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#1 Lilac_Benjie
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Lets look at some of the things people are saying about Killzone.

You'll travel from a bombed-out city to an industrial-docks area, from the jungle to the desert, from a snowy mountain region to an orbital defense platform that's key to the Helghast invasion strategy. So there's a lot of variety in the game's backdrops.Gamespot

All of the visual components help to make plowing through the bunches of Helghast shock troops fun.IGN

Reaction: Looks like people are rightfully hyping Killzone 2's visuals.

In addition to the expected deathmatch (solo and team varieties), you have domination, which has your team competing to control nodes scattered around the battlefield; assault, which has the offensive team trying to destroy an object being protected by the other team; defend and destroy, which is like assault but tasks both teams with defending an object; and supply drop, which is like capture the flag in that it has you running supplies dropped in the middle of the map back to your base for points. The game runs smoothly enough over a fast Internet connection, even with 16 players involved, and there's some decent variety in the maps, so you can get a lot of extra mileage out of it online.Gamespot

Reaction: Sounds like the online will be as good as Halo, if not better.

Visually it is an artistic achievement. The levels have been painstakingly designed to resemble real world locales, so that a futuristic shipyard based off a real dock strikes a chord of familiarity in gamers. The trenches are trenches, the gardens are gardens, and the government buildings look like once functional, plausible facilities. It's a wonderfully grounded, amazingly cohesive title and it never lets up.IGN

All of those things where said about Killzone on the Playstation 2.

The Cows have returned to hype Killzone "Halo Killer".

Unfortunately, there's not such a great range of enemies to fight. The vast majority of your opponents are basic Helghast grunts, occasionally joined by other Helghast grunts who look slightly different and fight with shotguns or rocket launchers rather than the standard-issue assault rifle.Gamespot

Verdict: Hasn't changed since Killzone.

Guerilla clearly intended for Killzone's battles to have a cinematic feel, and these minor touches do enhance what's otherwise a pretty average shooter.Gamespot

Verdict: Hasn't changed since Killzone.

Killzone's single-player campaign isn't awful, it's just not very inspiring. At its worst it can feel like a chore to plow through another wave of Helghast to get to the next level. At its best, you just feel like you're going through the motions of first-person shooter gameplay you've seen plenty of times before.Gamespot

Verdict: Hasn't changed since Killzone.

Verdict: Same Killzone, different platform.

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#2 Teuf_
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I'm very much failing to understand what you're attempting to accomplish here. You're using bits from the Killzone 1 review to make points about game which we know very little about?
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#3 Korrigan777
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Lets look at some of the things people are saying about Killzone.

[quote="Gamespot"]You'll travel from a bombed-out city to an industrial-docks area, from the jungle to the desert, from a snowy mountain region to an orbital defense platform that's key to the Helghast invasion strategy. So there's a lot of variety in the game's backdrops.Lilac_Benjie

All of the visual components help to make plowing through the bunches of Helghast shock troops fun.IGN

Reaction: Looks like people are rightfully hyping Killzone 2's visuals.

In addition to the expected deathmatch (solo and team varieties), you have domination, which has your team competing to control nodes scattered around the battlefield; assault, which has the offensive team trying to destroy an object being protected by the other team; defend and destroy, which is like assault but tasks both teams with defending an object; and supply drop, which is like capture the flag in that it has you running supplies dropped in the middle of the map back to your base for points. The game runs smoothly enough over a fast Internet connection, even with 16 players involved, and there's some decent variety in the maps, so you can get a lot of extra mileage out of it online.Gamespot

Reaction: Sounds like the online will be as good as Halo, if not better.

Visually it is an artistic achievement. The levels have been painstakingly designed to resemble real world locales, so that a futuristic shipyard based off a real dock strikes a chord of familiarity in gamers. The trenches are trenches, the gardens are gardens, and the government buildings look like once functional, plausible facilities. It's a wonderfully grounded, amazingly cohesive title and it never lets up.IGN

All of those things where said about Killzone on the Playstation 2.

The Cows have returned to hype Killzone "Halo Killer".

Unfortunately, there's not such a great range of enemies to fight. The vast majority of your opponents are basic Helghast grunts, occasionally joined by other Helghast grunts who look slightly different and fight with shotguns or rocket launchers rather than the standard-issue assault rifle.Gamespot

Verdict: Hasn't changed since Killzone.

Guerilla clearly intended for Killzone's battles to have a cinematic feel, and these minor touches do enhance what's otherwise a pretty average shooter.Gamespot

Verdict: Hasn't changed since Killzone.

Killzone's single-player campaign isn't awful, it's just not very inspiring. At its worst it can feel like a chore to plow through another wave of Helghast to get to the next level. At its best, you just feel like you're going through the motions of first-person shooter gameplay you've seen plenty of times before.Gamespot

Verdict: Hasn't changed since Killzone.

it's good to see reviews of a finished game...

why didnt you post N'gai's impression or the other positive one's.

you probably though this post was very clever didnt you?

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#4 Lilac_Benjie
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I'm very much failing to understand what you're attempting to accomplish here?Teufelhuhn

I fail to understand why cows are hyping a flop game like Killzone. Nothing has changed, Killzone is still all flash with no substance. This thread proves that fact.

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#5 Teuf_
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[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]I'm very much failing to understand what you're attempting to accomplish here?Lilac_Benjie

I fail to understand why cows are hyping a rubbish game like Killzone. Nothing has changed since Killzone 1, all flash with no substance.

This thread proves that.



You haven't proved anything at all. You know nothing about KZ2, aside from you saw from a 1-minute trailer.

This isn't even worth my time.
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oh my...i just realized u blew up the ps3 killzone pic to make it look terrible..........ugh i wouldsay somethingbad but i'd probably get modded
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#7 Brian_Zoso
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Yeah that post doesn't make much sense

oh my...i just realized u blew up the ps3 killzone pic to make it look terrible..........ugh i wouldsay somethingbad but i'd probably get modded Korrigan777

haha i just noticed that too, thats kinda sad:|

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#8 ff7isnumbaone
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damn you guys dumb the more u talk about killzone the more u help promote it. Don't matter if its negative publicity. LOL I swear you haters never use your heads.
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#9 Korrigan777
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good to see you fixed that pic TC. now you just need to fix your thread title...it's rather misleading :lol:
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#10 BrooklynBomber
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Hey Tc how did you get killzone 2 retail in 2007 when it's not even beta yet rofl ???
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Effort -A

Presentation - F

Organization -F

Accuracy -F

Funnay - N/A

Verdict -E for Epic fail

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#12 DrinkDuff
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Are those last lines a preview by gamespot for Killzone 2 or Killzone one? I am confused here.
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#13 inertk
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Argh, reading that actually gave me a headache.

It's so damned.... Argh.

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[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]I'm very much failing to understand what you're attempting to accomplish here?Lilac_Benjie

I fail to understand why cows are hyping a flop game like Killzone. Nothing has changed, Killzone is still all flash with no substance. This thread proves that fact.



This is why I hate SW. Your argument (if you can even call it that) has absolutely NO merit whatsoever. Killzone is all flash with no substance huh? Because you've played one of the final builds of the game, both SP and MP and are in any position to make such claims, AMIRITE? Please... :roll:
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[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]I'm very much failing to understand what you're attempting to accomplish here?Lilac_Benjie

I fail to understand why cows are hyping a flop game like Killzone. Nothing has changed, Killzone is still all flash with no substance. This thread proves that fact.

This thread proved what?
We've seen roughly 3 minutes of one level and as good as nobody who's allowed to speak of it actually played the game. Provide me with some actual reviews of KZ2 that say that the gameplay and content has hardly changed from its predecessor, then we'll talk again.

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[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]I'm very much failing to understand what you're attempting to accomplish here?Lilac_Benjie

I fail to understand why cows are hyping a flop game like Killzone. Nothing has changed, Killzone is still all flash with no substance. This thread proves that fact.

This is possibly the worst example of logical "proof" I've ever seen.

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#17 white_sox
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joke thread?
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#18 GKinnel
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Yea, n he put up a KZ1 pic n I guess for some reason or another, it looks like the new one to him... I dunno either.
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Yea, n he put up a KZ1 pic n I guess for some reason or another, it looks like the new one to him... I dunno either.GKinnel

KZ1 looked great for a PS2 game too.

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Yeah. People seem to have have forgotten how much positive hype the original was getting.

Even the demo I played was great. I played it more then anything at the time and was totally addicted to it. But the game was only fun as a demo.

As a whole game all the flaws that you could forgive in a demo were still there and magnified times ten.

So I really have my reservations for this one.

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#21 5th_element
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Killzone 2 will be a good game and the only cows Have !!!

it certainly deserves the HYPE!

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#22 WeeWeeJumbo
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This thread is full of negative energy. Why not hype WiiFit instead, Benjie? More Yang, less Yin, go-go-go.
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#23 lilboy561
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thank you just hype killzone 2 now more people can know how great the ps3 software lineupis and how great killzone ps3 is thank you very much

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#24 DA_B0MB
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This was a lame attempt at a connection.
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exept this time its good :D
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#26 Star67
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so you have played the game?
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You haven't proved anything at all. You know nothing about KZ2, aside from you saw from a 1-minute trailer.

This isn't even worth my time.
Teufelhuhn

Amen, Brother.

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THE DAMAGE CONTROL IS GETTING UNBEARABLE!
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#29 Oligarchy_USA
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The logic of the OP is the most logical thing I've ever read.
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#30 hobbit93
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killzone2 will get no more than an 8.5 if the reviewer is in a good mood
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#31 PoppaLemming
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WOW... there's some sensitive posters in this thread. I will play Killzonme 2, yet the game seems like it doesn't have any substance. Yeah we have to wait and see the finished product, but as of right now there's nothing spectacular about this game but visuals

Hopefully it will pan out but we've been down this road with plenty of games and from the most part if Pt 1 sucks, P2 won't be groundbreaking

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#32 jessesalinas
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Lilac_Benjie is right..;)

the first Killzone was a complete Failure..6.9

what even makes you think Killzone 2 will be AAA?

as usual most of you cows are just setting yourself up for Ownage..

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#33 PoppaLemming
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Yeah. People seem to have have forgotten how much positive hype the original was getting.

Even the demo I played was great. I played it more then anything at the time and was totally addicted to it. But the game was only fun as a demo.

As a whole game all the flaws that you could forgive in a demo were still there and magnified times ten.

So I really have my reservations for this one.

Gaara79

But it's damage control if you see the flaws right? :roll:

Most of the posters screamin that are 13 year old cows. Most mature posters can see that this game as of right now is nothing to awe about

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Lilac_Benjie is right..;)

the first Killzone was a complete Failure..6.9

what even makes you think Killzone 2 will be AAA?

as usual most of you cows are just setting yourself up for Ownage..

jessesalinas

So ur saying a sequal can't score higher then pass gms?

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#35 gromit007
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Wow, putting quotes from Gamespot about how underwhelming KZ2 is sure stirs it up a bit. It will flop, its just too bad we have to wait so long for it.
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#36 TekkenMaster606
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You should just go back to talking about sales. Because sheep actually bashing another systems games is the most hilarious thing I have ever heard.

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#37 TekkenMaster606
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[QUOTE="jessesalinas"]

Lilac_Benjie is right..;)

the first Killzone was a complete Failure..6.9

what even makes you think Killzone 2 will be AAA?

as usual most of you cows are just setting yourself up for Ownage..

jujutheking

So ur saying a sequal can't score higher then pass gms?

Go look up Age of Empires and Dead or Alive here at Gamespot. "But, but, teh Gamerankings!" Someone will say that, for sure.

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#38 Hoshslatz
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The first Killzone was said to be a Halo killer, bus as far as i no, no one has said anything about this being a Halo killer. As for what u consider a halo killer, well thats up to gameplay. When u talk in terms of a Halo killer u basically r talking about the fanbase of the franchise. There are plenty of better shooters than halo, but the fanbase is so large and that is what is the hard part of being a "halo killer"

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#39 no_submission
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Same Mario.....
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Ok, pretty new to this gen. Had xbox (original) and PS1 before that. Always waited till one console just grabbed my attention. This gen difficult. I really can't decide. 360 has alot of good games and the achievement system is great, my mate shwed me how it works, and i think its cool. So i nearly bought one as the PS3 doesn't have one. Until they mentioned home. Does anyone know how the trophies will work? and will we get them for all games? Then i saw demo's for heavenly sword, and the lead charactor looks amazing. Almost real. Then I saw "the Agency" MMO, again - sweeet. Halo 3 looks like Halo 2 with extra shiny bits. But Ace combat 6 is coming out on 360 first. But then, Unreal is optimised for PS3. A major factor is i saw transfomers yesterday, and love it. best film ever, took me right back to my childhood. Beats superman returns for movie remakes. So If transformers comes to blu ray, then i will bow before sony, if its to hd dvd, then maybe microsoft. I understand blu ray better for films, but not much advantage for games because of read speed apparently. And the killzone trailer looks awsome. So i would appreciate info on trophies vs achievments, Sony online vs live and blu ray vs hddvd. Then hopefully come friday, i'll be walking into game with 100% certainty of which i want to purchase. And is PS3 and PSP connectivity good? I loved original MGS, but also loved original forza. And red ring of death is quite a worrying topic, even with the 3year warranty. Help me guys!
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#41 haziqonfire
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Any Sequal has an opportunity to do better than the original -- KZ2 might be better slightly, might be the same, or might be a whole lot better -- at this point, no one knows.

But with a Huge dev team and a big budget -- it has a chance of being a very good game.

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#42 OpticalCanine
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KZ2 is being hyped for graphics, ppl are making sigs and bannars.... just like last time :(. not a good thing let me tell u. Cows need to realise there is more to a game then graphics. u woulda thought KZ1 and Motorstorm woulda told them that but theyre obviously blind fanboys.
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MotorstormOpticalCanine

Since when was Motorstorm a terrible game? I know it flopped and all but really. It's not like it's freaking Hour of Victory.

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[QUOTE="OpticalCanine"]MotorstormTekkenMaster606

Since when was Motorstorm a terrible game? I know it flopped and all but really. It's not like it's freaking Hour of Victory.

Motorstorm reminds me of the first Burnout. If you know what I mean.

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#45 CyanX73
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Wow TC, I never saw someone go to such a length to support a failed line of reasoning. The game is a shooter, so in that regard it will be similiar the original Killzone. The gameplay and bugs were the main issues with the first one. Unless Guerilla is incapable of fixing these bugs, which you or I don't know because the game isn't out yet :P, then this version will not be the same.

On a final note why are anti-Sony people so worried about Killzone? If the first one was so bad to you and you think this one will be too, then don't buy it. Don't read about it. That simple :).

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#46 CyanX73
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But with a Huge dev team and a big budget -- it has a chance of being a very good game.

Haziqonfire

Not according to Lems. Granted, some people think Killzone is a lock for AAA and some think it has a chance. I'm with you on this. I think the game has a good chance to be good and as a PS3 owner, I'm curious what this kind of budget and time can do for a game. The way some people on here act you'd swear no series has ever gotten better over time.

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#47 haziqonfire
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On a final note why are anti-Sony people so worried about Killzone? If the first one was so bad to you and you think this one will be too, then don't buy it. Don't read about it. That simple :).

CyanX73

thats how fanbois are -- their more concerned about games for systems they dislike, or games they dislike, than playing their own games.

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#48 CyanX73
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killzone2 will get no more than an 8.5 if the reviewer is in a good moodhobbit93

Wow, can I borrow that crystal ball you have?

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#49 CyanX73
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thats how fanbois are -- their more concerned about games for systems they dislike, or games they dislike, than playing their own games.

Haziqonfire

With so many "great games" coming to 360 and them about to have the "best lineup" of the year, it's amazing they are so fixated on a PS3 game. Would it be the end of their world if this game did good and PS3 had a good lineup of great games?

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#50 CyanX73
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[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]I'm very much failing to understand what you're attempting to accomplish here?Lilac_Benjie

I fail to understand why cows are hyping a flop game like Killzone. Nothing has changed, Killzone is still all flash with no substance. This thread proves that fact.

All flash? Killzone was never "all flash." The first one was hideous, buggy, and had other problems thus it's fair to good score on most sites. Now I know you're just posting about something you know nothing about.