Safe to say that the 360 is going to get DESTROYED in 2011.

[QUOTE="FIipMode"]

[QUOTE="todd2r"]

YES I DO. Ive said this numerous times, if the ps3 was number one in america, and the 360 was supposedly outselling the ps3 worldwide, all we would hear would be cows claiming the ps3 is number 1 in america and thats all that matters. but since its the exact opposite, we have to hear about sales figures for countries i dont care about or live in. why would anyone care what the ps3 sold in south africa last week? and the general american public can care less too

TheXFiles88

Since NA is the largest gaming market in the world so it is not important to Sony? And this sales chart speaks for itself. I wonder who has gotten "DESTROYED" here.

Just focusing on NA again? Is this some sort of disease people have or something? And I would love for you to find where I said NA isn't important, because I'm pretty sure I said it's silly to use only NPD sales to determine how the general public feels about the PS3.

[QUOTE="TheXFiles88"]

[QUOTE="FIipMode"] Why should we just look at American sales and use that to make conclusions about how the general public feels about the PS3, why should we focus only on America, because you want to? I don't really care about what lems are doing or what cows would be doing right now, it makes no sense to only use American sales to judge how people care about the PS3. You can easily use fiscal numbers released by the company. But oh wait, in the last quarter PS3 outsold the Xbox, so that would really kill your theory wouldn't it?

FIipMode

Since NA is the largest gaming market in the world so it is not important to Sony? And this sales chart speaks for itself. I wonder who has gotten "DESTROYED" here.

Just focusing on NA again? Is this some sort of disease people have or something? And I would love for you to find where I said NA isn't important, because I'm pretty sure I said it's silly to use only NPD sales to determine how the general public feels about the PS3.

Since NA has the tracking system that is one of the reasons we only can "DISCUSS" about these numbers. How could you talk about Europe sales numbers when there isn't a single tracking sales system over there. However, you can talk about the sales in U.K. because they have a similar tracking system too. So, if you want to talk about the rest of the world's numbers, prove to me that you have a tacking system like the N.A or the U.K. Please don't use some numbers from Vgchartz's site because they are just guessing as you are.

Since NA has the tracking system that is one of the reasons we only can "DISCUSS" about these numbers. How could you talk about Europe sales numbers when there isn't a single tracking sales system over there. However, you can talk about the sales in U.K. because they have a similar tracking system too. So, if you want to talk about the rest of the world's numbers, prove to me that you have a tacking system like the N.A or the U.K. Please don't use some numbers from Vgchartz's site because they are just guessing as you are.

TheXFiles88

Since NA has the tracking system that is one of the reasons we only can "DISCUSS" about these numbers. How could you talk about Europe sales numbers when there isn't a single tracking sales system over there. However, you can talk about the sales in U.K. because they have a similar tracking system too. So, if you want to talk about the rest of the world's numbers, prove to me that you have a tacking system like the N.A or the U.K. Please don't use some numbers from Vgchartz's site because they are just guessing as you are.

TheXFiles88

Source

Exclusives that I am excited for is U3, inFamous 2, GeoW 3, Forza 4. Multiplats, ME3, TES V, Batman AC. PS3 has only 2 games I'm excited for. So does 360.

As its looking right now, SONY is gonna kill them on teh Exclusvie front next year. But as we all know, MS usualy announces all their stuff for the year at the beginning of said year. Of course you also have peopel that dillude themselves in thinking that the Kinect games coming out make up for the lack of Exclusvies.

Don't know about that. Kinect is really tapping into the casual market.

I'm hearing a lot of people who usually dont care about video games talking about it.

But the PS3 certainly has a lot going for it game wise now:)

As its looking right now, SONY is gonna kill them on teh Exclusvie front next year. But as we all know, MS usualy announces all their stuff for the year at the beginning of said year. Of course you also have peopel that dillude themselves in thinking that the Kinect games coming out make up for the lack of Exclusvies.

XboximusPrime

People said the same thing about 360 this year :|Funconsole

Nice try, but no way, Codename Kingdoms,Gears 3, Forza 4 and Project Draco are the most important 2011 games and are only on 360

360 - Codename Kingdoms, Gears 3, Forza 4, Mass Effect 3 (real version), Project Draco,Haunt, Rise of Nightmares, Steel Batalion, Codename D, Feelplus RPG, Dust Elysin Tale, Owlboy, Grey Matter, Divinity 2 Dragon Saga, Battleblock Theater, Star Wars, Fable 4, Halo 4, Alan Wake2 etc etc

Add the best versions of multipltforms on 360- Elder Scrolls 5, Witcher 2, Project Dark, Catherine, Trine 2, Bioshock Infinite etc etc

As for PS3

PS3 - Killzone 3, Uncharted 3, Resistance 3, Little Big Planet 2, Infamous 2, Twisted Metal, The Last Guardian, Ni no Kuni

I only want Ni no Kuni and Last Guadian out of the PS3 lineup, i will just rent the rest, and i am buying 40 xbox360 games, so 360 beats PS3 40:2 in 2011

SacredMG

[QUOTE="Keiji993"][QUOTE="chase_arizona"]

The Xbox360 will have the best shooter and best racer of 2011, so I don't agree.

chase_arizona

Gears of War 3 is better than all of those.

[QUOTE="_SWAG_"]

imho 360 always gets destroyed by the ps3 because of the ps3 exclusives. noone cares about multiplats only exclusives matters for the ps3 thats why the ps3 will win 2011 and beyond imho

todd2r

ummmmm....what? no one cares about multiplats? the number one ps3 game on amazon is Black Ops, a multiplat. exclusives dont sell. who bought Heavy Rain and MAG??? mainstream can care less about those crappy games and thats why the ps3 is in 3rd in america. yeah there are some exceptions (Gears, Halo, Gran Turismo) but for the most part, they dont sell

[QUOTE="Funconsole"]People said the same thing about 360 this year :|FIipMode

[QUOTE="chase_arizona"]

[QUOTE="Keiji993"] Is the next shooter (which MS havn't even announced yet) is going to be better than Killzone 3, Resistance 3, and SOCOM?johny300

Gears of War 3 is better than all of those.

The first two games were highly critically acclaimed shooters, and Gears of War 3 will exceed them in every way, and will have superior online as well. The Gears of War series has blown Killzone and Resistance out of the water, and Socom won't be anything special. And you have a game in your sig calling it "GOTY" when nothing is even known about it.

The European charts are from Gfk-ChartTrack for the UK, France, Germany and Spain via Nintendo, the Japanese numbers are from Media Create. Both are sell through trackers.

There are no worldwide sell-through numbers so you're either misinformed, full of **** or a mixture of the two. :|

shinrabanshou

Really? Here are the World Wide sales numbers from the independent data. As of 5/2010 even before the "S" models were released, the Xbox360 had 4.35mil more than PS3. You could imagine what the WW lead of the Xbox360 would be now. I wonder who is misinformed or full of ******* or a mixture of the two:roll:

"Along with the NPD sales for today the numbers for worldwide console sales have been released and they're as recent as a little less than two months ago. You will find that based on the numbers Wii is still pretty far up there but 360 and PS3 is catching up and PS3 is catching up to the 360 too. After the break you will be able to see all the console sales for evey year up to now which is pretty interesting too."

• Wii – 70.93 Million Units
• Xbox 360 – 40.3 Million Units
• PlayStation 3 – 35.95 Million Units

http://dlb-network.com/2010/05/worldwide-console-sales-numbers-unveiled/

http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/63785

[QUOTE="shinrabanshou"]

The European charts are from Gfk-ChartTrack for the UK, France, Germany and Spain via Nintendo, the Japanese numbers are from Media Create. Both are sell through trackers.

There are no worldwide sell-through numbers so you're either misinformed, full of **** or a mixture of the two. :|

TheXFiles88

Really? Here are the World Wide sales numbers from the independent data. As of 5/2010 even before the "S" models were released, the Xbox360 had 4.35mil more than PS3. You could imagine what the WW lead of the Xbox360 would be now. I wonder who is misinformed or full of ******* or a mixture of the two:roll:

long with the NPD sales for today the numbers for worldwide console sales have been released and they're as recent as a little less than two months ago. You will find that based on the numbers Wii is still pretty far up there but 360 and PS3 is catching up and PS3 is catching up to the 360 too. After the break you will be able to see all the console sales for evey year up to now which is pretty interesting too.

• Wii – 70.93 Million Units
• Xbox 360 – 40.3 Million Units
• PlayStation 3 – 35.95 Million Units

http://dlb-network.com/2010/05/worldwide-console-sales-numbers-unveiled/

http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/63785

[QUOTE="TheXFiles88"]

[QUOTE="shinrabanshou"]

The European charts are from Gfk-ChartTrack for the UK, France, Germany and Spain via Nintendo, the Japanese numbers are from Media Create. Both are sell through trackers.

There are no worldwide sell-through numbers so you're either misinformed, full of **** or a mixture of the two. :|

FIipMode

Really? Here are the World Wide sales numbers from the independent data. As of 5/2010 even before the "S" models were released, the Xbox360 had 4.35mil more than PS3. You could imagine what the WW lead of the Xbox360 would be now. I wonder who is misinformed or full of ******* or a mixture of the two:roll:

long with the NPD sales for today the numbers for worldwide console sales have been released and they're as recent as a little less than two months ago. You will find that based on the numbers Wii is still pretty far up there but 360 and PS3 is catching up and PS3 is catching up to the 360 too. After the break you will be able to see all the console sales for evey year up to now which is pretty interesting too.

• Wii – 70.93 Million Units
• Xbox 360 – 40.3 Million Units
• PlayStation 3 – 35.95 Million Units

http://dlb-network.com/2010/05/worldwide-console-sales-numbers-unveiled/

http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/63785

Really? Then prove it or just #@*&

[QUOTE="johny300"][QUOTE="chase_arizona"]

Gears of War 3 is better than all of those.

chase_arizona

The first two games were highly critically acclaimed shooters, and Gears of War 3 will exceed them in every way, and will have superior online as well. The Gears of War series has blown Killzone and Resistance out of the water, and Socom won't be anything special. And you have a game in your sig calling it "GOTY" when nothing is even known about it.

[QUOTE="FIipMode"]

[QUOTE="TheXFiles88"]

Really? Here are the World Wide sales numbers from the independent data. As of 5/2010 even before the "S" models were released, the Xbox360 had 4.35mil more than PS3. You could imagine what the WW lead of the Xbox360 would be now. I wonder who is misinformed or full of ******* or a mixture of the two:roll:

long with the NPD sales for today the numbers for worldwide console sales have been released and they're as recent as a little less than two months ago. You will find that based on the numbers Wii is still pretty far up there but 360 and PS3 is catching up and PS3 is catching up to the 360 too. After the break you will be able to see all the console sales for evey year up to now which is pretty interesting too.

• Wii – 70.93 Million Units
• Xbox 360 – 40.3 Million Units
• PlayStation 3 – 35.95 Million Units

http://dlb-network.com/2010/05/worldwide-console-sales-numbers-unveiled/

http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/63785

TheXFiles88

Really? Then prove it or......

No problem.

Latest fiscal reports.

http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/financial/fr/viewer/10q2/

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/113/1131103p1.html

http://www.microsoft.com/investor/EarningsAndFinancials/Earnings/SegmentResults/EntertainmentAndDevicesDivision/FY11/Q1/Kpi.aspx

[QUOTE="TheXFiles88"]

[QUOTE="FIipMode"]The gap is at 2.9 now, where have you been? I'm honestly convinced your just trying to have some fun with us.

FIipMode

Really? Then prove it or......

No problem.

Latest fiscal reports.

http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/financial/fr/viewer/10q2/

http://www.microsoft.com/investor/EarningsAndFinancials/Earnings/SegmentResults/EntertainmentAndDevicesDivision/FY11/Q1/performance.aspx

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/113/1131103p1.html

Again, I can only get the numbers for the Xbox from Ign. Where is the independent numbers for Sony's PS3? Don't try to link me with any "SHIPPED" numbers from either MS or Sony because that is irrelevant to our discussion here. I want the numbers from the "INDEPENDENT" data.

[QUOTE="chase_arizona"]

[QUOTE="johny300"] Keep telling that to you're self :lol:.johny300

The first two games were highly critically acclaimed shooters, and Gears of War 3 will exceed them in every way, and will have superior online as well. The Gears of War series has blown Killzone and Resistance out of the water, and Socom won't be anything special. And you have a game in your sig calling it "GOTY" when nothing is even known about it.

Gears of War 2 has a higher metacritic score, just saying.

[QUOTE="FIipMode"]

[QUOTE="TheXFiles88"]

Really? Then prove it or......

TheXFiles88

No problem.

Latest fiscal reports.

http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/financial/fr/viewer/10q2/

http://www.microsoft.com/investor/EarningsAndFinancials/Earnings/SegmentResults/EntertainmentAndDevicesDivision/FY11/Q1/performance.aspx

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/113/1131103p1.html

Again, I can only get the numbers for the Xbox from Ign. Where is the independent numbers for Sony's PS3? Don't try to link me with any "SHIPPED" numbers from either MS or Sony because that is irrelevant to our discussion here. I want the numbers from the "INDEPENDENT" data.

[QUOTE="TheXFiles88"]

[QUOTE="FIipMode"]

No problem.

Latest fiscal reports.

http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/financial/fr/viewer/10q2/

http://www.microsoft.com/investor/EarningsAndFinancials/Earnings/SegmentResults/EntertainmentAndDevicesDivision/FY11/Q1/performance.aspx

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/113/1131103p1.html

FIipMode

Again, I can only get the numbers for the Xbox from Ign. Where is the independent numbers for Sony's PS3? Don't try to link me with any "SHIPPED" numbers from either MS or Sony because that is irrelevant to our discussion here. I want the numbers from the "INDEPENDENT" data.

The gap is definitely not 2.9 million.

[QUOTE="johny300"][QUOTE="chase_arizona"]

The first two games were highly critically acclaimed shooters, and Gears of War 3 will exceed them in every way, and will have superior online as well. The Gears of War series has blown Killzone and Resistance out of the water, and Socom won't be anything special. And you have a game in your sig calling it "GOTY" when nothing is even known about it.

chase_arizona

Gears of War 2 has a higher metacritic score, just saying.

Wow. you cows said the same thing this year and what happens when the smoke clears......the xbox 360 held it down and smashing them in sales. I know they will have more games for the 360 next year. Between the stuff microsoft will come out with and third parties,it will take the hype from most of those games.

[QUOTE="chase_arizona"]

[QUOTE="johny300"] Leave my sig alone and focus on arguing lol, and wow can you see the future ? the gears of war series has blown KZ and R out of the water that made me lol , how exactly? see the scores, KZ 2 is AAAE , R1 is AAE, R2 is AAAE , and soon KZ3 and R3 so stop talking BS, how is gears of war is better than all of those? it's you're opinion deal with it.johny300

Gears of War 2 has a higher metacritic score, just saying.

Alot of people look at Metacritic. Don't be mad because Gears of War 3 will beat those games.

[QUOTE="chase_arizona"]

[QUOTE="johny300"] Leave my sig alone and focus on arguing lol, and wow can you see the future ? the gears of war series has blown KZ and R out of the water that made me lol , how exactly? see the scores, KZ 2 is AAAE , R1 is AAE, R2 is AAAE , and soon KZ3 and R3 so stop talking BS, how is gears of war is better than all of those? it's you're opinion deal with it.johny300

Gears of War 2 has a higher metacritic score, just saying.

No, when the scores are higher somewhere else some one says "GS isn't the only site that matters" but when they are higher here someone says "We only go by GS scores", just saying.

[QUOTE="johny300"][QUOTE="chase_arizona"]

Gears of War 2 has a higher metacritic score, just saying.

chase_arizona

Alot of people look at Metacritic. Don't be mad because Gears of War 3 will beat those games.

So true. Said the same thing this year and what happens when the smoke clears......the xbox 360 held it down and smashing them in sails.yourafool

Sailes?! SAILS??!! I didn't know MS made those!

[QUOTE="chase_arizona"]

[QUOTE="johny300"] We go by GAMESPOT scores just saying.johny300

Alot of people look at Metacritic. Don't be mad because Gears of War 3 will beat those games.

Gears of War 2 is the better game deal with it.

[QUOTE="chase_arizona"]

[QUOTE="johny300"] We go by GAMESPOT scores just saying.johny300

Alot of people look at Metacritic. Don't be mad because Gears of War 3 will beat those games.

Only when it helps someone's argument, but if it doesn't they go to metacritic.

If Killzone 2 had a higher metacritic score you would use it. Stop acting butt hurt.

[QUOTE="johny300"][QUOTE="chase_arizona"]

Alot of people look at Metacritic. Don't be mad because Gears of War 3 will beat those games.

Hatiko

Only when it helps someone's argument, but if it doesn't they go to metacritic.

It does help my argument because Gears is a AAA franchise.

[QUOTE="johny300"][QUOTE="chase_arizona"]

Gears of War 2 has a higher metacritic score, just saying.

Hatiko

No, when the scores are higher somewhere else some one says "GS isn't the only site that matters" but when they are higher here someone says "We only go by GS scores", just saying.

Those are fanboys ignore them, We still go by GS score my point still stands.

[QUOTE="yourafool"] So true. Said the same thing this year and what happens when the smoke clears......the xbox 360 held it down and smashing them in sails.Hatiko

Sailes?! SAILS??!! I didn't know MS made those!

[QUOTE="Hatiko"]

[QUOTE="johny300"] We go by GAMESPOT scores just saying.johny300

No, when the scores are higher somewhere else some one says "GS isn't the only site that matters" but when they are higher here someone says "We only go by GS scores", just saying.

Those are fanboys ignore them, We still go by GS score my point still stands.

Alright whats your point. Many people use metacritic on this site. You're telling me not to use it because Killzone has a lower metacritic. If Killzone 2 had a higher metacritic score, you would use it for a fact.

[QUOTE="johny300"][QUOTE="chase_arizona"]

Alot of people look at Metacritic. Don't be mad because Gears of War 3 will beat those games.

chase_arizona

Gears of War 2 is the better game deal with it.

[QUOTE="shinrabanshou"]

The European charts are from Gfk-ChartTrack for the UK, France, Germany and Spain via Nintendo, the Japanese numbers are from Media Create. Both are sell through trackers.

There are no worldwide sell-through numbers so you're either misinformed, full of **** or a mixture of the two. :|

TheXFiles88

Really? Here are the World Wide sales numbers from the independent data. As of 5/2010 even before the "S" models were released, the Xbox360 had 4.35mil more than PS3. You could imagine what the WW lead of the Xbox360 would be now. I wonder who is misinformed or full of ******* or a mixture of the two:roll:

"Along with the NPD sales for today the numbers for worldwide console sales have been released and they're as recent as a little less than two months ago. You will find that based on the numbers Wii is still pretty far up there but 360 and PS3 is catching up and PS3 is catching up to the 360 too. After the break you will be able to see all the console sales for evey year up to now which is pretty interesting too."

• Wii – 70.93 Million Units
• Xbox 360 – 40.3 Million Units
• PlayStation 3 – 35.95 Million Units

http://dlb-network.com/2010/05/worldwide-console-sales-numbers-unveiled/

http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/63785

Which means not only are they not "independent" numbers, they're shipped numbers, which you keep trying to deride.

And even further they're horribly out of date.

Congratulations, you just triple-owned yourself.

[QUOTE="Hatiko"]

[QUOTE="yourafool"] So true. Said the same thing this year and what happens when the smoke clears......the xbox 360 held it down and smashing them in sails.yourafool

Sailes?! SAILS??!! I didn't know MS made those!

lol, while I was poking fun at your spelling I spelled it wrong my self -"sailes".

[QUOTE="chase_arizona"]

[QUOTE="johny300"] In SW we go by GAMESPOT scores deal with it.johny300

Gears of War 2 is the better game deal with it.

And you're opinion is that Killzone is better. It's a clunky FPS that lives in Halo's shadow.

Just because you want to ignore the metacritc because it doesn't help your argument doesn't mean it's not there.