Sales Number are in for PC

[QUOTE="KalEl370"]

So basically what some people are saying is that a platform with a supposed 263 million userbase (according to pcga) can barely beat out a combined userbase of around 75 million (ps3 and 360)? Hooray!?

Arach666

If they were at the same price,the numbers would be overwhelming.

In your opinion maybe, I would think if the they were the same price, pc gamers would buy far less games and it would still even out. Do you seriously think that pc gamers on average would spend 60 USD a game?

The PC game software industry is bigger than the one for the ps3 and the 360 combined. Wow. Just wow.

[QUOTE="Arach666"]

[QUOTE="KalEl370"]

So basically what some people are saying is that a platform with a supposed 263 million userbase (according to pcga) can barely beat out a combined userbase of around 75 million (ps3 and 360)? Hooray!?

KalEl370

If they were at the same price,the numbers would be overwhelming.

In your opinion maybe, I would think if the they were the same price, pc gamers would buy far less games and it would still even out. Do you seriously think that pc gamers on average would spend 60 USD a game?

[QUOTE="KalEl370"]

[QUOTE="Arach666"] Don´t forget that games on the consoles are insanely more expensive,wich inflates the numbers for the consoles at lot.

If they were at the same price,the numbers would be overwhelming.

Arach666

In your opinion maybe, I would think if the they were the same price, pc gamers would buy far less games and it would still even out. Do you seriously think that pc gamers on average would spend 60 USD a game?

I still think it would stay the same IMO, cheaper games = more sales. But hey, to each his own.

[QUOTE="XenogearsMaster"]A big chunk of that are MMORPGs... and this number is worldwide while the NPD report for consoles are only for NA.ZIMdoom

It also includes microtransactions and online advertising. the PC alliance says they include these numbers because places like NPD don't track it. But if NPD doesn't track it, then those revenue aren't included in the console number either. Therefore, what are the console profits if we add in microtransactions (ie. Home, horse armour, alternate costumes, themes, etc), online advertising (how is this even counted as "software sales"), and subscription fees (ie. XBL fees, FF11 and soon FF13).

In other words, in my opinion, the PC Alliance is once again stacking their deck to create the illusion that game sales are skyrocketing while console sales are dropping. However, once again, their data doesn't prove the point they claim they are trying to make. They are intentionally stacking the deck to inflate their numbers, then comparing it to consoles which they know won't have that information added in.

The PC game software industry is bigger than the one for the ps3 and the 360 combined. Wow. Just wow.

shakmaster13

There goes the excuse.

[QUOTE="shakmaster13"]

The PC game software industry is bigger than the one for the ps3 and the 360 combined. Wow. Just wow.

XenogearsMaster

[QUOTE="XenogearsMaster"][QUOTE="shakmaster13"]

The PC game software industry is bigger than the one for the ps3 and the 360 combined. Wow. Just wow.

devious742

So basically, the real software sales(Retail and DD) count for50 to 55% which is $6.5 billion or more which is divided by 3 (NA, Europe, Asia) $2.2 billion dollar for each territory, which is a small percentage compared to consoles.

LOL @ thePC gamers boasting.

[QUOTE="DJ_Headshot"]This is great who said pc gaming was dying?I Just hope they still make retail pc games its bad enough they started making pc games in the slim dvd style next thing you know i won't even be able to buy any physical copy of a game :(Theguy56

€1 ≠ $1

BUT TEH PC GAMING IS DYING! :lol:

PC gaming is alive and well haters :D

kozzy1234

Yeap!!! Where are all the haters now ? Im calling you out fanboys!!! Teh PC gaming is dying lol!!!!

[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]i dont see why pc gamers love being locked down to downloads. Who wants nothing to show for the money they spent ?Dataleak

Exactly. I can't wait till digital distribution has a significant presence on consoles.

I always knew steam was doing it big but wow massive profit. Consoles do okay even if the games cost more.

[QUOTE="devious742"]

[QUOTE="XenogearsMaster"] Nope, what you saw there are worldwide sales including micro-transactions and online advertising which is not tracked by the NPD group who only tracked sales in NA, not worldwide for the consoles.XenogearsMaster

So basically, the real software sales(Retail and DD) count for50 to 55% which is $6.5 billion or more which is divided by 3 (NA, Europe, Asia) $2.2 billion dollar for each territory, which is a small percentage compared to consoles.

LOL @ thePC gamers boasting.

[QUOTE="devious742"]

[QUOTE="XenogearsMaster"] Nope, what you saw there are worldwide sales including micro-transactions and online advertising which is not tracked by the NPD group who only tracked sales in NA, not worldwide for the consoles.XenogearsMaster

So basically, the real software sales(Retail and DD) count for50 to 55% which is $6.5 billion or more which is divided by 3 (NA, Europe, Asia) $2.2 billion dollar for each territory, which is a small percentage compared to consoles.

LOL @ thePC gamers boasting.

So your wild guess can disprove statistics? Damn, I wish I had God powers like you did. Can you grow a money tree too?

And I've always wondered why console fanboys have so much contempt towards MMO's. It's not "teh hardcorez" enough for you guys? Or are you just too cool to play WOW?

[QUOTE="ZIMdoom"]

[QUOTE="XenogearsMaster"]A big chunk of that are MMORPGs... and this number is worldwide while the NPD report for consoles are only for NA.XenogearsMaster

It also includes microtransactions and online advertising. the PC alliance says they include these numbers because places like NPD don't track it. But if NPD doesn't track it, then those revenue aren't included in the console number either. Therefore, what are the console profits if we add in microtransactions (ie. Home, horse armour, alternate costumes, themes, etc), online advertising (how is this even counted as "software sales"), and subscription fees (ie. XBL fees, FF11 and soon FF13).

In other words, in my opinion, the PC Alliance is once again stacking their deck to create the illusion that game sales are skyrocketing while console sales are dropping. However, once again, their data doesn't prove the point they claim they are trying to make. They are intentionally stacking the deck to inflate their numbers, then comparing it to consoles which they know won't have that information added in.

The fact that you're still bashing PC gaming because it isn't 5390457349857 times more profitable than console gaming is damage control as well.

[QUOTE="devious742"]

[QUOTE="XenogearsMaster"] Nope, what you saw there are worldwide sales including micro-transactions and online advertising which is not tracked by the NPD group who only tracked sales in NA, not worldwide for the consoles.XenogearsMaster

So basically, the real software sales(Retail and DD) count for50 to 55% which is $6.5 billion or more which is divided by 3 (NA, Europe, Asia) $2.2 billion dollar for each territory, which is a small percentage compared to consoles.

LOL @ thePC gamers boasting.

[QUOTE="devious742"]

[QUOTE="XenogearsMaster"] Nope, what you saw there are worldwide sales including micro-transactions and online advertising which is not tracked by the NPD group who only tracked sales in NA, not worldwide for the consoles.XenogearsMaster

So basically, the real software sales(Retail and DD) count for50 to 55% which is $6.5 billion or more which is divided by 3 (NA, Europe, Asia) $2.2 billion dollar for each territory, which is a small percentage compared to consoles.

LOL @ thePC gamers boasting.

So basically you are pulling numbers out of your ass to try and damage control how the PC is actually growing?

Who the hell cares about PC gaming? It's still irrelevant to the general public and always will be.

[QUOTE="devious742"]

[QUOTE="XenogearsMaster"] Nope, what you saw there are worldwide sales including micro-transactions and online advertising which is not tracked by the NPD group who only tracked sales in NA, not worldwide for the consoles.XenogearsMaster

So basically, the real software sales(Retail and DD) count for50 to 55% which is $6.5 billion or more which is divided by 3 (NA, Europe, Asia) $2.2 billion dollar for each territory, which is a small percentage compared to consoles.

LOL @ thePC gamers boasting.

[QUOTE="devious742"]

[QUOTE="XenogearsMaster"] Nope, what you saw there are worldwide sales including micro-transactions and online advertising which is not tracked by the NPD group who only tracked sales in NA, not worldwide for the consoles.XenogearsMaster

So basically, the real software sales(Retail and DD) count for50 to 55% which is $6.5 billion or more which is divided by 3 (NA, Europe, Asia) $2.2 billion dollar for each territory, which is a small percentage compared to consoles.

LOL @ thePC gamers boasting.

Who the hell cares about PC gaming? It's still irrelevant to the general public and always will be.

ThatGuyFromB4

Gotta love this kind of last resort damage control:lol:

[This message was deleted at the request of the original poster]ThatGuyFromB4

You posted here, and responded to a response to your original post. That's a total of three actions: writing, reading, and writing a second time. And you still say you don't care?

[QUOTE="devious742"]

[QUOTE="XenogearsMaster"] Nope, what you saw there are worldwide sales including micro-transactions and online advertising which is not tracked by the NPD group who only tracked sales in NA, not worldwide for the consoles.XenogearsMaster

So basically, the real software sales(Retail and DD) count for50 to 55% which is $6.5 billion or more which is divided by 3 (NA, Europe, Asia) $2.2 billion dollar for each territory, which is a small percentage compared to consoles.

LOL @ thePC gamers boasting.

[QUOTE="ThatGuyFromB4"][This message was deleted at the request of the original poster]Hanass

You posted here, and responded to a response to your original post. That's a total of three actions: writing, reading, and writing a second time. And you still say you don't care?

[QUOTE="Hanass"]

[QUOTE="ThatGuyFromB4"][This message was deleted at the request of the original poster]ThatGuyFromB4

You posted here, and responded to a response to your original post. That's a total of three actions: writing, reading, and writing a second time. And you still say you don't care?

[QUOTE="Hanass"]

[QUOTE="ThatGuyFromB4"][This message was deleted at the request of the original poster]ThatGuyFromB4

You posted here, and responded to a response to your original post. That's a total of three actions: writing, reading, and writing a second time. And you still say you don't care?

2 more actions from you. That's a total of five. And you even got bitter :lol: Make that six. Here's a hint: those who don't care don't even open the thread.

By the way, I care, as well as 5 of my friends, so you fail.

[QUOTE="ThatGuyFromB4"]

[QUOTE="Hanass"]

You posted here, and responded to a response to your original post. That's a total of three actions: writing, reading, and writing a second time. And you still say you don't care?

Arach666

[QUOTE="Arach666"][QUOTE="ThatGuyFromB4"]Are you serious? Yeah, guy, 2 minutes out of my life, whatever will I do? PC gaming is IRRELEVANT. No one cares. Get it thru your heads.

ThatGuyFromB4

[QUOTE="Arach666"][QUOTE="ThatGuyFromB4"]Are you serious? Yeah, guy, 2 minutes out of my life, whatever will I do? PC gaming is IRRELEVANT. No one cares. Get it thru your heads.

ThatGuyFromB4

Ah, good ol' elitism.

[QUOTE="ThatGuyFromB4"]

[QUOTE="Arach666"] Aww,do those numbers hurt you that much? You poor thing...Arach666

[QUOTE="ThatGuyFromB4"]

[QUOTE="Arach666"] Aww,do those numbers hurt you that much? You poor thing...Hanass

Ah, good ol' elitism.

[QUOTE="Arach666"]

[QUOTE="ThatGuyFromB4"]I didn't even read the OP. Don't need to to know how irrelevant PC gaming is. You guys are just in denail at this point. Don't want to admit to yourselves you wasted all that cash on hardware for a dying and irrelevant platform.

theBeorn

[QUOTE="Arach666"][QUOTE="ThatGuyFromB4"]Are you serious? Yeah, guy, 2 minutes out of my life, whatever will I do? PC gaming is IRRELEVANT. No one cares. Get it thru your heads.

ThatGuyFromB4

The dying and irrelevant platform makes more game sales than the ps3 and 360 combined. So what does that make consoles if they have been outsold by a dead platform ???

Keep the damage control going it makes me smile.

[QUOTE="Hanass"]

[QUOTE="ThatGuyFromB4"]I didn't even read the OP. Don't need to to know how irrelevant PC gaming is. You guys are just in denail at this point. Don't want to admit to yourselves you wasted all that cash on hardware for a dying and irrelevant platform.

ThatGuyFromB4

Ah, good ol' elitism.

Yeah, I wonder why PC gamers are the elitist ones here. All I hear is console elitism. Feels like hypocrisy. No wait, it IS hypocrisy!

[QUOTE="theBeorn"][QUOTE="Arach666"]Keep trying buddy,I´m loving your damage control,you are a very amusing guy:lol:

Arach666

Yeah i know, i guess everyone has a purpose :P

I don't care for sales. As long as they are high enough to ensure that devs keep producing PC games, then that is fine for me.

[QUOTE="ThatGuyFromB4"]

[QUOTE="Arach666"] Aww,do those numbers hurt you that much? You poor thing...ChiChiMonKilla

The dying and irrelevant platform makes more game sales than the ps3 and 360 combined. So what does that make consoles if they have been outsold by a dead platform ???

Keep the damage control going it makes me smile.

It makes me smile as well.

To pretty much sum up the thread so far, pc gamers are all

and the blind consolites are all

Because of this, they feel the need to damage control. Why do they get so hurt over this?

It makes me smile as well.

To pretty much sum up the thread so far, pc gamers are all

and the blind consolites are all

Because of this, they feel the need to damage control. Why do they get so hurt over this?

shakmaster13

:lol: Nice.

[QUOTE="ChiChiMonKilla"]

[QUOTE="ThatGuyFromB4"]I didn't even read the OP. Don't need to to know how irrelevant PC gaming is. You guys are just in denail at this point. Don't want to admit to yourselves you wasted all that cash on hardware for a dying and irrelevant platform.

shakmaster13

The dying and irrelevant platform makes more game sales than the ps3 and 360 combined. So what does that make consoles if they have been outsold by a dead platform ???

Keep the damage control going it makes me smile.

It makes me smile as well.

To pretty much sum up the thread so far, pc gamers are all

and the blind consolites are all

Because of this, they feel the need to damage control. Why do they get so hurt over this?

Maybe if fanboys spent more time playing games, then they wouldn't feel the need to bring down other platforms. Nah, that's a crazy idea. It's much better to pretend to be superior to others.

[QUOTE="devious742"] you make it seem like 80% of sales are from micro-transactions and online advertising...when in fact this article is mostly about the decline of retail and the shift towards steam and other online DD services...

So basically, the real software sales(Retail and DD) count for50 to 55% which is $6.5 billion or more which is divided by 3 (NA, Europe, Asia) $2.2 billion dollar for each territory, which is a small percentage compared to consoles.

LOL @ thePC gamers boasting.

Eat that, consolites! Eat it real good :twisted:

[QUOTE="XenogearsMaster"]

[QUOTE="devious742"] you make it seem like 80% of sales are from micro-transactions and online advertising...when in fact this article is mostly about the decline of retail and the shift towards steam and other online DD services...

So basically, the real software sales(Retail and DD) count for50 to 55% which is $6.5 billion or more which is divided by 3 (NA, Europe, Asia) $2.2 billion dollar for each territory, which is a small percentage compared to consoles.

LOL @ thePC gamers boasting.

So your wild guess can disprove statistics? Damn, I wish I had God powers like you did. Can you grow a money tree too?

And I've always wondered why console fanboys have so much contempt towards MMO's. It's not "teh hardcorez" enough for you guys? Or are you just too cool to play WOW?

[QUOTE="devious742"] you make it seem like 80% of sales are from micro-transactions and online advertising...when in fact this article is mostly about the decline of retail and the shift towards steam and other online DD services...

So basically, the real software sales(Retail and DD) count for50 to 55% which is $6.5 billion or more which is divided by 3 (NA, Europe, Asia) $2.2 billion dollar for each territory, which is a small percentage compared to consoles.

LOL @ thePC gamers boasting.