SF4 is the most over rated game of 2009 so far.

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#1 Squall18
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It's great, but not nearly as good as the reviews.

Anyone agree, because when me and my friends played it for 3 hours, we wanted to play Soul Calibur to get the bad taste out of our systems.

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#2 BioShockOwnz
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Disagree. SF > SC over and over again. SFIV is the best fighter in years.
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#3 Couth_
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I don't understand what the hype was behind SFIV. It's a great series, but as far as I'm concerned Tekken and SC have always been better
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#4 BioShockOwnz
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I don't understand what the hype was behind SFIV. It's a great series, but as far as I'm concerned Tekken and SC have always been betterCouth_

Tekken and SC are probably the worst fighters. VF and SF are the winners.

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#6 Filthcakes
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Care to give a reason besides just saying "I'm right, you're wrong,"?
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#7 kozzy1234
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Disagree. SF > SC over and over again. SFIV is the best fighter in years.BioShockOwnz

Best fighter since Virtual Fighter, Street Fighter 2 and Bashido Blade imo.

Im not a HUGE fighter fan anymore, compared to when i was younger, but i still think SF4 is an amazing game, a 9/10 is a perfect score for it imo.

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#8 110million
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]Disagree. SF > SC over and over again. SFIV is the best fighter in years.kozzy1234

Best fighter since Virtual Fighter, Street Fighter 2 and Bashido Blade imo.

Im not a HUGE fighter fan anymore, compared to when i was younger, but i still think SF4 is an amazing game, a 9/10 is a perfect score for it imo.

Yep, I was always pretty huge into fighters though and still am, mostly kept up with KoF, Virtua Fighter, and Guilty Gear every version, and the others a little less consistently, and SFIV is defiantly the best in a long time.
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#9 Bigboi500
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Well I don't have the game but I think you might be right. I read the review yesterday and it went on and on about the visuals and online play mostly. I don't see how a game in an almost dead genre with nothing particularly innovative to bring to the table can score a 9.0. I think the reviewer had both nostalgia and hd hype goggles on at the same time.
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#10 110million
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Well I don't have the game but I think you might be right.Bigboi500
I stopped reading. :| SFIV is not something you can see, or read about, to fully understand the changes, you have to play it.
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I don't understand what the hype was behind SFIV. It's a great series, but as far as I'm concerned Tekken and SC have always been betterCouth_
If you enjoy shallow button-mashers, then I guess you're statement might be true. :?

This is the first of the inevitable series of "SF4 is Overrated" blah blah blah, every game does through this. Apparently the TC thinks he's cool to be different! :D

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[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]Well I don't have the game but I think you might be right.110million
I stopped reading. :| SFIV is not something you can see, or read about, to fully understand the changes, you have to play it.

Care to elaborate?
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#13 Legendaryscmt
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MvC2 will still be my favorite fighter of all time, but I can't wait to get my hands on SFIV.
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#14 A_zombie
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Dead Genre? I think not. --->http://evo2k.com

Also, I really do not understand how you can play SC to get the bad taste out of your mouth. I'm a huge fighter enthusiast and after playing SCIV I it made me want to play SNK vs Capcom: SvC Chaos. :|

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#15 DealRogers
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Its all about tastes, because all those different fighting games are great but cannot compare to each other. For me SF4>SC4>SMBB>Tekken
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#16 MightyMuna
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imo,

best 2D fighter: Street Fighter and Guilty Gear

best 3D fighter: Tekken. (DoA, Soul Calibur and Virtua Fighter sucks). when I'm hitting my opponents, I feel like I'm hitting rubber, they bounce like plastic.

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#17 110million
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[QUOTE="110million"][QUOTE="Bigboi500"]Well I don't have the game but I think you might be right.Bigboi500
I stopped reading. :| SFIV is not something you can see, or read about, to fully understand the changes, you have to play it.

Care to elaborate?

The 2-button grabs help prevent mashers from having any random advantages, the focus attacks add a whole other element to the combat, watch some high level player videos, the way you can come in and out of them can turn around some matches. The revenge bar might not be innovative, but the trade off of taking damage vs dealing damage to perform a super also freshens up the game play and adds more complex strategies in the form of deciding which to go with, the TRIAL modes help teach anyone how to perform high level combos and techniques, to prevent scrubs from being with the game forever, it may take a whole for people to go through them or to see a difference, but it definatly makes it a lot easier to learn how to do the "elite" combos, the unlockables also give good reasons to practice longer on single player (again to try to prevent poor players from just spamming or not knowing how to play) and the ability to play arcade mode and allow people to challange you (through an option) while your in arcade mode, makes it an authenic "arcade experiance" as well as giving you something to do when waiting for an online match.

Again, all these might not mean much in text, but when you actually play the game and form strategies with them, it greatly improves the experiance. The fighting genre is far from dead, I play a great new fighter every few months, people are just not dedicated enough to try new fighters, so they pretend they don't exist or something.

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I've yet to play SF IV, but I really do, and to me the best fighter this gen was still DOA 4. Mock me if you will, but I just loved the speed, counter system and multi -tiered environments of DOA 4. I really think fighting games should do away with ring outs (so cheap, especially in SC IV, I hate them the most... :x ) and I love using the environment to damage my opponents and chain combos. Also, the speed was just great, and countering attacks never gets old. :D
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You want to play Soul Calibur to get the bad taste out of your systems? Maybe Street Fighter IV is too challenging for you, what do you not like about it?
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[QUOTE="Bigboi500"][QUOTE="110million"] I stopped reading. :| SFIV is not something you can see, or read about, to fully understand the changes, you have to play it. 110million

Care to elaborate?

The 2-button grabs help prevent mashers from having any random advantages, the focus attacks add a whole other element to the combat, watch some high level player videos, the way you can come in and out of them can turn around some matches. The revenge bar might not be innovative, but the trade off of taking damage vs dealing damage to perform a super also freshens up the game play and adds more complex strategies in the form of deciding which to go with, the TRIAL modes help teach anyone how to perform high level combos and techniques, to prevent scrubs from being with the game forever, it may take a whole for people to go through them or to see a difference, but it definatly makes it a lot easier to learn how to do the "elite" combos, the unlockables also give good reasons to practice longer on single player (again to try to prevent poor players from just spamming or not knowing how to play) and the ability to play arcade mode and allow people to challange you (through an option) while your in arcade mode, makes it an authenic "arcade experiance" as well as giving you something to do when waiting for an online match.

Again, all these might not mean much in text, but when you actually play the game and form strategies with them, it greatly improves the experiance. The fighting genre is far from dead, I play a great new fighter every few months, people are just not dedicated enough to try new fighters, so they pretend they don't exist or something.

LOL you did care to elaborate. Well done sir.
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#21 Bigboi500
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[QUOTE="Bigboi500"][QUOTE="110million"] I stopped reading. :| SFIV is not something you can see, or read about, to fully understand the changes, you have to play it. 110million

Care to elaborate?

The 2-button grabs help prevent mashers from having any random advantages, the focus attacks add a whole other element to the combat, watch some high level player videos, the way you can come in and out of them can turn around some matches. The revenge bar might not be innovative, but the trade off of taking damage vs dealing damage to perform a super also freshens up the game play and adds more complex strategies in the form of deciding which to go with, the TRIAL modes help teach anyone how to perform high level combos and techniques, to prevent scrubs from being with the game forever, it may take a whole for people to go through them or to see a difference, but it definatly makes it a lot easier to learn how to do the "elite" combos, the unlockables also give good reasons to practice longer on single player (again to try to prevent poor players from just spamming or not knowing how to play) and the ability to play arcade mode and allow people to challange you (through an option) while your in arcade mode, makes it an authenic "arcade experiance" as well as giving you something to do when waiting for an online match.

Again, all these might not mean much in text, but when you actually play the game and form strategies with them, it greatly improves the experiance. The fighting genre is far from dead, I play a great new fighter every few months, people are just not dedicated enough to try new fighters, so they pretend they don't exist or something.

That does sound pretty good. I'll pick this one up when the price drops a bit and when I get gold. What I meant by almost dead genre was that the genre really don't have much room to improve greatly.
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I am convinced it is because you fel the game is hard. Game is awesome. just got it today. I can't wat to actually learn the game instead of button mashing away. Right now I am playing on the easiest difficulty just to unlock the players, but even on that difficulty the game presents a challenge. Seth might be cheap and Zangief grabs are way too powerful, but overalll the game is awesome.
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#23 Panther501
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VF5 and SF4 are the best fighters hands down
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[QUOTE="Couth_"]I don't understand what the hype was behind SFIV. It's a great series, but as far as I'm concerned Tekken and SC have always been betterBioShockOwnz

Tekken and SC are probably the worst fighters. VF and SF are the winners.

AHAHHAHAHAHAHAHhAHAhAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHHHAHAHAHHAHA :lol: x a billion! ur kidding rite Tekken is a much better fighting game than sf4. its good i am sure but not as good as tekken I just hope u were bieng sarcastic :|
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[QUOTE="Couth_"]I don't understand what the hype was behind SFIV. It's a great series, but as far as I'm concerned Tekken and SC have always been betterBioShockOwnz

Tekken and SC are probably the worst fighters. VF and SF are the winners.

Based on what? SF isn'y as fluid as either of the other two. All this "SF is teh GR8T3ST!" is nonsense...

Let the initial wow factor wear off then we will start seeing some more realistic opinions

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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="Couth_"]I don't understand what the hype was behind SFIV. It's a great series, but as far as I'm concerned Tekken and SC have always been betterkilla4lyfe

Tekken and SC are probably the worst fighters. VF and SF are the winners.

AHAHHAHAHAHAHAHhAHAhAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHHHAHAHAHHAHA :lol: x a billion! ur kidding rite Tekken is a much better fighting game than sf4. its good i am sure but not as good as tekken I just hope u were bieng sarcastic :|

Street Fighter will and always be the 2D fighter king.

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Ummmm.... I like Dead or Alive! :D Although, I had only played the 2 DOA and a remake of the 1 DOA, I heard with 3 and 4 the game became very shallow. :( The head ninja is gone, too. So I'm thinking of moving to Tekken.
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imo,

best 2D fighter: Street Fighter and Guilty Gear

best 3D fighter: Tekken. (DoA, Soul Calibur and Virtua Fighter sucks). when I'm hitting my opponents, I feel like I'm hitting rubber, they bounce like plastic.

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#29 Couth_
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Street Fighter will and always be the 2D fighter king.

crazy-player
King of nothing? Street fighter is the only 2d fighter left
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#30 FirstDiscovery
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Had it not been for the mass casualisation, it wouldnt have turned out so dumbed down
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[QUOTE="killa4lyfe"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

Tekken and SC are probably the worst fighters. VF and SF are the winners.

crazy-player

AHAHHAHAHAHAHAHhAHAhAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHHHAHAHAHHAHA :lol: x a billion! ur kidding rite Tekken is a much better fighting game than sf4. its good i am sure but not as good as tekken I just hope u were bieng sarcastic :|

Street Fighter will and always be the 2D fighter king.

yes i cannot deny that fact for sure anyways hopefully my bro will get this game since i dont have nuff money to get this AND Kz2 and LBP :( good time to be stinking rich :P
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[QUOTE="crazy-player"] Street Fighter will and always be the 2D fighter king.

Couth_
King of nothing? Street fighter is the only 2d fighter left

No, there's still KoF, BlazBlue, Bushido Blade, Battle Fantasia, etc.
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="Couth_"]I don't understand what the hype was behind SFIV. It's a great series, but as far as I'm concerned Tekken and SC have always been betterkilla4lyfe

Tekken and SC are probably the worst fighters. VF and SF are the winners.

AHAHHAHAHAHAHAHhAHAhAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHHHAHAHAHHAHA :lol: x a billion! ur kidding rite Tekken is a much better fighting game than sf4. its good i am sure but not as good as tekken I just hope u were bieng sarcastic :|

You're the one who should be sarcastic. :| Tekken might be better then Soul Calibur, but thats not saying much. Street Fighter has a level of depth FAR beyond Tekken, same with Virtua Fighter, if you think otherwise, you're misinformed, its a fact. You might prefere fighters with less depth, or might not be good enough at SFIV, but its factually a deeper fighter, with a lot more going for it in terms of gameplay, then Tekken ever has or ever will.
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Disagree. SF > SC over and over again. SFIV is the best fighter in years.BioShockOwnz
I agree, While I love SC 4(have 68 hrs clocked in so far) but SF4 is great. I love the fact it reminds me of my grade school days playing SF2 getting my arse whooped by my bros (Now I beat all the time LOL). As for SF 4 being overrated it deserves all the praise it gets IMO.
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[QUOTE="Couth_"]I don't understand what the hype was behind SFIV. It's a great series, but as far as I'm concerned Tekken and SC have always been betterBioShockOwnz

Tekken and SC are probably the worst fighters. VF and SF are the winners.

It's just opinions. I agree with him, I enjoyed Tekken and Guilty Gear more than Street Fighter. I have yet to try SF 4 but I will as soon as I get my hands on it.
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Street Fighter IV>all those other fighting games
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#38 Couth_
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[QUOTE="Couth_"][QUOTE="crazy-player"] Street Fighter will and always be the 2D fighter king.

crazy-player
King of nothing? Street fighter is the only 2d fighter left

No, there's still KoF, BlazBlue, Bushido Blade, Battle Fantasia, etc.

The next KoF is 3d. Whens the last time there was a bushido blade?
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Even though I love hte SC series I have to say SF4 was more enjoyabel then SC4. It feels really balanced. Especially online. SC4 felt really cheap cause of anoying players,but SF4 there isint many ways to be be a spamer. One example was me being abel and fighting again someone as ryu. He was spaming hadukens and it was easy to break that spam. All I really want is a guilty gear online.
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[QUOTE="Couth_"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

Tekken and SC are probably the worst fighters. VF and SF are the winners.

BioShockOwnz

Based on what? SF isn'y as fluid as either of the other two. All this "SF is teh GR8T3ST!" is nonsense...

Let the initial wow factor wear off then we will start seeing some more realistic opinions

Sorry, the Tekken and SC are joke franchises.

I wouldn't say they are joke franchises, they just don't have as much depth as Street Fighter. I still enjoy them though.
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Had it not been for the mass casualisation, it wouldnt have turned out so dumbed downFirstDiscovery
WHile I know I didn't play 3rd strike. I don't think SFIV is a game you can say is really dumbed down. I like the offensive focus because it makes each match intense and really unpredictable.
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#42 Couth_
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Sorry, the Tekken and SC are joke franchises. BioShockOwnz
Yeah right. Is that why SC is still regarded as the best fighter of all time, with Tekken 3 giving it competition. Stop spewing that nonsense
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[QUOTE="crazy-player"][QUOTE="Couth_"]King of nothing? Street fighter is the only 2d fighter leftCouth_
No, there's still KoF, BlazBlue, Bushido Blade, Battle Fantasia, etc.

The next KoF is 3d. Whens the last time there was a bushido blade?

The next KoF is 2d.
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The next KoF is 3d. Whens the last time there was a bushido blade?Couth_

I think you should get SFIV and put down the awful Tekken 5: DR PS3 port.

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#45 finalfantasy94
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[QUOTE="Couth_"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

Tekken and SC are probably the worst fighters. VF and SF are the winners.

BioShockOwnz

Based on what? SF isn'y as fluid as either of the other two. All this "SF is teh GR8T3ST!" is nonsense...

Let the initial wow factor wear off then we will start seeing some more realistic opinions

Sorry, the Tekken and SC are joke franchises.

Hey now no need to bash SC. I honestly dont like VF at all. Its way to tecnical. If you miss just one button in anything your dead.

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Even though I love hte SC series I have to say SF4 was more enjoyabel then SC4. It feels really balanced. Especially online. SC4 felt really cheap cause of anoying players,but SF4 there isint many ways to be be a spamer. One example was me being abel and fighting again someone as ryu. He was spaming hadukens and it was easy to break that spam. All I really want is a guilty gear online.finalfantasy94
There's a Guilty Gear 2 online for Xbox. I think it may be part of Xbox Originals but I know it's also BC for the 360.
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#47 chocolate1325
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I don't think Soul Calibur 4 was that good at all but Street Fighter 4 looks miles better but I have always been a big fan of the Street Fighter games.
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#48 one_on_one
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Street Fighter is the God Father of fighting games. But I guess SFIV is not for everyone, but that goes for all games though. SFIV is so good, if I had the money, I would buy the Arcade version and put quarters in it everytime I want to play.
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#49 -DrRobotnik-
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Who cares? Dead of Alive beats them all.
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#50 TalesofRaGnArOk
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I hate how they practically make you (at least for the 360 version) go buy the official fight pad because I could not for the life of me pull of any super moves with the analog stick. After 2 hours, I went back and played SF2Alpha. SF4 just doesn't seem as good. Its a good game, just not the greatest. I also felt the urge to go play SC4 just to get it outta my system....