Sega Genesis is *debatebly* the most fun system ever

[QUOTE="austin_is_god"]

[QUOTE="zekere"]The SNES totally destroyed the Megadrive . It had better sound , graphics and games . HuusAsking

Yes I just love the echoy, tinny sound of the "superior" SFC sound chip :roll: The SFC chip was crap for sound effects, especially the farty sounding explosions and lightning sounds in games such as Chou Makai Mura and Super Aleste. Show me ANY SFC game as impressive looking OR sounding as Bare Knuckle II, Gunstar Heroes and Monster World IV, then we can talk. Try putting any SFC scrolling fighter up against the Bare Knuckle games, including the first one, what a goddamn joke. Same goes for shumps. I will say it again, the SFC was ONLY good at RPGs and slow, boring Mario-esque platformers because it had a S*** 8-BIT processor. All the colour and crappy mode-7 in the world could not help the system with that processor.

And Gradius III was an awful port, plagued with slowdown and removed content, like it was the SNES custom.

[QUOTE="BubbyJello"][QUOTE="st1ka"]

[QUOTE="Rahnyc4"]maybe when he said full 3d on the snes, he meant this.... austin_is_god

the backgrounds are in 2D, as for the rest it seems as 3D as virtua racer and starfox, what game is that anyway?

It's Vortex.

And when I said fully 3D, I didn't mean the backgrounds. I just thought that Virtua Racing's ground, and trees were 2D. I thought the ground was like Mode 7 style.

Ahhh, Virtua Racing MD was FULLY 3D and far more impressive than that overhyped POS Star Fox. My god, I will never understand the hype for that game, it was rubbish! Same goes for the Donkey Kong games, ugh.

Almost all of the SHMUPS on the SNES were slow and boring. Axelay doesn't rate up to anythng on the Mega Drive. Musha ALESTE alone kicks the **** out of everything the SNES had in terms of SHMUPS.

And Gradius III was an awful port, plagued with slowdown and removed content, like it was the SNES custom.

Panzer_Zwei

[QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"]

Almost all of the SHMUPS on the SNES were slow and boring. Axelay doesn't rate up to anythng on the Mega Drive. Musha ALESTE alone kicks the **** out of everything the SNES had in terms of SHMUPS.

And Gradius III was an awful port, plagued with slowdown and removed content, like it was the SNES custom.

HuusAsking

But don't take my word for it. The best SHMUP makes of all time, all of them placed their games specially on SEGA systems. The Mega Drive and Saturn. That speaks for itself. There's no comparison at all.

The SNES still edges out Genesis imo.

1. Chrono Trigger

2. Super Mario Kart

3. Super Mario World

4. Yoshi's Island

5. Super Mario RPG

6. Super Castlevania IV

7. ActRaiser

8. Secret of Mana

9. F-Zero

10. PilotWings

11. Final Fantasy IV, VI

12. Super Star Wars

13. Super Ghouls N Ghosts

14. Mega Man X, X2, X3

15. Axelay

16. Gradius III

17. Contra III

18. Zelda: A Link to the Past

19. Super Metroid

20. Earthbound

Also, SNES had far superior sound and better graphics. ActRaiser and Super Castlevania IV sound leagues better than any Genesis game. Also, imo the SNES controller was better.

AvIdGaMeR444

TMNT: Turtles in Time

Street Fighter 2: CE

Donkey Kong Country

Donkey Kong Country 2

Super R-Type

Super Metroid

STAR FOX

Gradius 3

?

Oh and your nuts for listing A Link To the Past @ 18, no Super Metroid, no StarFox and no DKC. Nuts.

[QUOTE="HuusAsking"][QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"]

Almost all of the SHMUPS on the SNES were slow and boring. Axelay doesn't rate up to anythng on the Mega Drive. Musha ALESTE alone kicks the **** out of everything the SNES had in terms of SHMUPS.

And Gradius III was an awful port, plagued with slowdown and removed content, like it was the SNES custom.

Panzer_Zwei

But don't take my word for it. The best SHMUP makes of all time, all of them placed their games specially on SEGA systems. The Mega Drive and Saturn. That speaks for itself. There's no comparison at all.

[QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"][QUOTE="HuusAsking"][QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"]

Almost all of the SHMUPS on the SNES were slow and boring. Axelay doesn't rate up to anythng on the Mega Drive. Musha ALESTE alone kicks the **** out of everything the SNES had in terms of SHMUPS.

And Gradius III was an awful port, plagued with slowdown and removed content, like it was the SNES custom.

HuusAsking

But don't take my word for it. The best SHMUP makes of all time, all of them placed their games specially on SEGA systems. The Mega Drive and Saturn. That speaks for itself. There's no comparison at all.

Then sorry but you obviously haven't a clue about their releases:

Raizing/8ing:

• Battle Garegga
• Batsugun
• Shippu Mahou Daisakusen
• Soukyugurentai

Cave:

• DonPachi
• DoDonPachi

Plus Compile, Technosoft, Psykio Treasure, etc. All of them were on SEGA systems. Cave started making games until 1995 though. And if Seibu Kaihatsu ever made something else besides Raiden, perhaps they would have been among the elite. But aren't.

Oh yes, beyond greatness. Loved this game.

BioShockOwnz

Finally people are acknowledging this game, in my opinion its one of the most underrated games ever, seriously its fantastic.

This thread needs moar:

Ecco The Dolphin (SegaCD verison)

Hook (SegaCD version)

Eternal Champions (SegaCd version)

Sewer Shark

Lunar: The Silver Star

Double Switch

Earthworm Jim SE

SonicCD

Willie Beamish

Prize Fighter

Shining Force CD

Snatcher

Lunar 2

Final Fight CD

Dragon's Lair

.......and who will ever forget Night Trap, Ground Zero Texas, TomCat Alley, Batman Returns and many others?

This thread needs moar:

Eternal Champions (SegaCd version)

Dreams-Visions

i hated the megadrive version, but the sega cd version was pure awesomeness

Plus Compile, Technosoft, Psykio Treasure, etc. All of them were on SEGA systems. And if Seibu Kaihatsu ever made something else besides Raiden, perhaps they would have been among the elite. But aren't.

Panzer_Zwei

Have you ever tried Raiden Fighters 1, 2, and Jet? Perhaps not as graphically spectacular, but they rank right up there in sheer intensity, IMO. I think the company was on the downturn and endup up hibernating until Raiden III. Now there's Raiden IV--and for the first time in a while, it's coming to consoles (the 360).

Willie Beamish

Dreams-Visions

[QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"]

Plus Compile, Technosoft, Psykio Treasure, etc. All of them were on SEGA systems. And if Seibu Kaihatsu ever made something else besides Raiden, perhaps they would have been among the elite. But aren't.

HuusAsking

Have you ever tried Raiden Fighters 1, 2, and Jet? Perhaps not as graphically spectacular, but they rank right up there in sheer intensity, IMO. I think the company was on the downturn and endup up hibernating until Raiden III. Now there's Raiden IV--and for the first time in a while, it's coming to consoles (the 360).

Raiden IV isn't even being done by Seibu Kaihatsu anymore.

[QUOTE="FriendlyFreddy"]nobody mentioned Landstalker, wonderboy, cool spot, flashback, two cruel dudes, streets of rage? wow, nobody here then played genesis....st1ka

your right about landstalker

wonderboy most people see it as a master system game, the megadrive one was just a remake

two cruel dudes... never heard of it

streets of rage is mentioned in the second post

flashback and coolspot are multiplat, they were on the megadrive, SNES, AMIGA and the PC

The Mega Drive game was not a remake, it was the third Monster World game. "Wonderboy in Monsterland" was the first, "Wonderboy III: The Dragon's Trap" was Monster World II, the third game called "Wonderboy in Monsterworld" was "Wonderboy V, Monster World III" in Japan and Monster World IV had a female character, Ashura but was never released in English. It's a shame, it was one of the best Action RPGs ever.

[QUOTE="HuusAsking"][QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"]

Plus Compile, Technosoft, Psykio Treasure, etc. All of them were on SEGA systems. And if Seibu Kaihatsu ever made something else besides Raiden, perhaps they would have been among the elite. But aren't.

Panzer_Zwei

Have you ever tried Raiden Fighters 1, 2, and Jet? Perhaps not as graphically spectacular, but they rank right up there in sheer intensity, IMO. I think the company was on the downturn and endup up hibernating until Raiden III. Now there's Raiden IV--and for the first time in a while, it's coming to consoles (the 360).

Raiden IV isn't even being done by Seibu Kaihatsu anymore.

PS. Didn't know Cave is still a going concern. Shame 8ing ain't so interested in shooters anymore.

[QUOTE="austin_is_god"][QUOTE="BubbyJello"][QUOTE="st1ka"]

[QUOTE="Rahnyc4"]maybe when he said full 3d on the snes, he meant this.... HuusAsking

the backgrounds are in 2D, as for the rest it seems as 3D as virtua racer and starfox, what game is that anyway?

It's Vortex.

And when I said fully 3D, I didn't mean the backgrounds. I just thought that Virtua Racing's ground, and trees were 2D. I thought the ground was like Mode 7 style.

Ahhh, Virtua Racing MD was FULLY 3D and far more impressive than that overhyped POS Star Fox. My god, I will never understand the hype for that game, it was rubbish! Same goes for the Donkey Kong games, ugh.

Well let's see, Virtua Racing was an AMAZING port of the most amazing racing game ever seen in the arcades at the time which people thought could never be done on a home console so NO it was NOT. It also had 3 tracks, not one so I guess you don't know what you are talking about ne? I have played Star Fox recently, it is still a giant turd.

True, but they still hold the name. Anyway, like I said, I never heard of the other games outside arcade circles. They must've been mostly Japan-only releases, back in a time when I wasn't so interested in the matter (those were my college years--I stuck to my PC for practical reasons).HuusAsking

Taito was also another legendary Arcade dev. But it died when it was bought by Square-Enix. Sad indeed.

[QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"]

Almost all of the SHMUPS on the SNES were slow and boring. Axelay doesn't rate up to anythng on the Mega Drive. Musha ALESTE alone kicks the **** out of everything the SNES had in terms of SHMUPS.

And Gradius III was an awful port, plagued with slowdown and removed content, like it was the SNES custom.

HuusAsking

Problem is, R-Type II didn't play in slow motion like Super R-Type does. The slowdown on the SFC is a joke. R-Type III played much better but it still had to have less enemies on screen than the arcade games to maintain a decent pace. Hell, R-TYPE on the PC Engine and SMS play better than Super R-TYPE!!

Gradius III is another, it plays like crap compared to the arcade version, with a stupid amount of slowdown. I DO love Axelay though, I just got the game again yesterday actually because I stupidly sold it all those years ago. Konami were one of the onlly companies to make good use of the mode 7 hardware in the SFC.

Unless Sega Genesis had Mario Paint, it wasn't more fun than the SNES. Debate all you want, but Mario Paint gave my friends and I hours of endless fly swatting, music making, violent animation creation fun.musicalmac

i never really saw what was the big deal with mario paint, maybe its because i had always had a pc back home but that game felt more like work rather then a game

i never really saw what was the big deal with mario paint, maybe its because i had always had a pc back home but that game felt more like work rather then a game

st1ka

[QUOTE="austin_is_god"]

[QUOTE="zekere"]The SNES totally destroyed the Megadrive . It had better sound , graphics and games . HuusAsking

Yes I just love the echoy, tinny sound of the "superior" SFC sound chip :roll: The SFC chip was crap for sound effects, especially the farty sounding explosions and lightning sounds in games such as Chou Makai Mura and Super Aleste. Show me ANY SFC game as impressive looking OR sounding as Bare Knuckle II, Gunstar Heroes and Monster World IV, then we can talk. Try putting any SFC scrolling fighter up against the Bare Knuckle games, including the first one, what a goddamn joke. Same goes for shumps. I will say it again, the SFC was ONLY good at RPGs and slow, boring Mario-esque platformers because it had a S*** 8-BIT processor. All the colour and crappy mode-7 in the world could not help the system with that processor.

Super Street Fighter II was indeed on the Mega Drive. The MD game was 40-MEG, the SFC was 32-MEG. Sadly it was a rotten SFC port from Capcom who were too lazy to make the game from scratch for the MD (same goes for Saturday night Slam Masters) so it suffered in terms of graphics colour but as always it played better (and faster, faster than ST arcade) than the SFC version. The MD 6 button pad murdered that SF pad in most games, especially fighters.

I thought Super Metroid was another, typically overhyped nintendo game. It just didn't do anything for me. When I bought it a few years ago and played it again, I thought it was OK but I found it kinda boring. It has nothing on classics like Demon's Blazon from Capcom IMO.

[QUOTE="st1ka"]

i never really saw what was the big deal with mario paint, maybe its because i had always had a pc back home but that game felt more like work rather then a game

musicalmac

maybe so but still... id rather spend my 60 euro on super metroid or legend of zelda

maybe so but still... id rather spend my 60 euro on super metroid or legend of zelda

st1ka

[QUOTE="st1ka"]

maybe so but still... id rather spend my 60 euro on super metroid or legend of zelda

musicalmac

my point was, if i was going to buy a new game for the SNES a game that felt like work would be at the bottom of my list, i would just buy any other game