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#101 GundamGuy0
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[QUOTE="Ninten007"][QUOTE="ithilgore2006"][QUOTE="Ninten007"][QUOTE="Stabby2486"]

IF they had made a system with 360 like graphics and were delivering quality gaming and getting some good titles like GTA 4, Assassian's Creed, Star Wars:Force Unleashed, RE 5, DMC 4, next-gen Indiana Jones, next-gen Bond gaming, Burnout, Kane and Lynch then I would not have no problem with them.

I dont play crap like Elebits, Cooking Mama, Pinball, Line-Rider, Ubi-ports, Crapcom ports, EA ports, Wario Wares, etc.

ithilgore2006

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Yea, Crapcom=Wii ports. Last gen port of RE 4 with waggle controls, RE UC a FPS running on rails. Thats crap! Why? Because of the cheapness factor of the Wii. Nintendo made Crapcom with the Wii.

The true Capcom= working on a true version of the 5 installment in the RE series and an all new game DMC 4, no freaking ports on the big boy's systems. Sony and MS will redeem Capcom after they spew out their crap on the Wii.

Hang on, RE5 and DMC$ will have to be developed on one of the systems and then ported to the other. I thought you said there's no ports from Capcom on the "big boy's" consoles?

Keyword here is last-gen ports........duh, The next gen systems are getting new versions.

What keyword? You just said ports in your post.

 

And he says Sheep logic is flawed...  

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#102 Hoffgod
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Sheep if you love your Wii so much why are you talking on these forums? Bored much of that crap? LOL

It si time for Nintendo to pop their Wii outta yall's mouth, it is so unbelivable you actually believe them on this revolutionary gamplay thing and yet every game has been worse than it has been on traditional controls.

On rails? For the whole freaking game? That is a n00b-fest, just point and shoot. Everyone's granny could do that. Where is the sense of exploration and the moody atomsphere? Guess what it is gonna be on RE5 on the big boy's consoles not that kiddy nongamer console Wii.

 

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So is there any quality control on your posts, or have you just taken your brain right out of the equation? 1. I'm not playing my Wii because I've been playing it a bunch today. After playing it for about 6 hours straight yesterday. I need a break. 2. I can't think of a single Wii game I own that would be better if it used dual analogue instead. In fact, they'd be worse. Then again, you are right about something. I am a Nintendo fan, which I'm sure in your eyes is a Sheep. And my logic is that it's possible for people to discuss consoles, positively or negatively, without resorting to fanboyish and derogatory comments. Indeed, my logic = flawed. Thanks for proving that.
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#103 IronMaidenLives
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The TC is getting drilled. You can just tell by his retorts.

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#104 glitchgeeman
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ALL fanboy logic is flawed.

Sheep

Last gen: Quality games over sales!

This gen: Sales!

Cows

Last gen: Sales!

This gen: Graphics and t3h blu-ray!

Lemmings

Last gen: Online and Halo!

This gen: Online and Gears!

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#105 magiciandude
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The TC is getting drilled. You can just tell by his retorts.

IronMaidenLives

And the fact that he isn't responding...

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#106 ps3-nikita
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[QUOTE="ps3-nikita"][QUOTE="IronMaidenLives"][QUOTE="Ninten007"]

[QUOTE="Phanrang"]Hahaha this TC is one of the most stupid cows I have seen around. Continue to entertain me guys! :Dmattbbpl

A cow? I own every Nintendo console out there and I learned my lesson after the crap they are spewing out on the Wii. I believe all the prior systems stood for good quality gaming but the Wii does not.

So the hell with Nintendo and their dirty business tactics that wont bring you real gaming and their mario boys who dont buy 3rd party games.

IF they had made a system with 360 like graphics and were delivering quality gaming and getting some good titles like GTA 4, Assassian's Creed, Star Wars:Force Unleashed, RE 5, DMC 4, next-gen Indiana Jones, next-gen Bond gaming, Burnout, Kane and Lynch then I would not have no problem with them.

I dont play crap like Elebits, Cooking Mama, Pinball, Line-Rider, Ubi-ports, Crapcom ports, EA ports, Wario Wares, etc.

Yeah, because MS and Sony never use dirty business tactics.


In the Console space. Nintendo crossed that mark. They shouldnt have even be allowed to continue, thats how strongly I feel about what they did. They didnt save any industry and dont give me that ET or Nintendo seal crap. They crossed the line, pure and simple. No justification, but because its Nintendo the press leave that alone. They have np reminding you with Microsoft


What did they do that was so bad?


Lets say there is a right way to dispatch of competition and there is a wrong way to do it. Sony has flirted with the line, but to my eyes never crossed it. NIntendo damn right crossed it. In my eyes. Nintendo doesnt like to play well with others and never will. This is one thing I see with the Wii and why I dont like it. The difference is that they are using legal means to retain some sort of exclusivity. They arent the powerhouses they were. Microsoft and Sony are too big to stand for that type of crap. There are those who know about how tough Nintendo were on 3rd parties. I am not even talking about being a bit tough. This is way over that line. Just be thankful, Sega had enough support in those days.
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#107 IronMaidenLives
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[QUOTE="IronMaidenLives"]

The TC is getting drilled. You can just tell by his retorts.

magiciandude

And the fact that he isn't responding...

I imagine his frustration has reached new levels. I can just see him now, pounding his little fists on the keyboard.

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#108 Ninten007
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The TC is getting drilled. You can just tell by his retorts.

IronMaidenLives

No you are getting drilled. You actually paid $250 bucks for a bunch of hand me downs from the PS2 era, mini-games, crap graphics, weak online? You got burned and for $250 you should expect more. It is so sad that you want to miss out the real games for Legend of Zorro Wii.

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#109 super_mario_128
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[QUOTE="magiciandude"][QUOTE="IronMaidenLives"]

The TC is getting drilled. You can just tell by his retorts.

IronMaidenLives

And the fact that he isn't responding...

I imagine his frustration has reached new levels. I can just see him now, pounding his little fists on the keyboard.

:lol:
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#110 IronMaidenLives
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[QUOTE="mattbbpl"][QUOTE="ps3-nikita"][QUOTE="IronMaidenLives"][QUOTE="Ninten007"]

[QUOTE="Phanrang"]Hahaha this TC is one of the most stupid cows I have seen around. Continue to entertain me guys! :Dps3-nikita

A cow? I own every Nintendo console out there and I learned my lesson after the crap they are spewing out on the Wii. I believe all the prior systems stood for good quality gaming but the Wii does not.

So the hell with Nintendo and their dirty business tactics that wont bring you real gaming and their mario boys who dont buy 3rd party games.

IF they had made a system with 360 like graphics and were delivering quality gaming and getting some good titles like GTA 4, Assassian's Creed, Star Wars:Force Unleashed, RE 5, DMC 4, next-gen Indiana Jones, next-gen Bond gaming, Burnout, Kane and Lynch then I would not have no problem with them.

I dont play crap like Elebits, Cooking Mama, Pinball, Line-Rider, Ubi-ports, Crapcom ports, EA ports, Wario Wares, etc.

Yeah, because MS and Sony never use dirty business tactics.


In the Console space. Nintendo crossed that mark. They shouldnt have even be allowed to continue, thats how strongly I feel about what they did. They didnt save any industry and dont give me that ET or Nintendo seal crap. They crossed the line, pure and simple. No justification, but because its Nintendo the press leave that alone. They have np reminding you with Microsoft


What did they do that was so bad?


Lets say there is a right way to dispatch of competition and there is a wrong way to do it. Sony has flirted with the line, but to my eyes never crossed it. NIntendo damn right crossed it. In my eyes. Nintendo doesnt like to play well with others and never will. This is one thing I see with the Wii and why I dont like it. The difference is that they are using legal means to retain some sort of exclusivity. They arent the powerhouses they were. Microsoft and Sony are too big to stand for that type of crap. There are those who know about how tough Nintendo were on 3rd parties. I am not even talking about being a bit tough. This is way over that line. Just be thankful, Sega had enough support in those days.

How about throwing us a link or something instead of talking straight from the arse? They are using legal means? Oh, no. Not that!

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#111 IronMaidenLives
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[QUOTE="IronMaidenLives"]

The TC is getting drilled. You can just tell by his retorts.

Ninten007

No you are getting drilled. You actually paid $250 bucks for a bunch of hand me downs from the PS2 era, mini-games, crap graphics, weak online? You got burned and for $250 you should expect more. It is so sad that you want to miss out the real games for Legend of Zorro Wii.

I don't own a Wii so....no.

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#112 super_mario_128
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[QUOTE="IronMaidenLives"]

The TC is getting drilled. You can just tell by his retorts.

Ninten007

No you are getting drilled. You actually paid $250 bucks for a bunch of hand me downs from the PS2 era, mini-games, crap graphics, weak online? You got burned and for $250 you should expect more. It is so sad that you want to miss out the real games for Legend of Zorro Wii.

It's $250 with a wiimote + nunchuck and wii sports. We haven't seen the online yet it's already weak. If you care so much for 360 and Ps3 then go play them, or in fact do anything BUT come here again.
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#113 Ninten007
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Laugh all you want. In a few years I will be laughing at you sheep for getting hoodwinked by Nintendo and all of sudden after the Wii goes down the drain they announce a next-gen system with a traditional controller and said we should have taken this route when we had the Wii out because thats what the majority wanted, but we got too cheap.
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Laugh all you want. In a few years I will be laughing at you sheep for getting hoodwinked by Nintendo and all of sudden after the Wii goes down the drain they announce a next-gen system with a traditional controller and said we should have taken this route when we had the Wii out because thats what the majority wanted, but we got too cheap.Ninten007
Keep dreaming. It'll make you feel better. Oh and thanks for acknowledging we're laughing our heads off at you.
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#115 Dr_Corndog
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Sense the hypocritism?

Ninten007
Hypocritism - today's made-up word of the day!
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#116 Hoffgod
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Laugh all you want. In a few years I will be laughing at you sheep for getting hoodwinked by Nintendo and all of sudden after the Wii goes down the drain they announce a next-gen system with a traditional controller and said we should have taken this route when we had the Wii out because thats what the majority wanted, but we got too cheap.Ninten007
Yet another variant of the "Just wait and see! :cry:" argument. Am I the only one sick and tired of it?
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#117 Kikouken
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IMO- all fanboys logic is flawed. Oroin
right-o
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#118 hamstergeddon
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Laugh all you want. In a few years I will be laughing at you sheep for getting hoodwinked by Nintendo and all of sudden after the Wii goes down the drain they announce a next-gen system with a traditional controller and said we should have taken this route when we had the Wii out because thats what the majority wanted, but we got too cheap.Ninten007
Yes, you will be laughing as the Wii's sales continue to skyrocket and the PS3's sales go down the drain. I wasn't on Gamespot two years ago when Sheep were arguing "quality over sales", but in reality, its not what u think is the quality of the console, its what the public thinks. If they think the console is high quality and buy it, the consoles a success. If nobody buys it: its a failure. The GC was a (relative) failure; the Wii is a success. And quit using last gen to claim ownage, were living in 2007
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#119 REVOLUTIONfreak
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I don't think "hypocritism" is a word...

And who exactly labeled the PS2 and Xbox as casual consoles?  Wii is winning because it actually does have quality games, and the select games that aren't quality have nothing to do with Nintendo, just third parties.  Every Nintendo game that has been put on Wii so far is top notch, ie. Twilight Princess, Super Paper Mario, Wii Sports, WarioWare

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#120 Ninten007
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[QUOTE="Ninten007"]Laugh all you want. In a few years I will be laughing at you sheep for getting hoodwinked by Nintendo and all of sudden after the Wii goes down the drain they announce a next-gen system with a traditional controller and said we should have taken this route when we had the Wii out because thats what the majority wanted, but we got too cheap.hamstergeddon

Yes, you will be laughing as the Wii's sales continue to skyrocket and the PS3's sales go down the drain. I wasn't on Gamespot two years ago when Sheep were arguing "quality over sales", but in reality, its not what u think is the quality of the console, its what the public thinks. If they think the console is high quality and buy it, the consoles a success. If nobody buys it: its a failure. The GC was a (relative) failure; the Wii is a success. And quit using last gen to claim ownage, were living in 2007

The Wii is not a success, it still has not reached the 21.5-23 million that the GC already sold. If it does they you can say its alright but if it surprasses it by a considerable margin then it will be a success but right now it is just selling well and there is no telling what will happen in the upcoming months, but history tells me Nintendo starts at a high and declines.

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#121 Hoffgod
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[QUOTE="hamstergeddon"][QUOTE="Ninten007"]Laugh all you want. In a few years I will be laughing at you sheep for getting hoodwinked by Nintendo and all of sudden after the Wii goes down the drain they announce a next-gen system with a traditional controller and said we should have taken this route when we had the Wii out because thats what the majority wanted, but we got too cheap.Ninten007


Yes, you will be laughing as the Wii's sales continue to skyrocket and the PS3's sales go down the drain. I wasn't on Gamespot two years ago when Sheep were arguing "quality over sales", but in reality, its not what u think is the quality of the console, its what the public thinks. If they think the console is high quality and buy it, the consoles a success. If nobody buys it: its a failure. The GC was a (relative) failure; the Wii is a success. And quit using last gen to claim ownage, were living in 2007

The Wii is not a success, it still has not reached the 21.5-23 million that the GC already sold. If it does they you can say its alright but if it surprasses it by a considerable margin then it will be a success but right now it is just selling well and there is no telling what will happen in the upcoming months, but history tells me Nintendo starts at a high and declines.

And you base that on what? The GameCube sold well when it launched, and then it came to a screeching halt right after Christmas 2001. Know how many GameCubes sold in all of the US in Janurary 2002? 90k units. The Wii sold over 400k. Bit of a difference, wouldn't you agree?
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#122 Ninten007
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I don't think "hypocritism" is a word...

And who exactly labeled the PS2 and Xbox as casual consoles?  Wii is winning because it actually does have quality games, and the select games that aren't quality have nothing to do with Nintendo, just third parties.  Every Nintendo game that has been put on Wii so far is top notch, ie. Twilight Princess, Super Paper Mario, Wii Sports, WarioWare

REVOLUTIONfreak

Oh me, oh my. If you truly believe those games are top-notch then man get outta here.

TP-Yea good game, also playable on GC and in some aspects better on the GC because of camera control.

Super Paper Mario-Meh been there dont that, Paper Mario TTYD is believed to be better

Wii Sports- A cheap tech demo where you can move your characters, and just making swinging motions to win.

WarioWare- Which gamer, besides sheep, in their right state of mind plays a plethora of mini games?

Yea last gen sheep labeled PS2 and Xbox as casual machines because of the huge third party it got over the GC and they are trying to compensate that loss by overpraising the Wii's appeal to casuals with crappy games.

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#123 ps3-nikita
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[QUOTE="hamstergeddon"][QUOTE="Ninten007"]Laugh all you want. In a few years I will be laughing at you sheep for getting hoodwinked by Nintendo and all of sudden after the Wii goes down the drain they announce a next-gen system with a traditional controller and said we should have taken this route when we had the Wii out because thats what the majority wanted, but we got too cheap.Ninten007


Yes, you will be laughing as the Wii's sales continue to skyrocket and the PS3's sales go down the drain. I wasn't on Gamespot two years ago when Sheep were arguing "quality over sales", but in reality, its not what u think is the quality of the console, its what the public thinks. If they think the console is high quality and buy it, the consoles a success. If nobody buys it: its a failure. The GC was a (relative) failure; the Wii is a success. And quit using last gen to claim ownage, were living in 2007

The Wii is not a success, it still has not reached the 21.5-23 million that the GC already sold. If it does they you can say its alright but if it surprasses it by a considerable margin then it will be a success but right now it is just selling well and there is no telling what will happen in the upcoming months, but history tells me Nintendo starts at a high and declines.

Havent you heard the Wii has already won the war. Looks at the games, if thats winning the console war, I am happy to be on the losing team.
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#124 hamstergeddon
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[QUOTE="hamstergeddon"][QUOTE="Ninten007"]Laugh all you want. In a few years I will be laughing at you sheep for getting hoodwinked by Nintendo and all of sudden after the Wii goes down the drain they announce a next-gen system with a traditional controller and said we should have taken this route when we had the Wii out because thats what the majority wanted, but we got too cheap.Ninten007


Yes, you will be laughing as the Wii's sales continue to skyrocket and the PS3's sales go down the drain. I wasn't on Gamespot two years ago when Sheep were arguing "quality over sales", but in reality, its not what u think is the quality of the console, its what the public thinks. If they think the console is high quality and buy it, the consoles a success. If nobody buys it: its a failure. The GC was a (relative) failure; the Wii is a success. And quit using last gen to claim ownage, were living in 2007

The Wii is not a success, it still has not reached the 21.5-23 million that the GC already sold. If it does they you can say its alright but if it surprasses it by a considerable margin then it will be a success but right now it is just selling well and there is no telling what will happen in the upcoming months, but history tells me Nintendo starts at a high and declines.


Why hasn't the Wii passed the GC sales....:roll: let's stop and think about that for a moment.  Maybe, possibly, because the Wii has only been out for five months.  Considering the fact that half of Nintendo's golden franchises haven't even been released yet, the Wii's sales will probably keep rolling on. 
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#125 Ninten007
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The war is not over, it just started. Who knows the Wii might reach 100 millions sold with a plethora of crappy games or it can stop selling at 15 million. No one knows. But I think in the long run it will wear thin because people will realize they are playing crap and the 360/PS3 will probably be having price drops.

If the Wii wins it will be sad that so many people lowered their expectations of good quality games.

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#126 ithilgore2006
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[QUOTE="REVOLUTIONfreak"]

I don't think "hypocritism" is a word...

And who exactly labeled the PS2 and Xbox as casual consoles? Wii is winning because it actually does have quality games, and the select games that aren't quality have nothing to do with Nintendo, just third parties. Every Nintendo game that has been put on Wii so far is top notch, ie. Twilight Princess, Super Paper Mario, Wii Sports, WarioWare

Ninten007

Oh me, oh my. If you truly believe those games are top-notch then man get outta here.

TP-Yea good game, also playable on GC and in some aspects better on the GC because of camera control. The Wii version got the "Best" tag on GS.

Super Paper Mario-Meh been there dont that, Paper Mario TTYD is believed to be better By who? You? Nobody cares what you think of the game.

Wii Sports- A cheap tech demo where you can move your characters, and just making swinging motions to win.It's free, what would you expect?

WarioWare- Which gamer, besides sheep, in their right state of mind plays a plethora of mini games? Someone looking for some lighthearted fun. Just becauseyou don't like Nintendo, doesn't mean the game is bad.

Yea last gen sheep labeled PS2 and Xbox as casual machines because of the huge third party it got over the GC and they are trying to compensate that loss by overpraising the Wii's appeal to casuals with crappy games.

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#127 Doc_smock
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Please......ALL Fanboy logic is just a matter of convenience at the time....

PS3: no rumble......now YAY rumble

360: no HDMI or large HDD......now Elite 360 (with hdmi and large HDD)

Sheep: GC for the hardcore gamers.....now Wii is for grandmas,grandpas,mom,dad, etc.

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That's the least flawed logic i've ever seen on SW, have a gold star. it's on the house.
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#128 Blackbond
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Rumble is a gimmick until the Dual Shock

Analog sucked until Dual Shock

Tilt and Motion sensing was a gimmick until Six Axis

Sales determined that PS1 and PS2 were winnning but can't be used to claim Wii is winning

Rumble isn't needed until you guys go crazy about it coming back

Xbox is a shooter brand yet Resistance Fall of Man is Sony's only worth while exclusive.

Two SKU's is the dumbest thing ever created MS are idiotsand then Sony did it too.

Having software emulation for BC is dumb when Sony has hardware BC until that was taken away.

Next gen doesn't start until we say so yet PS3 doesn't have one game that looks or plays better then GeOW

PS1 and PS2 weak graphics, we don't need graphics games are where its at Why did this change with PS3?

You guys go on and on about graphics yet no PS3 game looks better then Gears of War

You keep telling yourself that sheep logic is flawed. All fanboy logic is flawed.

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#129 Marka1700
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IMO- all fanboys logic is flawed.  Oroin
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#131 TekkenMaster606
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Who says that all sheep were supporters of the Gamecube last time around? Who says that all cows were fans of the Playstation 2 last time around?

Really, I love the Playstation 3 but when it comes down to it, the PS2 was a secondary console to my primary platform, the PC. I've been a hermit for a long time now and well, I like the PS3 even more than I did the PS2. Stop assuming that fans of the current consoles were automatically fans of those previous machines last generation.

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#132 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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I've read through a couple pages... does the TC ever stop self-owning?