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#51 whiskeystrike
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[QUOTE="whiskeystrike"]

[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

so you want them to basically be careless with the game and make a ton of glitches instead of polishing it? theres no such thing as melee style gameplay nerd just exploited glitches and made the game more then it was suppose to be

Mario1331

I'm not talking about wavedashing and stuff like that, I'm talking about the faster, heavier feel of melee.

I mean the tripping nonsense in brawl. WTF was that crap? Being able to get out of just about any combo? 0 punishment?

melee was faster but there way too many characters that seemed overpowered in that game brawl is imo more balanced

Metaknight and Solidsnake (but mostly Metaknight) say nope. Brawl characters did feel more varied but Brawl had horrible balance.

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#52 Demonjoe93
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Bring everybody back from Brawl.

Add more Sonic characters.

Add Mega Man characters.

Make the game control like Melee did. I didn't care for the flaotiness in Brawl.

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#53 Cherokee_Jack
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melee was faster but there way too many characters that seemed overpowered in that game brawl is imo more balancedMario1331
Who cares about balance? This is Smash Bros.
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#54 Scythes777
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Sakurai said that Melee was too fast, so SSB4 will not be as fast as Melee. Hopefully it finds a nice middle ground between Melee and Brawl.

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#55 LastRambo341
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Whats with people wanting so many guest characters? :? Its a Nintendo fighting game!
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#57 Mantleman
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[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"][QUOTE="charizard1605"]Retain the Brawl rostercharizard1605
Choose Lucas or Ness, and get rid of the other.

Okay, I agree, let's get rid of redundant characters. So keep Ness, get rid of Lucas, keep Marth, get rid of Ike, remove Lucario and bring back Mewtwo, keep both Falco and Fox, and for the love of all that is holy, make Falco like he was in Melee. He was useless in Brawl.

I agree they need to get rid of clones...Toon Link was a complete clone of Link..GanaDORK is a clone of Captain Falcon but just slower and and powerful. Ike and Marth are very different indeed...I mean to me Marth is a whimp (I first thought he was a girl) plus his Final Smash is the only one that I know that is a one hit KO. Lucas and Ness is the closest we will ever have to an Earthbound game so they need to stay

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#58 MLBknights58
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MegaMan. Maybe Zero as well. They managed to get snake, and megaman and zero would fit SSB better than snake ever could. SF_KiLLaMaN

Yes. This. A thousand times this.

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#59 bobcheeseball
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Less floaty, no tripping, expanded roster, and improved Stage Builder is all I want :)
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#60 deactivated-5e0e425ee91d8
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I want Model ZX! Have megaman, and Zero as one charecter with the easy ability to change
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#61 Miroku32
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Let's see: get rid of useless characters like Lucas but keep most of the cast from Brawl. Add characters like Shulk, Melia, Fiora, Daisy, someone else from Metroid, Megaman, Shadow the Hedgehog, Raiden, remove that stupid tripping that killed my joy in brawl, and make it play like Melee.
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#62 FashionFreak
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Limit of 3 pokemon. Pikachu, Jigglypuff, and ONE gen 5 pokemon. Too many pokemon taking up development time that could be used for characters in other IPs.

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#63 Another48hours
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Maybe it won't be broken this time.
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#64 nintendofreak_2
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It's going to be a long time before we start seeing anything like footage on the game(s) but it's nice to see that development of some sort has officially started.

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#65 Mario1331
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[QUOTE="Mario1331"]melee was faster but there way too many characters that seemed overpowered in that game brawl is imo more balancedCherokee_Jack
Who cares about balance? This is Smash Bros.

every fighter needs some sort of balance, i like the fact everybody had a chance to win no matter who you use that was my point

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#66 Mario1331
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[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

[QUOTE="whiskeystrike"]

I'm not talking about wavedashing and stuff like that, I'm talking about the faster, heavier feel of melee.

I mean the tripping nonsense in brawl. WTF was that crap? Being able to get out of just about any combo? 0 punishment?

whiskeystrike

melee was faster but there way too many characters that seemed overpowered in that game brawl is imo more balanced

Metaknight and Solidsnake (but mostly Metaknight) say nope. Brawl characters did feel more varied but Brawl had horrible balance.

i guess man i just think melee was way too buggy they fixed alot of problems from melee to brawl

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#67 Mario1331
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[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"] He left HAL BEFORE Brawl was developed.

charizard1605

so sakurai is a 3rd party developer now?

No, he rejoined Nintendo and started up Project Sora, the studio that developed Kid Icarus: Uprising.

yea i got that thanks

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Let's see: get rid of useless characters like Lucas but keep most of the cast from Brawl. Add characters like Shulk, Melia, Fiora, Daisy, someone else from Metroid, Megaman, Shadow the Hedgehog, Raiden, remove that stupid tripping that killed my joy in brawl, and make it play like Melee. Miroku32
lucas > ness. he's just way better.
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#69 gamefree2
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Hopefully Isaac gets in, even though I like Felix better. I would also like to see Micaiah, from Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn, in too.
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#70 Another48hours
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Let's see: get rid of useless characters like Lucas but keep most of the cast from Brawl. Add characters like Shulk, Melia, Fiora, Daisy, someone else from Metroid, Megaman, Shadow the Hedgehog, Raiden, remove that stupid tripping that killed my joy in brawl, and make it play like Melee. Miroku32
Megaman is not made for this type of broken party fighter, his moves will be odd, it will feel weird, it won't work, there will be complaints, and unlimited DLC to get him to even be playable. His type of fighting is good for traditional fighters only.
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#71 D4W1L4H
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Take out Lucario and Snake and Meta Knight.

For third party characters add Travis Touchdown, Mega Man and Neku.

For first Party party characters, add Shulk, Reyn and Fiora. Also Lanky Kong and Chunky Kong.


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#72 Kickinurass
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Smash needs more Monster Hunter.

Don't care how - characters, summon, item- just make it happen, Nintendo.

Replace Lucario with Infernape or Blaziken. Or let Pokemon Trainer's alternate costumes be switch the starters to those from newer generations.

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[QUOTE="Miroku32"]Let's see: get rid of useless characters like Lucas but keep most of the cast from Brawl. Add characters like Shulk, Melia, Fiora, Daisy, someone else from Metroid, Megaman, Shadow the Hedgehog, Raiden, remove that stupid tripping that killed my joy in brawl, and make it play like Melee. Another48hours
Megaman is not made for this type of broken party fighter, his moves will be odd, it will feel weird, it won't work, there will be complaints, and unlimited DLC to get him to even be playable. His type of fighting is good for traditional fighters only.

youre too used to playing Mega Man on the capcom fighting games. It would be so easy to put him in SSB

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#74 nintendofreak_2
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Let's see: get rid of useless characters like Lucas but keep most of the cast from Brawl. Add characters like Shulk, Melia, Fiora, Daisy, someone else from Metroid, Megaman, Shadow the Hedgehog, Raiden, remove that stupid tripping that killed my joy in brawl, and make it play like Melee. Miroku32
Oh the irony.

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#75 layton2012
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Keep the brawl lineup, but tone meta knight down a little he is too strong and add professor Layton.
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#76 layton2012
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Smash needs more Monster Hunter.

Don't care how - characters, summon, item- just make it happen, Nintendo.

Replace Lucario with Infernape or Blaziken. Or let Pokemon Trainer's alternate costumes be switch the starters to those from newer generations.

Kickinurass
Lucario will be gone and replaced with someone from the 5th or if its out by then 6th gen.
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#77 magiciandude
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  • Mega Man
  • Shulk (from Xenoblade)
  • Any Final Fantasy character (probably Warrior from FF1)

After that, I don't care who else they put in the game so long as they don't remove anyone from Brawl.

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[QUOTE="Miroku32"]Let's see: get rid of useless characters like Lucas but keep most of the cast from Brawl. Add characters like Shulk, Melia, Fiora, Daisy, someone else from Metroid, Megaman, Shadow the Hedgehog, Raiden, remove that stupid tripping that killed my joy in brawl, and make it play like Melee. nintendofreak_2

Oh the irony.

Oh, wait till you see the Xenoblade cast. Gotta admit that I can't imagine how Melia would work in a SSB though.
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#80 nintendofreak_2
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Oh, wait till you see the Xenoblade cast. Gotta admit that I can't imagine how Melia would work in a SSB though. Miroku32
I'll reserve my judgement on them until I play the game, but I honestly can't see them making it in. I'm sure after I actually do play it that I'll be welcoming them though. :P

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#81 Miroku32
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Well, if Roy and Marth managed to get into Melee before Fire Emblem became popular on the west and Xenoblade appearing in Japan in 2010 I can believe at least Shulk can enter the roster of the next SSB. Perhaps The Last Story and Pandora's Tower characters can appear too.
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#82 nintendofreak_2
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Well, if Roy and Marth managed to get into Melee before Fire Emblem became popular on the west and Xenoblade appearing in Japan in 2010 I can believe at least Shulk can enter the roster of the next SSB. Perhaps The Last Story and Pandora's Tower characters can appear too. Miroku32
Fire Emblem had history and a fanbase though. Xenoblade is only one game, albeit a very well received one.

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#83 Miroku32
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Just stating what I believe. Shulk would made a good addition to the roster although he is a sword user so expect people complaining about that.
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At least put in a new Metroid character. 3 SSB games spanning 8? years apart and no new Metroid characters at all. You can do a downsized Ridley, a plain Metroid, a space pirate, or anyone from MP3/H, or Other M. Just make it happen!

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#85 Enforcedspot
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At least put in a new Metroid character. 3 SSB games spanning 8? years apart and no new Metroid characters at all. You can do a downsized Ridley, a plain Metroid, a space pirate, or anyone from MP3/H, or Other M. Just make it happen!

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2014 please. I don't wait to wait too long.
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#87 Gamingclone
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for the love of God! Please do NOT give us a release date until the game is finished.

Also, I dont really have any particular characters that I want added, but.

I want Sonic removed.

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#88 1PMrFister
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Oh, and if they're gonna add a new third-party character, there can only be one choice:

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-Bring back hitstun -Re-implement l-cancelling -Take out tripping -Remove Meta Knight -Buff Captain Falcon to God Tier -Make Wii U explode if you don't play with GC controller
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King Goomba or GTFO
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#91 Scythes777
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[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"]-Bring back hitstun -Re-implement l-cancelling -Take out tripping -Remove Meta Knight -Buff Captain Falcon to God Tier -Make Wii U explode if you don't play with GC controller

Once again, WHY WOULD YOU REMOVE CHARACTERS?! Meta Knight is a staple of the Kirby franchise, and needs to stay. They could, oh I dont know, nerf him? instead if removing him altogether....
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Oh, and if they're gonna add a new third-party character, there can only be one choice:

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I want them to take a page out of Capcom's playbook, and make a giant versus game. Give me: Super Smash Brothers VS. Ultra SEGA All Stars. Sonic, Team Streets of Rage, Joe Musashi, Vectorman, Alex Kidd, the car from Daytona USA, along with the rest of the Sega crew, would take the war to the Mushroom Kingdom!

Oh, and maybe put Mega Man in it too. :)

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#94 93BlackHawk93
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Wtf is up with wanting to cut chars? None of the roster is actually useless. Just don't make clones. And Lucas deserves to be in. If you played Mother 3, you would know.

More chars = More variety/fun.

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#95 93BlackHawk93
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I can see Ryu and Megaman in it, but they should keep 3rd party characters at minimum.

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#96 Tikeio
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Oh, and if they're gonna add a new third-party character, there can only be one choice:

1PMrFister

Who? Teenage version of Jack Nicholson? :?

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You know I would really like for them to shake things up and change the gameplay to a traditional fighter.
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#98 Tikeio
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You know I would really like for them to shake things up and change the gameplay to a traditional fighter.kage_53

I wouldn't be against it, but it would certainly scare away casual gamers.

Brawl sold +10 million copies for one simple reason, people just wanted to have fun beating the s**t out of Nintendo characters.

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#99 Nega3
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I want them to take a page out of Capcom's playbook, and make a giant versus game. Give me: Super Smash Brothers VS. Ultra SEGA All Stars. Sonic, Team Streets of Rage, Joe Musashi, Vectorman, Alex Kidd, the car from Daytona USA, along with the rest of the Sega crew, would take the war to the Mushroom Kingdom!

Oh, and maybe put Mega Man in it too. :)

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That will be AWESOME!!

Amy Rose pl0x.

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#100 nintendoboy16
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You know I would really like for them to shake things up and change the gameplay to a traditional fighter.kage_53
And then the Smash Bros fanbase has a nuclear reaction.