Sheep, mind telling me why you're playing sales?

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#201 hakanakumono
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Actually, it does seem like there are a lot more shooters this generation.

But I believe there is more variety on the other systems than on the wii.

goblaa

So we've gone from "proof" to "belief"?

I said believe because I'm not going to back it up tonight. You are free to take what I say with a grain of salt.

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#202 HarlockJC
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Oh I am SO looking forward to Mega Man 9!!

svetzenlether

You know in my opinion this gen started off really bad. But now that I look at it the 360 "even thought MM9 is on other consoles" has really done a good job with arcade games. I agree with the other guy I have never been a big person into shooters even if I just beat Lost Planet. It was more I got it for a really good deal than the want to really play it. I more into well either JRPGs or Platfromers. Which is one of the reasons I am looking more forward to the Wii library than the 360's there is a lot of really cool looking new platfromers coming out to the Wii. Then again there are so many great games now coming to the arcade that I know I will have to buy them also. I feel like the only system that is really missing out is the PS3. Yes it got LBP which I will get but past that there is just not has much there for me has there was on the PS2.

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#203 r_gam3
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How is Mario Kart an "amazing" game? :?Stevo_the_gamer

your right. Nowadays games that get below 9 are pathetic and crap...

/sarcasm.

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#204 angelkimne
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]How is Mario Kart an "amazing" game? :?r_gam3

your right. Nowadays games that get below 9 are pathetic and crap...

/sarcasm.

It's not 'amazing' though. Sure 8.5 is a good score and it's a good, fun game but it's really not anything special imo.

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#205 KungfuKitten
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Since when have You stopped playing sales?
Ow right, that's since the wii became a succes.
Which is fine. But don't go asking why we mention wii sales.
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#206 air_wolf_cubed
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Explain why NPD is such a big deal on SW if sales are stupid
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#207 blues35301
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[QUOTE="Ibacai"][QUOTE="ChrisSpartan117"][QUOTE="Ibacai"][QUOTE="ChrisSpartan117"][QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]

Everyone plays actual AAA games, though sheep like to play sales more for God know why

ChrisSpartan117

Fixed.

Double fixed ;)

Triple fixed.

But sheep are actually playing AAA games, correct? You try to undermine the ranking of the Wii games but change to the "playing sales" argument when actually pushed on the subject. Not a good way to get your point across.

Fine then, here you go:

Super Mario Galaxy BoxshotRated 9.5, and won GOTY 2007

Super Smash Bros. BrawlRated 9.5

The Legend of Zelda: Twilight PrincessRated 8.8, and was actually considered underrated, like MGS3

Mario Kart WiiRated 8.5

sorry but all that is, is amazing game, rehash, gc port, rehash to the fullest extent

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#208 bobbetybob
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Yeah Wii got no good 3rd party games this year at all, nope not one, not one 3rd party game got over a 7, none at all definitely not.
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#209 fabz_95
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I've said it before and I'll say it again Red steel is kinda fun!

-Hides-

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#210 MagnuzGuerra
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[QUOTE="Rocky32189"]

Well I'm burned out with shooters if that gives you any clue why I don't think the 360 is god.

hakanakumono

You've never owned a console outside of nintendo have you?

wow, really. You started gaming with the PS1 or something? It's not the first time you assume people only play Nintendo systems.
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#211 Koba123
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PS2 also had equally crappy games with phenominal console sales. I'm seeing a similarity. :shock:Lionheart08


I wanted a ps2 because there were so many games that I were interested in. If a Wii would fall down the sky into my hands I would probably sell it.
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#212 TAKE_IT_BACK
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I haven't seen anyone try to use the sales argument in a looooooong time. Your a bit late.

But y'know, if someone supporting the wii even mentions sales, they get flamed into oblivion, but yet cows and lems are always arguing about sales...

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#213 Burnsmiesta
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Yet when the NPD monthly sales come out the PS3 and 360 fanboys go crazy?
Also in a recent SW poll users voted that sales don't win the war and the only possible outcome was for the SW to continue infinitely?
Sales only matter when its an advantage to (enter faction here)

/thread
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#214 HarlockJC
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[QUOTE="r_gam3"]

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]How is Mario Kart an "amazing" game? :?angelkimne

your right. Nowadays games that get below 9 are pathetic and crap...

/sarcasm.

It's not 'amazing' though. Sure 8.5 is a good score and it's a good, fun game but it's really not anything special imo.

IMO it is....IMO it is the best race game out this gen. I love the new online battle mode. Even though it took awhile to get use to the Wiiwheel.

Opinions are so fun

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#216 angelkimne
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[QUOTE="angelkimne"][QUOTE="r_gam3"]

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]How is Mario Kart an "amazing" game? :?HarlockJC

your right. Nowadays games that get below 9 are pathetic and crap...

/sarcasm.

It's not 'amazing' though. Sure 8.5 is a good score and it's a good, fun game but it's really not anything special imo.

IMO it is....IMO it is the best race game out this gen. I love the new online battle mode. Even though it took awhile to get use to the Wiiwheel.

Opinions are so fun

Oh noez. How am I supposed to argue with that ???
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#217 HarlockJC
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Oh noez. How am I supposed to argue with that ???angelkimne

LOL.... :P

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#218 fbigent34
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So wait you dont like how the play sales? But you will go by reviews? lmao talking about a big hyprcorit.

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#219 ChocolateCake10
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How is Mario Kart an "amazing" game? :?Stevo_the_gamer

yeah it was done 10 years ago

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#220 ChrisSpartan117
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I think I may request this topic getting locked, not because of the responses against me, but because I'm thinking of trolling when I see most of these posts.
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#221 bobbetybob
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]How is Mario Kart an "amazing" game? :?ChocolateCake10

yeah it was done 10 years ago

Ahh yes I remember that game. Mario Kart 64 it was, I used to love playing online with it, it had graphics so ahead of it's time as well, and those Mii's that were in it, can't believe Nintendo returned to those, so cool. Plus I was amazed at how it could predict the future, having those classic maps from Gamecube and DS before the consoles even existed!

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#222 Rocky32189
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but because I'm thinking of trolling when I see most of these posts.ChrisSpartan117

Isn't that the point of this whole forum?

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#223 SolidGame_basic
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The Wii may be able to make profit out of selling its hardware and games. but systems like Sony and 360 can make tons of money out of features alone. That's why I get a little annoyed when people claim that the Wii is winning this generation. The Wii doesn't offer great online, downloadable content or games, movie rentals/purchases, or HD. At least MS and Sony can make money out of that. Sony can make money out of bluray as well. What can Wii sell? A $250 dollar console with motion control? I'll admit, there are some great games but they are almost in a different industry compared to PS3/360.
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#224 nahmean187
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All i gotta say is that i love it when ppl say "wii is better cuz of sales but halo sucks" or something like that. halo is the best selling game of this gen. if ur gonna say a console is better than another cuz of sales, then do the same w/ games.

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#225 Rocky32189
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The Wii may be able to make profit out of selling its hardware and games. but systems like Sony and 360 can make tons of money out of features alone. That's why I get a little annoyed when people claim that the Wii is winning this generation. The Wii doesn't offer great online, downloadable content or games, movie rentals/purchases, or HD. At least MS and Sony can make money out of that. Sony can make money out of bluray as well. What can Wii sell? A $250 dollar console with motion control? I'll admit, there are some great games but they are almost in a different industry compared to PS3/360.SolidGame_basic

Online? How can Sony and Microsoft make more money by providing more features and a more robust online service?

Downloadable Content? The Wii does offer the best selection of downloadable games. Doesn't that count for something?

How are Microsoft and Sony making more money by including HD?

If you're going by profits than Nintendo has already won this gen. No contest. Games? That's a matter of opinion.

All i gotta say is that i love it when ppl say "wii is better cuz of sales but halo sucks" or something like that. halo is the best selling game of this gen. if ur gonna say a console is better than another cuz of sales, then do the same w/ games.

Well, technically Wii Sports and Wii Play are the best selling games this gen but I know those don't count. There are a few real on the Wii which are close to the sales of Halo 3. As the Wii continues to outsell the competition, they may surpass Halo 3. But yeah, sales don't matter anyway so it's not worth debating.

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#226 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator  Online
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No, but your left with an incredibly thin list of games...and since my least favorite genre is shooters, the 360 just isn't on my radar.

That leaves the wii with the most appeal and most to offer.

Again, none of this can be proven and why do you care?

goblaa
You have no idea what you're talking about.
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Lems and Cows, mind tellign me why you're not playing sales?

Oh that's right you don't have them...

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#228 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator  Online
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]How is Mario Kart an "amazing" game? :?r_gam3

your right. Nowadays games that get below 9 are pathetic and crap...

/sarcasm.

Woah, someone's a bit insecure about their favroite Wii titles. I didn't say it was bad now, did I? If Mario Kart is "amazing" then I guess Soul Caliber IV is also AMAZING -- eh?

Sheep. :roll:

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Lems and Cows, mind tellign me why you're not playing sales?

Oh that's right you don't have them...

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When did the Xbox 360 and PS3 start selling "0" units? There a boycott that's going on, or something?

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Lems and Cows, mind tellign me why you're not playing sales?

GundamGuy0

Because their busy playing great games that come more often than once per quarter of the year?

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[QUOTE="GundamGuy0"]

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Lems and Cows, mind tellign me why you're not playing sales?

CronoSquall

Because their busy playing great games that come more often than once per quarter of the year?

Ownage approved. Plus, GTA IV crushes every Wii game out this year.

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#231 GundamGuy0
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[QUOTE="GundamGuy0"]

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Lems and Cows, mind tellign me why you're not playing sales?

CronoSquall

Because their busy playing great games that come more often than once per quarter of the year?

You would believe that wouldn't you, but if Cows or Lems had sales too, it would be a huge arguement point they would be using too.

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#232 -Wheels-
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[QUOTE="GundamGuy0"]

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Lems and Cows, mind tellign me why you're not playing sales?

CronoSquall

Because their busy playing great games that come more often than once per quarter of the year?

The Wii has been out for almost 2 years, that's 8 business seasons. I think you need to recheck your math.

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#233 GundamGuy0
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[QUOTE="CronoSquall"][QUOTE="GundamGuy0"]

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Lems and Cows, mind tellign me why you're not playing sales?

Gears2TrueStory

Because their busy playing great games that come more often than once per quarter of the year?

Ownage approved. Plus, GTA IV crushes every Wii game out this year.

Because Cows and Lems never argue sales, and would be totally above arguing sales if they actually could? Ya right...

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[QUOTE="CronoSquall"][QUOTE="GundamGuy0"]

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Lems and Cows, mind tellign me why you're not playing sales?

-Wheels-

Because their busy playing great games that come more often than once per quarter of the year?

The Wii has been out for almost 2 years, that's 8 business seasons. I think you need to recheck your math.

It has less than eight great games, so that works out.

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[QUOTE="CronoSquall"][QUOTE="GundamGuy0"]

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Lems and Cows, mind tellign me why you're not playing sales?

-Wheels-

Because their busy playing great games that come more often than once per quarter of the year?

The Wii has been out for almost 2 years, that's 8 business seasons. I think you need to recheck your math.

And that's the PATHETIC part, the PS2 and the original Xbox had more quality titles in a year then the Wii has had in its lifetime.
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#237 CronoSquall
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Hey guys! Remember when Metroid Prime 3 came out and changed the way we play FPS games on console FOREVER?

Yeah, I don't either.

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Hey guys! Remember when Metroid Prime 3 came out and changed the way we play FPS games on console FOREVER?

Yeah, I don't either.

CronoSquall

:lol: I'm still awaiting the day when Nintendo fufill their promise of a 'revolution'

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#239 CronoSquall
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[QUOTE="CronoSquall"]

Hey guys! Remember when Metroid Prime 3 came out and changed the way we play FPS games on console FOREVER?

Yeah, I don't either.

z_gaming_master

:lol: I'm still awaiting the day when Nintendo fufill their promise of a 'revolution'

Dude, we went from locking on to an enemy in OoT and mashing on A until we won, to locking on to an enemy and waggling until we won in the Wii version of TP. Thats a freaking huge leap forward for gaming.

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#240 Rocky32189
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Hey guys! Remember when Metroid Prime 3 came out and changed the way we play FPS games on console FOREVER?

CronoSquall

MP3 isn't an FPS, but it did have better controls than every console FPS to date.

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#241 CronoSquall
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[QUOTE="CronoSquall"]

Hey guys! Remember when Metroid Prime 3 came out and changed the way we play FPS games on console FOREVER?

Rocky32189

MP3 isn't an FPS, but it did have better controls than every console FPS to date.

No, it really didn't. The basic act of turning and shooting at the same time was cumbersome and unintuitive. When everyone was holding PERFECTLY still and in my line of sight, yeah, good times. Turning, moving, jumping, and shooting all at once though? BLERGH, controls am suck. MP3 was actually one of the games that made me sell my Wii. Besides the fight with Ridley falling down that huge pit, which was rad beyond belief but helped by the fact that he was, as I said above, directly in my line of sight at all times, it was a massive let down, and was virtually forgotten by even hardcore Wii fans within a week of release.

Because those "outdated" shooters like COD4 and Orange Box, both vastly superior games, had just come out as well.

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#242 vashkey
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[QUOTE="CronoSquall"]

Hey guys! Remember when Metroid Prime 3 came out and changed the way we play FPS games on console FOREVER?

Rocky32189

MP3 isn't an FPS, but it did have better controls than every console FPS to date.

Not really.

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[QUOTE="Rocky32189"][QUOTE="CronoSquall"]

Hey guys! Remember when Metroid Prime 3 came out and changed the way we play FPS games on console FOREVER?

CronoSquall

MP3 isn't an FPS, but it did have better controls than every console FPS to date.

No, it really didn't. The basic act of turning and shooting at the same time was cumbersome and unintuitive. When everyone was holding PERFECTLY still and in my line of sight, yeah, good times. Turning, moving, jumping, and shooting all at once though? BLERGH, controls am suck. MP3 was actually one of the games that made me sell my Wii. Besides the fight with Ridley falling down that huge pit, which was rad beyond belief but helped by the fact that he was, as I said above, directly in my line of sight at all times, it was a massive let down, and was virtually forgotten by even hardcore Wii fans within a week of release.

Because those "outdated" shooters like COD4 and Orange Box, both vastly superior games, had just come out as well.

Oh yeah, I'm sure you can prove that MP3 "was virtually forgotten by even hardcore Wii fans within a week of release"

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#244 CronoSquall
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I think the fact that MP3 only comes up in discussions when I take the time to laugh at it and remind people how badly it failed to lead any remote sort of revolution in it's genre going as far back as late last year validates that statement. Meanwhile, COD4 and Orange Box are still widely played and discussed. MP3 wasn't just a failure as a revolution, it just wasn't a very good Metroid Prime game, both it and MP2 failed to even get near the godliness of the first game, which I regard as an all time classic.
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#245 GundamGuy0
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[QUOTE="Rocky32189"][QUOTE="CronoSquall"]

Hey guys! Remember when Metroid Prime 3 came out and changed the way we play FPS games on console FOREVER?

CronoSquall

MP3 isn't an FPS, but it did have better controls than every console FPS to date.

No, it really didn't. The basic act of turning and shooting at the same time was cumbersome and unintuitive. When everyone was holding PERFECTLY still and in my line of sight, yeah, good times. Turning, moving, jumping, and shooting all at once though? BLERGH, controls am suck. MP3 was actually one of the games that made me sell my Wii. Besides the fight with Ridley falling down that huge pit, which was rad beyond belief but helped by the fact that he was, as I said above, directly in my line of sight at all times, it was a massive let down, and was virtually forgotten by even hardcore Wii fans within a week of release.

Because those "outdated" shooters like COD4 and Orange Box, both vastly superior games, had just come out as well.

Actually I found jumping turning, moving and shooting at the same time, very well handled by MP3... I could actually do it, where in most games It's hard to do antying but move in a stright line (in any one direction) and shoot... I was moving liek crazy and shooting in MP3...

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#246 SolidGame_basic
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Online? How can Sony and Microsoft make more money by providing more features and a more robust online service?

Downloadable Content? The Wii does offer the best selection of downloadable games. Doesn't that count for something?

How are Microsoft and Sony making more money by including HD?

If you're going by profits than Nintendo has already won this gen. No contest. Games? That's a matter of opinion.

Rocky32189

Don't even compare Wii online to Xbox Live or PSN. There's much more there. What downloadable games are being made for Wii? What kind of expansions and updates do you get? Most of them come at a price. You can definitly make more money selling peripherals and other accesories for multimedia systems like PS3 and 360. HD and bluray are a big business. What can you do with Wii besides play games? It's just a bigger business.

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#247 CronoSquall
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Actually I found jumping turning, moving and shooting at the same time, very well handled by MP3... I could actually do it, where in most games It's hard to do antying but move in a stright line (in any one direction) and shoot...

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I think you haven't played a FPS game on a console since the n64 to be able to say that and honestly mean it.

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#249 NAPK1NS
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How is Mario Kart an "amazing" game? :?Stevo_the_gamer

I was thinking the same thing. Galaxy and Smash, sure, but Mario Kart?

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#250 vashkey
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[QUOTE="GundamGuy0"]

Actually I found jumping turning, moving and shooting at the same time, very well handled by MP3... I could actually do it, where in most games It's hard to do antying but move in a stright line (in any one direction) and shoot...

CronoSquall

I think you haven't played a FPS game on a console since the n64 to be able to say that and honestly mean it.

Personally the only thing I think Retro did impressively with the controls is the grappeling beam. That just felt very good. The rest of the controls left much to be desieed.