SFIV 360 superior to arcade version, PS3 not so much

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/face-off-street-fighter-iv-article

I was rather surprised to see that despite the RSX-NVIDIA link between the PS3 and arcade hardware, the Sony console once again sees a measurable drop in image quality compared to the Xbox 360 version. Meanwhile, owners of Microsoft's console get a conversion that is actually noticeably superior to the original arcade game.Eurogamer

As it is, the most noticeable difference between the two versions has nothing to do with the graphics and is all about the more mundane matter of loading times - eight-to-nine seconds per round on 360, double that on PS3. Thankfully the latter version has a ten-minute optional install weighing in at just 2GB, which brings it into the same ballpark loading time as the 360 version running from disc. Eurogamer

It all comes down to bandwidth - the amount of data that can stream in and out of the graphics chip at any given point. RSX can handle 22GB/s of data, but the 7900GS trumps it with double that. This all suggests that Capcom maximised the strengths of the 7900GS and the lack of bandwidth hurts the PS3 conversion. Transparent textures in particular require a ton of bandwidth. On Xbox 360, this isn't really an issue, most likely due to the 10MB of RAM directly connected to the Xenos graphics chip, which as an effective speed of a staggering 256GB/s.Eurogamer

Playing the game online for free > minimal visual differences

But that's just me.

Playing the game online for free > minimal visual differences

But that's just me.

Joust_

PC version FTW.

Playing the game online for free > minimal visual differences

But that's just me.

Joust_

I pay my fee regardless of if I play SFIV or not, so to me, its all the same. ;) Now if you said something about the d-pad, that I would agree with completely.SpruceCaboose

I'm afraid my willpower is going to break down soon. I predict ending up with SF4 and the constipated Blanka fightpad.

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]I pay my fee regardless of if I play SFIV or not, so to me, its all the same. ;) Now if you said something about the d-pad, that I would agree with completely.musicalmac

I'm afraid my willpower is going to break down soon. I predict ending up with SF4 and the constipated Blanka fightpad.

[QUOTE="Joust_"]

Playing the game online for free > minimal visual differences

But that's just me.

loco145

PC version FTW.

Looks to me like all 3 have advantages and disadvantages. The 360 did win in graphics but hardly noticeable, free online for the PS3 and haven't run into lag yet. I did install the game also. Funny how they say the loading times are equal when one has to be slightly faster just like their graphic comparison is a slight difference so there is some doubt in this article from me.

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]I pay my fee regardless of if I play SFIV or not, so to me, its all the same. ;) Now if you said something about the d-pad, that I would agree with completely.musicalmac

I'm afraid my willpower is going to break down soon. I predict ending up with SF4 and the constipated Blanka fightpad.

Yeah the loading times are pretty long on the PS3 version. But you can install the game on HDD and they become the same as the 360's.

[QUOTE="musicalmac"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]I pay my fee regardless of if I play SFIV or not, so to me, its all the same. ;) Now if you said something about the d-pad, that I would agree with completely.Joust_

I'm afraid my willpower is going to break down soon. I predict ending up with SF4 and the constipated Blanka fightpad.

Yeah the loading times are pretty long on the PS3 version. But you can install the game on HDD and they become the same as the 360's.

..and install the 360 version which make it quicker again:P

[QUOTE="loco145"][QUOTE="Joust_"]

Playing the game online for free > minimal visual differences

But that's just me.

ScreamDream

PC version FTW.

Looks to me like all 3 have advantages and disadvantages. The 360 did win in graphics but hardly noticeable, free online for the PS3 and haven't run into lag yet. I did install the game also. Funny how they say the loading times are equal when one has to be slightly faster just like their graphic comparison is a slight difference so there is some doubt in this article from me

[QUOTE="Joust_"][QUOTE="musicalmac"] Agree. The long load times may eventually hamper my enthusiasm to pop the game in, as well.

I'm afraid my willpower is going to break down soon. I predict ending up with SF4 and the constipated Blanka fightpad.

speedsix

Yeah the loading times are pretty long on the PS3 version. But you can install the game on HDD and they become the same as the 360's.

..and install the 360 version which make it quicker again:P

hm... not really. they said capcom didnt optimize the 360 version for installs. according to the article, there isnt any difference for the 360 if you instal. if there is a difference, its very slight

I bet if it was the other way round it would be proof that the PS3 is more powerful But offcourse, Cows will dismiss this:roll:FirstDiscovery

Of course! Hundreds of games look better on 360 than on PS3 but Killzone2 is the proof that PS3 is superior! "cows" :lol:

[QUOTE="FirstDiscovery"]I bet if it was the other way round it would be proof that the PS3 is more powerful But offcourse, Cows will dismiss this:roll:PAL360

Of course! Hundreds of games look better on 360 than on PS3 but Killzone2 is the proof that PS3 is superior! "cows" :lol:

If Killzone 2 can have graphics the 360 can't top then that's all you need to say the PS3 is superior graphically.

Of course you'd have to think that KZ2 graphics are the best console graphics to date... Which a lot of people seem to do.

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

[QUOTE="FirstDiscovery"]I bet if it was the other way round it would be proof that the PS3 is more powerful But offcourse, Cows will dismiss this:roll:Joust_

Of course! Hundreds of games look better on 360 than on PS3 but Killzone2 is the proof that PS3 is superior! "cows" :lol:

If Killzone 2 can have graphics the 360 can't top then that's all you need to say the PS3 is superior graphically.

Of course you'd have to think that KZ2 graphics are the best console graphics to date... Which a lot of people seem to do.

yeah, its amazing what you can do when you develope a game for 4 years!

Was SFIV based on PC code? Doesn't X360 handle that better?

I definitely think that 360 wins in terms of None exlusive graphics. Ps3 though has better looking exclusives. Is everyone happy now?

[QUOTE="FirstDiscovery"]I bet if it was the other way round it would be proof that the PS3 is more powerful But offcourse, Cows will dismiss this:roll:PAL360

Of course! Hundreds of games look better on 360 than on PS3 but Killzone2 is the proof that PS3 is superior! "cows" :lol:

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

[QUOTE="FirstDiscovery"]I bet if it was the other way round it would be proof that the PS3 is more powerful But offcourse, Cows will dismiss this:roll:Joust_

Of course! Hundreds of games look better on 360 than on PS3 but Killzone2 is the proof that PS3 is superior! "cows" :lol:

If Killzone 2 can have graphics the 360 can't top then that's all you need to say the PS3 is superior graphically.

Of course you'd have to think that KZ2 graphics are the best console graphics to date... Which a lot of people seem to do.

[QUOTE="Joust_"][QUOTE="PAL360"]

Of course! Hundreds of games look better on 360 than on PS3 but Killzone2 is the proof that PS3 is superior! "cows" :lol:

ogvampire

If Killzone 2 can have graphics the 360 can't top then that's all you need to say the PS3 is superior graphically.

Of course you'd have to think that KZ2 graphics are the best console graphics to date... Which a lot of people seem to do.

yeah, its amazing what you can do when you develope a game for 4 years!

9 Second load times. It seems like there are no load times period. waynehead895

It makes me wonder if eurogamer knows what they are talking about with this one:|. It literally seems like there are no loading times. Also I've seen and played both version.. they looks basically the same I have no idea how much inspection these people do to find a difference, but I can tell you it's nothing something the average joe can see. I guess they are just doing it to be controversial and have a little more attention.

If Killzone 2 can have graphics the 360 can't top

Joust_

We won't know this until the end of this gen though:|

[QUOTE="Joust_"][QUOTE="PAL360"]

Of course! Hundreds of games look better on 360 than on PS3 but Killzone2 is the proof that PS3 is superior! "cows" :lol:

ogvampire

If Killzone 2 can have graphics the 360 can't top then that's all you need to say the PS3 is superior graphically.

Of course you'd have to think that KZ2 graphics are the best console graphics to date... Which a lot of people seem to do.

yeah, its amazing what you can do when you develope a game for 4 years!

What is the point of your post again?

[QUOTE="Joust_"][QUOTE="PAL360"]

Of course! Hundreds of games look better on 360 than on PS3 but Killzone2 is the proof that PS3 is superior! "cows" :lol:

ogvampire

If Killzone 2 can have graphics the 360 can't top then that's all you need to say the PS3 is superior graphically.

Of course you'd have to think that KZ2 graphics are the best console graphics to date... Which a lot of people seem to do.

yeah, its amazing what you can do when you develope a game for 4 years!

[QUOTE="ogvampire"][QUOTE="Joust_"]

If Killzone 2 can have graphics the 360 can't top then that's all you need to say the PS3 is superior graphically.

Of course you'd have to think that KZ2 graphics are the best console graphics to date... Which a lot of people seem to do.

FirstDiscovery

yeah, its amazing what you can do when you develope a game for 4 years!

difference: too human jumped from console to console... i believe it was supposed to be a ps1 game at first

kz2 was meant to be for the ps3 from the get go...

[QUOTE="Joust_"]

If Killzone 2 can have graphics the 360 can't top

speedsix

We won't know this until the end of this gen though:|

If: –conjunction

[QUOTE="Joust_"][QUOTE="PAL360"]

Of course! Hundreds of games look better on 360 than on PS3 but Killzone2 is the proof that PS3 is superior! "cows" :lol:

FirstDiscovery

If Killzone 2 can have graphics the 360 can't top then that's all you need to say the PS3 is superior graphically.

Of course you'd have to think that KZ2 graphics are the best console graphics to date... Which a lot of people seem to do.

We're talking graphics. Maybe you should read first.

[QUOTE="ogvampire"][QUOTE="Joust_"]

If Killzone 2 can have graphics the 360 can't top then that's all you need to say the PS3 is superior graphically.

Of course you'd have to think that KZ2 graphics are the best console graphics to date... Which a lot of people seem to do.

Flamestos

yeah, its amazing what you can do when you develope a game for 4 years!

i played both demos... i am not impressed with kz2 graphics, i liked RE5 alot more

[QUOTE="FirstDiscovery"]I bet if it was the other way round it would be proof that the PS3 is more powerful But offcourse, Cows will dismiss this:roll:PAL360

Of course! Hundreds of games look better on 360 than on PS3 but Killzone2 is the proof that PS3 is superior! "cows" :lol:

I mean, I really hope you are joking.

[QUOTE="Flamestos"][QUOTE="ogvampire"]

yeah, its amazing what you can do when you develope a game for 4 years!

ogvampire

i played both demos... i am not impressed with kz2 graphics, i liked RE5 alot more

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

[QUOTE="FirstDiscovery"]I bet if it was the other way round it would be proof that the PS3 is more powerful But offcourse, Cows will dismiss this:roll:yoyo462001

Of course! Hundreds of games look better on 360 than on PS3 but Killzone2 is the proof that PS3 is superior! "cows" :lol:

[QUOTE="yoyo462001"][QUOTE="PAL360"]

Of course! Hundreds of games look better on 360 than on PS3 but Killzone2 is the proof that PS3 is superior! "cows" :lol:

Javy03

[QUOTE="ogvampire"][QUOTE="Flamestos"] I always hear people say this but who cares how long it took the end result is what it is. I don't even think Killzone 2 is teh uber ultimate console graphics war winner it just has the crown right now. Fact is it's probably the best looking game (Won't know until I get this game and RE5 for comparison) and it's a PS3 exclusive.Flamestos

i played both demos... i am not impressed with kz2 graphics, i liked RE5 alot more

i dont know about you, but i think people say it has the best graphics on consoles based more on atmostphere than actual technical achievement

[QUOTE="Flamestos"][QUOTE="ogvampire"]

yeah, its amazing what you can do when you develope a game for 4 years!

ogvampire

i played both demos... i am not impressed with kz2 graphics, i liked RE5 alot more

The KZ2 build was from last year and it's only gotten better looking as it's come close to releasing, so I expect the games final graphics to look simply stunning, it's better than RE5's but not miles better. I know RE5 was probably an early build too but in general console exclusives>console multi-plats in graphics. 360>PS3 in graphics multi-plats(most of the time) PS3>360 in graphics exclusives(most of the time)

[QUOTE="ogvampire"][QUOTE="Flamestos"] I always hear people say this but who cares how long it took the end result is what it is. I don't even think Killzone 2 is teh uber ultimate console graphics war winner it just has the crown right now. Fact is it's probably the best looking game (Won't know until I get this game and RE5 for comparison) and it's a PS3 exclusive.mmirza23

i played both demos... i am not impressed with kz2 graphics, i liked RE5 alot more

The KZ2 build was from last year and it's only gotten better looking as it's come close to releasing, so I expect the games final graphics to look simply stunning, it's better than RE5's but not miles better. I know RE5 was probably an early build too but in general console exclusives>console multi-plats in graphics. 360>PS3 in graphics multi-plats(most of the time) PS3>360 in graphics exclusives(most of the time)

have you played the final build? i doubt it would look any different at all

i have never seen where the final build looks better than the demo for consoles...

i played both demos... i am not impressed with kz2 graphics, i liked RE5 alot more

The KZ2 build was from last year and it's only gotten better looking as it's come close to releasing, so I expect the games final graphics to look simply stunning, it's better than RE5's but not miles better. I know RE5 was probably an early build too but in general console exclusives>console multi-plats in graphics. 360>PS3 in graphics multi-plats(most of the time) PS3>360 in graphics exclusives(most of the time)

have you played the final build?

[QUOTE="ogvampire"][QUOTE="mmirza23"]

The KZ2 build was from last year and it's only gotten better looking as it's come close to releasing, so I expect the games final graphics to look simply stunning, it's better than RE5's but not miles better. I know RE5 was probably an early build too but in general console exclusives>console multi-plats in graphics. 360>PS3 in graphics multi-plats(most of the time) PS3>360 in graphics exclusives(most of the time)

mmirza23

have you played the final build?

its not simple logic. at this point in its development, they are just tying loose ends... they are not doing any graphical upgrades

in the demo, what you see is what you get.

[QUOTE="ogvampire"][QUOTE="Joust_"]

If Killzone 2 can have graphics the 360 can't top then that's all you need to say the PS3 is superior graphically.

Of course you'd have to think that KZ2 graphics are the best console graphics to date... Which a lot of people seem to do.

FirstDiscovery

yeah, its amazing what you can do when you develope a game for 4 years!

[QUOTE="mmirza23"][QUOTE="ogvampire"]

i played both demos... i am not impressed with kz2 graphics, i liked RE5 alot more

ogvampire

The KZ2 build was from last year and it's only gotten better looking as it's come close to releasing, so I expect the games final graphics to look simply stunning, it's better than RE5's but not miles better. I know RE5 was probably an early build too but in general console exclusives>console multi-plats in graphics. 360>PS3 in graphics multi-plats(most of the time) PS3>360 in graphics exclusives(most of the time)

have you played the final build? i doubt it would look any different at all

i have never seen where the final build looks better than the demo for consoles...

you should really check the slide that have the final build vs a late 2008 build.. its all about the light sources

and heres an idea, just install the game on the ps3 version....problem solved.....

Soul calibur 4 as the same way....just install the game, its one smoke breaks worth of time..... althogh i will say that it is annoying playing online ith people ho didnt install the game...then it gets annoying so there is that

but that does not in any detract from my experiance with the game

[QUOTE="ogvampire"][QUOTE="mmirza23"]

The KZ2 build was from last year and it's only gotten better looking as it's come close to releasing, so I expect the games final graphics to look simply stunning, it's better than RE5's but not miles better. I know RE5 was probably an early build too but in general console exclusives>console multi-plats in graphics. 360>PS3 in graphics multi-plats(most of the time) PS3>360 in graphics exclusives(most of the time)

hyperboy152000

have you played the final build? i doubt it would look any different at all

i have never seen where the final build looks better than the demo for consoles...

you should really check the slide that have the final build vs a late 2008 build.. its all about the light sources

http://www.psu.com/Killzone-2---Dec-08-vs-Jan-09-build-comparison-News--a6010-p0.php

[QUOTE="ogvampire"][QUOTE="mmirza23"]

The KZ2 build was from last year and it's only gotten better looking as it's come close to releasing, so I expect the games final graphics to look simply stunning, it's better than RE5's but not miles better. I know RE5 was probably an early build too but in general console exclusives>console multi-plats in graphics. 360>PS3 in graphics multi-plats(most of the time) PS3>360 in graphics exclusives(most of the time)

hyperboy152000

have you played the final build? i doubt it would look any different at all

i have never seen where the final build looks better than the demo for consoles...

you should really check the slide that have the final build vs a late 2008 build.. its all about the light sources

i know, i saw the comparison. the color hue is different, the graphics are the same.

in the comparison, the 'preview code' is awfully blurry... it doesnt look like that in the demo