I've played it on both and there is no difference in any way shape or form.
patriots7672
what's your gamertag? oh that's right, you don't have a 360
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I've played it on both and there is no difference in any way shape or form.
patriots7672
what's your gamertag? oh that's right, you don't have a 360
[QUOTE="FirstDiscovery"]I bet if it was the other way round it would be proof that the PS3 is more powerful But offcourse, Cows will dismiss this:roll:PAL360
Of course! Hundreds of games look better on 360 than on PS3 but Killzone2 is the proof that PS3 is superior! "cows" :lol:
multiplats never make one console more superior than others...its called lazy devs......lemmings :roll:[QUOTE="PAL360"][QUOTE="FirstDiscovery"]I bet if it was the other way round it would be proof that the PS3 is more powerful But offcourse, Cows will dismiss this:roll:killa4lyfe
Of course! Hundreds of games look better on 360 than on PS3 but Killzone2 is the proof that PS3 is superior! "cows" :lol:
multiplats never make one console more superior than others...its called lazy devs......lemmings :roll:no one claimed such a thing, stop putting words in people's mouth. fanboys :roll:
[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]Screw image quality, gameplay is much more important. If I had a PS3 I'd get the game for that system because of the d pad. The d pad on the 360 controller is terrible for fighting games.Erik_Lensherr
Anyone who uses a PS3 or a 360 controller for a fighting game isn't serious about it anyway so your point is Moot..
Wow that has to be the most sillyiest thing I ever heard.
[QUOTE="Joust_"][QUOTE="PAL360"]Of course! Hundreds of games look better on 360 than on PS3 but Killzone2 is the proof that PS3 is superior! "cows" :lol:
ogvampire
If Killzone 2 can have graphics the 360 can't top then that's all you need to say the PS3 is superior graphically.
Of course you'd have to think that KZ2 graphics are the best console graphics to date... Which a lot of people seem to do.
yeah, its amazing what you can do when you develope a game for 4 years!
So what was Too Human's problem, it took them 10 years, and the game was still grabage.
[QUOTE="musicalmac"]I also found this bit interesting: [quote="Eurogamer"]It all comes down to bandwidth - the amount of data that can stream in and out of the graphics chip at any given point. RSX can handle 22GB/s of data, but the 7900GS trumps it with double that. This all suggests that Capcom maximised the strengths of the 7900GS and the lack of bandwidth hurts the PS3 conversion. Transparent textures in particular require a ton of bandwidth. On Xbox 360, this isn't really an issue, most likely due to the 10MB of RAM directly connected to the Xenos graphics chip, which as an effective speed of a staggering 256GB/s.PoppaGamerIt's interesting hearing it come from a reputable source, and not a random blog. To hear what? That a game dev'd on one console using its strengths and trying that same development on a console with different hardware gives you a lesser quality product? Yeah, we really needed confirmation on that. Otherwise you're trying to use this as form of proof that PS3 can't do what 360 does. And we know that as false due to the exclusive titles made specifically for the system. It's all well and good to point out why multiplats are so often superior on the 360, but from a practical perspective all that really matters is that they ARE. Unless, of course, all you ever plan on owning for the PS3 is 10 copies of KZ2 and 6 of MGS4...
[QUOTE="ogvampire"][QUOTE="Joust_"]If Killzone 2 can have graphics the 360 can't top then that's all you need to say the PS3 is superior graphically.
Of course you'd have to think that KZ2 graphics are the best console graphics to date... Which a lot of people seem to do.
CubanBlunt
yeah, its amazing what you can do when you develope a game for 4 years!
So what was Too Human's problem, it took them 10 years, and the game was still grabage.
Read back in the thread, this was already brought up.... and shot down.The truth is the visual disparity is very noticeable. I spent almost an hour and a half at HMV playing SF4 on the kiosks with random kids, switching from the PS3 to 360 kiosks all the while. I was completely confused which console to buy it on. As I had imagined the PS3 controller was far better for this game, however, what I didn't imagine was how much better this game looks on the 360, unfortunately the PS3 is marred with noticeable aisling. The 360 version on the other hand looks like a drawing come to life. Despite all this, since its been impossible for me to find a fightpad at a reasonable price, I think I will try and return my 360 disc for the PS3 disc. But, honestly, I just played both versions side by side, and the difference is surprisingly big.KingNabster
Like how? Maybe the TV settings were different? You know the thumbsticks work just as good as the D-pad for fighting in this game, so why are you worried about buying a fight pad?
I bet if it was the other way round it would be proof that the PS3 is more powerful But offcourse, Cows will dismiss this:roll:FirstDiscovery
Of course! Hundreds of games look better on 360 than on PS3 but Killzone2 is the proof that PS3 is superior! "cows" :lol:
multiplats never make one console more superior than others...its called lazy devs......lemmings :roll:so every single dev team out there are lazy then...lol[QUOTE="KingNabster"]The truth is the visual disparity is very noticeable. I spent almost an hour and a half at HMV playing SF4 on the kiosks with random kids, switching from the PS3 to 360 kiosks all the while. I was completely confused which console to buy it on. As I had imagined the PS3 controller was far better for this game, however, what I didn't imagine was how much better this game looks on the 360, unfortunately the PS3 is marred with noticeable aisling. The 360 version on the other hand looks like a drawing come to life. Despite all this, since its been impossible for me to find a fightpad at a reasonable price, I think I will try and return my 360 disc for the PS3 disc. But, honestly, I just played both versions side by side, and the difference is surprisingly big.patriots7672
Like how? Maybe the TV settings were different? You know the thumbsticks work just as good as the D-pad for fighting in this game, so why are you worried about buying a fight pad?
Dude, I swear to god, I have both systems I have absolutely no motive, either concious or unconcius to have one console suceed. In face being the only PS3 owner amongst my friends, I probably want the PS3 to suceed a little more. At first I thought it had to be the TV settings, but they have it set up on two kiosks for each, and each kiosk has two screens, one for the player, and one massive screen above that so ppl passing by could see. But seriously, its particularly the jaggies on the PS3, and the lack of them on the 360, combined with superior shadows on the 360. Its not just it looks better on the 360, the two versions also look different. The PS3 models are larger and take up more of the screen. The PS3 models are also drawn with a much thicker line for some reason. Its not so much that the PS3 version look bad, it looks great, but the 360 version looks simply gorgeous. Seriously, man, they are not identical, certainly not if one is playing it on a big screen. My point is, the visual disparity is large enough to warrant attention, and even affect the overall experience IMO.I bet if it was the other way round it would be proof that the PS3 is more powerful But offcourse, Cows will dismiss this:roll:FirstDiscovery
Of course! Hundreds of games look better on 360 than on PS3 but Killzone2 is the proof that PS3 is superior! "cows" :lol:
multiplats never make one console more superior than others...its called lazy devs......lemmings :roll: This is a bizarre notion. If the 360 versions of multiplats are kicking butt and taking names, how does this not help make the 360 superior?[QUOTE="patriots7672"][QUOTE="KingNabster"]The truth is the visual disparity is very noticeable. I spent almost an hour and a half at HMV playing SF4 on the kiosks with random kids, switching from the PS3 to 360 kiosks all the while. I was completely confused which console to buy it on. As I had imagined the PS3 controller was far better for this game, however, what I didn't imagine was how much better this game looks on the 360, unfortunately the PS3 is marred with noticeable aisling. The 360 version on the other hand looks like a drawing come to life. Despite all this, since its been impossible for me to find a fightpad at a reasonable price, I think I will try and return my 360 disc for the PS3 disc. But, honestly, I just played both versions side by side, and the difference is surprisingly big.KingNabster
Like how? Maybe the TV settings were different? You know the thumbsticks work just as good as the D-pad for fighting in this game, so why are you worried about buying a fight pad?
Dude, I swear to god, I have both systems I have absolutely no motive, either concious or unconcius to have one console suceed. In face being the only PS3 owner amongst my friends, I probably want the PS3 to suceed a little more. At first I thought it had to be the TV settings, but they have it set up on two kiosks for each, and each kiosk has two screens, one for the player, and one massive screen above that so ppl passing by could see. But seriously, its particularly the jaggies on the PS3, and the lack of them on the 360, combined with superior shadows on the 360. Its not just it looks better on the 360, the two versions also look different. The PS3 models are larger and take up more of the screen. The PS3 models are also drawn with a much thicker line for some reason. Its not so much that the PS3 version look bad, it looks great, but the 360 version looks simply gorgeous. Seriously, man, they are not identical, certainly not if one is playing it on a big screen. My point is, the visual disparity is large enough to warrant attention, and even affect the overall experience IMO.Read my post above and read carefully the part where it says they couldn't find any visual disparity between the 2 versions. How do you do it? You hate PS3 or what?
SF 4 has the same art design to the characters as Prince of Persia and Afro Samurai and it's a simple fighting game which the PS3 and 360 can easily render and load. They're identical!patriots7672
What are you talking about. The PS3 version drops resolution because it can't cope, is missing lighting effects and has no AA. These are facts, not someones opinion.
[QUOTE="patriots7672"][QUOTE="KingNabster"]The truth is the visual disparity is very noticeable. I spent almost an hour and a half at HMV playing SF4 on the kiosks with random kids, switching from the PS3 to 360 kiosks all the while. I was completely confused which console to buy it on. As I had imagined the PS3 controller was far better for this game, however, what I didn't imagine was how much better this game looks on the 360, unfortunately the PS3 is marred with noticeable aisling. The 360 version on the other hand looks like a drawing come to life. Despite all this, since its been impossible for me to find a fightpad at a reasonable price, I think I will try and return my 360 disc for the PS3 disc. But, honestly, I just played both versions side by side, and the difference is surprisingly big.KingNabster
Like how? Maybe the TV settings were different? You know the thumbsticks work just as good as the D-pad for fighting in this game, so why are you worried about buying a fight pad?
Dude, I swear to god, I have both systems I have absolutely no motive, either concious or unconcius to have one console suceed. In face being the only PS3 owner amongst my friends, I probably want the PS3 to suceed a little more. At first I thought it had to be the TV settings, but they have it set up on two kiosks for each, and each kiosk has two screens, one for the player, and one massive screen above that so ppl passing by could see. But seriously, its particularly the jaggies on the PS3, and the lack of them on the 360, combined with superior shadows on the 360. Its not just it looks better on the 360, the two versions also look different. The PS3 models are larger and take up more of the screen. The PS3 models are also drawn with a much thicker line for some reason. Its not so much that the PS3 version look bad, it looks great, but the 360 version looks simply gorgeous. Seriously, man, they are not identical, certainly not if one is playing it on a big screen. My point is, the visual disparity is large enough to warrant attention, and even affect the overall experience IMO.If it was a big difference every website thats crediable would say so and make you take notice.
SF 4 has the same art design to the characters as Prince of Persia and Afro Samurai and it's a simple fighting game which the PS3 and 360 can easily render and load. They're identical!patriots7672
denial at its best
[QUOTE="patriots7672"]SF 4 has the same art design to the characters as Prince of Persia and Afro Samurai and it's a simple fighting game which the PS3 and 360 can easily render and load. They're identical!speedsix
What are you talking about. The PS3 version drops resolution because it can't cope, is missing lighting effects and has no AA. These are facts, not someones opinion.
some people just can't take the truth
[QUOTE="PAL360"][QUOTE="FirstDiscovery"]I bet if it was the other way round it would be proof that the PS3 is more powerful But offcourse, Cows will dismiss this:roll:yoyo462001
Of course! Hundreds of games look better on 360 than on PS3 but Killzone2 is the proof that PS3 is superior! "cows" :lol:
its no surprise cows are very selective over what they brag about and dismiss everything which isnt K2 or MGS4If KZ2 had been a multiplat from the start then it would still look just as good as it does now on the PS3 and mabey a little better on the 360 :P Sure I kid but the way multiplats seem to favor the 360 it just may have.[QUOTE="yoyo462001"][QUOTE="PAL360"]its no surprise cows are very selective over what they brag about and dismiss everything which isnt K2 or MGS4If KZ2 had been a multiplat from the start then it would still look just as good as it does now on the PS3 and mabey a little better on the 360 :P Sure I kid but the way multiplats seem to favor the 360 it just may have.Of course! Hundreds of games look better on 360 than on PS3 but Killzone2 is the proof that PS3 is superior! "cows" :lol:
vaderhater
i dont see what in killzone 2 cant be done on the 360. so i kinda agree with that part
It's sad that lemmings have to result to EUrogamer (most laughable gaming journalism next to Gamedaily) to fuel their ego about SF4's slight faster loading time and 'graphics' while other major gaming sites such as here at Gamespot and IGN and etc clearly state they are equal.peacenutman
Eurogamer technical comparisons are created by Beyond3D.com. Go there now and read the forums and come back and tell me their understanding of such a thing is laughable.
On the forums there posts discussing console comparisons are banned from any sort of subjective or personal opinion and are purely restricted to the technical aspects, which is pretty much what you see in the Eurogamer articles they create.
[QUOTE="vaderhater"][QUOTE="yoyo462001"] its no surprise cows are very selective over what they brag about and dismiss everything which isnt K2 or MGS4ogvampireIf KZ2 had been a multiplat from the start then it would still look just as good as it does now on the PS3 and mabey a little better on the 360 :P Sure I kid but the way multiplats seem to favor the 360 it just may have.
i dont see what in killzone 2 cant be done on the 360. so i kinda agree with that part
so what game comes close or look just as good as KZ2 on the 360?[QUOTE="peacenutman"]It's sad that lemmings have to result to EUrogamer (most laughable gaming journalism next to Gamedaily) to fuel their ego about SF4's slight faster loading time and 'graphics' while other major gaming sites such as here at Gamespot and IGN and etc clearly state they are equal.speedsix
Eurogamer technical comparisons are created by Beyond3D.com. Go there now and read the forums and come back and tell me their understanding of such a thing is laughable.
On the forums there posts discussing console comparisons are banned from any sort of subjective or personal opinion and are purely restricted to the technical aspects, which is pretty much what you see in the Eurogamer articles they create.
Have you read their reviews on games? Come back to me when you do and you'll understand how laughable they are.[QUOTE="ogvampire"][QUOTE="vaderhater"]If KZ2 had been a multiplat from the start then it would still look just as good as it does now on the PS3 and mabey a little better on the 360 :P Sure I kid but the way multiplats seem to favor the 360 it just may have.ermacness
i dont see what in killzone 2 cant be done on the 360. so i kinda agree with that part
so what game comes close or look just as good as KZ2 on the 360?So what we hypothesized was that if KZ2 had been done on both systems at the same time with the same amount of effort would they be identical? Because it is easy to take something you know wont be done on the other system and sell it as the be all end all of graphics. It is a safe bet where you know you can't be proved wrong. Isnt it?[QUOTE="peacenutman"][QUOTE="speedsix"]Have you read their reviews on games? Come back to me when you do and you'll understand how laughable they are. Your laughable. Eurogamer is not. You clearly dont understand their review criteria, so be quiet. LOL calm down, no need to get upset. Don't feel bad because somebody dispise your beloved Eurogamer.Eurogamer technical comparisons are created by Beyond3D.com. Go there now and read the forums and come back and tell me their understanding of such a thing is laughable.
On the forums there posts discussing console comparisons are banned from any sort of subjective or personal opinion and are purely restricted to the technical aspects, which is pretty much what you see in the Eurogamer articles they create.
-DrRobotnik-
[QUOTE="speedsix"][QUOTE="peacenutman"]It's sad that lemmings have to result to EUrogamer (most laughable gaming journalism next to Gamedaily) to fuel their ego about SF4's slight faster loading time and 'graphics' while other major gaming sites such as here at Gamespot and IGN and etc clearly state they are equal.peacenutman
Eurogamer technical comparisons are created by Beyond3D.com. Go there now and read the forums and come back and tell me their understanding of such a thing is laughable.
On the forums there posts discussing console comparisons are banned from any sort of subjective or personal opinion and are purely restricted to the technical aspects, which is pretty much what you see in the Eurogamer articles they create.
Have you read their reviews on games? Come back to me when you do and you'll understand how laughable they are.Firstly, while you may not agree with their scores, Eurogamer reviews are some of the most well written reviews from all publications in my opinion. Secondly, Eurogamer don't create the comparison articles do, Beyond3D.com do.[QUOTE="ogvampire"][QUOTE="vaderhater"]If KZ2 had been a multiplat from the start then it would still look just as good as it does now on the PS3 and mabey a little better on the 360 :P Sure I kid but the way multiplats seem to favor the 360 it just may have.ermacness
i dont see what in killzone 2 cant be done on the 360. so i kinda agree with that part
so what game comes close or look just as good as KZ2 on the 360?let me ask you this first: what does kz2 do that the 360 cant handle?
Wow, after reading the whole thread, I realize lemmings are on full force on this lmao. I guess after that terrible flop of Halo Wars, lemmings need something to make them feel better (or superior?) by using Eurogamer to "prove" SF4 is better on X360. I guess if Eurogamer said the same thing about FEAR 2, lemmings would eat that up too.
Unless every other major sites state that the PS3 version is inferior (which clearly not the case) like Fallout 3, I won't buy this nonsense.
[QUOTE="ermacness"][QUOTE="ogvampire"]so what game comes close or look just as good as KZ2 on the 360?So what we hypothesized was that if KZ2 had been done on both systems at the same time with the same amount of effort would they be identical? Because it is easy to take something you know wont be done on the other system and sell it as the be all end all of graphics. It is a safe bet where you know you can't be proved wrong. Isnt it?1st off, there hasn't been many multiplat that have been groundbreaking in visuals. Now maybe they looked good here and there, but nothing groundbreaking. Secondly, lems love to use the "but the 4 year dev time and 20 mill budget and if the 360 had a game that took that long with that much into the dev budget, our game would've looked better", but they seem to forget that while this is or may be the case, the thing that still remains is that KZ2 still looks better than most-all of the 360 exclusives and if this was that case with the 360, it's totally fictional and until this is proven true, that's where this story staysi dont see what in killzone 2 cant be done on the 360. so i kinda agree with that part
vaderhater
Has anyone installed the 360 version? If so, is there any improvement or benefit apart from loading noise?
Has anyone installed the 360 version? If so, is there any improvement or benefit apart from loading noise?
SgtWhiskeyjack
I have installed SF4 on 360, and I haven't noticed any major benefit, but it may load faster, I'm not sure. I can tell you that side by side, the PS3 loads faster.
I install most of my most played games, so I actually don't know how SF4 performs without an install for the most part.
[QUOTE="vaderhater"][QUOTE="ermacness"]so what game comes close or look just as good as KZ2 on the 360?ermacnessSo what we hypothesized was that if KZ2 had been done on both systems at the same time with the same amount of effort would they be identical? Because it is easy to take something you know wont be done on the other system and sell it as the be all end all of graphics. It is a safe bet where you know you can't be proved wrong. Isnt it?1st off, there hasn't been many multiplat that have been groundbreaking in visuals. Now maybe they looked good here and there, but nothing groundbreaking. Secondly, lems love to use the "but the 4 year dev time and 20 mill budget and if the 360 had a game that took that long with that much into the dev budget, our game would've looked better", but they seem to forget that while this is or may be the case, the thing that still remains is that KZ2 still looks better than most-all of the 360 exclusives and if this was that case with the 360, it's totally fictional and until this is proven true, that's where this story stays You just proved what I said.
It all comes down to bandwidth - the amount of data that can stream in and out of the graphics chip at any given point. RSX can handle 22GB/s of data, but the 7900GS trumps it with double that. This all suggests that Capcom maximised the strengths of the 7900GS and the lack of bandwidth hurts the PS3 conversion. Transparent textures in particular require a ton of bandwidth. On Xbox 360, this isn't really an issue, most likely due to the 10MB of RAM directly connected to the Xenos graphics chip, which as an effective speed of a staggering 256GB/s.EurogamerIt's interesting hearing it come from a reputable source, and not a random blog.The PS3 bandwidth comes from its Main RAM 25.6GB/s and also VRAM 22.5GB/s and the 360 256GB/s is to EDRAM but its memory interface bus is only 22.2GB/s. The RSX is suggested to be as powerfull as 2x 6800GTs.
[QUOTE="peacenutman"]Wow, after reading the whole thread, I realize lemmings are on full force on this lmao. I guess after that terrible flop of Halo Wars, lemmings need something to make them feel better (or superior?) by using Eurogamer to "prove" SF4 is better on X360. I guess if Eurogamer said the same thing about FEAR 2, lemmings would eat that up too.
Unless every other major sites state that the PS3 version is inferior (which clearly not the case) like Fallout 3, I won't buy this nonsense.
CreepyBacon
Tip: Change your signature. No one likes a liar.
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Once again the 360 reigns supereme and defends it's title of graphics king, another superior title for the little white box.
LOL!!!!!!!!!!! excuse me, but you can't be serious, are you?[QUOTE="ermacness"][QUOTE="vaderhater"]So what we hypothesized was that if KZ2 had been done on both systems at the same time with the same amount of effort would they be identical? Because it is easy to take something you know wont be done on the other system and sell it as the be all end all of graphics. It is a safe bet where you know you can't be proved wrong. Isnt it?vaderhater1st off, there hasn't been many multiplat that have been groundbreaking in visuals. Now maybe they looked good here and there, but nothing groundbreaking. Secondly, lems love to use the "but the 4 year dev time and 20 mill budget and if the 360 had a game that took that long with that much into the dev budget, our game would've looked better", but they seem to forget that while this is or may be the case, the thing that still remains is that KZ2 still looks better than most-all of the 360 exclusives and if this was that case with the 360, it's totally fictional and until this is proven true, that's where this story stays You just proved what I said.so why quick quote me?
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