Sheep logic=Flawed.

  • 125 results
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3

This topic is locked from further discussion.

Avatar image for Ninten007
Ninten007

3129

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#1 Ninten007
Member since 2005 • 3129 Posts

Last gen with the GC, they said it is all about the quality of the games. Look the PS2 and Xbox are only for casuals who cant take gaming seriously and have a lot of crap on their systems. LOLZ !!! The GC is for the more serious and hardcore gamer and we get the uber quality games, LOL at PS2 and Xbox games selling like crazy appealing to idiot casuals, Ha ha ha!! We get teh Metroids, Marios, Zeldas, and games with true gameplayz, LOL at PS2 and Xbox getting teh crappy movie spinoffs, 50 Cent Bulletproof, GTA, sports gamez.......

Now with the Wii it is a complete reversal, and a lot of crap is spewing out of the system and sheep act like its the best thing ever while bashing the 360 and PS3 for it being hardcore? So this time they are getting loads of crap games instead of good quality games.

Sense the hypocritism? You just do whatever Nintendo tells you. If Nintendo says graphics and the quality of the games are the most important, you all bow down to them, If they say you need 64-graphics with waggle gameplay and half-arsed games, then you bow down.

Avatar image for foxhound_fox
foxhound_fox

98532

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 13

User Lists: 0

#2 foxhound_fox
Member since 2005 • 98532 Posts
Cows:

last-gen: gameplay>graphics

this-gen: graphics>gameplay
Avatar image for SpaceDragonMan
SpaceDragonMan

1502

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#3 SpaceDragonMan
Member since 2007 • 1502 Posts
Sheep have gotten way to arrogant and protective since E3 2006...
Avatar image for Oroin
Oroin

3041

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#4 Oroin
Member since 2006 • 3041 Posts
IMO- all fanboys logic is flawed. 
Avatar image for mattbbpl
mattbbpl

23353

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#5 mattbbpl
Member since 2006 • 23353 Posts
I'm confused. The Wii does have a lot of crap - just like the PS2 did. It comes with the territory of high sales. However, the Wii still has those games you mentioned - Metroid, Mario, Zelda, etc. It will likely still have just as many, if not more, good games as the Gamecube. It's just that a lot of garbage will exist as well.
Avatar image for ithilgore2006
ithilgore2006

10494

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 6

User Lists: 0

#6 ithilgore2006
Member since 2006 • 10494 Posts
Oh please, you only make yourself look stupid when you make a thread liek this. Have you not noticed how cows have gone from saying graphics aren't important and sales matter to saying it's all about graphics and that sales mean nothing? Of course, you have, but you were hoping to bash the sheep only, since you're anti-Nintendo, so you thought you'd leave that part out, and hoped no one would notice. Well, everyone will notice, and everyone already knows that all fanboys are hypocrites, and we don't need you to try and paint a one sided picture of it.
Avatar image for Maelkav
Maelkav

399

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#7 Maelkav
Member since 2007 • 399 Posts

Everyone defends their own console. You know why?

I'd wager it's because everyone ENJOYS their own console.

So, when you tell Wii owners "The Wii sucks"and "The Wii is not fun at all", they look at themselves and wonder, "Then what the hell have I been enjoying these past few months? I'm having lots of fun." In response to that - of course - people cry "casual".

Same goes for PS3 cows. Yeah, some people didn't like the low # of PS3 launch titles, but they bought it anyways? You know why? Because they enjoyed it. They wouldn't have bought it if it had NO games. PS3 obviously has SOME games. But now (just like when the 360 came out), people are bashing it because it "doesn't have enough games"....Pfffft. If a PS3 owner is satisfied, then that's fine with me. I don't need to bash his system to make myself feel better.

Avatar image for MikeE21286
MikeE21286

10405

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#8 MikeE21286
Member since 2003 • 10405 Posts

Please......ALL Fanboy logic is just a matter of convenience at the time....

 

PS3: no rumble......now YAY rumble

360: no HDMI or large HDD......now Elite 360 (with hdmi and large HDD)

Sheep: GC for the hardcore gamers.....now Wii is for grandmas,grandpas,mom,dad, etc.

Avatar image for Ninten007
Ninten007

3129

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#9 Ninten007
Member since 2005 • 3129 Posts

Cows:

last-gen: gameplay>graphics

this-gen: graphics>gameplay
foxhound_fox

Thats not true. The PS2 was graphically capable of going up against the more powerful GC and Xbox. Look at such games as MGS 3, God of War, Star Wars Battlefront, RE 4? Point was that the PS2 was quite on the same level as the other systems.

The Wii is not on the same level as the more powerful consoles. Actually right now the gameplay on the Wii sucks compared to the 360 and PS3.

And 1 more thing, graphics do matter and help enhance gameplay. If you dont believe this statement, we should still be playing on SNES graphics. And if graphics dont matter, why did Nintendo make the Wii a little more powerful than GC?

Avatar image for Ryeferd
Ryeferd

5198

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#10 Ryeferd
Member since 2006 • 5198 Posts

IMO- all fanboys logic is flawed. Oroin

yep. Fanboyism = mental illness. 

Avatar image for Zhengi
Zhengi

8479

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#11 Zhengi
Member since 2006 • 8479 Posts
Cows:

last-gen: gameplay>graphics

this-gen: graphics>gameplay
foxhound_fox
That's pretty much how it has turned out. A reversal of roles by everyone :P
Avatar image for foxhound_fox
foxhound_fox

98532

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 13

User Lists: 0

#12 foxhound_fox
Member since 2005 • 98532 Posts
Thats not true. The PS2 was graphically capable of going up against the more powerful GC and Xbox. Look at such games as MGS 3, God of War, Star Wars Battlefront, RE 4? Point was that the PS2 was quite on the same level as the other systems.

The Wii is not on the same level as the more powerful consoles. Actually right now the gameplay on the Wii sucks compared to the 360 and PS3.

And 1 more thing, graphics do matter and help enhance gameplay. If you dont believe this statement, we should still be playing on SNES graphics. And if graphics dont matter, why did Nintendo make the Wii a little more powerful than GC?

Ninten007


If the PS2 was as capable as the GC and Xbox, then why did they not put Doom 3, Far Cry, Republic Commando and The Chronicles of Riddick Escape From Butcher Bay on the PS2?

All fanboy's logic is flawed and so is yours.
Avatar image for Goldensun48
Goldensun48

1181

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#13 Goldensun48
Member since 2006 • 1181 Posts

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]Cows:

last-gen: gameplay>graphics

this-gen: graphics>gameplay
Ninten007

Thats not true. The PS2 was graphically capable of going up against the more powerful GC and Xbox. Look at such games as MGS 3, God of War, Star Wars Battlefront, RE 4? Point was that the PS2 was quite on the same level as the other systems.

The Wii is not on the same level as the more powerful consoles. Actually right now the gameplay on the Wii sucks compared to the 360 and PS3.

And 1 more thing, graphics do matter and help enhance gameplay. If you dont believe this statement, we should still be playing on SNES graphics. And if graphics dont matter, why did Nintendo make the Wii a little more powerful than GC?

 

i completely agree with your last paragraph thats why sheep logic is COMPLETELY flawed!

Avatar image for MikeE21286
MikeE21286

10405

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#14 MikeE21286
Member since 2003 • 10405 Posts

All it is is a continuous cycle of self-ownage where Fanboys blindly follow what companies hand them regardless of what they thought before or even think right now.

 

It's like "Well OK, this is what Mario/Halo is gonna look and play like this Generation........whatever"

Avatar image for Sonick54
Sonick54

7947

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 2

User Lists: 0

#15 Sonick54
Member since 2005 • 7947 Posts
All fanboys= Flawed

It's as simple as that.
Avatar image for Maelkav
Maelkav

399

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#16 Maelkav
Member since 2007 • 399 Posts

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]Cows:

last-gen: gameplay>graphics

this-gen: graphics>gameplay
Ninten007

Thats not true. The PS2 was graphically capable of going up against the more powerful GC and Xbox. Look at such games as MGS 3, God of War, Star Wars Battlefront, RE 4? Point was that the PS2 was quite on the same level as the other systems.

The Wii is not on the same level as the more powerful consoles. Actually right now the gameplay on the Wii sucks compared to the 360 and PS3.

And 1 more thing, graphics do matter and help enhance gameplay. If you dont believe this statement, we should still be playing on SNES graphics. And if graphics dont matter, why did Nintendo make the Wii a little more powerful than GC?

You opened up a whole can of worms, but I'll try to be polite.

1)Actually right now the gameplay on the Wii sucks compared to the 360 and PS3 Does it? That is totally up to opinion.

2)If you dont believe this statement, we should still be playing on SNES graphics I still whip out my old SNES and have just as much fun with it as I did in the old days. Many "hardcore" gamers would agree with me.

3)And if graphics dont matter, why did Nintendo make the Wii a little more powerful than GC Um....didn't you just say a few lines before that graphics DO matter? You should be happy that the idiotic Nintendo has taken your superior idea to heart.

Avatar image for GundamGuy0
GundamGuy0

10970

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#17 GundamGuy0
Member since 2003 • 10970 Posts
[QUOTE="Ninten007"]Thats not true. The PS2 was graphically capable of going up against the more powerful GC and Xbox. Look at such games as MGS 3, God of War, Star Wars Battlefront, RE 4? Point was that the PS2 was quite on the same level as the other systems.

The Wii is not on the same level as the more powerful consoles. Actually right now the gameplay on the Wii sucks compared to the 360 and PS3.

And 1 more thing, graphics do matter and help enhance gameplay. If you dont believe this statement, we should still be playing on SNES graphics. And if graphics dont matter, why did Nintendo make the Wii a little more powerful than GC?

foxhound_fox



If the PS2 was as capable as the GC and Xbox, then why did they not put Doom 3, Far Cry, Republic Commando and The Chronicles of Riddick Escape From Butcher Bay on the PS2?

All fanboy's logic is flawed and so is yours.

 

Crazy enough Rogue Squadren II is better looking then most PS2 games...  

Avatar image for Blackbond
Blackbond

24516

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#18 Blackbond
Member since 2005 • 24516 Posts

Cows:

last-gen: gameplay>graphics

this-gen: graphics>gameplay
foxhound_fox

Rumble is a gimmick until the Dual Shock

Analog sucked until Dual Shock

Tilt and Motion sensing was a gimmick until Six Axis

Sales determined that PS1 and PS2 were winnning but can't be used to claim Wii is winning

Rumble isn't needed until you guys go crazy about it coming back

Xbox is a shooter brand yet Resistance Fall of Man is Sony's only worth while exclusive.

2 SKU's is the dumbest thing ever created MS are idiotsand then Sony did it too.

Having software emulation for BC is dumb when Sony has hardware BC until that was taken away.

Next gen doesn't start until we say so yet PS3 doesn't have one game that looks or plays better then GeOW

PS1 and PS2 weak graphics, we don't need graphics games are where its at Why did this change with PS3?

You guys go on and on about graphics yet no PS3 game looks better then Gears of War

 

 

All fanboys have crap logic Cows just seems to be just as bad.

Avatar image for Ninten007
Ninten007

3129

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#19 Ninten007
Member since 2005 • 3129 Posts
[QUOTE="Ninten007"]Thats not true. The PS2 was graphically capable of going up against the more powerful GC and Xbox. Look at such games as MGS 3, God of War, Star Wars Battlefront, RE 4? Point was that the PS2 was quite on the same level as the other systems.

The Wii is not on the same level as the more powerful consoles. Actually right now the gameplay on the Wii sucks compared to the 360 and PS3.

And 1 more thing, graphics do matter and help enhance gameplay. If you dont believe this statement, we should still be playing on SNES graphics. And if graphics dont matter, why did Nintendo make the Wii a little more powerful than GC?

foxhound_fox



If the PS2 was as capable as the GC and Xbox, then why did they not put Doom 3, Far Cry, Republic Commando and The Chronicles of Riddick Escape From Butcher Bay on the PS2?

All fanboy's logic is flawed and so is yours.

If the GC was so capable why didnt it get Battlefronts, God of Wars, Final Fanasties, GTA, etc?

It is so pathetic that you are willing to let Nintendo control your feeble minds. Last gen it is all about the quality games and you believed that and bashed the PS2 and Xbox for being too casual friendly and saying it was ruining gaming.

This gen Nintendo is appealing to casuals with cheap arsed games and you say it is saving gaming?

Oh by the way PS2 and Xbox casual games >>>>>>>>such crap like Elebits, Wii Play, Wario Ware, Excitetruck.

The Wii is just getting hand me downs from last-gen games, so where is the quality in that? For $250 you should expect more than just a repackaged GC with a waggle controller.

Avatar image for danneswegman
danneswegman

12937

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#20 danneswegman
Member since 2005 • 12937 Posts
imagine the Wiimote with next gen graphics. nobody would doubt the revolution.
Avatar image for Kev_Unreal
Kev_Unreal

2818

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#21 Kev_Unreal
Member since 2007 • 2818 Posts

Sheep logic= Flawed

Cows logic= Flawed

Lemmings logic= Flawed

/thread:|

Avatar image for Stabby2486
Stabby2486

6688

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#22 Stabby2486
Member since 2006 • 6688 Posts

If the GC was so capable why didnt it get Battlefronts, God of Wars, Final Fanasties, GTA, etc?

  

God of War is published by Sony. :|

Avatar image for Maelkav
Maelkav

399

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#23 Maelkav
Member since 2007 • 399 Posts
[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="Ninten007"]Thats not true. The PS2 was graphically capable of going up against the more powerful GC and Xbox. Look at such games as MGS 3, God of War, Star Wars Battlefront, RE 4? Point was that the PS2 was quite on the same level as the other systems.

The Wii is not on the same level as the more powerful consoles. Actually right now the gameplay on the Wii sucks compared to the 360 and PS3.

And 1 more thing, graphics do matter and help enhance gameplay. If you dont believe this statement, we should still be playing on SNES graphics. And if graphics dont matter, why did Nintendo make the Wii a little more powerful than GC?

Ninten007



If the PS2 was as capable as the GC and Xbox, then why did they not put Doom 3, Far Cry, Republic Commando and The Chronicles of Riddick Escape From Butcher Bay on the PS2?

All fanboy's logic is flawed and so is yours.

If the GC was so capable why didnt it get Battlefronts, God of Wars, Final Fanasties, GTA, etc?

 

Maybe because....those games were all franchised to one system at the time(not sure about Battlefronts, though).

Besides, MP and MP2 had graphics LEAPS and BOUNDS above many PS2 and XBOX games. Again, your logic fails. The gaming market will be laughing a year from now as Wii continues to rock.

Avatar image for nintendofreak_2
nintendofreak_2

25896

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 17

User Lists: 0

#24 nintendofreak_2
Member since 2005 • 25896 Posts
Cows:

last-gen: gameplay>graphics

this-gen: graphics>gameplay
foxhound_fox
pwned TC.
Avatar image for MikeE21286
MikeE21286

10405

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#25 MikeE21286
Member since 2003 • 10405 Posts

imagine the Wiimote with next gen graphics. nobody would doubt the revolution.danneswegman

And you know what......I almost guarantee that combination right there would have failed for Nintendo.

Avatar image for Blackbond
Blackbond

24516

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#26 Blackbond
Member since 2005 • 24516 Posts
[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="Ninten007"]Thats not true. The PS2 was graphically capable of going up against the more powerful GC and Xbox. Look at such games as MGS 3, God of War, Star Wars Battlefront, RE 4? Point was that the PS2 was quite on the same level as the other systems.

The Wii is not on the same level as the more powerful consoles. Actually right now the gameplay on the Wii sucks compared to the 360 and PS3.

And 1 more thing, graphics do matter and help enhance gameplay. If you dont believe this statement, we should still be playing on SNES graphics. And if graphics dont matter, why did Nintendo make the Wii a little more powerful than GC?

Ninten007



If the PS2 was as capable as the GC and Xbox, then why did they not put Doom 3, Far Cry, Republic Commando and The Chronicles of Riddick Escape From Butcher Bay on the PS2?

All fanboy's logic is flawed and so is yours.

If the GC was so capable why didnt it get Battlefronts, God of Wars, Final Fanasties, GTA, etc?

It is so pathetic that you are willing to let Nintendo control your feeble minds. Last gen it is all about the quality games and you believed that and bashed the PS2 and Xbox for being too casual friendly and saying it was ruining gaming.

This gen Nintendo is appealing to casuals with cheap arsed games and you say it is saving gaming?

Oh by the way PS2 and Xbox casual games >>>>>>>>such crap like Elebits, Wii Play, Wario Ware, Excitetruck.

The Wii is just getting hand me downs from last-gen games, so where is the quality in that? For $250 you should expect more than just a repackaged GC with a waggle controller.

Waits for this fanboy to come in damage controlling lol

Avatar image for tegovoltio
tegovoltio

9280

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#27 tegovoltio
Member since 2004 • 9280 Posts
[QUOTE="Ninten007"]Thats not true. The PS2 was graphically capable of going up against the more powerful GC and Xbox. Look at such games as MGS 3, God of War, Star Wars Battlefront, RE 4? Point was that the PS2 was quite on the same level as the other systems.

The Wii is not on the same level as the more powerful consoles. Actually right now the gameplay on the Wii sucks compared to the 360 and PS3.

And 1 more thing, graphics do matter and help enhance gameplay. If you dont believe this statement, we should still be playing on SNES graphics. And if graphics dont matter, why did Nintendo make the Wii a little more powerful than GC?

foxhound_fox


If the PS2 was as capable as the GC and Xbox, then why did they not put Doom 3, Far Cry, Republic Commando and The Chronicles of Riddick Escape From Butcher Bay on the PS2?

All fanboy's logic is flawed and so is yours.

Did they put those on GC?? No. And ofcourse PS2 was the weakest but it had some of the best looking games.
Avatar image for ithilgore2006
ithilgore2006

10494

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 6

User Lists: 0

#28 ithilgore2006
Member since 2006 • 10494 Posts
[QUOTE="Ninten007"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="Ninten007"]Thats not true. The PS2 was graphically capable of going up against the more powerful GC and Xbox. Look at such games as MGS 3, God of War, Star Wars Battlefront, RE 4? Point was that the PS2 was quite on the same level as the other systems.

The Wii is not on the same level as the more powerful consoles. Actually right now the gameplay on the Wii sucks compared to the 360 and PS3.

And 1 more thing, graphics do matter and help enhance gameplay. If you dont believe this statement, we should still be playing on SNES graphics. And if graphics dont matter, why did Nintendo make the Wii a little more powerful than GC?

Blackbond



If the PS2 was as capable as the GC and Xbox, then why did they not put Doom 3, Far Cry, Republic Commando and The Chronicles of Riddick Escape From Butcher Bay on the PS2?

All fanboy's logic is flawed and so is yours.

If the GC was so capable why didnt it get Battlefronts, God of Wars, Final Fanasties, GTA, etc?

It is so pathetic that you are willing to let Nintendo control your feeble minds. Last gen it is all about the quality games and you believed that and bashed the PS2 and Xbox for being too casual friendly and saying it was ruining gaming.

This gen Nintendo is appealing to casuals with cheap arsed games and you say it is saving gaming?

Oh by the way PS2 and Xbox casual games >>>>>>>>such crap like Elebits, Wii Play, Wario Ware, Excitetruck.

The Wii is just getting hand me downs from last-gen games, so where is the quality in that? For $250 you should expect more than just a repackaged GC with a waggle controller.

Waits for this fanboy to come in damage controlling lol

Oh, just wait for his "witty" comeback where he says "good Final Fantasies". As if that just erases FF: CC from existance.
Avatar image for GundamGuy0
GundamGuy0

10970

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#29 GundamGuy0
Member since 2003 • 10970 Posts
[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="Ninten007"]Thats not true. The PS2 was graphically capable of going up against the more powerful GC and Xbox. Look at such games as MGS 3, God of War, Star Wars Battlefront, RE 4? Point was that the PS2 was quite on the same level as the other systems.

The Wii is not on the same level as the more powerful consoles. Actually right now the gameplay on the Wii sucks compared to the 360 and PS3.

And 1 more thing, graphics do matter and help enhance gameplay. If you dont believe this statement, we should still be playing on SNES graphics. And if graphics dont matter, why did Nintendo make the Wii a little more powerful than GC?

Ninten007



If the PS2 was as capable as the GC and Xbox, then why did they not put Doom 3, Far Cry, Republic Commando and The Chronicles of Riddick Escape From Butcher Bay on the PS2?

All fanboy's logic is flawed and so is yours.

If the GC was so capable why didnt it get Battlefronts, God of Wars, Final Fanasties, GTA, etc?


 

First the God of War games were published by Sony... Why didn't the PS2 get Super Mario Sunshine?

Second GTA, Battlefront and Final Fantasy were determed by there developers and publishers that they wouldn't sell enough copys on the Gamecube, because of the userbase, (Singificantly lower then the PS2) and not into those games historicaly, to not be worth while ventures, on teh GC, It has nothing to do with capabilities.  

 

 

Avatar image for GundamGuy0
GundamGuy0

10970

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#30 GundamGuy0
Member since 2003 • 10970 Posts
[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="Ninten007"]Thats not true. The PS2 was graphically capable of going up against the more powerful GC and Xbox. Look at such games as MGS 3, God of War, Star Wars Battlefront, RE 4? Point was that the PS2 was quite on the same level as the other systems.

The Wii is not on the same level as the more powerful consoles. Actually right now the gameplay on the Wii sucks compared to the 360 and PS3.

And 1 more thing, graphics do matter and help enhance gameplay. If you dont believe this statement, we should still be playing on SNES graphics. And if graphics dont matter, why did Nintendo make the Wii a little more powerful than GC?

tegovoltio



If the PS2 was as capable as the GC and Xbox, then why did they not put Doom 3, Far Cry, Republic Commando and The Chronicles of Riddick Escape From Butcher Bay on the PS2?

All fanboy's logic is flawed and so is yours.



Did they put those on GC?? No. And ofcourse PS2 was the weakest but it had some of the best looking games.

 

It has good looking games, but i'd not say the best looking games.  

Avatar image for ps3-nikita
ps3-nikita

2945

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#31 ps3-nikita
Member since 2005 • 2945 Posts
[QUOTE="Ninten007"]

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]Cows:

last-gen: gameplay>graphics

this-gen: graphics>gameplay
Maelkav

Thats not true. The PS2 was graphically capable of going up against the more powerful GC and Xbox. Look at such games as MGS 3, God of War, Star Wars Battlefront, RE 4? Point was that the PS2 was quite on the same level as the other systems.

The Wii is not on the same level as the more powerful consoles. Actually right now the gameplay on the Wii sucks compared to the 360 and PS3.

And 1 more thing, graphics do matter and help enhance gameplay. If you dont believe this statement, we should still be playing on SNES graphics. And if graphics dont matter, why did Nintendo make the Wii a little more powerful than GC?

You opened up a whole can of worms, but I'll try to be polite.

1)Actually right now the gameplay on the Wii sucks compared to the 360 and PS3 Does it? That is totally up to opinion.

2)If you dont believe this statement, we should still be playing on SNES graphics I still whip out my old SNES and have just as much fun with it as I did in the old days. Many "hardcore" gamers would agree with me.

3)And if graphics dont matter, why did Nintendo make the Wii a little more powerful than GC Um....didn't you just say a few lines before that graphics DO matter? You should be happy that the idiotic Nintendo has taken your superior idea to heart.

2, Is really about nostalgia, many old skool gamers forget this. It is also why in context of todays graphics, it is really a lame argument that goes even against what the Snes was about. Being a suped up nes. A super Nintendo System. If the graphics were marginally better then the Nes. Megadrive would have crushed the Snes. You wouldnt be playing no Wii, I doubt you would even have seen the GC. This is why, whenever that lame comeback is used I laugh. 99% of the time it is out of context. To any sheep or anyone lame enough to try and use the past to justify the graphics on the Wii, dont. Pretty much every new genertaion or new system has improved enough in that area. So please dont use the we had fun on the 8bit or 16bit games, its a moot point. The truth is if 99% of the snes games looked like the nes games. You woulnt have had the need to buy one. You would have a Megadrive for your 16bit games and kept your old nes. If it were up to Nintendo you would be still playing the snes.
Avatar image for -The-G-Man-
-The-G-Man-

6414

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#32 -The-G-Man-
Member since 2007 • 6414 Posts
So cows, lemmings, and hermits are Einsteins?
Avatar image for GundamGuy0
GundamGuy0

10970

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#33 GundamGuy0
Member since 2003 • 10970 Posts
[QUOTE="Maelkav"][QUOTE="Ninten007"]

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"] Cows:

last-gen: gameplay>graphics

this-gen: graphics>gameplay
ps3-nikita

Thats not true. The PS2 was graphically capable of going up against the more powerful GC and Xbox. Look at such games as MGS 3, God of War, Star Wars Battlefront, RE 4? Point was that the PS2 was quite on the same level as the other systems.

The Wii is not on the same level as the more powerful consoles. Actually right now the gameplay on the Wii sucks compared to the 360 and PS3.

And 1 more thing, graphics do matter and help enhance gameplay. If you dont believe this statement, we should still be playing on SNES graphics. And if graphics dont matter, why did Nintendo make the Wii a little more powerful than GC?

You opened up a whole can of worms, but I'll try to be polite.

1)Actually right now the gameplay on the Wii sucks compared to the 360 and PS3 Does it? That is totally up to opinion.

2)If you dont believe this statement, we should still be playing on SNES graphics I still whip out my old SNES and have just as much fun with it as I did in the old days. Many "hardcore" gamers would agree with me.

3)And if graphics dont matter, why did Nintendo make the Wii a little more powerful than GC Um....didn't you just say a few lines before that graphics DO matter? You should be happy that the idiotic Nintendo has taken your superior idea to heart.



2, Is really about nostalgia, many old skool gamers forget this. It is also why in context of todays graphics, it is really a lame argument that goes even against what the Snes was about. Being a suped up nes. A super Nintendo System. If the graphics were marginally better then the Nes. Megadrive would have crushed the Snes. You wouldnt be playing no Wii, I doubt you would even have seen the GC. This is why, whenever that lame comeback is used I laugh. 99% of the time it is out of context.

To any sheep or anyone lame enough to try and use the past to justify the graphics on the Wii, dont. Pretty much every new genertaion or new system has improved enough in that area. So please dont use the we had fun on the 8bit or 16bit games, its a moot point. The truth is if 99% of the snes games looked like the nes games. You woulnt have had the need to buy one. You would have a Megadrive for your 16bit games and kept your old nes. If it were up to Nintendo you would be still playing the snes.

 

Enough is a subjective term, the Wii improved enough in that area too as far as I am concerned.

 

Do you have an empirical test to qualify graphic improvement?

Avatar image for -The-G-Man-
-The-G-Man-

6414

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#35 -The-G-Man-
Member since 2007 • 6414 Posts

Waits for this fanboy to come in damage controlling lol

Blackbond

In the meantime, we just need to sit back, relax, and look at all dat juice.

Avatar image for nintendofreak_2
nintendofreak_2

25896

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 17

User Lists: 0

#36 nintendofreak_2
Member since 2005 • 25896 Posts
Oh, just wait for his "witty" comeback where he says "good Final Fantasies". As if that just erases FF: CC from existance.ithilgore2006
that didn't take long
Avatar image for tegovoltio
tegovoltio

9280

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#37 tegovoltio
Member since 2004 • 9280 Posts
[QUOTE="tegovoltio"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="Ninten007"]Thats not true. The PS2 was graphically capable of going up against the more powerful GC and Xbox. Look at such games as MGS 3, God of War, Star Wars Battlefront, RE 4? Point was that the PS2 was quite on the same level as the other systems.

The Wii is not on the same level as the more powerful consoles. Actually right now the gameplay on the Wii sucks compared to the 360 and PS3.

And 1 more thing, graphics do matter and help enhance gameplay. If you dont believe this statement, we should still be playing on SNES graphics. And if graphics dont matter, why did Nintendo make the Wii a little more powerful than GC?

GundamGuy0



If the PS2 was as capable as the GC and Xbox, then why did they not put Doom 3, Far Cry, Republic Commando and The Chronicles of Riddick Escape From Butcher Bay on the PS2?

All fanboy's logic is flawed and so is yours.



Did they put those on GC?? No. And ofcourse PS2 was the weakest but it had some of the best looking games.

It has good looking games, but i'd not say the best looking games.

Well not overall of course but the best looking on PS2 looked better than some of the not so good looking ones on GC and Xbox.
Avatar image for foxhound_fox
foxhound_fox

98532

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 13

User Lists: 0

#38 foxhound_fox
Member since 2005 • 98532 Posts
If the GC was so capable why didnt it get Battlefronts, God of Wars, Final Fanasties, GTA, etc?

It is so pathetic that you are willing to let Nintendo control your feeble minds. Last gen it is all about the quality games and you believed that and bashed the PS2 and Xbox for being too casual friendly and saying it was ruining gaming.

This gen Nintendo is appealing to casuals with cheap arsed games and you say it is saving gaming?

Oh by the way PS2 and Xbox casual games >>>>>>>>such crap like Elebits, Wii Play, Wario Ware, Excitetruck.

The Wii is just getting hand me downs from last-gen games, so where is the quality in that? For $250 you should expect more than just a repackaged GC with a waggle controller.

Ninten007


GC could not get God of War, seeing as how it is made by SCEA.
GC got Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles.
Hiroshi Yamauchi is a stuck up wad and did not want the Gamecube to get GTA.

The install base of the Gamecube and its target audience is what scared third party developers off. The PS2 had a lot of quality games but it also had a lot of crap. NRA Gun Club? You obviously have different tastes in games than other people. The Gamecube received many of those "casual" games as well. Most developers were not interested in selling them on the Gamecube because of the install base and target audience.

The Wii's target audience has grown since the Gamecube. Instead of focusing on Nintendo fans and kids, they have expanded to include casuals, and a whole new one... NON-GAMERS. Just like the DS.You should take a look at the list of games coming out this year, there are many high quality titles. If you do not think so, then your taste lies elsewhere.

You obviously bash the Wii because you are scared of it yet again changing the industry like the PS did. You feel that offering new games to new types of gamers is ruining the "hardcore" industry... yet, a game cannot be c-lassfied under "casual" or "hardcore" seeing as how a person can be a "hardcore" Madden player and spend their entire life devoted to that game alone.

If you do not like the Wii, alright, you do not like the Wii. You do not have to buy one. You are not forced to buy one. So step off because you are not convincing anyone of anything. Casual and non gamers I doubt even know of this forums existence.
Avatar image for Stabby2486
Stabby2486

6688

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#39 Stabby2486
Member since 2006 • 6688 Posts

But anyways it is really sad to see sheep give up on good quality gaming they always craved for utter crap that the Wii is spewing out, you only praise it because it is selling well. I bet most of you are sitting there lonely with your Wii and feeling like crap. I bet you that Prime, Galaxy and Brawl will be aimed towards casuals and all they have to do is Waggle the controller and win. 

Ninten007

 

Brawl uses a GC controller.

Avatar image for GundamGuy0
GundamGuy0

10970

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#40 GundamGuy0
Member since 2003 • 10970 Posts

Sorry but FF:CC for the GC was utter crap. Oh you need a Game Boy advance to play with other players, which was milkage and forcing you to buy yet another crappy Nintendo product.

But anyways it is really sad to see sheep give up on good quality gaming they always craved for utter crap that the Wii is spewing out, you only praise it because it is selling well. I bet most of you are sitting there lonely with your Wii and feeling like crap. I bet you that Prime, Galaxy and Brawl will be aimed towards casuals and all they have to do is Waggle the controller and win.

So therefore, the Wii is ruining this industry and Nintendo is laughing devilishy to the bank. I dont want to play crap, I want good quality games which the 360 and PS3 are doing.

And if the 360 and PS3 were selling between $279-$379 bucks, Nintendo would be dead last, they are only doing good at the moment because of their cheap price.

 

Ninten007

 

Can you rectify those two statments? Apparently you think all Nintendo Products are "crappy." Yet sheep have given up on good quality gaming? How can the previous products be "crappy," and provide "good quality gaming" at the same time?

Avatar image for MikeE21286
MikeE21286

10405

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#41 MikeE21286
Member since 2003 • 10405 Posts

Sorry but FF:CC for the GC was utter crap. Oh you need a Game Boy advance to play with other players, which was milkage and forcing you to buy yet another crappy Nintendo product.

But anyways it is really sad to see sheep give up on good quality gaming they always craved for utter crap that the Wii is spewing out, you only praise it because it is selling well. I bet most of you are sitting there lonely with your Wii and feeling like crap. I bet you that Prime, Galaxy and Brawl will be aimed towards casuals and all they have to do is Waggle the controller and win.

So therefore, the Wii is ruining this industry and Nintendo is laughing devilishy to the bank. I dont want to play crap, I want good quality games which the 360 and PS3 are doing.

And if the 360 and PS3 were selling between $279-$379 bucks, Nintendo would be dead last, they are only doing good at the moment because of their cheap price.

 

Ninten007

Parts of this I agree with........

I do think that the Wii taking over this popular demand does have bad implications for future products (although I hope not). 

I also say that if you put the Wii, PS3 and 360 all at $250 .......well we all know who would not win.....

Avatar image for -The-G-Man-
-The-G-Man-

6414

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#42 -The-G-Man-
Member since 2007 • 6414 Posts

Sorry but FF:CC for the GC was utter crap. Oh you need a Game Boy advance to play with other players, which was milkage and forcing you to buy yet another crappy Nintendo product.

But anyways it is really sad to see sheep give up on good quality gaming they always craved for utter crap that the Wii is spewing out, you only praise it because it is selling well. I bet most of you are sitting there lonely with your Wii and feeling like crap. I bet you that Prime, Galaxy and Brawl will be aimed towards casuals and all they have to do is Waggle the controller and win.

So therefore, the Wii is ruining this industry and Nintendo is laughing devilishy to the bank. I dont want to play crap, I want good quality games which the 360 and PS3 are doing.

And if the 360 and PS3 were selling between $279-$379 bucks, Nintendo would be dead last, they are only doing good at the moment because of their cheap price.

 

Ninten007

If Crystal Chronicles was on the PS2, you would be praising it as the best Final Fantasy ever.

Brawl uses a GC controller.

What do you base Galaxy and Prime being aimed at casuals on?

Avatar image for GundamGuy0
GundamGuy0

10970

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#43 GundamGuy0
Member since 2003 • 10970 Posts
[QUOTE="GundamGuy0"][QUOTE="tegovoltio"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="Ninten007"]Thats not true. The PS2 was graphically capable of going up against the more powerful GC and Xbox. Look at such games as MGS 3, God of War, Star Wars Battlefront, RE 4? Point was that the PS2 was quite on the same level as the other systems.

The Wii is not on the same level as the more powerful consoles. Actually right now the gameplay on the Wii sucks compared to the 360 and PS3.

And 1 more thing, graphics do matter and help enhance gameplay. If you dont believe this statement, we should still be playing on SNES graphics. And if graphics dont matter, why did Nintendo make the Wii a little more powerful than GC?

tegovoltio



If the PS2 was as capable as the GC and Xbox, then why did they not put Doom 3, Far Cry, Republic Commando and The Chronicles of Riddick Escape From Butcher Bay on the PS2?

All fanboy's logic is flawed and so is yours.



Did they put those on GC?? No. And ofcourse PS2 was the weakest but it had some of the best looking games.

 

It has good looking games, but i'd not say the best looking games.



Well not overall of course but the best looking on PS2 looked better than some of the not so good looking ones on GC and Xbox.

 

Well of course. I expect that something on the Wii might pass Gundam PS3, and Gun Xbox 360 as well.  

Avatar image for nintendofreak_2
nintendofreak_2

25896

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 17

User Lists: 0

#44 nintendofreak_2
Member since 2005 • 25896 Posts
[QUOTE="Ninten007"]

Sorry but FF:CC for the GC was utter crap. Oh you need a Game Boy advance to play with other players, which was milkage and forcing you to buy yet another crappy Nintendo product.

But anyways it is really sad to see sheep give up on good quality gaming they always craved for utter crap that the Wii is spewing out, you only praise it because it is selling well. I bet most of you are sitting there lonely with your Wii and feeling like crap. I bet you that Prime, Galaxy and Brawl will be aimed towards casuals and all they have to do is Waggle the controller and win.

So therefore, the Wii is ruining this industry and Nintendo is laughing devilishy to the bank. I dont want to play crap, I want good quality games which the 360 and PS3 are doing.

And if the 360 and PS3 were selling between $279-$379 bucks, Nintendo would be dead last, they are only doing good at the moment because of their cheap price.

 

-The-G-Man-

If Crystal Chronicles was on the PS2, you would be praising it as the best Final Fantasy ever.

It's amazing how true that is.
Avatar image for -The-G-Man-
-The-G-Man-

6414

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#45 -The-G-Man-
Member since 2007 • 6414 Posts
[QUOTE="-The-G-Man-"][QUOTE="Ninten007"]

Sorry but FF:CC for the GC was utter crap. Oh you need a Game Boy advance to play with other players, which was milkage and forcing you to buy yet another crappy Nintendo product.

But anyways it is really sad to see sheep give up on good quality gaming they always craved for utter crap that the Wii is spewing out, you only praise it because it is selling well. I bet most of you are sitting there lonely with your Wii and feeling like crap. I bet you that Prime, Galaxy and Brawl will be aimed towards casuals and all they have to do is Waggle the controller and win.

So therefore, the Wii is ruining this industry and Nintendo is laughing devilishy to the bank. I dont want to play crap, I want good quality games which the 360 and PS3 are doing.

And if the 360 and PS3 were selling between $279-$379 bucks, Nintendo would be dead last, they are only doing good at the moment because of their cheap price.

 

nintendofreak_2

If Crystal Chronicles was on the PS2, you would be praising it as the best Final Fantasy ever.

It's amazing how true that is.

H'ed be using it in this very arguement, trying to claim ownage on the GC because it doesn't have FF: CC.

Avatar image for Ninten007
Ninten007

3129

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#46 Ninten007
Member since 2005 • 3129 Posts
[QUOTE="Ninten007"]

Sorry but FF:CC for the GC was utter crap. Oh you need a Game Boy advance to play with other players, which was milkage and forcing you to buy yet another crappy Nintendo product.

But anyways it is really sad to see sheep give up on good quality gaming they always craved for utter crap that the Wii is spewing out, you only praise it because it is selling well. I bet most of you are sitting there lonely with your Wii and feeling like crap. I bet you that Prime, Galaxy and Brawl will be aimed towards casuals and all they have to do is Waggle the controller and win.

So therefore, the Wii is ruining this industry and Nintendo is laughing devilishy to the bank. I dont want to play crap, I want good quality games which the 360 and PS3 are doing.

And if the 360 and PS3 were selling between $279-$379 bucks, Nintendo would be dead last, they are only doing good at the moment because of their cheap price.

 

-The-G-Man-

If Crystal Chronicles was on the PS2, you would be praising it as the best Final Fantasy ever.

Oh hell no. The 7th installment was the best. FF CC was crap even the sheep said it. But if they remade FF CC for Wii with casual friendly tones, they would claim it as the best ever.

Oh the good days when sheep cared for good quality games is now long gone. Now they seem to want to play last-gen ports, minigames, and just waggle their controller without thinking to win.

Learn to stop bending over to Nintendo and demand some quality games. Instead of getting crap yall should be getting some real support.

Avatar image for Blackbond
Blackbond

24516

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#47 Blackbond
Member since 2005 • 24516 Posts

Waits for this fanboy to come in damage controlling lolBlackbond
 

Sorry but FF:CC for the GC was utter crap. Oh you need a Game Boy advance to play with other players, which was milkage and forcing you to buy yet another crappy Nintendo product.

But anyways it is really sad to see sheep give up on good quality gaming they always craved for utter crap that the Wii is spewing out, you only praise it because it is selling well. I bet most of you are sitting there lonely with your Wii and feeling like crap. I bet you that Prime, Galaxy and Brawl will be aimed towards casuals and all they have to do is Waggle the controller and win.

So therefore, the Wii is ruining this industry and Nintendo is laughing devilishy to the bank. I dont want to play crap, I want good quality games which the 360 and PS3 are doing.

And if the 360 and PS3 were selling between $279-$379 bucks, Nintendo would be dead last, they are only doing good at the moment because of their cheap price.

 

Ninten007

Ninten007 not realizing that AA games are actually good and that the Gameboy Advance isn't another crappy Nintendo product 

Avatar image for nintendofreak_2
nintendofreak_2

25896

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 17

User Lists: 0

#48 nintendofreak_2
Member since 2005 • 25896 Posts

Oh hell no. The 7th installment was the best. FF CC was crap even the sheep said it. But if they remade FF CC for Wii with casual friendly tones, they would claim it as the best ever.

Oh the good days when sheep cared for good quality games is now long gone. Now they seem to want to play last-gen ports, minigames, and just waggle their controller without thinking to win.

Learn to stop bending over to Nintendo and demand some quality games. Instead of getting crap yall should be getting some real support.

Ninten007
I guess we should be cool and boycott Nintendo huh. :roll:
Avatar image for -The-G-Man-
-The-G-Man-

6414

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#49 -The-G-Man-
Member since 2007 • 6414 Posts
[QUOTE="-The-G-Man-"][QUOTE="Ninten007"]

Sorry but FF:CC for the GC was utter crap. Oh you need a Game Boy advance to play with other players, which was milkage and forcing you to buy yet another crappy Nintendo product.

But anyways it is really sad to see sheep give up on good quality gaming they always craved for utter crap that the Wii is spewing out, you only praise it because it is selling well. I bet most of you are sitting there lonely with your Wii and feeling like crap. I bet you that Prime, Galaxy and Brawl will be aimed towards casuals and all they have to do is Waggle the controller and win.

So therefore, the Wii is ruining this industry and Nintendo is laughing devilishy to the bank. I dont want to play crap, I want good quality games which the 360 and PS3 are doing.

And if the 360 and PS3 were selling between $279-$379 bucks, Nintendo would be dead last, they are only doing good at the moment because of their cheap price.

 

Ninten007

If Crystal Chronicles was on the PS2, you would be praising it as the best Final Fantasy ever.

Oh hell no. The 7th installment was the best. FF CC was crap even the sheep said it. But if they remade FF CC for Wii with casual friendly tones, they would claim it as the best ever.

Oh the good days when sheep cared for good quality games is now long gone. Now they seem to want to play last-gen ports, minigames, and just waggle their controller without thinking to win.

Learn to stop bending over to Nintendo and demand some quality games. Instead of getting crap yall should be getting some real support.

Zelda and Trauma Center say different.  The Wii DOES have quality games, those two being an example.

Avatar image for Oroin
Oroin

3041

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#50 Oroin
Member since 2006 • 3041 Posts
[QUOTE="Ninten007"][QUOTE="-The-G-Man-"][QUOTE="Ninten007"]

-The-G-Man-

If Crystal Chronicles was on the PS2, you would be praising it as the best Final Fantasy ever.

Zelda and Trauma Center say different.  The Wii DOES have quality games, those two being an example.

He's probably going to say, "Coud've gotten zelda for the GC (which scored better) and Trauma Center is a mini game.."" The usual fanboy response