SFIV 360 superior to arcade version, PS3 not so much

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#51 bethwo
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My brother is buying it, and he only has a PS3...

I'm sure we'll manage.

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#52 EndorphinMaster
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I love how quick fanboys change the topic to Killzone 2. Insecurity much?
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#53 Gxgear
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O noes it has better graphics I better run out and buy a 360, pick up SFIV and a fight stick now.

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#54 Uptown
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So Eurogamer says the PS3 version has a measurable drop in image quality, then later says the difference between the two is the load times, of which are completely negated by the optional install...ok
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[QUOTE="PAL360"]

[QUOTE="FirstDiscovery"]I bet if it was the other way round it would be proof that the PS3 is more powerful But offcourse, Cows will dismiss this:roll:heretrix

Of course! Hundreds of games look better on 360 than on PS3 but Killzone2 is the proof that PS3 is superior! "cows" :lol:

LMAO. Hundreds? surely you jest.

I mean, I really hope you are joking.

Well....actually its true! Theres 4 or 5 multiplats that looks exactly the same (the ones using the PS3 as lead platform) but by a small margin or not ALL the other multiplats look better on 360. Some fanboys like to say that this problem is solved but latest games like Skate2, Fear2, Resident Evil 5, Street Fighter 4 prove they are wrong ;)

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#56 mitu123
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I love how quick fanboys change the topic to Killzone 2. Insecurity much?EndorphinMaster
Yeah, because they counter attack every arguement with it, let it go guys, we know it looks awesome.
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#58 finalfantasy94
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So Eurogamer says the PS3 version has a measurable drop in image quality, then later says the difference between the two is the load times, of which are completely negated by the optional install...okUptown

Fanboys likes the TC reach out for anything to say "My version is better PFFFT". In the end it doesint make any difference in gameplay itself and the game still looks great. THats all that matters.

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Quick everyone, get your magnifying glasses out.
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#60 Sollet
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[QUOTE="FirstDiscovery"]I bet if it was the other way round it would be proof that the PS3 is more powerful But offcourse, Cows will dismiss this:roll:PAL360

Of course! Hundreds of games look better on 360 than on PS3 but Killzone2 is the proof that PS3 is superior! "cows" :lol:

Doesn't change the fact that it is superior looking than anything on the 360 "lemming".
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#61 Tekkenloving
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it's already been known for a few weeks so...
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#62 Nonstop-Madness
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idk but the PS3 version looks like it has deeper colors. The PS3 version has better shadows to.
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#63 mmirza23
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[QUOTE="heretrix"][QUOTE="PAL360"]

Of course! Hundreds of games look better on 360 than on PS3 but Killzone2 is the proof that PS3 is superior! "cows" :lol:

PAL360

LMAO. Hundreds? surely you jest.

I mean, I really hope you are joking.

Well....actually its true! Theres 4 or 5 multiplats that looks exactly the same (the ones using the PS3 as lead platform) but by a small margin or not ALL the other multiplats look better on 360. Some fanboys like to say that this problem is solved but latest games like Skate2, Fear2, Resident Evil 5, Street Fighter 4 prove they are wrong ;)

The differences are neglible in SF4, RE5 isn't out yet so no comparison should be made. Higher profile multi-plat releases are pretty much the same, it's the smaller studios who don't have a budget to put extra people on the PS3 development that struggle to put out equal quality games.

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#64 EndorphinMaster
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So Eurogamer says the PS3 version has a measurable drop in image quality, then later says the difference between the two is the load times, of which are completely negated by the optional install...okUptown

ok. feel better now?

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#65 EndorphinMaster
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idk but the PS3 version looks like it has deeper colors. The PS3 version has better shadows to. Nonstop-Madness

according to you :roll:

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#66 LibertySaint
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yeah the 360 verison is suppose to be different according to the devs too, just like cod4 was different on ps3 and 360 when the game is in action.

Heck who here can tell me which system each of these screens are from:

if u can't tell which screen is from which system, stop whining about and just accept they both look good even if one is better then the other....however slightly it may be.

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#67 ToScA-
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[QUOTE="Joust_"]

If Killzone 2 can have graphics the 360 can't top

speedsix

We won't know this until the end of this gen though:|

Didn't you know? Everyone on System Wars is a certified game developer.
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#68 mmirza23
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[QUOTE="ToScA-"][QUOTE="speedsix"][QUOTE="Joust_"]

If Killzone 2 can have graphics the 360 can't top

We won't know this until the end of this gen though:|

Didn't you know? Everyone on System Wars is a certified game developer.

Don't forget professional psychic.
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[QUOTE="Nonstop-Madness"]idk but the PS3 version looks like it has deeper colors. The PS3 version has better shadows to. EndorphinMaster

according to you :roll:

Ya, this article http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/face-off-street-fighter-iv-article is also according to someone. He's opinion isnt better than mine just because he works for Eurogamer but it also doesnt make my opinion's better either.
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#70 EndorphinMaster
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[QUOTE="EndorphinMaster"]

[QUOTE="Nonstop-Madness"]idk but the PS3 version looks like it has deeper colors. The PS3 version has better shadows to. Nonstop-Madness

according to you :roll:

Ya, this article http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/face-off-street-fighter-iv-article is also according to someone. He's opinion isnt better than mine just because he works for Eurogamer but it also doesnt make my opinion's better either.

except that he works for a trustable source and is credible enough to make comparisons. You're just another guy defending the PS3 on SW

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#71 mmirza23
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[QUOTE="Nonstop-Madness"][QUOTE="EndorphinMaster"]

according to you :roll:

EndorphinMaster

Ya, this article http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/face-off-street-fighter-iv-article is also according to someone. He's opinion isnt better than mine just because he works for Eurogamer but it also doesnt make my opinion's better either.

except that he works for a trustable source and is credible enough to make comparisons. You're just another guy defending the PS3 on SW

Yeah and other reviews have stated the game looks virtually the same, if the difference is so notable as this guy makes it to be how come that didn't affect the review score? Face it the game is virtually visually identical.

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#72 EndorphinMaster
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[QUOTE="EndorphinMaster"][QUOTE="Nonstop-Madness"] Ya, this article http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/face-off-street-fighter-iv-article is also according to someone. He's opinion isnt better than mine just because he works for Eurogamer but it also doesnt make my opinion's better either. mmirza23

except that he works for a trustable source and is credible enough to make comparisons. You're just another guy defending the PS3 on SW

Yeah and other reviews have stated the game looks virtually the same

what reviews? where do u pull this **** from?

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#73 EndorphinMaster
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Face it the game is virtually visually identical.
mmirza23

i never said otherwise. You don't need to put words in my mouth to make yourself feel better. or maybe you do

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#74 nervmeister
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[QUOTE="Joust_"][QUOTE="PAL360"]

Of course! Hundreds of games look better on 360 than on PS3 but Killzone2 is the proof that PS3 is superior! "cows" :lol:

ogvampire

If Killzone 2 can have graphics the 360 can't top then that's all you need to say the PS3 is superior graphically.

Of course you'd have to think that KZ2 graphics are the best console graphics to date... Which a lot of people seem to do.

yeah, its amazing what you can do when you develope a game for 4 years!

Too Human, anyone?
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#75 Nonstop-Madness
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[QUOTE="Nonstop-Madness"][QUOTE="EndorphinMaster"]

according to you :roll:

EndorphinMaster

Ya, this article http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/face-off-street-fighter-iv-article is also according to someone. He's opinion isnt better than mine just because he works for Eurogamer but it also doesnt make my opinion's better either.

except that he works for a trustable source and is credible enough to make comparisons. You're just another guy defending the PS3 on SW

Working for a trustable source doesnt really make you trustable.

Just because Im disagreeing you doesnt make a fanboy.

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#76 Bigboi500
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Screw image quality, gameplay is much more important. If I had a PS3 I'd get the game for that system because of the d pad. The d pad on the 360 controller is terrible for fighting games.
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#77 EndorphinMaster
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[QUOTE="ogvampire"][QUOTE="Joust_"]

If Killzone 2 can have graphics the 360 can't top then that's all you need to say the PS3 is superior graphically.

Of course you'd have to think that KZ2 graphics are the best console graphics to date... Which a lot of people seem to do.

nervmeister

yeah, its amazing what you can do when you develope a game for 4 years!

Too Human, anyone?

too human started its development on 360 only in recent years. also, it didn't have a 20 million budget

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#78 ogvampire
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[QUOTE="ogvampire"][QUOTE="Joust_"]

If Killzone 2 can have graphics the 360 can't top then that's all you need to say the PS3 is superior graphically.

Of course you'd have to think that KZ2 graphics are the best console graphics to date... Which a lot of people seem to do.

nervmeister

yeah, its amazing what you can do when you develope a game for 4 years!

Too Human, anyone?

reality, anyone?

difference: too human was supposed to be developed for several different consoles starting with the ps1, unlike kz2.

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#80 EndorphinMaster
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[QUOTE="EndorphinMaster"][QUOTE="Nonstop-Madness"] Ya, this article http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/face-off-street-fighter-iv-article is also according to someone. He's opinion isnt better than mine just because he works for Eurogamer but it also doesnt make my opinion's better either. Nonstop-Madness

except that he works for a trustable source and is credible enough to make comparisons. You're just another guy defending the PS3 on SW

Working for a trustable source doesnt really make you trustable.

Just because Im disagreeing you doesnt make a fanboy.

never said you are. what's your gamertag

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#82 mitu123
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[QUOTE="ogvampire"][QUOTE="Joust_"]

If Killzone 2 can have graphics the 360 can't top then that's all you need to say the PS3 is superior graphically.

Of course you'd have to think that KZ2 graphics are the best console graphics to date... Which a lot of people seem to do.

nervmeister

yeah, its amazing what you can do when you develope a game for 4 years!

Too Human, anyone?

Too Human went from PS1 to N64 to Gamecube to Xbox and finally Xbox 360, the graphics would get better with each console but it wasn't developed on the 360 for a long time, it's like 2-3 years on 360 I think.
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#83 nervmeister
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[QUOTE="nervmeister"][QUOTE="ogvampire"]

yeah, its amazing what you can do when you develope a game for 4 years!

mitu123
Too Human, anyone?

Too Human went from PS1 to N64 to Gamecube to Xbox and finally Xbox 360, the graphics would get better with each console but it wasn't developed on the 360 for a long time, it's like 2-3 years on 360 I think.

Ah! I see. My mistake.
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#84 mitu123
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[QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="nervmeister"]Too Human, anyone?nervmeister
Too Human went from PS1 to N64 to Gamecube to Xbox and finally Xbox 360, the graphics would get better with each console but it wasn't developed on the 360 for a long time, it's like 2-3 years on 360 I think.

Ah! I see. My mistake.

Don't worry, everyone makes mistakes, like this thread when clearly both versions of SF4 look identical to me.
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#85 deactivated-59d151f079814
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I have seen both versions, they are really indistinguishable.. I suppose if your looking at a 40 inch+ screen, a foot away from the screen you may see somewhat of a difference however minscule it may be in the closeups.. And to even complain about load times is ridiculous.. They are insanely quick compared to other games.. The one complaint I do have overall is the Xbox360 owner is basically forced to pay more money to play this game due to the bad dpad.. Thats real lame, and Microsoft hasn't fixed this yet.. And I have to admit, the default ps3 controler isn't very good for it either, when you start playing online agianst other peopel.
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#86 ultraking
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who cares about multiplat graphics, theres always little to no difference.
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#87 Erik_Lensherr
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Screw image quality, gameplay is much more important. If I had a PS3 I'd get the game for that system because of the d pad. The d pad on the 360 controller is terrible for fighting games.Bigboi500

Anyone who uses a PS3 or a 360 controller for a fighting game isn't serious about it anyway so your point is Moot..

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#88 Nolan16
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not to sure what eurogamer is talking about it took me about 8 to 9 seconds without the download when i did get the download for the ps3 version it was about 3 seconds? didn't even notice it loading if you want a crediable source read the ign review they say they are the same.
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#89 Nolan16
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[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]Screw image quality, gameplay is much more important. If I had a PS3 I'd get the game for that system because of the d pad. The d pad on the 360 controller is terrible for fighting games.Erik_Lensherr

Anyone who uses a PS3 or a 360 controller for a fighting game isn't serious about it anyway so your point is Moot..

your kidding right? pros from japan use the DS3 with the directional pads 360s dpads are horrid in comparsion.

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#90 patriots7672
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I've played it on both and there is no difference in any way shape or form. This is a case of the developer liking one system over another and it has nothing to do with performance. However the PS3 controller has a better D-pad and it's easier for me on PS3.

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#91 Bigboi500
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[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]Screw image quality, gameplay is much more important. If I had a PS3 I'd get the game for that system because of the d pad. The d pad on the 360 controller is terrible for fighting games.Erik_Lensherr

Anyone who uses a PS3 or a 360 controller for a fighting game isn't serious about it anyway so your point is Moot..

Yes because people can't play it casually for fun and must strive to be tournament champions to be worshipped by gaming geeks everywhere...it's the law. It's the only way the game can be enjoyed.
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#92 crazy-player
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[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]Screw image quality, gameplay is much more important. If I had a PS3 I'd get the game for that system because of the d pad. The d pad on the 360 controller is terrible for fighting games.Erik_Lensherr

Anyone who uses a PS3 or a 360 controller for a fighting game isn't serious about it anyway so your point is Moot..

It seems you only copy what people say and don't know much yourself, the PS3's gamepad is fine and it is used by pros.
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#93 LibertySaint
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[QUOTE="LibertySaint"]

yeah the 360 verison is suppose to be different according to the devs too, just like cod4 was different on ps3 and 360 when the game is in action.

Heck who here can tell me which system each of these screens are from:

if u can't tell which screen is from which system, stop whining about and just accept they both look good even if one is better then the other....however slightly it may be.

crazy-player

They're both from the PS3 version.

http://media.xbox360.ign.com/media/142/14211549/imgs_5.html

http://ps3.ign.com/dor/objects/14211548/street-fighter-iv/images/street-fighter-iv-20090127113220137.html?page=mediaFull

ign consolidated all their images to on archieve to save space on their servers thats why the link say that.

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#94 PoppaGamer
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I also found this bit interesting: [quote="Eurogamer"]It all comes down to bandwidth - the amount of data that can stream in and out of the graphics chip at any given point. RSX can handle 22GB/s of data, but the 7900GS trumps it with double that. This all suggests that Capcom maximised the strengths of the 7900GS and the lack of bandwidth hurts the PS3 conversion. Transparent textures in particular require a ton of bandwidth. On Xbox 360, this isn't really an issue, most likely due to the 10MB of RAM directly connected to the Xenos graphics chip, which as an effective speed of a staggering 256GB/s.musicalmac
It's interesting hearing it come from a reputable source, and not a random blog.

To hear what? That a game dev'd on one console using its strengths and trying that same development on a console with different hardware gives you a lesser quality product? Yeah, we really needed confirmation on that. Otherwise you're trying to use this as form of proof that PS3 can't do what 360 does. And we know that as false due to the exclusive titles made specifically for the system.
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#95 patriots7672
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When will this kind of utter bologna ever end?! It was stated like 6-7 months ago that developers had come to a point that they would be making multi-plats identical for each system since they all had become completely familiar with the PS3 hardware and how to develope for it. I've read this like 4-5 times on gaming sites. There is extremely little to no difference any more!!!
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#96 one_on_one
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Even though I think you can't go wrong with any version, I'm glad I'll be getting the slightly better version. Also I think the game will be so fun or you would betoo busy getting beat up, that the last thing in your mind would be loading and graphic issues.
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#97 crazy-player
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When will this kind of utter bologna ever end?! It was stated like 6-7 months ago that developers had come to a point that they would be making multi-plats identical for each system since they all had become completely familiar with the PS3 hardware and how to develope for it. I've read this like 4-5 times on gaming sites. There is extremely little to no difference any more!!!patriots7672
The loading times are 2x as much on the PS3 though.
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#98 patriots7672
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[QUOTE="patriots7672"]When will this kind of utter bologna ever end?! It was stated like 6-7 months ago that developers had come to a point that they would be making multi-plats identical for each system since they all had become completely familiar with the PS3 hardware and how to develope for it. I've read this like 4-5 times on gaming sites. There is extremely little to no difference any more!!!crazy-player
The loading times are 2x as much on the PS3 though.

No there's not! There's an initial 2gb install on PS3 that takes like 45 seconds and this makes them the same. That's the only difference other than the PS3s D-pad is a lot better.

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#99 patriots7672
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Actually they're identical, and there's no initial install. I was mistaken I just went and restarted the game on both systems and checked the load times too.
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#100 EndorphinMaster
Member since 2009 • 2118 Posts

When will this kind of utter bologna ever end?! It was stated like 6-7 months ago that developers had come to a point that they would be making multi-plats identical for each system since they all had become completely familiar with the PS3 hardware and how to develope for it. I've read this like 4-5 times on gaming sites. There is extremely little to no difference any more!!!patriots7672

right. you're telling the truth and Eurogamer is lying :lol: