Shame Crysis didn't do nothing innovative, gameplay-wise.

Sure, hyped for its visuals, physics, animations..etc etc, but GAMEPLAY...hardly. Crysis, IMO doesn't do much gameplay wise to stand out from other shooters. I recall many thinking it'll dethrown halo and reinvent shooters, boy were they wrong.

While crysis is good and a lot of that comes from the graphics...theres nothing much else to it.

Games are all about making them simply, fun, addictive, its why Halo works so well, IMO.

thoughts?

I dont think the quick change of energy usage was very old.. Didn't see it in any other game atleast..

(I know many people claim they hardly ever used it.. but myself I switched it all the time.. I Guess Im just too fond of sneaky melee kills..)

The biggest advance for Crysis imo is how well the game ties sandbox and fps (or 3rd if you like) together. The game didn't do all that much to take advantage of that - multiple routes were there but they could have been done better. Using console commands, or Sandbox editor, or mods - you can begin to realise what an accomplishment this game have been. The biggest downer however is the steep requirements when you are trying to pull of big 'physics-effect' other than that, the freedom, visuals and basic 'messing around' is as fun as Goldeneye with cheats turned on back in the N64 days.

Sure, hyped for its visuals, physics, animations..etc etc, but GAMEPLAY...hardly. Crysis, IMO doesn't do much gameplay wise to stand out from other shooters. I recall many thinking it'll dethrown halo and reinvent shooters, boy were they wrong.

While crysis is good and a lot of that comes from the graphics...theres nothing much else to it.

Games are all about making them simply, fun, addictive, its why Halo works so well, IMO.

thoughts?

cool_guy2000

Halo had a thrown now? pfft maybe as one of the most overrated games of all time (bar online to an extent)

you cannot play Crysis like a typical shooter at all or dont experience the true brilliance of it after playing it for only 3 hours i am completely addicted to it i have even started a seperate bank account for rasing money to upgrade my PC to a point that i can play it comfortably. . .

Crysis is both fun and extremely addictive actually more fun than addictive =]

btw you sound like you havnt even played it

[QUOTE="cool_guy2000"]

Sure, hyped for its visuals, physics, animations..etc etc, but GAMEPLAY...hardly. Crysis, IMO doesn't do much gameplay wise to stand out from other shooters. I recall many thinking it'll dethrown halo and reinvent shooters, boy were they wrong.

While crysis is good and a lot of that comes from the graphics...theres nothing much else to it.

Games are all about making them simply, fun, addictive, its why Halo works so well, IMO.

thoughts?

big_smoke_666

Halo had a thrown now? pfft maybe as one of the most overrated games of all time (bar online to an extent)

you cannot play Crysis like a typical shooter at all or dont experience the true brilliance of it after playing it for only 3 hours i am completely addicted to it i have even started a seperate bank account for rasing money to upgrade my PC to a point that i can play it comfortably. . .

Crysis is both fun and extremely addictive actually more fun than addictive =]

btw you sound like you havnt even played it

Sales disagree with you, buddy...the gameplay ISN'T as fun as Halo's and isn't as addictive...its gotta be more than just fancy graphics to get that thrown.

i didnt like crysis that much...it was ok, maybe it was cuz i could only run it in mid-high graphics ..which is still very good graphics

...the story was ehhh kinda wierd lol koreans -->aliens O.O

gameplay was ok nothing AWESOME O:IAJ#RA(*OIU#HE(

id give it a 8.5

crysis is brilliant, but with all sandbox games, it depends what you put in. play it like a normal shooter and you get bored. play on a difficulty thats just right, get creative and the game is one of the best fps ever made.

but honestly some one here give an example of a fps that has been innovative in the past few years. the only one i can think of is portal, but its not what you call a shooter.

so far i have played 20 hours of crysis excluding the single player. thats 20 hours of playing custom maps and MP. so as far as i am concerned it met the hype and more, and loads of people agree with me.

[QUOTE="big_smoke_666"][QUOTE="cool_guy2000"]

Sure, hyped for its visuals, physics, animations..etc etc, but GAMEPLAY...hardly. Crysis, IMO doesn't do much gameplay wise to stand out from other shooters. I recall many thinking it'll dethrown halo and reinvent shooters, boy were they wrong.

While crysis is good and a lot of that comes from the graphics...theres nothing much else to it.

Games are all about making them simply, fun, addictive, its why Halo works so well, IMO.

thoughts?

cool_guy2000

Halo had a thrown now? pfft maybe as one of the most overrated games of all time (bar online to an extent)

you cannot play Crysis like a typical shooter at all or dont experience the true brilliance of it after playing it for only 3 hours i am completely addicted to it i have even started a seperate bank account for rasing money to upgrade my PC to a point that i can play it comfortably. . .

Crysis is both fun and extremely addictive actually more fun than addictive =]

btw you sound like you havnt even played it

Sales disagree with you, buddy...the gameplay ISN'T as fun as Halo's and isn't as addictive...its gotta be more than just fancy graphics to get that thrown.

Sure, hyped for its visuals, physics, animations..etc etc, but GAMEPLAY...hardly. Crysis, IMO doesn't do much gameplay wise to stand out from other shooters. I recall many thinking it'll dethrown halo and reinvent shooters, boy were they wrong.

While crysis is good and a lot of that comes from the graphics...theres nothing much else to it.

Games are all about making them simply, fun, addictive, its why Halo works so well, IMO.

thoughts?

cool_guy2000

Halo didn't do anything to me, graphic and gameplay wise.

I hate when people throw around the word innovation.

The only game that has innovated is Portal in the last 5 years.

I hate when people throw around the word innovation.

The only game that has innovated is Portal in the last 5 years.

II-FBIsniper-II

and world in conflict for its mp

Sure, hyped for its visuals, physics, animations..etc etc, but GAMEPLAY...hardly. Crysis, IMO doesn't do much gameplay wise to stand out from other shooters. I recall many thinking it'll dethrown halo and reinvent shooters, boy were they wrong.

While crysis is good and a lot of that comes from the graphics...theres nothing much else to it.

Games are all about making them simply, fun, addictive, its why Halo works so well, IMO.

thoughts?

cool_guy2000

Halo CE was a great game and provided an excellent experience in video game entertainment. It pulled this off because it was designed very well and had diversity in gameplay (vehicles) and high in production values. Level design was excellent (some repetition towards the end) and was complimented with great AI and wonderful characters throughout. The sound and score are memorable as well.

Overall it was a tight package that fortunately utilized a few weapons that were implemented perfectly: High quality as opposed to quantity.

Crysis is superb as well and builds upon Halo in a way. Crysis does indeed have spectacular visuals, something Halo did not, but it also has excellent AI, fantastic level design, high production value, sound, and excellent characters. Discounting the game as a visual demo for the engine is ridiculous. If you look under the cover of Crysis (Sandbox 2) and peer into the level design, AI nodes, and overall presentation, you might change your false assumption of a game you probably didn't play.

Both Halo and Crysis suffered towards the end of the game. Halo had repetitious levels that were sparsely accomodated. Crysis performed a 180 onto itself and immersed you in a poorly implemented alien invasion story. Certainly a more realistic progression in the last 1/3rd of the game should of been utilized. Even still, Crysis provided one of the greatest SP gameplay experiences based simply off of the level design, AI, physics and sound.

Since when did Halo ever have to be dethroned.........

Oh, and Shooter GOTY 07. You fail!

Nanosuit

Nuff said.

And Halo was never atop of ANY throne

Crysis - 9.5 and FPS GOTY07. Nuff said

Nanosuit

Nuff said.

And Halo was never atop of ANY throne

skrat_01

Nano suit isn't nuff said. Please elaborate. Deus Ex from 2000 had ALL the powers from Crysis + more.

[QUOTE="skrat_01"]

Nanosuit

Nuff said.

And Halo was never atop of ANY throne

Drukter

Nano suit isn't nuff said. Please elaborate. Deus Ex from 2000 had ALL the powers from Crysis + more.

Example - Strength in Deus Ex didnt work anywhere like in Crysis - you could eventually pick up heavy objects, not people, nor could you leap across buildings ect.

Besides Deus Ex was an RPG just as much as FPS - hell morseso.

The Nanosuit intergrates 4 abilities, that have a much more drastic change on combat than Deus Ex - which forced you to focus in a specific area of abilites, rather than give you a set broad range - as it contradicts the RPG design system.

Crysis is innovative in scale, and design choices. Having huge open maps, fully destructible enviroment, and interactable enviroment, and superhuman abilities - and dynamic a.i to make the most of it - no game has ever reached this.

[QUOTE="skrat_01"]

Nanosuit

Nuff said.

And Halo was never atop of ANY throne

Drukter

Nano suit isn't nuff said. Please elaborate. Deus Ex from 2000 had ALL the powers from Crysis + more.

Sure, ok, but one thing Deus Ex didn't have was large open environments where you can put all of those powers to use in countless ways.

[QUOTE="skrat_01"]

Nanosuit

Nuff said.

And Halo was never atop of ANY throne

Drukter

Nano suit isn't nuff said. Please elaborate. Deus Ex from 2000 had ALL the powers from Crysis + more.

I preferred to play Crysis without the Nanosuit (on Delta mode). You really don't need it, though I'm sure it allows for entertaining diversions. None of the rock jumps require the Strength attribute, and the game is incredibly challenging without any of the other modes too. The only one that is good (IMHO), is the shielding capabilities. It is neat to use the camo, but it seems like cheating.

The game is brutally entertaining without any technological powers. An additional challenge is to turn off the dialog. What this does is shut you out of the story (allows you to make up your own, more plausible and imaginative backstory) and you never hear the Koreans, so you don't know where they are when they use jungle cover. Excellent indeed! You take them all on equal footing. This provides some of the best gameplay I have ever experienced. Oh yeah, and only rely on the autosave checkpoints. Kick ass!

GAMES DO NOT NEED TO INNOVATIVE TO BE GOOD. seriously why does everyone think this? gears, halo, mass effect, R&C, uncharted and so many other great games last year didn't innovative at all but no one denies they are great gamesRagashahs

Halo did innovate. What other console game has a fileshare/map editor/moviemaker?

[QUOTE="Ragashahs"]GAMES DO NOT NEED TO INNOVATIVE TO BE GOOD. seriously why does everyone think this? gears, halo, mass effect, R&C, uncharted and so many other great games last year didn't innovative at all but no one denies they are great gamesTMontana1004

Halo did innovate. What other console game has a fileshare/map editor/moviemaker?

If you're talking console games only yes..... but for FPSs in general Halo 3 did nothing.

Can you name me a recent FPS thats innovative?Lonelynight

Is Portal an FPS?

The biggest advance for Crysis imo is how well the game ties sandbox and fps (or 3rd if you like) together. The game didn't do all that much to take advantage of that - multiple routes were there but they could have been done better. Using console commands, or Sandbox editor, or mods - you can begin to realise what an accomplishment this game have been. The biggest downer however is the steep requirements when you are trying to pull of big 'physics-effect' other than that, the freedom, visuals and basic 'messing around' is as fun as Goldeneye with cheats turned on back in the N64 days.

Pangster007

This person speaks the truth.

Sure, hyped for its visuals, physics, animations..etc etc, but GAMEPLAY...hardly. Crysis, IMO doesn't do much gameplay wise to stand out from other shooters. I recall many thinking it'll dethrown halo and reinvent shooters, boy were they wrong.

While crysis is good and a lot of that comes from the graphics...theres nothing much else to it.

Games are all about making them simply, fun, addictive, its why Halo works so well, IMO.

thoughts?

cool_guy2000

[QUOTE="TMontana1004"]

[QUOTE="Ragashahs"]GAMES DO NOT NEED TO INNOVATIVE TO BE GOOD. seriously why does everyone think this? gears, halo, mass effect, R&C, uncharted and so many other great games last year didn't innovative at all but no one denies they are great gamesaliblabla2007

Halo did innovate. What other console game has a fileshare/map editor/moviemaker?

If you're talking console games only yes..... but for FPSs in general Halo 3 did nothing.

No, I am pretty sure that is a huge innovation for FPS's.

[QUOTE="aliblabla2007"][QUOTE="TMontana1004"]

[QUOTE="Ragashahs"]GAMES DO NOT NEED TO INNOVATIVE TO BE GOOD. seriously why does everyone think this? gears, halo, mass effect, R&C, uncharted and so many other great games last year didn't innovative at all but no one denies they are great gamesTMontana1004

Halo did innovate. What other console game has a fileshare/map editor/moviemaker?

If you're talking console games only yes..... but for FPSs in general Halo 3 did nothing.

No, I am pretty sure that is a huge innovation for FPS's.

Depends on how you look at it.

[QUOTE="Lonelynight"]Can you name me a recent FPS thats innovative?aliblabla2007

Is Portal an FPS?

Don't no, but I think it is since you shoot stuff out with a gun

[QUOTE="TMontana1004"][QUOTE="aliblabla2007"][QUOTE="TMontana1004"]

[QUOTE="Ragashahs"]GAMES DO NOT NEED TO INNOVATIVE TO BE GOOD. seriously why does everyone think this? gears, halo, mass effect, R&C, uncharted and so many other great games last year didn't innovative at all but no one denies they are great gamesaliblabla2007

Halo did innovate. What other console game has a fileshare/map editor/moviemaker?

If you're talking console games only yes..... but for FPSs in general Halo 3 did nothing.

No, I am pretty sure that is a huge innovation for FPS's.

Depends on how you look at it.

You can looks at it like this: eventually every developer will put this in their FPS. Halo 3 started it all.

You can looks at it like this: eventually every developer will put this in their FPS. Halo 3 started it all.

TMontana1004

OK then, I have to agree with you.

[QUOTE="aliblabla2007"][QUOTE="TMontana1004"]

[QUOTE="Ragashahs"]GAMES DO NOT NEED TO INNOVATIVE TO BE GOOD. seriously why does everyone think this? gears, halo, mass effect, R&C, uncharted and so many other great games last year didn't innovative at all but no one denies they are great gamesTMontana1004

Halo did innovate. What other console game has a fileshare/map editor/moviemaker?

If you're talking console games only yes..... but for FPSs in general Halo 3 did nothing.

No, I am pretty sure that is a huge innovation for FPS's.

Not the file sharing and map making. Hell, even the movie maker isn't a huge innovation, considering computers had Fraps, and other movie making programs...

It's an innovation for consoles, but definitely not on PC.

[QUOTE="II-FBIsniper-II"]

I hate when people throw around the word innovation.

The only game that has innovated is Portal in the last 5 years.

crozon

and world in conflict for its mp

Nope plenty of games, in the last 5 years.

[QUOTE="TMontana1004"][QUOTE="aliblabla2007"][QUOTE="TMontana1004"]

[QUOTE="Ragashahs"]GAMES DO NOT NEED TO INNOVATIVE TO BE GOOD. seriously why does everyone think this? gears, halo, mass effect, R&C, uncharted and so many other great games last year didn't innovative at all but no one denies they are great gamesDragonfireXZ95

Halo did innovate. What other console game has a fileshare/map editor/moviemaker?

If you're talking console games only yes..... but for FPSs in general Halo 3 did nothing.

No, I am pretty sure that is a huge innovation for FPS's.

Not the file sharing and map making. Hell, even the movie maker isn't a huge innovation, considering computers had Fraps, and other movie making programs...

It's an innovation for consoles, but definitely not on PC.

Hell there were others before it.

And in Halo 3 you cant even make maps....... Not to mention Far Cry Instincts had a proper mad editor, and downloadable maps far before it.

Most shooters are becoming carbon copies of shooters more and more. Hopefully this year someone steps up and takes it into antoher direction.

Dethrown Halo? What pedestal is Halo on? Most sales? That's it,halo does nothing innovative.

Read the killing box article in this months issue of PC gamer. He explains the 5 things that make Crysis unique and concludes by saying it's the best shooter ever. One of those 5 things is graphics,the other 5 are all gameplay related.

Sure, hyped for its visuals, physics, animations..etc etc, but GAMEPLAY...hardly. Crysis, IMO doesn't do much gameplay wise to stand out from other shooters. I recall many thinking it'll dethrown halo and reinvent shooters, boy were they wrong.

While crysis is good and a lot of that comes from the graphics...theres nothing much else to it.

Games are all about making them simply, fun, addictive, its why Halo works so well, IMO.

thoughts?

cool_guy2000

Innovative, no...... Fun, yes. Everything you can do in Crysis has been done seperatly. (i.e. Powers, semi-free roam, gun customization, etc.) But hey, they guy who invented sliced bread didn't invent bread, or slicing. He just stuck two things that worked together and look at the mad props he gets. All there great features when blended together don't really shatter any barriers or blaze any new trails, but it's fun to play. Remember fun?

(Zero-G level sucks though. :evil: )

I have 6 friends who are really into gaming. Only one of them can actually run Crysis on high settings,the other 5 can't even run it at all. I notice that my friend who runs it on high loves it and praises it,yet my friends who can't play it at all always insult it and say it does nothing good.

Notice a pattern? I find it's the same thing on these forums. You can't run it,you bash it. No game before Crysis has used the suit energy system,I'd call that innovative. Until you see this game running at high setting with 60FPS,you haven't truly experienced Crysis.

Sure, hyped for its visuals, physics, animations..etc etc, but GAMEPLAY...hardly. Crysis, IMO doesn't do much gameplay wise to stand out from other shooters. I recall many thinking it'll dethrown halo and reinvent shooters, boy were they wrong.

While crysis is good and a lot of that comes from the graphics...theres nothing much else to it.

Games are all about making them simply, fun, addictive, its why Halo works so well, IMO.

thoughts?

cool_guy2000

Halo never had the throne to begin with, so there was no need for it to be de-throned. What was the shooter of the year for 2007 again?