Sales Number are in for PC

ok console gamers always say NPD numbers this this games sell better but we PC gamers always stat NPD does not track D2D and Steam downloads(the majority of the game sales)

well the numbers are in and in 2009 Consoles vs PC gaming

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6246425.html 19.6 billion(down 8percent from 2008 )

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6253286.html?tag=latestheadlines;title;5 13 billion(up 3 percent from 2008 )

Ok so 80% priacy debate is mutePS3 and Microsoft combine for 12billion PC toped them both.

So who said PC gaming was dying,needed a resurection?

p.s 13billion and that doesn not include hardware :)

To be fair, I think the article only says that boxed content accounts for < 20% of PC software "revenue". Which means that, in addition to Steam and D2D and other forms of online distribution, it would be counting the large number of people subscribed to MMOs, for example, as software revenue.

Still - incredible numbers. Hopefully we can simply ignore PC retail sales from now on for the purpose of claiming "ownage" or "death".

I'll believe it, personally my last 5 PC game purchases have all been through Steam or D2D, mostly due to convenience since I don't have a car up here at college right now. General_X

ubisoft needs to learn poor people pirate people who can afford the game will just buy it. dawgrejectx

To be fair, I think the article only says that boxed content accounts for < 20% of PC software "revenue". Which means that, in addition to Steam and D2D and other forms of online distribution, it would be counting the large number of people subscribed to MMOs, for example, as software revenue.

Still - incredible numbers. Hopefully we can simply ignore PC retail sales from now on for the purpose of claiming "ownage" or "death".

SakusEnvoy

Specifically, "high-end" subscription revenues ($10 a month or more) were down, blamed on a combination of fewer major releases using the scheme and more players cancelling their accounts to older games.

To be fair, I think the article only says that boxed content accounts for < 20% of PC software "revenue". Which means that, in addition to Steam and D2D and other forms of online distribution, it would be counting the large number of people subscribed to MMOs, for example, as software revenue.

Still - incredible numbers. Hopefully we can simply ignore PC retail sales from now on for the purpose of claiming "ownage" or "death".

SakusEnvoy

NO WAY, PC gaming still dominates everything????? I was just getting ready to throw out my PC and buy a Nintendo Wii.

@people who said PC gaming is dying

HAAAAHAAA!

[QUOTE="dawgrejectx"] ubisoft needs to learn poor people pirate people who can afford the game will just buy it. gamer620

Amazing, I knew DD was getting popular but not this much!

BUT TEH PC GAMING IS DYING! :lol:

PC gaming is alive and well haters :D

I expect the consolites to avoid this thread like the plague.blue_hazy_basic

[QUOTE="SakusEnvoy"]

To be fair, I think the article only says that boxed content accounts for < 20% of PC software "revenue". Which means that, in addition to Steam and D2D and other forms of online distribution, it would be counting the large number of people subscribed to MMOs, for example, as software revenue.

Still - incredible numbers. Hopefully we can simply ignore PC retail sales from now on for the purpose of claiming "ownage" or "death".

Ontain

Im waiting for the damage control from console fanboys............. but but but pc gaming is dying:cry:

WoW alone probably generates more revenue than both of the HD consoles anyway lol.

Where are all the pc haters? The ones who laughed and said PC GAMING IS DEAD? :roll:

This is great who said pc gaming was dying?I Just hope they still make retail pc games its bad enough they started making pc games in the slim dvd style next thing you know i won't even be able to buy any physical copy of a game :(

WOW is contributing around 10% of that by itself.

I was proclaiming that this is how things would evolve steadily over a year ago. Back then, it was half and half. It is no surprise that DD is dominating now. Vandalvideo

i am sure those number includes yahoo and facebook game, and MMORPG revenue too. of course they are not included in NDP neither.

btw WOW = 12million subscribe and $15 per month, that's 180M out there, not mentioning other monthly fee mmorpg

I hightly doubt they can more $ on pc especially those multi-platform games. i am sure you guys are comparing multi-platform games like bioshock 2, BFBC2, and MW2. lol console definately generates more sales than pc on this types of game. otherwise why would they want to make console version on crysis 2? unfortunately, action games = console owning now.

PC = MMORPG, flash games (farmville), and RTS.

RPG, FPS, TPS, Platforming, and all action games = console.

5 year console > PC Gaming:lol:. I'm really glad I built a rig these days. Good news for the platform.

This is great who said pc gaming was dying?I Just hope they still make retail pc games its bad enough they started making pc games in the slim dvd style next thing you know i won't even be able to buy any physical copy of a game :(

DJ_Headshot

i am sure those number includes yahoo and facebook game, and MMORPG revenue too. of course they are not included in NDP neither.

btw WOW = 12million subscribe and $15 per month, that's 180M out there, not mentioning other monthly fee mmorpg

I hightly doubt they can more $ on pc especially those multi-platform games. i am sure you guys are comparing multi-platform games like bioshock 2, BFBC2, and MW2. lol console definately generates more sales than pc on this types of game. otherwise why would they want to make console version on crysis 2? unfortunately, action games = console owning now.

PC = MMORPG, flash games (farmville), and RTS.

RPG, FPS, TPS, Platforming, and all action games = console.

oajlu

Thats not true at all, pc has TONS of awesome rpgs. To say RPGS are only on consoles or for consoles is RIDICOLOUS.

I dont like MMOS and rarely like RTS games and I LOVE PC GAMING. PC gaming has more FPS and more western RPGS then consoles sorry bud you are wrong.

PC gaming is MUCH MUCH more then just MMOS and RTS, you are mistaken.

Consles = better for fighting, sports and platforming games

PC = better for FPS, RTS, MMO, simulations

TIE = RPGS and TPS

You must not have played pc gamign in years? Cuz FPS are best on pc.

I've picked up about a dozen PC games in the last year and they have all been DD. I don't miss having a hard copy at all.

i am sure those number includes yahoo and facebook game, and MMORPG revenue too. of course they are not included in NDP neither.

btw WOW = 12million subscribe and $15 per month, that's 180M out there, not mentioning other monthly fee mmorpg

I hightly doubt they can more $ on pc especially those multi-platform games. i am sure you guys are comparing multi-platform games like bioshock 2, BFBC2, and MW2. lol console definately generates more sales than pc on this types of game. otherwise why would they want to make console version on crysis 2? unfortunately, action games = console owning now.

PC = MMORPG, flash games (farmville), and RTS.

RPG, FPS, TPS, Platforming, and all action games = console.

oajlu

PC gaming is the best. This will never change because PC gaming = freedom. Freedom to customize parts, to mod games any way I want, to download my game rather than leave my couch, etc.

[QUOTE="oajlu"]

i am sure those number includes yahoo and facebook game, and MMORPG revenue too. of course they are not included in NDP neither.

btw WOW = 12million subscribe and $15 per month, that's 180M out there, not mentioning other monthly fee mmorpg

I hightly doubt they can more $ on pc especially those multi-platform games. i am sure you guys are comparing multi-platform games like bioshock 2, BFBC2, and MW2. lol console definately generates more sales than pc on this types of game. otherwise why would they want to make console version on crysis 2? unfortunately, action games = console owning now.

PC = MMORPG, flash games (farmville), and RTS.

RPG, FPS, TPS, Platforming, and all action games = console.

kozzy1234

Thats not true at all, pc has TONS of awesome rpgs. To say RPGS are only on consoles or for consoles is RIDICOLOUS.

I dont like MMOS and rarely like RTS games and I LOVE PC GAMING. PC gaming has more FPS and more RPGS then consoles sorry bud you are wrong.

PC gaming is MUCH MUCH more then just MMOS and RTS, you are mistaken.

That's a nice way of saying it. Totally ignorant is more accurate and even that is too nice. There are still plenty of RPG's on the PC that you can't get any place else. Especially RPG/strat games like King's Bounty. Then you have action RPG's like Torchlight and Titan Quest. Save for JRPG's the PC is better. The Witcher is yet another example.

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[QUOTE="oajlu"]

i am sure those number includes yahoo and facebook game, and MMORPG revenue too. of course they are not included in NDP neither.

btw WOW = 12million subscribe and $15 per month, that's 180M out there, not mentioning other monthly fee mmorpg

I hightly doubt they can more $ on pc especially those multi-platform games. i am sure you guys are comparing multi-platform games like bioshock 2, BFBC2, and MW2. lol console definately generates more sales than pc on this types of game. otherwise why would they want to make console version on crysis 2? unfortunately, action games = console owning now.

PC = MMORPG, flash games (farmville), and RTS.

RPG, FPS, TPS, Platforming, and all action games = console.

Thats not true at all, pc has TONS of awesome rpgs. To say RPGS are only on consoles or for consoles is RIDICOLOUS.

I dont like MMOS and rarely like RTS games and I LOVE PC GAMING. PC gaming has more FPS and more RPGS then consoles sorry bud you are wrong.

PC gaming is MUCH MUCH more then just MMOS and RTS, you are mistaken.

That's a nice way of saying. Totally ignorant is more accurate and even that is too nice. There are still plenty of RPG's on the PC that you can't get any place else. Especially RPG/strat games like King's Bounty. Then you have action RPG's like Torchlight and Titan Quest. Save for JRPG's the PC is better. The Witcher is yet another example.

[QUOTE="oajlu"]

i am sure those number includes yahoo and facebook game, and MMORPG revenue too. of course they are not included in NDP neither.

btw WOW = 12million subscribe and $15 per month, that's 180M out there, not mentioning other monthly fee mmorpg

I hightly doubt they can more $ on pc especially those multi-platform games. i am sure you guys are comparing multi-platform games like bioshock 2, BFBC2, and MW2. lol console definately generates more sales than pc on this types of game. otherwise why would they want to make console version on crysis 2? unfortunately, action games = console owning now.

PC = MMORPG, flash games (farmville), and RTS.

RPG, FPS, TPS, Platforming, and all action games = console.

Theguy56

yes fps's mainstream is on console now. mainsteam = whoever has more sales (pirated gamers are not included, $5 stalker or $10 crysisbuyers dont help much).

Halo 3: 10m copies, MW2: 15M+ , Waw: 10M, MW1: 12M, BFBC2, Bioshock 2, borderland.....they outsell pc by a huge number in $.

otherwise why would they decide to make crysis 2 on console? they makes games on the platform which they can generate the most profit, for fps, pc is definately worse than console now.

To be fair, I think the article only says that boxed content accounts for < 20% of PC software "revenue". Which means that, in addition to Steam and D2D and other forms of online distribution, it would be counting the large number of people subscribed to MMOs, for example, as software revenue.

Still - incredible numbers. Hopefully we can simply ignore PC retail sales from now on for the purpose of claiming "ownage" or "death".

SakusEnvoy

[QUOTE="Kiyobear"]

[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

Thats not true at all, pc has TONS of awesome rpgs. To say RPGS are only on consoles or for consoles is RIDICOLOUS.

I dont like MMOS and rarely like RTS games and I LOVE PC GAMING. PC gaming has more FPS and more RPGS then consoles sorry bud you are wrong.

PC gaming is MUCH MUCH more then just MMOS and RTS, you are mistaken.

blue_hazy_basic

That's a nice way of saying. Totally ignorant is more accurate and even that is too nice. There are still plenty of RPG's on the PC that you can't get any place else. Especially RPG/strat games like King's Bounty. Then you have action RPG's like Torchlight and Titan Quest. Save for JRPG's the PC is better. The Witcher is yet another example.

mod doesnt help them make $, but DLC does. they gotta make $ first otherwise they dont see demand to make new games on this platform.

[QUOTE="Theguy56"][QUOTE="oajlu"]

i am sure those number includes yahoo and facebook game, and MMORPG revenue too. of course they are not included in NDP neither.

btw WOW = 12million subscribe and $15 per month, that's 180M out there, not mentioning other monthly fee mmorpg

I hightly doubt they can more $ on pc especially those multi-platform games. i am sure you guys are comparing multi-platform games like bioshock 2, BFBC2, and MW2. lol console definately generates more sales than pc on this types of game. otherwise why would they want to make console version on crysis 2? unfortunately, action games = console owning now.

PC = MMORPG, flash games (farmville), and RTS.

RPG, FPS, TPS, Platforming, and all action games = console.

yes fps's mainstream is on console now. mainsteam = whoever has more sales (pirated gamers are not included, $5 stalker or $10 crysisbuyers dont help much).

Halo 3: 10m copies, MW2: 15M+ , Waw: 10M, MW1: 12M, BFBC2, Bioshock 2, borderland.....they outsell pc by a huge number in $.

otherwise why would they decide to make crysis 2 on console? they makes games on the platform which they can generate the most profit, for fps, pc is definately worse than console now.

[QUOTE="Theguy56"][QUOTE="oajlu"]

i am sure those number includes yahoo and facebook game, and MMORPG revenue too. of course they are not included in NDP neither.

btw WOW = 12million subscribe and $15 per month, that's 180M out there, not mentioning other monthly fee mmorpg

I hightly doubt they can more $ on pc especially those multi-platform games. i am sure you guys are comparing multi-platform games like bioshock 2, BFBC2, and MW2. lol console definately generates more sales than pc on this types of game. otherwise why would they want to make console version on crysis 2? unfortunately, action games = console owning now.

PC = MMORPG, flash games (farmville), and RTS.

RPG, FPS, TPS, Platforming, and all action games = console.

oajlu

yes fps's mainstream is on console now. mainsteam = whoever has more sales (pirated gamers are not included, $5 stalker or $10 crysisbuyers dont help much).

Halo 3: 10m copies, MW2: 15M+ , Waw: 10M, MW1: 12M, BFBC2, Bioshock 2, borderland.....they outsell pc by a huge number in $.

otherwise why would they decide to make crysis 2 on console? they makes games on the platform which they can generate the most profit, for fps, pc is definately worse than console now.

You really have no idea what you are talking about if you think FPS or RPGS are better on consoles, stop the trolling.

Like I said before... I LOVE pc gaming and I dont like MMOS at all and only like a few rts games.... RPG and FPS are my favorite genres and they are GREAT on PC, nice try though!

[QUOTE="Theguy56"][QUOTE="oajlu"]

i am sure those number includes yahoo and facebook game, and MMORPG revenue too. of course they are not included in NDP neither.

btw WOW = 12million subscribe and $15 per month, that's 180M out there, not mentioning other monthly fee mmorpg

I hightly doubt they can more $ on pc especially those multi-platform games. i am sure you guys are comparing multi-platform games like bioshock 2, BFBC2, and MW2. lol console definately generates more sales than pc on this types of game. otherwise why would they want to make console version on crysis 2? unfortunately, action games = console owning now.

PC = MMORPG, flash games (farmville), and RTS.

RPG, FPS, TPS, Platforming, and all action games = console.

oajlu

yes fps's mainstream is on console now. mainsteam = whoever has more sales (pirated gamers are not included, $5 stalker or $10 crysisbuyers dont help much).

Halo 3: 10m copies, MW2: 15M+ , Waw: 10M, MW1: 12M, BFBC2, Bioshock 2, borderland.....they outsell pc by a huge number in $.

otherwise why would they decide to make crysis 2 on console? they makes games on the platform which they can generate the most profit, for fps, pc is definately worse than console now.

DIce has stated that there have been more people online playing BF:BC 2for the PC then both consoles combined.

This is great who said pc gaming was dying?I Just hope they still make retail pc games its bad enough they started making pc games in the slim dvd style next thing you know i won't even be able to buy any physical copy of a game :(

DJ_Headshot

I will always buy box after my Steam experience. Slick client but no control over content.

Box will be around for quite some time. :D

i am sure those number includes yahoo and facebook game, and MMORPG revenue too. of course they are not included in NDP neither.

btw WOW = 12million subscribe and $15 per month, that's 180M out there, not mentioning other monthly fee mmorpg

I hightly doubt they can more $ on pc especially those multi-platform games. i am sure you guys are comparing multi-platform games like bioshock 2, BFBC2, and MW2. lol console definately generates more sales than pc on this types of game. otherwise why would they want to make console version on crysis 2? unfortunately, action games = console owning now.

PC = MMORPG, flash games (farmville), and RTS.

RPG, FPS, TPS, Platforming, and all action games = console.

oajlu

This is more correct:

PC = MMORPG, RTS, FPS, WRPG, TPS

Console = Hack&Slash, Platforming, Action games and Garbage JRPG

[QUOTE="oajlu"]

[QUOTE="Theguy56"] Did you just say FPS = console? I must be dreaming.Kiyobear

yes fps's mainstream is on console now. mainsteam = whoever has more sales (pirated gamers are not included, $5 stalker or $10 crysisbuyers dont help much).

Halo 3: 10m copies, MW2: 15M+ , Waw: 10M, MW1: 12M, BFBC2, Bioshock 2, borderland.....they outsell pc by a huge number in $.

otherwise why would they decide to make crysis 2 on console? they makes games on the platform which they can generate the most profit, for fps, pc is definately worse than console now.

DIce has stated that there have been more people online playing BF:BC 2for the PC then both consoles combined.

Quoted for the truth

[QUOTE="DJ_Headshot"]

This is great who said pc gaming was dying?I Just hope they still make retail pc games its bad enough they started making pc games in the slim dvd style next thing you know i won't even be able to buy any physical copy of a game :(

KristoffBrujah

I will always buy box after my Steam experience. Slick client but no control over content.

Box will be around for quite some time. :D

I've never hada problem with Steam. I here the Steam version of Oblivion won't take some mods so if I do get it I will prolly go with D2D. Still, I've never had an issue with Steam; I love it.

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="Kiyobear"]

That's a nice way of saying. Totally ignorant is more accurate and even that is too nice. There are still plenty of RPG's on the PC that you can't get any place else. Especially RPG/strat games like King's Bounty. Then you have action RPG's like Torchlight and Titan Quest. Save for JRPG's the PC is better. The Witcher is yet another example.

mod doesnt help them make $, but DLC does. they gotta make $ first otherwise they dont see demand to make new games on this platform.

GhoX

[QUOTE="oajlu"]

i am sure those number includes yahoo and facebook game, and MMORPG revenue too. of course they are not included in NDP neither.

btw WOW = 12million subscribe and $15 per month, that's 180M out there, not mentioning other monthly fee mmorpg

I hightly doubt they can more $ on pc especially those multi-platform games. i am sure you guys are comparing multi-platform games like bioshock 2, BFBC2, and MW2. lol console definately generates more sales than pc on this types of game. otherwise why would they want to make console version on crysis 2? unfortunately, action games = console owning now.

PC = MMORPG, flash games (farmville), and RTS.

RPG, FPS, TPS, Platforming, and all action games = console.

sleepingzzz

This is more correct:

PC = MMORPG, RTS, FPS, WRPG, TPS

Console = Hack&Slash, Platforming, Action games and Garbage JRPG

What the hell is wrong with JRPG's these days? I like the genre, and I don't care about reviews, but even I stopped buying them. This gen has yet to see one great JRPG unless you count a game like Persona 4 but that is on the ps2, it just came out in 08.

Edit: There is Valkeryia Chronicles on the ps3, which I will cut some slack but I didn't like it all that much.

Consolite sales freaks am owned. Lovely.

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[QUOTE="DJ_Headshot"]

This is great who said pc gaming was dying?I Just hope they still make retail pc games its bad enough they started making pc games in the slim dvd style next thing you know i won't even be able to buy any physical copy of a game :(

Kiyobear

I will always buy box after my Steam experience. Slick client but no control over content.

Box will be around for quite some time. :D

I've never hada problem with Steam. I here the Steam version of Oblivion won't take some mods so if I do get it I will prolly go with D2D. Still, I've never had an issue with Steam; I love it.

It forced me to patch one of my games, but did not keep the older version. Some mods (for DAO, and especially the Total War series) require certain versions for compatibility. DAO released a bad patch nerfing the difficulty.

The whole experience of trying to get the older version was frustrating when I can have complete version control with a box. Steam = good if you just want to sit down and play, but if you're tinkering with the game or want to play a certain version, beware.