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#51 bigblunt537
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This guy is 100% correct. nintendo has nothinf on Sony. Sony actually creates new IP's other than work out games.

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#52 Hexagon_777
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[QUOTE="sexy_robot_man"]

[QUOTE="tonitorsi"]

Both, Sony & Nintendo have excellent 1st party devs. Something MS dreams of having . . . .

*watches carefully*

tonitorsi

Halo and Gears could not hear you over the laughter :lol: Halo has become more recognizable than Mario to an entire generation of gamers so please feel free to try again.

And also, sig worthy. :lol:

I second this. :P

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#53 DeadEndPanda
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[QUOTE="sexy_robot_man"]

[QUOTE="tonitorsi"]

Both, Sony & Nintendo have excellent 1st party devs. Something MS dreams of having . . . .

*watches carefully*

ShuichiChamp24

Halo and Gears could not hear you over the laughter :lol: Halo has become more recognizable than Mario to an entire generation of gamers so please feel free to try again.

Maybe it's just me but, I doubt Halo is more recognizable than Mario.

its true, all those 12 year olds on xbox live who started gaming in 2001 recognize master cief but not mario

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#54 DeadEndPanda
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[QUOTE="abodaghee"]

Motorstorm 1st Party

FolkLore 3rd Party

Resistance 2nd Party

Uncharted 1st Party

Heavenly Sword 3rd Party

Eye of Judgement 1st Party

LittleBigPlanet 2nd Party

inFamous 2nd Party

Heavy Rain 3rd Party

WhiteKnight Chronicles 3rd Party

ModNationRacers 3rd Party

MAG 1st Party

Demon's Soul's 3rd Party

Nonstop-Madness

thank you, unlike sony. nintendo actully has good 1st pary games

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#55 HarlockJC
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This guy is 100% correct. nintendo has nothinf on Sony. Sony actually creates new IP's other than work out games.

bigblunt537

Most Nintendo fans don't want new IPs. We want sequels based on the IPs we grew up playing. I would rather have something I know and love over something I may not.

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#56 Hexagon_777
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[QUOTE="sexy_robot_man"]Halo and Gears could not hear you over the laughter :lol: Halo has become more recognizable than Mario to an entire generation of gamers so please feel free to try again.IronBass
Ehm... No, not even close.

I thought this would be evident.

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#57 bigblunt537
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[QUOTE="bigblunt537"]

This guy is 100% correct. nintendo has nothinf on Sony. Sony actually creates new IP's other than work out games.

HarlockJC

Most Nintendo fans don't want new IPs. We want sequels based on the IPs we grew up playing. I would rather have something I know and love over something I may not.

And that's fine, but why does Peach always get captured? Why not a new story? Maybe the Kingdom was taken over by Bowser and he plans on destroying the world and Mario needs the help of all the stars to stop him and his friend involving all the other characters. I'm tired of saving peach.

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[QUOTE="Nonstop-Madness"]

[QUOTE="abodaghee"]

Motorstorm 1st Party

FolkLore 3rd Party

Resistance 2nd Party

Uncharted 1st Party

Heavenly Sword 3rd Party

Eye of Judgement 1st Party

LittleBigPlanet 2nd Party

inFamous 2nd Party

Heavy Rain 3rd Party

WhiteKnight Chronicles 3rd Party

ModNationRacers 3rd Party

MAG 1st Party

Demon's Soul's 3rd Party

DeadEndPanda

thank you, unlike sony. nintendo actully has good 1st pary games

He was only talking about new IP's, in that case Nintendo has like none. Sony constantly makes amazing new IP's, where its 1st or 2nd Party.
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#59 ermacness
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[QUOTE="tonitorsi"]

[QUOTE="sexy_robot_man"]The mistake the TC made was saying "In the industry" which will pull in everybody. Nintendo alone would destroy this list if we were just talking about first party console develepors however he said "in the industry"

sexy_robot_man

Both, Sony & Nintendo have excellent 1st party devs. Something MS dreams of having . . . .

*watches carefully*

Halo and Gears could not hear you over the laughter :lol: Halo has become more recognizable than Mario to an entire generation of gamers so please feel free to try again.

and i couldn't hear you through my laughter:lol: If gears was a 1st party title, then why am i able to play it on the PC?:lol: Fission Mailed:lol:

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#60 ermacness
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[QUOTE="Nonstop-Madness"]

[QUOTE="abodaghee"]

Motorstorm 1st Party

FolkLore 3rd Party

Resistance 2nd Party

Uncharted 1st Party

Heavenly Sword 3rd Party

Eye of Judgement 1st Party

LittleBigPlanet 2nd Party

inFamous 2nd Party

Heavy Rain 3rd Party

WhiteKnight Chronicles 3rd Party

ModNationRacers 3rd Party

MAG 1st Party

Demon's Soul's 3rd Party

DeadEndPanda

thank you, unlike sony. nintendo actully has good 1st pary games

the only 1st party game that have kept it's charm from last gen was Mario. Both Metroid and Zelda have loss some of their appeal from last gen

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#62 HarlockJC
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[QUOTE="HarlockJC"]

[QUOTE="bigblunt537"]

This guy is 100% correct. nintendo has nothinf on Sony. Sony actually creates new IP's other than work out games.

bigblunt537

Most Nintendo fans don't want new IPs. We want sequels based on the IPs we grew up playing. I would rather have something I know and love over something I may not.

And that's fine, but why does Peach always get captured? Why not a new story? Maybe the Kingdom was taken over by Bowser and he plans on destroying the world and Mario needs the help of all the stars to stop him and his friend involving all the other characters. I'm tired of saving peach.

You play Mario games for the story?

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#63 njean777
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Oh brother :roll: This one is just to easy to even bother. I am glad you love your PS3. I am also happy you are very excited about the titles out for it and some that are not out yet on your list, so how do we know they are any good? Whatever, the point is this thread will be destroyed by any number of posters putting up far superior developers with relative ease. I am going to leave on this note.

"Blizzard"

sexy_robot_man

Blizzard is good but i dont like that they keep putting out rehash after rehash I WANTS A NEW IP FFS. Anyways yes scea is a very good developer but, i do not have a favorite developer.

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[QUOTE="Nonstop-Madness"]

[QUOTE="abodaghee"]

Motorstorm 1st Party

FolkLore 3rd Party

Resistance 2nd Party

Uncharted 1st Party

Heavenly Sword 3rd Party

Eye of Judgement 1st Party

LittleBigPlanet 2nd Party

inFamous 2nd Party

Heavy Rain 3rd Party

WhiteKnight Chronicles 3rd Party

ModNationRacers 3rd Party

MAG 1st Party

Demon's Soul's 3rd Party

DeadEndPanda

thank you, unlike sony. nintendo actully has good 1st pary games

great why dont you list us some new ip, god knows you cant rinse mario, zelda and metroid to death. oh wait you can!! kudos nintendo you can climax on a cupcake and convince your delusional fanbase its icing.

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#65 bigblunt537
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[QUOTE="bigblunt537"]

[QUOTE="HarlockJC"] Most Nintendo fans don't want new IPs. We want sequels based on the IPs we grew up playing. I would rather have something I know and love over something I may not.

HarlockJC

And that's fine, but why does Peach always get captured? Why not a new story? Maybe the Kingdom was taken over by Bowser and he plans on destroying the world and Mario needs the help of all the stars to stop him and his friend involving all the other characters. I'm tired of saving peach.

You play Mario games for the story?

Well why not include a different story with the same gameplay? I'm surprised I said all that and you came back with a 1 sentence question:roll:. all I'm saying is a Mario with a little more depth and the ability to use like 3-4 different characters to beat the main quest would be epic. Mario hasn't changed in like 15 years. Mario sunshine was a bit different though and I commend Nintendo for trying something new.

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Well why not include a different story with the same gameplay? I'm surprised I said all that and you came back with a 1 sentence question:roll:. all I'm saying is a Mario with a little more depth and the ability to use like 3-4 different characters to beat the main quest would be epic. Mario hasn't changed in like 15 years. Mario sunshine was a bit different though and I commend Nintendo for trying something new.

bigblunt537

SMG was almost too big to fit on the DVD. There would not be space to add more charters and it really does not need it with all the forms of Mario you can play with in the game. Has for the story Miyamoto is not a huge fan of stories in his games. Most stories added in his games are added by other people which worked on the game. I remember reading something awhile back where the person interviewed was laughing because he kept having to go back and add in stories to Miyamoto Zelda games. Miyamoto cares only in gameplay.

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#67 sexy_robot_man
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[QUOTE="sexy_robot_man"]

[QUOTE="tonitorsi"]

Both, Sony & Nintendo have excellent 1st party devs. Something MS dreams of having . . . .

*watches carefully*

tonitorsi

Halo and Gears could not hear you over the laughter :lol: Halo has become more recognizable than Mario to an entire generation of gamers so please feel free to try again.

And also, sig worthy. :lol:

I agree because it's the truth.

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[QUOTE="bigblunt537"]

Well why not include a different story with the same gameplay? I'm surprised I said all that and you came back with a 1 sentence question:roll:. all I'm saying is a Mario with a little more depth and the ability to use like 3-4 different characters to beat the main quest would be epic. Mario hasn't changed in like 15 years. Mario sunshine was a bit different though and I commend Nintendo for trying something new.

HarlockJC

SMG was almost too big to fit on the DVD. There would not be space to add more charters and it really does not need it with all the forms of Mario you can play with in the game. Has for the story Miyamoto is not a huge fan of stories in his games. Most stories added in his games are added by other people which worked on the game. I remember reading something awhile back where the person interviewed was laughing because he kept having to go back and add in stories to Miyamoto Zelda games. Miyamoto cares only in gameplay.

Well fine scrap the story aspect, but why not set up a new scenario? If he can't do this then he's the most unimaginative and lweast creative developer in the industry... Also Luigi hasn't been used in a game in years. Why not create a Luigi game? or a game utilizing both Mario and Luigi in 3d? Argh screw Nintendo I give up.

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Well fine scrap the story aspect, but why not set up a new scenario? If he can't do this then he's the most unimaginative and lweast creative developer in the industry... Also Luigi hasn't been used in a game in years. Why not create a Luigi game? or a game utilizing both Mario and Luigi in 3d? Argh screw Nintendo I give up.

bigblunt537

There is a Luigi game and then Luigi is playable in SMG. Then in SM64 you can play has him, Mario, Wario or Yoshi. You should really play the games before you talk bad about them.

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#70 Yandere
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In your opinion, not mine.

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[QUOTE="bigblunt537"]

Well fine scrap the story aspect, but why not set up a new scenario? If he can't do this then he's the most unimaginative and lweast creative developer in the industry... Also Luigi hasn't been used in a game in years. Why not create a Luigi game? or a game utilizing both Mario and Luigi in 3d? Argh screw Nintendo I give up.

HarlockJC

There is a Luigi game and then Luigi is playable in SMG. Then in SM64 you can play has him, Mario, Wario or Yoshi. You should really play the games before you talk bad about them.

SM64 or Super Mariio 64 ds version? 2 different games. Super Mario Galaxy I didn't get to far in it, but I did play it for a week before I sold it because it bored the **** out of me. If you'd like I can send a pic of my save data file... I've also purchased every Mario title since N64 times and I used to own like 3-4 of them on the snes. So don't make assumptions without knowing.

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What Sony first party studios have done so far for the PS3 - (this isn't considering PS2 , PSP , and small PSN games)

  • Incognito - Warhawk
  • Sony San Diego - MLB The Show series , NBA series
  • Naughty Dog - Uncharted Drake's Fortune
  • Polyphony Digital - GT5 Prologue
  • Guerrilla Games - Killzone 2
  • Evolution Studios - Motorstorm Pacific Rift
  • Liverpool Studio- Formula 1 , Wipeout HD
  • Japan (Team Siren) - Siren Blood Curse
  • Sony London - Singstar games, Eye of Judgement (i think?)
  • Clap Hanz - Hot Shots Golf Out of Bounds

Upcoming (confirmed at this time) -

  • Naughty Dog - Uncharted 2
  • Sony Santa Monica - God of War III
  • Zipper - MAG
  • Polyphony - Gran Turismo 5
  • Team ICO - The Last Guardian

More to come.

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#73 Stats_
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[QUOTE="sexy_robot_man"]

[QUOTE="tonitorsi"]

Both, Sony & Nintendo have excellent 1st party devs. Something MS dreams of having . . . .

*watches carefully*

ermacness

Halo and Gears could not hear you over the laughter :lol: Halo has become more recognizable than Mario to an entire generation of gamers so please feel free to try again.

and i couldn't hear you through my laughter:lol: If gears was a 1st party title, then why am i able to play it on the PC?:lol: Fission Mailed:lol:

Now i'm laughing. Viva Pinata is a first party title and can be played on PC and DS. Fission has indeed mailed, except ... for you.

Appearing on more then one console has no effect on wether or not it;s first party.

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#74 farnham
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has sony made a 10 million + new IP the last 5 years..?

i dont think so.. Nintendo made five of em.. (brainage, nintendogs, wii sports, wii fit, wii play) go figure

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#75 farnham
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[QUOTE="tonitorsi"]

[QUOTE="sexy_robot_man"]The mistake the TC made was saying "In the industry" which will pull in everybody. Nintendo alone would destroy this list if we were just talking about first party console develepors however he said "in the industry"

sexy_robot_man

Both, Sony & Nintendo have excellent 1st party devs. Something MS dreams of having . . . .

*watches carefully*

Halo and Gears could not hear you over the laughter :lol: Halo has become more recognizable than Mario to an entire generation of gamers so please feel free to try again.

thats just untrue.. new mario bros alone outsold halo 2 and halo 3 combined
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What Sony first party studios have done so far for the PS3 - (this isn't considering PS2 , PSP , and small PSN games)

  • Incognito - Warhawk
  • Sony San Diego - MLB The Show series , NBA series
  • Naughty Dog - Uncharted Drake's Fortune
  • Polyphony Digital - GT5 Prologue
  • Guerrilla Games - Killzone 2
  • Evolution Studios - Motorstorm Pacific Rift
  • Liverpool Studio- Formula 1 , Wipeout HD
  • Japan (Team Siren) - Siren Blood Curse
  • Sony London - Singstar games, Eye of Judgement (i think?)
  • Clap Hanz - Hot Shots Golf Out of Bounds

Upcoming (confirmed at this time) -

  • Naughty Dog - Uncharted 2
  • Sony Santa Monica - God of War III
  • Zipper - MAG
  • Polyphony - Gran Turismo 5
  • Team ICO - The Last Guardian

More to come.

Nike_Air
you can't include sequels because they aren't new IPs anymore. Even the Last Guardian is a prequel to an EXISTING franchise. You are forgetting that I said SONY COMPUTER ENTERTAINMENT. I don't care about 1st,2nd,3rd parties. I'm talking about games that are NEW IPs for the Playstation brand THIS gen made by SCE. If the SCE insignia is on the BOX, then it's a SONY game, developed by X studio. As I expected, there isn't much of a list for any other Company with regards to NEW IPs. Sony really does have the MOST new OIPs this gen in the entire Industry.
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#77 abodaghee
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Just as I expected, no one has anything to say other than, Mario, or Master Chief.

SCE has the Most NEW OIPs this Gen, yet everyone still says there are no games on Playstation.

And for the People who say they want to play existing Franchises on the Wii, they should be Called Cows, because they are the ones who are truly getting Milked for their Franchies.

SCE is the Best in the Industry with the highest Average Metacritic rating. They simply can't be outdone.

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Just as I expected, no one has anything to say other than, Mario, or Master Chief.

SCE has the Most NEW OIPs this Gen, yet everyone still says there are no games on Playstation.

And for the People who say they want to play existing Franchises on the Wii, they should be Called Cows, because they are the ones who are truly getting Milked for their Franchies.

SCE is the Best in the Industry with the highest Average Metacritic rating. They simply can't be outdone.

abodaghee
why are you completely ignoring what i said.. wii sports, wii play, wii fit, wii music, nintendogs, brain age... there are a lot of new IPs Nintendo put out.. and guess what wii sports alone outsold every new IP Sony put out the last 5 years
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#79 farnham
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[QUOTE="bigblunt537"]

This guy is 100% correct. nintendo has nothinf on Sony. Sony actually creates new IP's other than work out games.

HarlockJC

Most Nintendo fans don't want new IPs. We want sequels based on the IPs we grew up playing. I would rather have something I know and love over something I may not.

hey the best selling game on the DS is nintendogs by far and the best selling game on the Wii is Wii sports.. how ar ethose old ips..?
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Some of those games are from independent developers, like Heavenly Sword and Resistance.
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Some of those games are from independent developers, like Heavenly Sword and Resistance. themyth01
well ninja theory is (they are actually with namco bandai now) but insomniac is pretty much sony first party
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#82 bigblunt537
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[QUOTE="HarlockJC"]

[QUOTE="bigblunt537"]

This guy is 100% correct. nintendo has nothinf on Sony. Sony actually creates new IP's other than work out games.

farnham

Most Nintendo fans don't want new IPs. We want sequels based on the IPs we grew up playing. I would rather have something I know and love over something I may not.

hey the best selling game on the DS is nintendogs by far and the best selling game on the Wii is Wii sports.. how ar ethose old ips..?

How about IP's that gamers want rather than people that rarely play games? My step grandma bought a wii and she hasn't purchased a console since Atari for her son(Step dad) like 30 years ago.

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[QUOTE="themyth01"] Some of those games are from independent developers, like Heavenly Sword and Resistance. farnham
well ninja theory is (they are actually with namco bandai now) but insomniac is pretty much sony first party

Read the first sentence on their website: http://www.insomniacgames.com/
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&[QUOTE="HarlockJC"][QUOTE="abodaghee"] I count any GameBox with the name Microsoft Game Studios on it. Viva PInata counts and so does Scene it.abodaghee

Viva PInata counts because it's made by Rare. If your going to count gears then you have to count Mass Effect and Lost Odyssey which are much better games than most that list. Then again counting them is just seems incorrect.

Like I said, I count those type of games! But they have to be NEW. LO and BD count because they are new JRPGS. My point is that Sony has the best and MOST NEW IPs this GEN. I counted 9 for Microsoft and like 10 for Nintendo. Sony is 30+ this gen. EA is like 3+. and Activision is like 6+. Not as impressive as Sony.

You counting Consoles or both Consoles and handhelds because if you counted Handhelds Nintendo would destroy Sony in new IPs because the DS has 41 New IPs so far the DSi has 3 new IPs so far from Nintendo (I'm talking about announced as they only released one on the DSiware so far.) Wii has 14 New IPs announced and in developement including owns that released already this gen.)

The only difference is most of the DS New IPs from Nintendo are Japan Only.

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#85 ActicEdge
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I disagree for a multitude of reasons.

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#86 ogvampire
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[QUOTE="farnham"][QUOTE="HarlockJC"] Most Nintendo fans don't want new IPs. We want sequels based on the IPs we grew up playing. I would rather have something I know and love over something I may not.

bigblunt537

hey the best selling game on the DS is nintendogs by far and the best selling game on the Wii is Wii sports.. how ar ethose old ips..?

How about IP's that gamers want rather than people that rarely play games? My step grandma bought a wii and she hasn't purchased a console since Atari for her son(Step dad) like 30 years ago.

gaming is expanding.... you make it seem like its a bad thing :|

also, a game is a game... just because you dont like it doesnt mean it doesnt count

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#87 farnham
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[QUOTE="farnham"][QUOTE="themyth01"] Some of those games are from independent developers, like Heavenly Sword and Resistance. themyth01
well ninja theory is (they are actually with namco bandai now) but insomniac is pretty much sony first party

Read the first sentence on their website: http://www.insomniacgames.com/

thats why i said pretty much they say they are not first party but is there any imsomniac game that is not published by SCE..? i think not
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#88 themyth01
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[QUOTE="farnham"][QUOTE="themyth01"][QUOTE="farnham"] well ninja theory is (they are actually with namco bandai now) but insomniac is pretty much sony first party

Read the first sentence on their website: http://www.insomniacgames.com/

thats why i said pretty much they say they are not first party but is there any imsomniac game that is not published by SCE..? i think not

That still doesn't make them first-party. Business relations are thin, it's not the same thing as having a wholly owned subsidiary.
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#89 bigblunt537
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[QUOTE="bigblunt537"]

[QUOTE="farnham"] hey the best selling game on the DS is nintendogs by far and the best selling game on the Wii is Wii sports.. how ar ethose old ips..?ogvampire

How about IP's that gamers want rather than people that rarely play games? My step grandma bought a wii and she hasn't purchased a console since Atari for her son(Step dad) like 30 years ago.

gaming is expanding.... you make it seem like its a bad thing :|

also, a game is a game... just because you dont like it doesnt mean it doesnt count

I don't see it as a bad thing, but him trying to make it sound as if Wii sports and Nintendogs are the new best titles around based on sales is a bit pushing it. Sales have nothing to do with how great an IP is. Sony's line up is still better since they don't milk the same titles a million times.

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#90 ogvampire
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[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

[QUOTE="bigblunt537"]

How about IP's that gamers want rather than people that rarely play games? My step grandma bought a wii and she hasn't purchased a console since Atari for her son(Step dad) like 30 years ago.

bigblunt537

gaming is expanding.... you make it seem like its a bad thing :|

also, a game is a game... just because you dont like it doesnt mean it doesnt count

I don't see it as a bad thing, but him trying to make it sound as if Wii sports and Nintendogs are the new best titles around based on sales is a bit pushing it. Sales have nothing to do with how great an IP is. Sony's line up is still better since they don't milk the same titles a million times.

im confused by this whole 'milking' thing... Most of nintendo's franchises are AAA.... whats bad about AAA sequels to AAA franchises?

i think that whole 'milking' complaint is silly and not very thought out...

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#91 Nintendo_Ownes7
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[QUOTE="bigblunt537"]

[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

gaming is expanding.... you make it seem like its a bad thing :|

also, a game is a game... just because you dont like it doesnt mean it doesnt count

ogvampire

I don't see it as a bad thing, but him trying to make it sound as if Wii sports and Nintendogs are the new best titles around based on sales is a bit pushing it. Sales have nothing to do with how great an IP is. Sony's line up is still better since they don't milk the same titles a million times.

im confused by this whole 'milking' thing... Most of nintendo's franchises are AAA.... whats bad about AAA sequels to AAA franchises?

i think that whole 'milking' complaint is silly and not very thought out...

I agree if they were contantly getting bad scores or the scores kept getting worse with each entry in the series then it would be Milking.

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#92 ogvampire
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[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

[QUOTE="bigblunt537"]

I don't see it as a bad thing, but him trying to make it sound as if Wii sports and Nintendogs are the new best titles around based on sales is a bit pushing it. Sales have nothing to do with how great an IP is. Sony's line up is still better since they don't milk the same titles a million times.

Nintendo_Ownes7

im confused by this whole 'milking' thing... Most of nintendo's franchises are AAA.... whats bad about AAA sequels to AAA franchises?

i think that whole 'milking' complaint is silly and not very thought out...

I agree if they were contantly getting bad scores or the scores kept getting worse with each entry in the series then it would be Milking.

exactly

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#93 treedoor
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#1 in the industry?

Come back when you get a bunch of game of the year games, or when some of your games are considered by the majority as the best game ever.

#1 in the industry belongs to Nintendo. I don't even support their console, and I know it's true. Just look at their track record and you can see they are top dog.

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#94 farnham
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[QUOTE="farnham"][QUOTE="HarlockJC"] Most Nintendo fans don't want new IPs. We want sequels based on the IPs we grew up playing. I would rather have something I know and love over something I may not.

bigblunt537

hey the best selling game on the DS is nintendogs by far and the best selling game on the Wii is Wii sports.. how ar ethose old ips..?

How about IP's that gamers want rather than people that rarely play games? My step grandma bought a wii and she hasn't purchased a console since Atari for her son(Step dad) like 30 years ago.

okay... so your step grandma has no right to play games because she is not hardcore enough..?
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There are one of the best first party studios but the best in the industries.

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Black Isle Studios....That is all.

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Is dead unfortunately...and has been since 2003 because of interplay(now most went to Obsidian)...rip black isle, troika, looking glass..yes I was a hermit, unfortuantly my gaming rig gets little use in gaming....And Sony devs are the most varied devs this gen. They seen the 3rd party exclusive dying before it did...got to give them credit for that.
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#97 Zaibach
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#1 in the industry?

Come back when you get a bunch of game of the year games, or when some of your games are considered by the majority as the best game ever.

#1 in the industry belongs to Nintendo. I don't even support their console, and I know it's true. Just look at their track record and you can see they are top dog.

treedoor

IF youre a fan of regurgitations. you may have been right in the n64 days but those days when ninty made games for gamers are long gone

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#98 djsifer01
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Sony has the Best First Party Developers, that should be obvious to everyone.
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#99 Mr_Apple_Soup
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Now imagine if we could include Insomniac into the discussion. Scary thoughts

SCE is very stacked with quality devs

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#1 in the industry?

Come back when you get a bunch of game of the year games, or when some of your games are considered by the majority as the best game ever.

#1 in the industry belongs to Nintendo. I don't even support their console, and I know it's true. Just look at their track record and you can see they are top dog.

treedoor

Zelda, mario, zelda, mario... You don't think that game designers need creativity?