Rumor: Forza 3 will have 2 discs, 400 cars, more

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#151 dhjohns
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Cows can not say a word about changing discs. It is a minor annoyance and nothing more. Any cow complaining about switching discs should be referred to MGS4. A great game but a 3 minute install in between each act? Seems very similar to switching discs to me.

Note- This is not a shot at MGS4. Absolutely love the game, but anyone without a biased perspective can see the similarities.

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#152 Pro_wrestler
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So you need like 100 instances b4 someone would get sick of shuffling disk, you know that dont make since right?

And yet there are game with no mandatory installs, your feeling is gonna get hurt if you keep talking about blu-ray and installs, not all games need it so why keep talking about it?

CubanBlunt


:| What other grounds are there to complain about something?

Either because you do it all the time- Which we dont
Or because it takes away from the gameplay experiece- Which it doesn't..or else FF7 wouldn't have gotten a 9.5

My point wasn't that "You have to install ps3 games on the harddrive ALL the time" the fact that you have to at all to get equal or better performance over DVD negates those claims of it being superior.

"Get meh feelingz hurt" lulz

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#153 thrones
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[QUOTE="jbz7890"]Forza 2 is the best racing sim ever, and i have no doubt that Forza 3 will be even better.TOAO_Cyrus1

That is plain wrong. GT is a better simulator, but both of them are outdone by pc games in the sims department.

Um the original Forza was much better then GT4 and GT5 isnt even out yet.

Nope. Short of damage, Gran Turismo 4 did almost everything better than Forza Motorsports 1. It was marked down critically for being essentially Gran Turismo 3: A-spec with a new paintjob and extra cars/tracks. But A-spec was far to awesome anyway.

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#154 kozzy1234
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Forza2 is classic and hundreds of maps for forza3 will be crazy!
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#155 CubanBlunt
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[QUOTE="CubanBlunt"]

So you need like 100 instances b4 someone would get sick of shuffling disk, you know that dont make since right?

And yet there are game with no mandatory installs, your feeling is gonna get hurt if you keep talking about blu-ray and installs, not all games need it so why keep talking about it?

Pro_wrestler


:| What other grounds are there to complain about something? New system, old technology...dont make since at all. Who once to technology to stay in 1997, thats right, the 360 fans do!

Either because you do it all the time- Which we dont
Or because it takes away from the gameplay experiece- Which it doesn't..or else FF7 wouldn't have gotten a 9.5

My point wasn't that "You have to install ps3 games on the harddrive ALL the time" the fact that you have to at all to get equal or better performance over DVD negates those claims of it being superior. Again, not all games have to be installed you get the same perfomance as a DVD.......you get one more chance.

"Get meh feelingz hurt" lulz

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#156 masiisam
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[QUOTE="TOAO_Cyrus1"][QUOTE="leejohnson7"]

[QUOTE="jbz7890"]Forza 2 is the best racing sim ever, and i have no doubt that Forza 3 will be even better.thrones

That is plain wrong. GT is a better simulator, but both of them are outdone by pc games in the sims department.

Um the original Forza was much better then GT4 and GT5 isnt even out yet.

Nope. Short of damage,Gran Turismo 4 did almost everything better than Forza Motorsports 1. It was marked down critically for being essentially Gran Turismo 3: A-spec with a new paintjob and extra cars/tracks. But A-spec was far to awesome anyway.

Short of damage?...come on now thrones

Then why did not the reviews reflect this..Game rankings FM(93) > GT4(89)...........GS..FM (92) > GT4 (89)

My fear is P has shown to do this in the past and GT5 will follow suit..As of right now GT5P IS nothing more than a new paint job....Believe me..... I hope the final build will bring it up to spec with other racers..The genre is to small for them not to..

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#157 Lebron181
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whats great about Forza? GT has 2x the amount of cars Forza 3 will ever have. Plus it got better graphics and better car design also.
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#158 thrones
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[QUOTE="whocares4peace"][QUOTE="thrones"][QUOTE="Eltroz"][QUOTE="thrones"]

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]Forza 2 is the best sim available on consoles. Forza 3 will obliterate everything.Pro_wrestler

Doubt it.

Gran Turismo 4 >>>>>> Forza 1.

Gran Turismo 5 >>>>>> Forza 3.

Forza Motorsports 2 got off lucky.

Forza 1 9.2 >GT4 8.9

Forza 2 9.2 ?? GT5 ( whenever that thing finally comes out we can compare scores )

Forrza 3 ?? GT6 ( Heck at this rate it will be on the PS4 that is of course after a few $40 deoms)

*shrug* Gran Turismo 4 was marked down for being essentially a rehash of Gran Turismo 3: A-spec, but that was godly. Still the best handling and cars though over Forza 1.

And you compare it to games at similar times, not in order. The same reason Call of Duty 4 and Halo 3 are compared.

Forza 1- 3rd May 05

GT4-22nd Feb 05

And Forza outscored GT4 ehere and at GR. You may not agree, but the general consensus is that Forza 1>GT4

Someone got owned.

I was talking about the:

'Forza 2 9.2 ?? GT5 ( whenever that thing finally comes out we can compare scores )

Forrza 3 ?? GT6 ( Heck at this rate it will be on the PS4 that is of course after a few $40 deoms)' bit, as he said GT5 will be compared to Forza 2. Which it won't, it'll be compared to Forza 3.

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#159 thrones
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[QUOTE="thrones"][QUOTE="TOAO_Cyrus1"][QUOTE="leejohnson7"]

[QUOTE="jbz7890"]Forza 2 is the best racing sim ever, and i have no doubt that Forza 3 will be even better.masiisam

That is plain wrong. GT is a better simulator, but both of them are outdone by pc games in the sims department.

Um the original Forza was much better then GT4 and GT5 isnt even out yet.

Nope. Short of damage,Gran Turismo 4 did almost everything better than Forza Motorsports 1. It was marked down critically for being essentially Gran Turismo 3: A-spec with a new paintjob and extra cars/tracks. But A-spec was far to awesome anyway.

Short of damage?...come on now thrones

Then why did not the reviews reflect this..Game rankings FM(93) > GT4(89)...........GS..FM (92) > GT4 (89)

My fear is P has shown to do this in the past and GT5 will follow suit..As of right now GT5P IS nothing more than a new paint job....Believe me..... I hope the final build will bring it up to spec with other racers..The genre is to small for them not to..

Played both. Gran Turismo 4 had far better handling than Forza Motorsports, to be honest :| And looked better and had a better lineup of tracks/cars.

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#160 CMPunk13
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LOL at the pathetic cows in this thread. Both Forza's have owned every GT game and now Forza 3 will put the GT series six feet under. It's also funny how these cows are laughing at 2 discs, but would be okay with a 3 hour install if it was on the PS3.
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#161 CMPunk13
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[QUOTE="masiisam"][QUOTE="thrones"][QUOTE="TOAO_Cyrus1"][QUOTE="leejohnson7"]

[QUOTE="jbz7890"]Forza 2 is the best racing sim ever, and i have no doubt that Forza 3 will be even better.thrones

That is plain wrong. GT is a better simulator, but both of them are outdone by pc games in the sims department.

Um the original Forza was much better then GT4 and GT5 isnt even out yet.

Nope. Short of damage,Gran Turismo 4 did almost everything better than Forza Motorsports 1. It was marked down critically for being essentially Gran Turismo 3: A-spec with a new paintjob and extra cars/tracks. But A-spec was far to awesome anyway.

Short of damage?...come on now thrones

Then why did not the reviews reflect this..Game rankings FM(93) > GT4(89)...........GS..FM (92) > GT4 (89)

My fear is P has shown to do this in the past and GT5 will follow suit..As of right now GT5P IS nothing more than a new paint job....Believe me..... I hope the final build will bring it up to spec with other racers..The genre is to small for them not to..

Played both. Gran Turismo 4 had far better handling than Forza Motorsports, to be honest :| And looked better and had a better lineup of tracks/cars.

:lol: Thanks for the laugh.

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#162 X_CAPCOM_X
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Two disc racing game? How would that work with online?
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#163 JLF1
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[QUOTE="Pro_wrestler"][QUOTE="CubanBlunt"]

Maybe I should have said out dated technology. It was kool to have 2-4 disk back in 1997, its lame for 2008.

CubanBlunt

How was it cool or uncool? There wasn't enough instances were we needed to switch discs so its not as though we've grown weary of the constant shuffling.

Its not any worse then having corporations boast about Blu-ray's capacity only to have mandatory installs on your harddrive.

So you need like 100 instances b4 someone would get sick of shuffling disk, you know that dont make since right?

And yet there are game with no mandatory installs, your feeling is gonna get hurt if you keep talking about blu-ray and installs, not all games need it so why keep talking about it?


There is a lot more PS3 games with mandatory installs then there is 360 games with two discs or more. Why should the 360 need a blu-ray player?
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#164 thrones
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[QUOTE="thrones"][QUOTE="masiisam"][QUOTE="thrones"][QUOTE="TOAO_Cyrus1"][QUOTE="leejohnson7"]

[QUOTE="jbz7890"]Forza 2 is the best racing sim ever, and i have no doubt that Forza 3 will be even better.CMPunk13

That is plain wrong. GT is a better simulator, but both of them are outdone by pc games in the sims department.

Um the original Forza was much better then GT4 and GT5 isnt even out yet.

Nope. Short of damage,Gran Turismo 4 did almost everything better than Forza Motorsports 1. It was marked down critically for being essentially Gran Turismo 3: A-spec with a new paintjob and extra cars/tracks. But A-spec was far to awesome anyway.

Short of damage?...come on now thrones

Then why did not the reviews reflect this..Game rankings FM(93) > GT4(89)...........GS..FM (92) > GT4 (89)

My fear is P has shown to do this in the past and GT5 will follow suit..As of right now GT5P IS nothing more than a new paint job....Believe me..... I hope the final build will bring it up to spec with other racers..The genre is to small for them not to..

Played both. Gran Turismo 4 had far better handling than Forza Motorsports, to be honest :| And looked better and had a better lineup of tracks/cars.

:lol: Thanks for the laugh.

You disagree, good work.

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#165 HuusAsking
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Two disc racing game? How would that work with online?X_CAPCOM_X
Supposedly, online gaming material would be on the second disc.
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#166 masiisam
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[QUOTE="masiisam"][QUOTE="thrones"][QUOTE="TOAO_Cyrus1"][QUOTE="leejohnson7"]

[QUOTE="jbz7890"]Forza 2 is the best racing sim ever, and i have no doubt that Forza 3 will be even better.thrones

That is plain wrong. GT is a better simulator, but both of them are outdone by pc games in the sims department.

Um the original Forza was much better then GT4 and GT5 isnt even out yet.

Nope. Short of damage,Gran Turismo 4 did almost everything better than Forza Motorsports 1. It was marked down critically for being essentially Gran Turismo 3: A-spec with a new paintjob and extra cars/tracks. But A-spec was far to awesome anyway.

Short of damage?...come on now thrones

Then why did not the reviews reflect this..Game rankings FM(93) > GT4(89)...........GS..FM (92) > GT4 (89)

My fear is P has shown to do this in the past and GT5 will follow suit..As of right now GT5P IS nothing more than a new paint job....Believe me..... I hope the final build will bring it up to spec with other racers..The genre is to small for them not to..

Played both. Gran Turismo 4 had far better handling than Forza Motorsports, to be honest :| And looked better and had a better lineup of tracks/cars.

It's fine to have an opinion...but when the scores/reviews show different..then it is just as bad as someone saying MGS4 should have gotten a 5 because."insert opinion"...

You really don't take them to serious...

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#167 thrones
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[QUOTE="X_CAPCOM_X"]Two disc racing game? How would that work with online?HuusAsking
Supposedly, online gaming material would be on the second disc.

What would be the point of two discs? How much extra does going online take? The main storage worry here is 100 tracks.

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#168 thrones
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[QUOTE="thrones"][QUOTE="masiisam"][QUOTE="thrones"][QUOTE="TOAO_Cyrus1"][QUOTE="leejohnson7"]

[QUOTE="jbz7890"]Forza 2 is the best racing sim ever, and i have no doubt that Forza 3 will be even better.masiisam

That is plain wrong. GT is a better simulator, but both of them are outdone by pc games in the sims department.

Um the original Forza was much better then GT4 and GT5 isnt even out yet.

Nope. Short of damage,Gran Turismo 4 did almost everything better than Forza Motorsports 1. It was marked down critically for being essentially Gran Turismo 3: A-spec with a new paintjob and extra cars/tracks. But A-spec was far to awesome anyway.

Short of damage?...come on now thrones

Then why did not the reviews reflect this..Game rankings FM(93) > GT4(89)...........GS..FM (92) > GT4 (89)

My fear is P has shown to do this in the past and GT5 will follow suit..As of right now GT5P IS nothing more than a new paint job....Believe me..... I hope the final build will bring it up to spec with other racers..The genre is to small for them not to..

Played both. Gran Turismo 4 had far better handling than Forza Motorsports, to be honest :| And looked better and had a better lineup of tracks/cars.

It's fine to have an opinion...but when the scores/reviews show different..then it is just as bad as someone saying MGS4 should have gotten a 5 because."insert opinion"...

You really don't take them to serious...

*shrug* It's a small difference as to be debatable.

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#169 Ninja-Hippo
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Two discs for a racing game? WTF? How does that work?f50p90

Career on one disc, multiplayer on the other?

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#170 Ninja-Hippo
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Disc 1 has 400 cars and 100 tracks - complety SP.

Disc 2 has car customization and is online only.

Thats my guess ...

choasgod

That wouldn't really work at all as you customise your car all the time between races. You'd have to constantly switch discs.

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#171 epic_pets
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Sounds fantastic
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#172 Supafly1
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Two discs for a racing game? WTF? How does that work?f50p90

Maybe they are putting half of the tracks on one disc and the other half on the other disc? Maybe the same goes for cars.

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#173 whocares4peace
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[QUOTE="TOAO_Cyrus1"][QUOTE="leejohnson7"]

[QUOTE="jbz7890"]Forza 2 is the best racing sim ever, and i have no doubt that Forza 3 will be even better.thrones

That is plain wrong. GT is a better simulator, but both of them are outdone by pc games in the sims department.

Um the original Forza was much better then GT4 and GT5 isnt even out yet.

Nope. Short of damage, Gran Turismo 4 did almost everything better than Forza Motorsports 1. It was marked down critically for being essentially Gran Turismo 3: A-spec with a new paintjob and extra cars/tracks. But A-spec was far to awesome anyway.

Forza had:

Better graphics
An awesome online career mode
Damage modelling
Better AI
Drivatar

And those are not opinions, they're facts.

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#174 Unforgiven2870
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[QUOTE="thrones"][QUOTE="TOAO_Cyrus1"][QUOTE="leejohnson7"]

[QUOTE="jbz7890"]Forza 2 is the best racing sim ever, and i have no doubt that Forza 3 will be even better.whocares4peace

That is plain wrong. GT is a better simulator, but both of them are outdone by pc games in the sims department.

Um the original Forza was much better then GT4 and GT5 isnt even out yet.

Nope. Short of damage, Gran Turismo 4 did almost everything better than Forza Motorsports 1. It was marked down critically for being essentially Gran Turismo 3: A-spec with a new paintjob and extra cars/tracks. But A-spec was far to awesome anyway.

Forza had:

Better graphics
An awesome online career mode
Damage modelling
Better AI
Drivatar

And those are not opinions, they're facts.

Those 2 are Opinions.
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#175 thrones
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[QUOTE="thrones"][QUOTE="TOAO_Cyrus1"][QUOTE="leejohnson7"]

[QUOTE="jbz7890"]Forza 2 is the best racing sim ever, and i have no doubt that Forza 3 will be even better.whocares4peace

That is plain wrong. GT is a better simulator, but both of them are outdone by pc games in the sims department.

Um the original Forza was much better then GT4 and GT5 isnt even out yet.

Nope. Short of damage, Gran Turismo 4 did almost everything better than Forza Motorsports 1. It was marked down critically for being essentially Gran Turismo 3: A-spec with a new paintjob and extra cars/tracks. But A-spec was far to awesome anyway.

Forza had:

Better graphics
An awesome online career mode
Damage modelling
Better AI
Drivatar

And those are not opinions, they're facts.

but the most important parts, imo, the handling and cars and tracks were better on Gran Turismo 4.

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#176 manny280
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[QUOTE="whocares4peace"][QUOTE="thrones"][QUOTE="TOAO_Cyrus1"][QUOTE="leejohnson7"]

[QUOTE="jbz7890"]Forza 2 is the best racing sim ever, and i have no doubt that Forza 3 will be even better.thrones

That is plain wrong. GT is a better simulator, but both of them are outdone by pc games in the sims department.

Um the original Forza was much better then GT4 and GT5 isnt even out yet.

Nope. Short of damage, Gran Turismo 4 did almost everything better than Forza Motorsports 1. It was marked down critically for being essentially Gran Turismo 3: A-spec with a new paintjob and extra cars/tracks. But A-spec was far to awesome anyway.

Forza had:

Better graphics
An awesome online career mode
Damage modelling
Better AI
Drivatar

And those are not opinions, they're facts.

but the most important parts, imo, the handling and cars and tracks were better on Gran Turismo 4.

well i agree about the tracks but the cars and handling on the otherhand.......

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#177 whocares4peace
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Those 2 are Opinions.Unforgiven2870

Xbox game vs PS2 game. Its really not a contest.

As for AI, the GT series is known for moronic AI drivers, running on fixed paths, never making a sinlge mistake, shunting into your back if you get in their way. Heres a quote from the GS review

"Racing opponent AI is as dumb as ever"

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#178 masiisam
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[QUOTE="whocares4peace"][QUOTE="thrones"][QUOTE="TOAO_Cyrus1"][QUOTE="leejohnson7"]

[QUOTE="jbz7890"]Forza 2 is the best racing sim ever, and i have no doubt that Forza 3 will be even better.Unforgiven2870

That is plain wrong. GT is a better simulator, but both of them are outdone by pc games in the sims department.

Um the original Forza was much better then GT4 and GT5 isnt even out yet.

Nope. Short of damage, Gran Turismo 4 did almost everything better than Forza Motorsports 1. It was marked down critically for being essentially Gran Turismo 3: A-spec with a new paintjob and extra cars/tracks. But A-spec was far to awesome anyway.

Forza had:

Better graphics
An awesome online career mode
Damage modelling
Better AI
Drivatar

And those are not opinions, they're facts.

Those 2 are Opinions.

As with any review it too is just an opinion..But check the review for both games..AI for FM was praised..and AI for GT4 was thrown under the bus..

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#179 Unforgiven2870
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[QUOTE="Unforgiven2870"]

Those 2 are Opinions.whocares4peace

Xbox game vs PS2 game. Its really not a contest.

As for AI, the GT series is known for moronic AI drivers, running on fixed paths, never making a sinlge mistake, shunting into your back if you get in their way. Heres a quote from the GS review

"Racing opponent AI is as dumb as ever"

Its not really a contest in terms of? Not really a contest but lets see here.

GT4 8.9
GT3 9.5
Forza 2 9.2
Forza 9.2

take it for what you will,but between these 2 series there's pretty good contest.Of course Forza has a bit more with the whole online thing but IMHO both are good none the less.
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#180 HuusAsking
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[QUOTE="choasgod"]

Disc 1 has 400 cars and 100 tracks - complety SP.

Disc 2 has car customization and is online only.

Thats my guess ...

Ninja-Hippo

That wouldn't really work at all as you customise your car all the time between races. You'd have to constantly switch discs.

Customizations go into your save file, which persists between discs. And both discs could feature a customization area.
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#181 thrones
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[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="choasgod"]

Disc 1 has 400 cars and 100 tracks - complety SP.

Disc 2 has car customization and is online only.

Thats my guess ...

HuusAsking

That wouldn't really work at all as you customise your car all the time between races. You'd have to constantly switch discs.

Customizations go into your save file, which persists between discs.

But... that means the Disc 1 will have to be able to recall the car customization which makes a second disc pointless. Also, there will have to be a massive save file otherwise.

And online will need access to those 400 cars and 100 tracks as well you know...

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#182 blackice1983
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[QUOTE="whocares4peace"][QUOTE="thrones"][QUOTE="TOAO_Cyrus1"][QUOTE="leejohnson7"]

[QUOTE="jbz7890"]Forza 2 is the best racing sim ever, and i have no doubt that Forza 3 will be even better.Unforgiven2870

That is plain wrong. GT is a better simulator, but both of them are outdone by pc games in the sims department.

Um the original Forza was much better then GT4 and GT5 isnt even out yet.

Nope. Short of damage, Gran Turismo 4 did almost everything better than Forza Motorsports 1. It was marked down critically for being essentially Gran Turismo 3: A-spec with a new paintjob and extra cars/tracks. But A-spec was far to awesome anyway.

Forza had:

Better graphics
An awesome online career mode
Damage modelling
Better AI
Drivatar

And those are not opinions, they're facts.

Those 2 are Opinions.

those arent opinions. you would know if you read the reviews

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#183 Unforgiven2870
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[QUOTE="Unforgiven2870"][QUOTE="whocares4peace"][QUOTE="thrones"][QUOTE="TOAO_Cyrus1"][QUOTE="leejohnson7"]

[QUOTE="jbz7890"]Forza 2 is the best racing sim ever, and i have no doubt that Forza 3 will be even better.blackice1983

That is plain wrong. GT is a better simulator, but both of them are outdone by pc games in the sims department.

Um the original Forza was much better then GT4 and GT5 isnt even out yet.

Nope. Short of damage, Gran Turismo 4 did almost everything better than Forza Motorsports 1. It was marked down critically for being essentially Gran Turismo 3: A-spec with a new paintjob and extra cars/tracks. But A-spec was far to awesome anyway.

Forza had:

Better graphics
An awesome online career mode
Damage modelling
Better AI
Drivatar

And those are not opinions, they're facts.

Those 2 are Opinions.

those arent opinions. you would know if you read the reviews

aren't reviews opinions? Anyone can write a review dosen't mean others will have the same opinions.
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#184 blackice1983
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[QUOTE="HuusAsking"][QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="choasgod"]

Disc 1 has 400 cars and 100 tracks - complety SP.

Disc 2 has car customization and is online only.

Thats my guess ...

thrones

That wouldn't really work at all as you customise your car all the time between races. You'd have to constantly switch discs.

Customizations go into your save file, which persists between discs.

But... that means the Disc 1 will have to be able to recall the car customization which makes a second disc pointless. Also, there will have to be a massive save file otherwise.

And online will need access to those 400 cars and 100 tracks as well you know...

lol look at these kids argue about something that hasnt been shown and explained

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#185 blackice1983
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[QUOTE="blackice1983"][QUOTE="Unforgiven2870"][QUOTE="whocares4peace"][QUOTE="thrones"][QUOTE="TOAO_Cyrus1"][QUOTE="leejohnson7"]

[QUOTE="jbz7890"]Forza 2 is the best racing sim ever, and i have no doubt that Forza 3 will be even better.Unforgiven2870

That is plain wrong. GT is a better simulator, but both of them are outdone by pc games in the sims department.

Um the original Forza was much better then GT4 and GT5 isnt even out yet.

Nope. Short of damage, Gran Turismo 4 did almost everything better than Forza Motorsports 1. It was marked down critically for being essentially Gran Turismo 3: A-spec with a new paintjob and extra cars/tracks. But A-spec was far to awesome anyway.

Forza had:

Better graphics
An awesome online career mode
Damage modelling
Better AI
Drivatar

And those are not opinions, they're facts.

Those 2 are Opinions.

those arent opinions. you would know if you read the reviews

aren't reviews opinions? Anyone can write a review dosen't mean others will have the same opinions.

forza was known for having great a.i. and graphics and scored better if not the same in those departments.

this like you telling me crysis graphics arent the best because u think otherwise

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#186 Unforgiven2870
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[QUOTE="Unforgiven2870"][QUOTE="blackice1983"][QUOTE="Unforgiven2870"][QUOTE="whocares4peace"][QUOTE="thrones"][QUOTE="TOAO_Cyrus1"][QUOTE="leejohnson7"]

[QUOTE="jbz7890"]Forza 2 is the best racing sim ever, and i have no doubt that Forza 3 will be even better.blackice1983

That is plain wrong. GT is a better simulator, but both of them are outdone by pc games in the sims department.

Um the original Forza was much better then GT4 and GT5 isnt even out yet.

Nope. Short of damage, Gran Turismo 4 did almost everything better than Forza Motorsports 1. It was marked down critically for being essentially Gran Turismo 3: A-spec with a new paintjob and extra cars/tracks. But A-spec was far to awesome anyway.

Forza had:

Better graphics
An awesome online career mode
Damage modelling
Better AI
Drivatar

And those are not opinions, they're facts.

Those 2 are Opinions.

those arent opinions. you would know if you read the reviews

aren't reviews opinions? Anyone can write a review dosen't mean others will have the same opinions.

forza was known for having great a.i. and graphics and scored better if not the same in those departments.

Lets see if i can make it clear to you my lost friend.

Person 1. Forza has the best AI and graphics and it scored better.
Person 2.That maybe your opinion I think GT looks better.

Person 1.Im saying that based off the reviews i've read though.
Person 2.Yes that maybe,but this is based off someone else review but what is your opinion about the game comming from you and your mouth and not someone else's?

see?




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#187 Gaara79
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[QUOTE="ofx360"]:lol: Watch the fanboys (Lem & cows alike) go ape**** over a RUMOUR. Not saying it isn't possible to be true but come on...Damrightfresh

bu..but...teh blu ray isnt needed this gen..it must really hit lemmings hard in the face..

Needing to install new Data for minutes in MGS4 before every act. And the long loading times between every new area and cut-scene made me wish the game came on multiple disks. It would take me less time to switch disks than it does waiting for the game to install after a couple of hours play.

If anything MGS4 proves that blu ray doesn't help at all.

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#188 crunchUK
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hm ya know it really isn't easy at all to put a game on 2 disks. when you think about it it's very hard... at least with a game like forza. i guess they will divide the tracks into 2 "volumes" with the cars on each one. because i mean forza 2 had 300 cars and 50 or so tracks and that fits on 1 DVD so i SUPPOSE you won't need the whole 2nd DVD. then when you join an online race it will say "insert disk 2" and without quitting the game you will change disks and carry on as normal.

just a hypothesis mind you. i will get back to everyone with my forza>GT opinion.

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#189 thrones
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hm ya know it really isn't easy at all to put a game on 2 disks. when you think about it it's very hard... at least with a game like forza. i guess they will divide the tracks into 2 "volumes" with the cars on each one. because i mean forza 2 had 300 cars and 50 or so tracks and that fits on 1 DVD so i SUPPOSE you won't need the whole 2nd DVD. then when you join an online race it will say "insert disk 2" and without quitting the game you will change disks and carry on as normal.

just a hypothesis mind you. i will get back to everyone with my forza>GT opinion.

crunchUK

I'm sure it will just be 400 cars on both, everything the same on both except one has 50 tracks the other has the other 50.

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#190 KodiakGTS
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hm ya know it really isn't easy at all to put a game on 2 disks. when you think about it it's very hard... at least with a game like forza. i guess they will divide the tracks into 2 "volumes" with the cars on each one. because i mean forza 2 had 300 cars and 50 or so tracks and that fits on 1 DVD so i SUPPOSE you won't need the whole 2nd DVD. then when you join an online race it will say "insert disk 2" and without quitting the game you will change disks and carry on as normal.

just a hypothesis mind you. i will get back to everyone with my forza>GT opinion.

crunchUK


I'm guessing they will avoid having to switch disks in the online mode as much as possible. Not sure a good way for them to get the best result if this multidisk thing turns out to be true.
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#191 Pro_wrestler
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New system, old technology...dont make since at all. Who once to technology to stay in 1997, thats right, the 360 fans do!

CubanBlunt



Oh God.

So having your game printed on 2 DVDs makes it old and obsolete technology? Considering having to switch discs doesn't take away from the experience. According to FF7, which scored a 9.5, it has no bearing on the experience what so ever if done right. -- Considering Blu-ray poses no advantages over DVD9 when it comes to games(Because we both know thats what your trying to insinuate); If so then explain to me why PS3/360 multiplats have usually been better on 360 more times than not; Why has it taken PS3 twenty months to get a game thats as or more critcal than all of 360 and Wii games, which uses the 'inferior' DVD9.

I find that funny since Wii launched AFTER PS3, ships with a DVD drive thats even less 'advance' than the one in the 360, yet it has spanked both 360 and PS3! in sales and PS3 in AAA Exclusive games.



. Again, not all games have to be installed you get the same perfomance as a DVD.......you get one more chance.

CubanBlunt

It doesn't matter, the fact that people claimed that Blu-ray was suprior to DVD9 in the same situations is totally contradicting for there to be installs to try and keep the playing field even or exceed it. If you can't see that then you probably can't see that python thats about to bite you in the buttox.

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#192 omus101
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Forza 3 has alot of cars but GT5 will have double the amount of cars with over 900+ plus cars. :) Jeremiah123456
most will just be slight variations of the other
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#193 HuusAsking
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[QUOTE="Jeremiah123456"]Forza 3 has alot of cars but GT5 will have double the amount of cars with over 900+ plus cars. :) omus101
most will just be slight variations of the other

How many unique car models do the FM and GT series possess?
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#194 nitekids2004
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Normal, Reverse, Rainy, Dusty, Snowy Tracks soooo thats 100/5 = 20 unique tracks :lol:

But seriously, i hope thats not the case.

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#195 Eltroz
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Bumper cars are for little kids!

GTbumpercar.jpg picture by rybe1025

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#196 Pro_wrestler
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[QUOTE="omus101"][QUOTE="Jeremiah123456"]Forza 3 has alot of cars but GT5 will have double the amount of cars with over 900+ plus cars. :) HuusAsking
most will just be slight variations of the other

How many unique car models do the FM and GT series possess?

Excluding the variants, GT still has more cars but I'd rather have 300 cars that I can make my own than 600 cars that remain stock. Just look at what the Forza community has done with the livery editor.

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#197 masiisam
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[QUOTE="HuusAsking"][QUOTE="omus101"][QUOTE="Jeremiah123456"]Forza 3 has alot of cars but GT5 will have double the amount of cars with over 900+ plus cars. :) Pro_wrestler

most will just be slight variations of the other

How many unique car models do the FM and GT series possess?

Excluding the variants, GT still has more cars but I'd rather have 300 cars that I can make my own than 600 cars that remain stock. Just look at what the Forza community has done with the livery editor.

God912 is insane...I cant even begin to imagine how long it takes these guys to make skins like that....The skin community is so crazy..I will go to the auction house just to check them all out..

Giving it more thought..If everyone is getting technical on how many cars are available in each game including variants...I would like to add that given the accessibly of upgrades to the cars though the PI index...you can have well over a 1000 cars...IE: a Honda civic that you can upgrade all the way to "u"

In addition the tuning community is equally as insane as the skin community..Those guys are hardcore and strive for that last 1/10 of a sec..

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#198 ProductNumber49
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2 discs! LOL! :lol:

If it's exclusively for PS3, it will require a single disc.

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