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#103 deactivated-5a30e101a977c
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@Shewgenja said:
@Ant_17 said:
@Shewgenja said:

But hey, it has Backwards Compatibility!

Backwards Compatibility, guys!

Man , you really are backwards lol.

What's backwards is the fact that no one can argue the OP's point while we're talking about a system that has only done better than the WiiU due to aggressive price-slashing.

Lol, still that insecure

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#104 waahahah
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@Shewgenja said:
@Ant_17 said:
@Shewgenja said:

But hey, it has Backwards Compatibility!

Backwards Compatibility, guys!

Man , you really are backwards lol.

What's backwards is the fact that no one can argue the OP's point while we're talking about a system that has only done better than the WiiU due to aggressive price-slashing.

Whats really backwards is its only a valid argument in system wars due to the terminology constraint on the word exclusive. Which means to exclude. MS has exclusives for 2 platforms that exclude other platforms. Thats how the real world looks at it. And to sit here and say xbox is worse for it is totally stupid since it has games that ps4 and wii u do not have... and for people that don't own multiple systems its a great benefit. And the amount of crossover between PC,ps4,xone is like 90% of the games that come out (except on pc, the console games make up like 3% of its library), the only real right way to do it, is buy a PC, and a wii u. If you don't like PC, swap it out with either a xbox or ps4 depending on your exclusive preference.

Xbox and ps4 are pretty interchangeable but both worth the asking price.

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#105 waahahah
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@Warchief30: Awesome!! Don't buy it or play games on it. I own both, didn't want to wait to play DR3, Ryse. Wont wait to play QB or anything else that comes out on PC. I DONT CARE. The "true exclusives" argument is for people who A) read forums and are enthusiasts. I know not one average consumer that can tell me what is shared with PC or not. Hell many of the ones I have spoken to in Gamestop are shocked to find out a gaming PC is the most powerful platform of all. These people have no desire to buy a gaming PC or maintain it. And a $400 Dell laptop isn't going to run DR3 or Ryse

B) I don't wonder why X1 is "flopping". They were idiots with stupid policies that couldn't have been announced any worse and heads rolled as a result. They are never, never going to be the world wide favorite. True exclusives, most powerful, nothing will make people like them more than Sony. Only Sony could possibly lose that standing. And I DONT CARE. There are games on the X1 that wont be playable on my PS4. And I have friends that own the X1 and I love playing games with them.

If wanting to be number one in sales is seriously important to a gamer, especially having no stake in the company, they are really insecure human beings.

Its false advertising to say something is exclusive and to put it out on PC afterwards, that is not how an exclusive works.

Exclusive means you can only get it on one platform they said certain games were xbox one exclusives on the box and in advertisements. If they go to PC it is not exclusive an people like me were lied to in advertisements. People could maybe even sue xbox over this this kinda of stuff, when you say something is exclusive it has to be unique to that platform especially in advertisements.

PC and Xb1 are different devices and if you put something on PC then its not exclusive and needs to be marketed as a non-exclusive from the start imo.

No, exclusive only means that in system wars.

Exclusive in the real world means it excludes other platforms...

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#107 blueinheaven
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MS are the authors of all their own problems, they proved that right at the beginning of the gen by fucking up completely with the most hilarious PR disaster of any console launch. Now they are giving all their Xbox One exclusives to PC which is great for PC gamers who now get the message from MS that they will never need to buy an Xbox One for any reason. Spencer has even said more Halo games (yep Halo, the only reason for owning an Xbox One as all multiplats are better on PS4) may come to PC as the franchise has a legacy there. Staggering stupidity.

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#108  Edited By cainetao11
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@waahahah: it's amazing how ignorant of the truth some are isn't it? If something excludes even one of a potential audience, it is by definition exclusive to those it includes. SW does not equal real world.

Don't believe @ProtossX? File a law suit against MS for false advertising. See how far you get.

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#109  Edited By StrongBlackVine
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@mems_1224: PS3 started off slow too....

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#110 d_parker
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No love for Microsoft here but at least they had the sense to release a 1TB unit in North America while Sony sits on their hands.

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#111 StrongBlackVine
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@-God-: Yes because I am referring exclusively to PlayStation 4. By the end of the generation there will be more big budget PlayStation 4 exclusives than PC in the same time frame. Consoles are getting a lot of the indies now too so that isn't even much of an advantage.

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#112  Edited By -God-
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@-God-: Yes because I am referring exclusively to PlayStation 4. By the end of the generation there will be more big budget PlayStation 4 exclusives than PC in the same time frame. Consoles are getting a lot of the indies now too so that isn't even much of an advantage.

1. Indy or not, pc has the most 8.0 and above exclusives by far. As far as upcomming exclusives go, PS4's list is a drop in the pond compared to PC. Your comment made no sense.

2. On the subject of big budget exclusives (not even sure why that matters), your prediction doesn't seem so certain. Most of the big budget Sony games have flopped so far, and Blood Borne is hardly big budget. I don't see it having more by the end. Again I'm not sure how budget matters when PS4's best games are lower budget, and all the big expensive ones have flopped miserably.

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#113 cainetao11
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This has become such a stupid thread.

I need what I buy to have games that exclude people that don't own it because it makes my pee pee look bigger to me.

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#114  Edited By StrongBlackVine
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@-God-: Considering none their top studios have released games I'm not concerned about flops. inFAMOUS Second Son was not a flop btw.

I have NEVER seen console only gamers cry for port of PC exclusive like PC only gamers did with Bloodborne.

I like PC gaming, but their exclusives are crap compared to consoles. PC is for playing the best version of multiplats as far as I'm concerned. 5 Nights At Freddy's is 4 exclusives for PC. That isnt quality.

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#115 mems_1224
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@StrongBlackVine said:

@mems_1224: PS3 started off slow too....

and stayed slow. 2 good games doesnt justify a console that lasted 10 years. sorry to break it to you.

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#116  Edited By NyaDC
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@mr_huggles_dog said:
@-God- said:

and PS4 only has bloodborne.

This is proof that hermits fear the PS4's popularity.

This thread is about the X1 and then someone who doesn't like consoles in general attacks the leader.

I find this funny.

Why would any PC gamer with a competent system fear the PlayStation 4? That's like having a fear of ants...

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#117 Ant_17
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@nyadc said:
@mr_huggles_dog said:
@-God- said:

and PS4 only has bloodborne.

This is proof that hermits fear the PS4's popularity.

This thread is about the X1 and then someone who doesn't like consoles in general attacks the leader.

I find this funny.

Why would any PC gamer with a competent system fear the PlayStation 4? That's like having a fear of ants...

I'm starting to see a patern here...................................

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#118  Edited By NyaDC
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@Ant_17 said:
@nyadc said:
@mr_huggles_dog said:
@-God- said:

and PS4 only has bloodborne.

This is proof that hermits fear the PS4's popularity.

This thread is about the X1 and then someone who doesn't like consoles in general attacks the leader.

I find this funny.

Why would any PC gamer with a competent system fear the PlayStation 4? That's like having a fear of ants...

I'm starting to see a patern here...................................

I can think of several, what did you have in mind?

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#119  Edited By StrongBlackVine
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@mems_1224: I have no idea what 2 games you are talking about, but PS3 exclusives were very well represented in my favorite games of last gen.

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#120 jg4xchamp
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The PS4 by the end of this year is going to have 1 good (admittedly great) exclusive in Bloodborne. The WiiU in 3 years has one great game to show for itself.

It's a united effort by all 3 consoles to make this one of the lamest console gens so far.

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#121 Ant_17
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@nyadc said:
@Ant_17 said:
@nyadc said:
@mr_huggles_dog said:
@-God- said:

and PS4 only has bloodborne.

This is proof that hermits fear the PS4's popularity.

This thread is about the X1 and then someone who doesn't like consoles in general attacks the leader.

I find this funny.

Why would any PC gamer with a competent system fear the PlayStation 4? That's like having a fear of ants...

I'm starting to see a patern here...................................

I can think of several, what did you have in mind?

Let's hear yours frst.

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#122 mems_1224
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@StrongBlackVine said:

@mems_1224: I have no idea what 2 games you are talking about, but PS3 exclusives were very well represented in my favorite games of last gen.

yea but you have shit taste

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@ProtossX said:

@lostrib: As an XBONE/ PC owner I hope ps4 destroys Xbox for making my console useless.

Sure fakeboy...you can leave now no fakeboys allowed

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#124 HalcyonScarlet
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@Ant_17 said:
@HalcyonScarlet said:

@Ant_17: making money with multiplats is great for them, but it makes the console less attractive for us.

From day one imo the X1 has been a massive waste of money.

I'm in the same boat.

And no dev does for us , so unless we have control , it's gonna keep going the same way it is now

That's why I jumped ship to the PC, I'm tired of waiting for MS to make it good.

I actually picked up a 2nd hand '360 E' about a month ago and it's great. How MS went from that to this, makes no sense.

MS are fucking assholes who screwed over day one buyers.

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#125 Ant_17
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@HalcyonScarlet said:
@Ant_17 said:
@HalcyonScarlet said:

@Ant_17: making money with multiplats is great for them, but it makes the console less attractive for us.

From day one imo the X1 has been a massive waste of money.

I'm in the same boat.

And no dev does for us , so unless we have control , it's gonna keep going the same way it is now

That's why I jumped ship to the PC, I'm tired of waiting for MS to make it good.

I actually picked up a 2nd hand '360 E' about a month ago and it's great. How MS went from that to this, makes no sense.

MS are fucking assholes who screwed over day one buyers.

I can't make that leap yet.

Sticking to last gen consoles till the end of this year , but since i won't buy the mandatory online sub , it has to have a lot of SP games.

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#126  Edited By ProtossX
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@HalcyonScarlet said:
@Ant_17 said:
@HalcyonScarlet said:

@Ant_17: making money with multiplats is great for them, but it makes the console less attractive for us.

From day one imo the X1 has been a massive waste of money.

I'm in the same boat.

And no dev does for us , so unless we have control , it's gonna keep going the same way it is now

That's why I jumped ship to the PC, I'm tired of waiting for MS to make it good.

I actually picked up a 2nd hand '360 E' about a month ago and it's great. How MS went from that to this, makes no sense.

MS are fucking assholes who screwed over day one buyers.

Amen. Do you think the Xbox management knows they aren't delivering for fans? They must have some inklings of people gaming on it compared to 360 and stuff right?

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#127 NyaDC
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@Ant_17 said:
@nyadc said:
@Ant_17 said:
@nyadc said:
@mr_huggles_dog said:
@-God- said:

and PS4 only has bloodborne.

This is proof that hermits fear the PS4's popularity.

This thread is about the X1 and then someone who doesn't like consoles in general attacks the leader.

I find this funny.

Why would any PC gamer with a competent system fear the PlayStation 4? That's like having a fear of ants...

I'm starting to see a patern here...................................

I can think of several, what did you have in mind?

Let's hear yours frst.

It's either huggles and I going on about PC or me speaking ill of the PlayStation 4, mind you my comment relates to the Xbox One equally.

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#129 -God-
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@StrongBlackVine said:

@-God-: Considering none their top studios have released games I'm not concerned about flops. inFAMOUS Second Son was not a flop btw.

I have NEVER seen console only gamers cry for port of PC exclusive like PC only gamers did with Bloodborne.

I like PC gaming, but their exclusives are crap compared to consoles. PC is for playing the best version of multiplats as far as I'm concerned. 5 Nights At Freddy's is 4 exclusives for PC. That isnt quality.

Well thats because console gamers don't like pc genres, while pc gamers like all genres.

Same reason why you think PC exclusives are "crap". I've seen several people want XCOM2, SC, UT, TW, and Overwatch already.

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#130  Edited By StrongBlackVine
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@-God-: I don't think PC exclusives are crap. I guess it more like you said the genres that tend to be PC exclusive generally don't really interest me. Although I have been tempted to play League of Legends just see what the fuss is about.

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#131 lundy86_4
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Yeah... The other consoles aren't doing all that hot either. It says a lot, when the WiiU has the most interesting exclusives so far.

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#132 Ghost120x
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So this is basically Cow Fan Club: the Sequel?

Brb I'm going to go play Knack.

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@Ghost120x:

Yeah, it smells like some hot sweaty cow action has been going on up in here.

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@davem1992: Yeah, Xbox One has a bunch of weak ones also, i was counting those that are over 8.0 in user ratings. If game cant get over that, i dont feel it should be listed. We have to have standards in this debate or else well just be throwing poop at each other.

Darn it, i failed, guess we only have Bloodborne vs Forza 5 :(

Why have yall forsaken us!

vs forza horizon 2

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I wonder if MS forgot that they have the power of the cloud at their disposal.

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#136  Edited By tushar172787
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@magicalclick said:

Word, FH2 is completely different game on Xbox360. Entire castle and most of crashable trees are missing and you are too blind to see it.

yeah, i tried it, it was really bad, even worse than the first horizon. the physics are massively different too, FH2 on X1 runs on F5 engine and FH2 on 360 runs on horizon 1 engine. oh, and no tuning. but cows: butbutbut it's last gen

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#137 ConanTheStoner
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"Guy creates click bait thread on SW. What happens next will truly shock you!"

Meh. So you're telling me these consoles have shit for exclusives? That's about as shocking as another remaster announcement, or a sequel to CoD.

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#138 QuadKnight
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No wonder the Xbone is a flop.

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@Ant_17 said:
@HalcyonScarlet said:
@Ant_17 said:
@HalcyonScarlet said:

@Ant_17: making money with multiplats is great for them, but it makes the console less attractive for us.

From day one imo the X1 has been a massive waste of money.

I'm in the same boat.

And no dev does for us , so unless we have control , it's gonna keep going the same way it is now

That's why I jumped ship to the PC, I'm tired of waiting for MS to make it good.

I actually picked up a 2nd hand '360 E' about a month ago and it's great. How MS went from that to this, makes no sense.

MS are fucking assholes who screwed over day one buyers.

I can't make that leap yet.

Sticking to last gen consoles till the end of this year , but since i won't buy the mandatory online sub , it has to have a lot of SP games.

You are smart not to jump. It's still not really worth it imo.

@ProtossX said:
@HalcyonScarlet said:
@Ant_17 said:
@HalcyonScarlet said:

@Ant_17: making money with multiplats is great for them, but it makes the console less attractive for us.

From day one imo the X1 has been a massive waste of money.

I'm in the same boat.

And no dev does for us , so unless we have control , it's gonna keep going the same way it is now

That's why I jumped ship to the PC, I'm tired of waiting for MS to make it good.

I actually picked up a 2nd hand '360 E' about a month ago and it's great. How MS went from that to this, makes no sense.

MS are fucking assholes who screwed over day one buyers.

Amen. Do you think the Xbox management knows they aren't delivering for fans? They must have some inklings of people gaming on it compared to 360 and stuff right?

Yeah, I didn't sign up for this. Unless they're stupid, they must know. They abandoned Kinect, so now the hardware is weak for nothing, which would be okay, the PS1 was weaker as well. But there's not enough exclusives to compensate.

I think the PS4 is in a bit of a better situation, but not as much as it's made out. They have some potential megatons upcoming, but there's less of a thunder with them also coming out on the PC.

Console hardware doesn't even matter. They used to be about exclusives.

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#140 tdkmillsy
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90% of games will be on Xbox One and PC going forward and I think it should be 100%. The platform is coming together, you will even be able to buy a game once and play it on PC and Xbox One.

The landscape is changing, System wars needs to catch up. You have a choice

To play xbox one/pc games buy an Xbox One or PC, this is how it should be. If you want an easy to use plug and play cheap system buy an Xbox One if you want a harder to put together, trickier to use with a controller, but gives you more options buy a PC. This wont affect the Xbox One to much and Microsoft make money either way (unified store).

to play PS4 games buy a PS4

to play Wii u games buy a wii u.

Get used to it and give over with these threads.

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#141 xhawk27
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@tdkmillsy said:

90% of games will be on Xbox One and PC going forward and I think it should be 100%. The platform is coming together, you will even be able to buy a game once and play it on PC and Xbox One.

The landscape is changing, System wars needs to catch up. You have a choice

To play xbox one/pc games buy an Xbox One or PC, this is how it should be. If you want an easy to use plug and play cheap system buy an Xbox One if you want a harder to put together, trickier to use with a controller, but gives you more options buy a PC. This wont affect the Xbox One to much and Microsoft make money either way (unified store).

to play PS4 games buy a PS4

to play Wii u games buy a wii u.

Get used to it and give over with these threads.

Did the Xbox 360 have a 90% ratio of exclusives on the PC? I do think you'll see a higher amount of exclusives going to the PC compared to last gen but it's not going to be 90%.

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#142 MlauTheDaft
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@lostrib said:
@Shewgenja said:

But hey, it has Backwards Compatibility!

Backwards Compatibility, guys!

something i'm sure PS4 fans would like to have as well

I'm sure they would like to have it but it's really not a killer feature.

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#143 tdkmillsy
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@xhawk27 said:
@tdkmillsy said:

90% of games will be on Xbox One and PC going forward and I think it should be 100%. The platform is coming together, you will even be able to buy a game once and play it on PC and Xbox One.

The landscape is changing, System wars needs to catch up. You have a choice

To play xbox one/pc games buy an Xbox One or PC, this is how it should be. If you want an easy to use plug and play cheap system buy an Xbox One if you want a harder to put together, trickier to use with a controller, but gives you more options buy a PC. This wont affect the Xbox One to much and Microsoft make money either way (unified store).

to play PS4 games buy a PS4

to play Wii u games buy a wii u.

Get used to it and give over with these threads.

Did the Xbox 360 have a 90% ratio of exclusives on the PC? I do think you'll see a higher amount of exclusives going to the PC compared to last gen but it's not going to be 90%.

I think 100% of Microsoft Exclusives will go to PC via the Microsoft store, there maybe a delay between it coming to one then the other. It will take time but I believe that's the vision they have. Time will tell.

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@lundy86_4 said:

Yeah... The other consoles aren't doing all that hot either. It says a lot, when the WiiU has the most interesting exclusives so far.

This is how I feel about it. Nintendo really missed an opportunity by nerfing the WiiU. A decently powered Nintendo console would have left little reason to own XO/PS4.

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#145  Edited By xhawk27
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@tdkmillsy said:
@xhawk27 said:
@tdkmillsy said:

90% of games will be on Xbox One and PC going forward and I think it should be 100%. The platform is coming together, you will even be able to buy a game once and play it on PC and Xbox One.

The landscape is changing, System wars needs to catch up. You have a choice

To play xbox one/pc games buy an Xbox One or PC, this is how it should be. If you want an easy to use plug and play cheap system buy an Xbox One if you want a harder to put together, trickier to use with a controller, but gives you more options buy a PC. This wont affect the Xbox One to much and Microsoft make money either way (unified store).

to play PS4 games buy a PS4

to play Wii u games buy a wii u.

Get used to it and give over with these threads.

Did the Xbox 360 have a 90% ratio of exclusives on the PC? I do think you'll see a higher amount of exclusives going to the PC compared to last gen but it's not going to be 90%.

I think 100% of Microsoft Exclusives will go to PC via the Microsoft store, there maybe a delay between it coming to one then the other. It will take time but I believe that's the vision they have. Time will tell.

No dude, it's not going to happen. If Microsoft is going to leave consoles then sure but it doesn't make sense to not have an exclusives for your console.

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@xhawk27 said:
@tdkmillsy said:

90% of games will be on Xbox One and PC going forward and I think it should be 100%. The platform is coming together, you will even be able to buy a game once and play it on PC and Xbox One.

The landscape is changing, System wars needs to catch up. You have a choice

To play xbox one/pc games buy an Xbox One or PC, this is how it should be. If you want an easy to use plug and play cheap system buy an Xbox One if you want a harder to put together, trickier to use with a controller, but gives you more options buy a PC. This wont affect the Xbox One to much and Microsoft make money either way (unified store).

to play PS4 games buy a PS4

to play Wii u games buy a wii u.

Get used to it and give over with these threads.

Did the Xbox 360 have a 90% ratio of exclusives on the PC? I do think you'll see a higher amount of exclusives going to the PC compared to last gen but it's not going to be 90%.

the PS4 also has games going to PC.

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@TigerSuperman:

Number 4 I think you meant PS3...not PS4. That console is in lead since launch. However it stands to reason the 360 would lead as it came out one year ahead of the PS3. In the end.....the best scenario was a tie for the 360. If you guys want to argue sales at least be honest about them.

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#149 xxyetixx
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Um TC exclusives do not matter.

All I owned all last was a Xbox 360, the only exclusive games I ever bought were Gears of War 1 and a couple Halo games (that were used games).

Every other game I had was multiplats, COD, Madden, Rainbow 6, Fallout, ect....

As for this gen only exclusive I have Sunset Overdrive. The rest are COD, Titanfall, Mortal Kombat, ect... I will probably get Halo 5 but idk when. I will def be getting COD:BO3, Rb6:Seige, and Doom.

And the same would be true if I only had a PS3 last gen or a PS4 now. all Multiplats maybe 1 or 2 exclusive game.

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#150 Ant_17
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@HalcyonScarlet said:
@Ant_17 said:

I can't make that leap yet.

Sticking to last gen consoles till the end of this year , but since i won't buy the mandatory online sub , it has to have a lot of SP games.

You are smart not to jump. It's still not really worth it imo.

Oh , trust me , it's a thin line between getting a console or a PC , my laptop can't handle The Witcher 3 on mid.