Shame Crysis didn't do nothing innovative, gameplay-wise.

GAMES DO NOT NEED TO INNOVATIVE TO BE GOOD. seriously why does everyone think this? gears, halo, mass effect, R&C, uncharted and so many other great games last year didn't innovative at all but no one denies they are great gamesRagashahs

I know... games can be the same and still be very good.

[QUOTE="Bgrngod"]

Man, you guys need to get the idea out of your head that Crysis is a sandbox game. That is totally NOT true at all. It ridiculously linear.

bignice12

Ridiculously linear? lol now that is COD4. Crysis offers more freedom than most games out there, it is truly a sandbox game. Yes the SP campaign they have to provide borders to make sure you stay on the story but there are many options you can take. Only the later parts of the game become linear.

Not to mention there are a couple of user made maps that have a whole island populated with no objectives, you just go wherever you want and kill stuff(called island of doom, real fun map)

You clearly have no clue what a sandbox game is. Just because you have a few choices about how to get to "point B" does not make it sandbox. If that is the case then Splinter Cell is a sandbox game too, as well as Mario Bros.

GAMES DO NOT NEED TO INNOVATIVE TO BE GOOD. seriously why does everyone think this? gears, halo, mass effect, R&C, uncharted and so many other great games last year didn't innovative at all but no one denies they are great gamesRagashahs

Gears had the awesome cover system, but other than that you're right.

How in the HELL are people getting the idea Crysis is a sanbox game? Verge_6

because they 1: played it or 2: readed about the game before coming here.

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"][QUOTE="TMontana1004"]

You can looks at it like this: eventually every developer will put this in their FPS. Halo 3 started it all.

HuusAsking

that's not being inovative, that's being influential. It would be like calling original Command and Conquer innovative because it started the whole RTS mania( despite numerous RTSes being made before it, the mass production of them didn't start untill CnC)

nope, it just presented very polished version of the formula and most of all sold like crazy.

[QUOTE="Verge_6"]How in the HELL are people getting the idea Crysis is a sanbox game? Franko_3

because they 1: played it or 2: readed about the game before coming here.

I OWN the damned game, and I don't know where people are getting this notion. Having a few optional paths does not make a game a sandbox...

[QUOTE="HuusAsking"][QUOTE="AdrianWerner"][QUOTE="TMontana1004"]

You can looks at it like this: eventually every developer will put this in their FPS. Halo 3 started it all.

skrat_01

that's not being inovative, that's being influential. It would be like calling original Command and Conquer innovative because it started the whole RTS mania( despite numerous RTSes being made before it, the mass production of them didn't start untill CnC)

FPS genre wasn't thriving on consoles though. Halo did for console FPSes what CnC did for RTSes.

GAMES DO NOT NEED TO INNOVATIVE TO BE GOOD. seriously why does everyone think this? gears, halo, mass effect, R&C, uncharted and so many other great games last year didn't innovative at all but no one denies they are great gamesRagashahs

Chainsaw... innovative..... enough...... to satisfy.............

I AGREE PLUS PS3 CAN RUN CRYSIS!!!!!!

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26171747

I AGREE PLUS PS3 CAN RUN CRYSIS!!!!!!

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26171747

DBoCaRnAgE

sure it can, on medium settings that is.

[QUOTE="Ragashahs"]GAMES DO NOT NEED TO INNOVATIVE TO BE GOOD. seriously why does everyone think this? gears, halo, mass effect, R&C, uncharted and so many other great games last year didn't innovative at all but no one denies they are great gamesKhanezhyray

Chainsaw... innovative..... enough...... to satisfy.............

Chainsaw...?

More like 'Chainsaw Bayonet.'

:D

I AGREE PLUS PS3 CAN RUN CRYSIS!!!!!!

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26171747

DBoCaRnAgE

Another bad port from ubi... comon already!

[QUOTE="HuusAsking"][QUOTE="AdrianWerner"][QUOTE="TMontana1004"]

You can looks at it like this: eventually every developer will put this in their FPS. Halo 3 started it all.

AdrianWerner

that's not being inovative, that's being influential. It would be like calling original Command and Conquer innovative because it started the whole RTS mania( despite numerous RTSes being made before it, the mass production of them didn't start untill CnC)

nope, it just presented very polished version of the formula and most of all sold like crazy.

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"][QUOTE="HuusAsking"][QUOTE="AdrianWerner"][QUOTE="TMontana1004"]

You can looks at it like this: eventually every developer will put this in their FPS. Halo 3 started it all.

HuusAsking

that's not being inovative, that's being influential. It would be like calling original Command and Conquer innovative because it started the whole RTS mania( despite numerous RTSes being made before it, the mass production of them didn't start untill CnC)

nope, it just presented very polished version of the formula and most of all sold like crazy.

hype and great reviews.It simply was a great game, not really innovative, but polished and insanely playable

[QUOTE="imprezawrx500"]

[QUOTE="RonnieLottinSF"]Crysis was overrated big time. Strip the nice graphics away and you got your basic run of the mill FPS game. It was a show off game for the new engine. Nothing more, nothing less. The MP was pathetic and the SP was average. I still can't believe it got a 9.5 here.Bgrngod

not true, you still have the main features of crysis nano suit and sandbox gameplay, no console fps does either and aside from crytek, stalker is about the only other sandbox fps.

comparing crysis to a run of the mile fps is like comparing gta sa to driver 3 or true crime

Man, you guys need to get the idea out of your head that Crysis is a sandbox game. That is totally NOT true at all. It ridiculously linear.

What is CoD 4?

[QUOTE="Franko_3"]

[QUOTE="Verge_6"]How in the HELL are people getting the idea Crysis is a sanbox game? Verge_6

because they 1: played it or 2: readed about the game before coming here.

I OWN the damned game, and I don't know where people are getting this notion. Having a few optional paths does not make a game a sandbox...

Ya its not a sandbox game, its a non linear FPS, and sandbox game would be like GTA, but Crysis can also become a sandbox game with the map editor

[QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="Franko_3"]

[QUOTE="Verge_6"]How in the HELL are people getting the idea Crysis is a sanbox game? Lonelynight

because they 1: played it or 2: readed about the game before coming here.

I OWN the damned game, and I don't know where people are getting this notion. Having a few optional paths does not make a game a sandbox...

Ya its not a sandbox game, its a non linear FPS, and sandbox game would be like GTA, but Crysis can also become a sandbox game with the map editor

Sure, hyped for its visuals, physics, animations..etc etc, but GAMEPLAY...hardly. Crysis, IMO doesn't do much gameplay wise to stand out from other shooters. I recall many thinking it'll dethrown halo and reinvent shooters, boy were they wrong.

While crysis is good and a lot of that comes from the graphics...theres nothing much else to it.

Games are all about making them simply, fun, addictive, its why Halo works so well, IMO.

thoughts?

cool_guy2000

GTA is a linear adventure. It has a linear plot, after all (and a single ending in all the GTA games I've seen). A true sandbox would have either numerous end paths or none at all.HuusAsking

Ya, GTA is pretty linear, but it is a sandbox game, I also find Oblivion to be very linear

[QUOTE="HuusAsking"]GTA is a linear adventure. It has a linear plot, after all (and a single ending in all the GTA games I've seen). A true sandbox would have either numerous end paths or none at all.Lonelynight

Ya, GTA is pretty linear, but it is a sandbox game, I also find Oblivion to be very linear

The biggest advance for Crysis imo is how well the game ties sandbox and fps (or 3rd if you like) together. The game didn't do all that much to take advantage of that - multiple routes were there but they could have been done better. Using console commands, or Sandbox editor, or mods - you can begin to realise what an accomplishment this game have been. The biggest downer however is the steep requirements when you are trying to pull of big 'physics-effect' other than that, the freedom, visuals and basic 'messing around' is as fun as Goldeneye with cheats turned on back in the N64 days.

Pangster007

Um farcry (PC) and OPF (pc) OPf is better in many ways cause its from 2001 and has multiple maps.

Double negative FTL. :?

Double negative FTL. :?

Teufelhuhn

[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]

Double negative FTL. :?

Heil68

Wow, I'm suprised so many people feel the same way I do about the game.

As I said earler, tone down the visuals to about medium settings, and you will be significantly less impressed. That's not to say it isn't fun, mind you. I just think the jaw-dropping visuals have jaded alot of people.

TC obviously hasn't played Crysis.

To the TC: Go and play Crysis and then you can come back and tell us just how wrong you were.

Sry but Crysis is not innovative and the nano suit is just a new way to use powers in a game. But that doesn't stop the game from being sweet and halo is sweet too so cod4 and UT did and the closest thing to innovation out of all those games was Rocket Race?? donnothe1stfandb

Wow, just wow.

Sure, hyped for its visuals, physics, animations..etc etc, but GAMEPLAY...hardly. Crysis, IMO doesn't do much gameplay wise to stand out from other shooters. I recall many thinking it'll dethrown halo and reinvent shooters, boy were they wrong.

While crysis is good and a lot of that comes from the graphics...theres nothing much else to it.

Games are all about making them simply, fun, addictive, its why Halo works so well, IMO.

thoughts?

cool_guy2000

maybe i missed something, but what new and innovative ideas did halo bring?

Crysis was overrated big time. Strip the nice graphics away and you got your basic run of the mill FPS game. It was a show off game for the new engine. Nothing more, nothing less. The MP was pathetic and the SP was average. I still can't believe it got a 9.5 here.RonnieLottinSF

that pretty much how i feel about "perfect dark & halo", well besides the fact that the graphics werent too good.

[QUOTE="cool_guy2000"]

Sure, hyped for its visuals, physics, animations..etc etc, but GAMEPLAY...hardly. Crysis, IMO doesn't do much gameplay wise to stand out from other shooters. I recall many thinking it'll dethrown halo and reinvent shooters, boy were they wrong.

While crysis is good and a lot of that comes from the graphics...theres nothing much else to it.

Games are all about making them simply, fun, addictive, its why Halo works so well, IMO.

thoughts?

bizzy420

maybe i missed something, but what new and innovative ideas did halo bring?

[QUOTE="cool_guy2000"]

Sure, hyped for its visuals, physics, animations..etc etc, but GAMEPLAY...hardly. Crysis, IMO doesn't do much gameplay wise to stand out from other shooters. I recall many thinking it'll dethrown halo and reinvent shooters, boy were they wrong.

While crysis is good and a lot of that comes from the graphics...theres nothing much else to it.

Games are all about making them simply, fun, addictive, its why Halo works so well, IMO.

thoughts?

bizzy420

maybe i missed something, but what new and innovative ideas did halo bring?

didn't other games copy halo's health system?

didn't other games copy halo's melee attack system?

didn't other game developers try to own halo's multiplayer mode? (they finally did with COD4)

[QUOTE="bizzy420"][QUOTE="cool_guy2000"]

Sure, hyped for its visuals, physics, animations..etc etc, but GAMEPLAY...hardly. Crysis, IMO doesn't do much gameplay wise to stand out from other shooters. I recall many thinking it'll dethrown halo and reinvent shooters, boy were they wrong.

While crysis is good and a lot of that comes from the graphics...theres nothing much else to it.

Games are all about making them simply, fun, addictive, its why Halo works so well, IMO.

thoughts?

50shot

maybe i missed something, but what new and innovative ideas did halo bring?

didn't other games copy halo's health system?

didn't other games copy halo's melee attack system?

didn't other game developers try to own halo's multiplayer mode? (they finally did with COD4)

ummm do you play PC games?? all these have been done before on pc games.

i understand what HALO did for CONSOLE gamers, but PC gamers have had online multiplayer games for the last 15 years, pc gamers have been playing games in HD for the last 10 years.

i dont mean no dinky 8 vs 8 either, some games can have 32 vs 32 battles.

[QUOTE="bizzy420"][QUOTE="cool_guy2000"]

Sure, hyped for its visuals, physics, animations..etc etc, but GAMEPLAY...hardly. Crysis, IMO doesn't do much gameplay wise to stand out from other shooters. I recall many thinking it'll dethrown halo and reinvent shooters, boy were they wrong.

While crysis is good and a lot of that comes from the graphics...theres nothing much else to it.

Games are all about making them simply, fun, addictive, its why Halo works so well, IMO.

thoughts?

50shot

maybe i missed something, but what new and innovative ideas did halo bring?

didn't other games copy halo's health system?

didn't other games copy halo's melee attack system?

didn't other game developers try to own halo's multiplayer mode? (they finally did with COD4)

I like how they copied Halo's melee, I hate the regenerating system in most FPSes. But MP? I mean...what the hell are you talking about? It was derivative and unoriginal. It bassicaly played like very slow and simplified version of Tribes2

You obviously haven't played Crysis, and if you did, i guess you just tried to play it as your standard run and gun shooter *cough*halo*cough*. Crysis is all about having fun and playin with your creativity. Honestly I don't remember how many hours i put on the SP demo of it. Really loved it.astor47

Same here.I play crysis on low because thats all our computer can handle without the game being a slide show. I love the game because it requires thinking. How long is the game?

GRAPHICS GRAPHICS GRAPHICS GRAPHICS GRAPHICS GRAPHICS GRAPHICS GRAPHICS GRAPHICS GRAPHICS GRAPHIC GRPHICS GRAPHICS GRAPHICS GRAPHICS GRAPHICS GRAPHICS GRAPHICS GRAPHICS GRAPHICS GRAPHICS GRAPHICS.

HARCORE LOVE GRAPHICS MARRY GRAPHICS AND HUMP GRAPHICS.

Ok the its gameplay isn't breaking any walls but why fix something that isn't broken it works it quite a good game so and quite fun to play and the AI is quite good they flank call in renforcements throw grenades. Great fun.

Crysis wasn't made for pcs today they wanted to make a game that would be trying to break the hardware of our computers trying to get us to advance faster.

ummm do you play PC games?? all these have been done before on pc games.

bizzy420

Ok the its gameplay isn't breaking any walls but why fix something that isn't broken it works it quite a good game so and quite fun to play and the AI is quite good they flank call in renforcements throw grenades. Great fun.

Crysis wasn't made for pcs today they wanted to make a game that would be trying to break the hardware of our computers trying to get us to advance faster.

Poshkidney

I don't think any truly huge innovations will occur in the FPS genre ever again honestly. Most of what can be done has been done, and I think that fps games of the future will just keep refinining the fundamentals and including smaller but still enjoyable innovations. And when I think about it, that's exactly what crysis has done. It's refined the fps genre further, in the way of physics, graphics, AI (though sometimes the AI is amazingly stupid), world design, and overall cinematic action in first person shooters.

But it has also introduced the nano suit, which I believe is an innovation on par with the gravity gun and physics in hl2. The nano suit opened up a lot of freedom and allowed many ways for the player to express this freedom however they should choose. It also increased the overall dynamic gameplay of the game, and it's the dynamic aspects, cinematic aspects and overall feeling of freedom that this game creates that I feel, at least for me, has set the benchmark for future fps's to aspire too.

[QUOTE="Poshkidney"]

Ok the its gameplay isn't breaking any walls but why fix something that isn't broken it works it quite a good game so and quite fun to play and the AI is quite good they flank call in renforcements throw grenades. Great fun.

Crysis wasn't made for pcs today they wanted to make a game that would be trying to break the hardware of our computers trying to get us to advance faster.

HuusAsking

THe AI is good it only knows as much as the programmer Ai here can't cheat the only machine to do anything close that was that chess playing robot i'ts still good and they did try firing into the buildings at viehcles ok its not perfect but what is your just nit picking at it.