a joke it was since I had just payed $2000 to replace a five year old fridge and then a week later had a $1600 car repair bill.

Sure it's a bummer and it may not be cool or right or whatever but you either accept things for the way they are or stay miserable for the rest of your life.

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#94 delta3074
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[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="Chutebox"]

[QUOTE="delta3074"]]nobody enjoys it when a product breaks, but i choose not to do a song and dance about it when it happens, MS owned up to there mistake, they replace my console for free if it RROD's, and yes i agree even 13% is high, but MS are TRYING to sort the problem out unlike sony who flat out denied the DRE problem with the ps2, i bet it didn't stop you ftom owning a ps2 did it? and yeah i might have to wait a cou[le of weeks for a replacemen i will just find something else to do. i am not going to bin my 360 for a console i really don't like, despite the failure rate as long as MS keep replacong my console when it RROD's i'm happy besides, i have had my falcon for 9 months and have bot had a single problem with it.Chutebox

After 3 years they won't replace jack. After 1 year the DRE problems with 360 means you have to pay for it.

What does this all have to do with Ps3? Ps3 for the most part is built like a tank. It has an more than acceptable failure rate, so all you say means nothing to Ps3 owners.

firstly when i said a console "i really don't like" i meant thw ps3 and the wii, secondly what makes you think i care wether what i say means anything to ps3 owners? i am not tying to "convert" people to buy a 360, buy a 360, don't buy a 360, i really don't care the same as i don't care about RROD. things break, life sucks,move on.

You don't even know your own argument?

Why bring up a topic that DEALS with the Ps3 if you don't care what Ps3 owners think?

People like you are why horribly defective hardware continues.

Like I said, everyone who owns a 360, including you and me, should be pissed about this situation and have every right to be pissed.

firstly, i wasn't arguing with anyone, i'm just stateing my opinion thats all, you are trying to pick an argument with me and i'm telling you now it ain't gonna happen, as far as i'm concerned MS are doing nothing wrong, i chose to buy the 360 they didn't fotce me to, and i'm sorry to dissapoint you, but my experience with the 360 has been a good one and i'm really enjoying my 360.
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#95 delta3074
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[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="sydstoner"]

I bought a 360 Elite brand new from gamestation, 2 months after i had ring of death. Gamestation would not do anything with it, sent me to microsoft.

Microsoft were very cooperative and replaced it withing 2 weeks..

A few months later I had ring of death again..

Chutebox

are you sure it was gamestation? they replaced my 360 3 times before my years warranty ran out and one was RROD.

Most, if not all stores only replace something within 30 days of purchase. Then it's the manufactures responsibility.

gamestation uk give a years warranty on all consoles, including preowned one's this is the UK mate EVERY store gives a one year warranty on all electrical products.
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Here are some facts:

360 - I've had one die on me, forcing me to deal with 2 refurbished units, which also either died or came back with issues it didn't have when it was shipped off. My brother is on his 3rd newly purchased 360. Brand new. He never sent any to the refurb shop. All his old ones straigt up died. RROD. No issues other than RROD to speak of.

PS3 - My brother's PS3 died on him after seeing minimal use over 14 months. And when I say minimal, I mean maybe 10 hours total play time. It probably spent more time downloading OS updates than gaming. Yet and still, yellow light of death (YLOD). My PS3 has had cancer-like issues since the beginning. BlueTooth has a mind of its own sometimes, causing the controller to malfunction and cease controlling the game for a few seconds. Nothing like running through an area in resistance, when you decide you need to try to spin and shoot someone...only for your character to keep running in the same direction (because the Bluetooth is freaking out) costing you a life. Or driving in Burnout and...well you can imagine. Or in SC4 just standing there and getting pummeled in a ranked match because you have no control.

Wii - Has been a rock. it was having issues reading games, but I opened up and cleaned off the laser lens with alcohol and a cotton swab and it worked normally again. Other than that, no problems.

So yea. In my book, neither the PS3 nor the Xbox 360 are without hardware flaws and issues. I've seen more issues than I'd like to see. My brother will have to ship his PS3 in for repair one day. I'll be returning mine while my 1-year extended warranty at EBGames is still valid. Then I'll be on my own with yet another questionable piece of hardware.

Lesson: ALWAYS buy the extended warranty.

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[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="sydstoner"]

I bought a 360 Elite brand new from gamestation, 2 months after i had ring of death. Gamestation would not do anything with it, sent me to microsoft.

Microsoft were very cooperative and replaced it withing 2 weeks..

A few months later I had ring of death again..

delta3074

are you sure it was gamestation? they replaced my 360 3 times before my years warranty ran out and one was RROD.

Most, if not all stores only replace something within 30 days of purchase. Then it's the manufactures responsibility.

gamestation uk give a years warranty on all consoles, including preowned one's this is the UK mate EVERY store gives a one year warranty on all electrical products.

Are you suure ??? *squints at sig*
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#98 never100
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Oh no people are being mean to my 360. Ok for real people that use RROD to slam a system a people that would throw dirt in a fight. It's cheap and stupid. Yea the first thing anyone wants to hear when their 360 or anything they own breaks is how much it sucked and they sucked for getting it. Oh yea nit picking everything about the PS3 is 10 time as dumb. Flailing your fists around in hopes one hits something.

If your choice of gaming works. Be happy. I promise it won't last forever.

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Here are some facts:

360 - I've had one die on me, forcing me to deal with 2 refurbished units, which also either died or came back with issues it didn't have when it was shipped off. My brother is on his 3rd newly purchased 360. Brand new. He never sent any to the refurb shop. All his old ones straigt up died. RROD. No issues other than RROD to speak of.

PS3 - My brother's PS3 died on him after seeing minimal use over 14 months. And when I say minimal, I mean maybe 10 hours total play time. It probably spent more time downloading OS updates than gaming. Yet and still, yellow light of death (YLOD). My PS3 has had cancer-like issues since the beginning. BlueTooth has a mind of its own sometimes, causing the controller to malfunction and cease controlling the game for a few seconds. Nothing like running through an area in resistance, when you decide you need to try to spin and shoot someone...only for your character to keep running in the same direction (because the Bluetooth is freaking out) costing you a life. Or driving in Burnout and...well you can imagine. Or in SC4 just standing there and getting pummeled in a ranked match because you have no control.

Wii - Has been a rock. it was having issues reading games, but I opened up and cleaned off the laser lens with alcohol and a cotton swab and it worked normally again. Other than that, no problems.

So yea. In my book, neither the PS3 nor the Xbox 360 are without hardware flaws and issues. I've seen more issues than I'd like to see. My brother will have to ship his PS3 in for repair one day. I'll be returning mine while my 1-year extended warranty at EBGames is still valid. Then I'll be on my own with yet another questionable piece of hardware.

Lesson: ALWAYS buy the extended warranty.

Dreams-Visions

I too have see plenty of my friends PS3s die, most of the time due to firmware upgrade faults or YLOD.

On a board full of console misinfomation and myths PS3 reliability may be the biggest one.

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#100 delta3074
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[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="sydstoner"]

I bought a 360 Elite brand new from gamestation, 2 months after i had ring of death. Gamestation would not do anything with it, sent me to microsoft.

Microsoft were very cooperative and replaced it withing 2 weeks..

A few months later I had ring of death again..

angelkimne

are you sure it was gamestation? they replaced my 360 3 times before my years warranty ran out and one was RROD.

Most, if not all stores only replace something within 30 days of purchase. Then it's the manufactures responsibility.

gamestation uk give a years warranty on all consoles, including preowned one's this is the UK mate EVERY store gives a one year warranty on all electrical products.

Are you suure ??? *squints at sig*

yes, in my experience every time i have bought electrical good from gamestation,tesco's,cex,argos,littlewoods,hmv and toys r us,i have had a years store warranty