Rumour: The Xbox One is getting an upgrade GPU and RAM?

I dont see changes happening, they already announced 8gb RAM.

In a weird twisted way, the X1 is very balanced. That weak GPU doesnt need more than 5gb free RAM to reach its maximum peak.

I guess its a good thing they never set a release date.  If that true then it def wont be coming out until at least spring of 2014

[QUOTE="tormentos"]

[QUOTE="ronvalencia"] I already have 16 GB DDR3-2133 on my PC since early this year. To support 8 GB GDDR5 on 256 bit bus, one must look at the road maps from GDDR5 manufactures. Your "lemming land fanboy" statement is a joke.ronvalencia

Your PC is not the xbox one,your PC also has a 7970 does the xbox one has a 7970.?

See this is what make you look like a complete pathetic fanboy,if sony wanted 12GB they would put it,the road map mean sh**,it just mean fewer units at launch do to having a bigger demand for chips.

The fact that you just bring your PC as example prove how much of a blind fanboy you are,my PC could have 16GB of ram with 3 GPU in SLI,doesn't mean the PS4 can you know.

Ron dont entertain the fanboi, the whole forum respects your opinion and the whole forum thinks he is a mindless fanboy.

[QUOTE="LordOfPoms"][QUOTE="kuu2"]

On what planet are phones a one entry payment?

kuu2

Smart people do.  Buying your phone means you can go to any carrier at anytime instead of being locked in to some draconian contract.  The two are very comparable now that these consoles are having you buy into networks to access all of their functionalities.

The rumor isnt true it is nowhere to be found other than here

XBOunity

It was born on Beyodn3D a few days ago,by the same people who have scream secret sauce for the xbox one,since they learn from the weaker than PS4 spec.

[QUOTE="ronvalencia"][QUOTE="LordOfPoms"] I'm not talking about RAM in general, I'm talking about the viability of upgrading your system this late into the production game. The consoles are entering mass production now for a November release. If MS were really trying to upgrade their system, they might jeopardize that launch window and have to push it back by a month and miss Black Friday.LordOfPoms

Well, it's up to MS...

I'm waiting for Radeon HD 9970 (with Battlefield 4) coming this October 2013. http://wccftech.com/amds-generation-volcanic-islands-gpus-possibly-launching-october-branded-hd-8000-series/

AMD plans to move 7000s to the value market.

 

ROn isnt a fanboy like you, you should respect his opinion and or shut up when he gives his viewpoint of specs, he doesnt have an agenda like you

XBOunity

And you know this for fact because you have 10 years on this forum right.?

Oh yeah you just joined not even 2 weeks ago,i have 10 years here try harder.

And ron once obsses with something can be more fanboy than all forum members on this site,ask Hermit who have argue with him,when he go into a quest of proving that AMD is the be all end all of GPU.

[QUOTE="Tighaman"]It can easily be done unless you all on this site are a bunch of kids, never had to work in a manufacturing plant I can tell you that there are many stages and changes going on in every plant, up to 2 months to a month of shipping. I'm not saying that they will change any specs but when I saw the xbox one it looks too big as if MS already had it in plans.tormentos

Bullsh**..

The xbox 360 ram increase happen on 2004,not 5 months before launching,and when the final board is already finish,there is no hardware change and the xbox one been adertise as a 8GB console pretty much confirm it,not even the clock speed of the GPU would be touch unless is a downclock,not when yield issues are say to still be a problem.

[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]

400<500

 

MrYaotubo

[QUOTE="XBOunity"]

 

ROn isnt a fanboy like you, you should respect his opinion and or shut up when he gives his viewpoint of specs, he doesnt have an agenda like you

tormentos

And you know this for fact because you have 10 years on this forum right.?

Oh yeah you just joined not even 2 weeks ago,i have 10 years here try harder.

And ron once obsses with something can be more fanboy than all forum members on this site,ask Hermit who have argue with him,when he go into a quest of proving that AMD is the be all end all of GPU.

 

Again, you are missing the AMD PRT's main purpose and existence.

For "You can put 20GB of ram on a 7770 it will never beat a 7870 never." statement, AMD Cinema 2.0 demos would gimp 8 GB PC e.g. it needs 16 GB. There's a reason why workstations has 16 GB to 64 GB of memory.

X1 is not 7770.

 

ronvalencia

Your arguments are so easy to kill,the xbox one is not workstation,and graphics on workstation are not running on real time while been controlable like games are,a workstation can render avatar graphics,but can it let you play in real time with them.? Not even 3 Titans get close to Avatar graphics see because renders and real time are 2 different things.

Ad performance wise the xbox one is a 7770.

:lol: what a fvcking disaster of a console. 4 months from launch and they still don't know what to do.

NathanDrakeSwag

[QUOTE="tormentos"]

[QUOTE="XBOunity"]

The rumor isnt true it is nowhere to be found other than here

sts106mat

It was born on Beyodn3D a few days ago,by the same people who have scream secret sauce for the xbox one,since they learn from the weaker than PS4 spec.

But but the PS4 can be $1000 dollars........................:lol:

You pass signature own you so hard it wasn't even funny..:lol:

By the way  that you clone01.? :lo:

[QUOTE="ronvalencia"]

Again, you are missing the AMD PRT's main purpose and existence.

For "You can put 20GB of ram on a 7770 it will never beat a 7870 never." statement, AMD Cinema 2.0 demos would gimp 8 GB PC e.g. it needs 16 GB. There's a reason why workstations has 16 GB to 64 GB of memory.

X1 is not 7770.

tormentos

Your arguments are so easy to kill,the xbox one is not workstation,and graphics on workstation are not running on real time while been controlable like games are,a workstation can render avatar graphics,but can it let you play in real time with them.? Not even 3 Titans get close to Avatar graphics see because renders and real time are 2 different things.

Ad performance wise the xbox one is a 7770.

What rubbish statements. The workstation OTOY application was running in real time with massive voxel lighting data.

X1 is not 7770. i have already told you why 7770 wouldn't work.

 

 

This is Cowspot remember.  The same forum that said Sony would dominate last gen and that Sony would catch MSoft within a year of launch.  The same forum that said rumble was not needed.  The same forum that talked about specs for almost an entire generaion till they finally had games to play.

kuu2

When was the last time the PS console was outselling the xbox one on US or UK.?

Because as of now the PS4 is outselling it,badly.

gaming news mustve been slow as hell lately for so many irrelevant threads to pop up

"Id like to announce today that microsoft is officially the most power console on the market today. We have decided that gamers and consumers needed even more power to get the most immersive and lifelike experince availible. So I am proud to announce our upgraded GPU and RAM for the xbox one! This holiday season you can own the most powerful hardware in the galaxy, for only 899.99 dollars!

Ya, I don't see this happening...

Ya, I don't see this happening...

Chutebox

You only ( ° °) once

[QUOTE="ronvalencia"] I already have 16 GB DDR3-2133 on my PC since early this year. To support 8 GB GDDR5 on 256 bit bus, one must look at the road maps from GDDR5 manufactures. Your "lemming land fanboy" statement is a joke.tormentos

Your PC is not the xbox one,your PC also has a 7970 does the xbox one has a 7970.?

See this is what make you look like a complete pathetic fanboy,if sony wanted 12GB they would put it,the road map mean sh**,it just mean fewer units at launch do to having a bigger demand for chips.

The fact that you just bring your PC as example prove how much of a blind fanboy you are,my PC could have 16GB of ram with 3 GPU in SLI,doesn't mean the PS4 can you know.

If 8 GB was over kill for a Laptop part... 12GB is stupid... It would never use it. Will do nothing in the end except cost more.

Up-clock isn't going to happen unless they spend even more on the cooler and be willing to dump the majority of the chips because they are bad at OC'ing.

The power brick would also need to be higher watt.

Don't see this happening at all.

If they did that so late in the game they would lose money and have to move the release date. I don't know if they're willing to take that route.

"Local graphics memory" points towards two speed memory setup as in the PC or X1 i.e. using smaller faster memory as a hardware manage cache for larger/slower memory pool. PS4 only has one speed memory setup which reduces the value for AMD PRT.ronvalencia

The second aspect of PRT is managing the tiles. In essence PRT reduces local video memory to a very large cache, where tiles are mapped/pinned as necessary and then evicted as per the cache rules, and elsewhere the hardware handles page/tile translation should a tile not already be in the cache. Large tomes have been written on caching methods, and this aspect is of particular interest to AMD because what they learn about caching here they can apply to graphical workloads (i.e. professional) and not just gaming.Anandtech

Even if this did happen, the PS4 would still have a significant edge. The GPU in the PS4 has twice the fillrate performance and 50% more raw shading performance.

"we have now heard rumors from a member on the website Beyond3D"

... Really?

Aren't both the consoles already in production? I highly doubt this rumor.

[QUOTE="evildead6789"][QUOTE="I_can_haz"] If that was supposed to be a jab at me you're failing hard.Sagem28

It's pretty normal that people with girls in their sig are females.
Look at me, for example.

Now, don't hit on me you silly boys. :oops:

its happening oh yeah!!! 

this thread is a sad lem wishful thinking.

Why does it need an upgrade if cloud makes up for the lack of power?

Why does it need an upgrade if cloud makes up for the lack of power?

Douevenlift_bro

For the sunny days...

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Why does it need an upgrade if cloud makes up for the lack of power?

ManatuBeard

For the sunny days...

...They need a new and powerful gpu if anything.

Ain't gonna happen. I had hoped for an upgrade before the E3 reveal but there wasn't one. Ain't gonna get one now. And 12 gigs of RAM doesn't even make sense. That would be overkill in a big way.

...They need a new and powerful gpu if anything.

mitu123

This.

It's what needs redsigned more than anything else. That and the memory architecture, not the amount of it. But doing so would mean delaying it and they ain't gonna do that.

I just heard a rumor that the X1 will now have 64Gb GDDR6, 3xNvidia Titan SLI and a Intel Core i7-3970X. I heard it from the dog of the brother of the cousin of a neighbour.

Should i make a stupid thread about this like this one?

awww, i didn't believe it would be $1000, just pointing out the fact you didn't have a clue how much it would cost. you got lucky with a guess. I changed my sig, because my last one was outdated and your Last of Us meltdown was too funny to pass on. Yeah i nicked clone01's joke, i will use just like he does, and post it when your post makes no sense......so expect to see it quite regularly. sts106mat

Eat crow please the PS4 like i say did not pass $400 dollars..:lol:

[ He is right about the GDDR5 though. To get 8GB Sony are using the highest density modules available. To increase the amount again would require more physical chips which means new traces on the main board and it would also require a 384 bit memory bus like on the 79xx series GPU. That is a lot of work for not a huge amount of gain. I am not sure I believe the 12GB rumour though because its similar on the X1. It has a 256bit memory bus so that is a total of 4 channels. 8GB means 2GB per channels which is fine but 12GB would require 2x2GB and 2x4GB which does not seem likely. I doubt there will be an up clock unless the yield is better than anticipated at it does not bring the number of working parts down below their desired minimum but I would have thought MS would prefer to have more units available to sell rather than a slight increase in performance.btk2k2

What make you think MS is not using the highest desncity DDR3 modules.?

They can't add more without getting higher density ones,which is what people on Beyond3D were desperately trying to find to even claim that it was possible,and you don't have to change the memory bus to use more than 8GB of GDDR5,the 79XX in most cases use half the ram the PS4 has yet they have bigger bus.

The xbox ne is 8Gb this is a rumor that started by the secret sauce clan on Beyond3D nothing more nothing less.

[QUOTE="btk2k2"][ He is right about the GDDR5 though. To get 8GB Sony are using the highest density modules available. To increase the amount again would require more physical chips which means new traces on the main board and it would also require a 384 bit memory bus like on the 79xx series GPU. That is a lot of work for not a huge amount of gain. I am not sure I believe the 12GB rumour though because its similar on the X1. It has a 256bit memory bus so that is a total of 4 channels. 8GB means 2GB per channels which is fine but 12GB would require 2x2GB and 2x4GB which does not seem likely. I doubt there will be an up clock unless the yield is better than anticipated at it does not bring the number of working parts down below their desired minimum but I would have thought MS would prefer to have more units available to sell rather than a slight increase in performance.tormentos

What make you think MS is not using the highest desncity DDR3 modules.?

They can't add more without getting higher density ones,which is what people on Beyond3D were desperately trying to find to even claim that it was possible,and you don't have to change the memory bus to use more than 8GB of GDDR5,the 79XX in most cases use half the ram the PS4 has yet they have bigger bus.

The xbox ne is 8Gb this is a rumor that started by the secret sauce clan on Beyond3D nothing more nothing less.

The photo of the board clearly shows 16 x 512mb modules.

Its nice that Sony nailed their specs first time,they obviously thought long and hard about PS4.

M$ not so much.LOL