Should Crysis come to PS3 or Xbox 360?

I cant believe how deaf some posters are here. Crysis will NOT and will NEVER come to console, in any shape or form. The posters who think that it could be scaled down, thats complete bull. On its lowest settings Crysis takes nearly a GIG of RAM. 1GB!!!!!!! just to run the game. How do you expect consoles with 512mb of system RAM that have to shared with graphics as well to run a game thats takes nearly double that on its lowest settings. Add that to the fact Crysis, no scratch that, all PC games will use VRAM from the graphics card. Consoles do not have a hope in hell running Crysis.

[QUOTE="DeckardLee"]

Did you even read? I said it depends on the situation. If it came down to Gears Of War 2 graphics with crappy physics versus Half-Life 2 graphics and awesome physics then the choice is obvious.

Johnny-n-Roger

*facepalm*

Please read my posts before you think to comment on them again. Save us both some time.

[QUOTE="Johnny-n-Roger"][QUOTE="DeckardLee"]

Did you even read? I said it depends on the situation. If it came down to Gears Of War 2 graphics with crappy physics versus Half-Life 2 graphics and awesome physics then the choice is obvious.

*facepalm*

Please read my posts before you think to comment on them again. Save us both some time.

I know all about Crysis's Sanbox physics. I, myself, have messed around with it quite a bit. But, obviously, nothing like that will be in CryEngine 3 console games so that point is moot. Again, the preference for physics or graphics comes down to the person.

Sure, if you want Crysis to be a dumbed-down port to the point that you can't tell it's Crysis than sure! :D

[QUOTE="Nephilim83"] NO, the power suit was very fresh and to me was the games big attraction other than graphics, but you were not so specific in your earlier post about varied mission approaches and open levels. Heck, man GTA games have had open levels since the PS2, so that's nothing new. Metal Gear Solid games offer many different approaches to battle, and FarCry 2 offers all of this in one game. Not all in the form of a quick mode-changing powersuit, no. But in its generic form it has all been done before. But I will agree that Crysis threw it all together in an innovative new way. That's one of the things I love about this game. skrat_01

I used MGS as an example off the top of my head and didn't want to reference any games I'd not actually played. Once you get the stealth camo In MGS, 69 different weapons, playboy magazines for distraction, barrels to hide in, a tiny robot to send to scope out the battle field ahead of you, etc... You get quite a variety to combat approach. Sure, for the most part it can all be generalized as stealth, but thats a very diverse amount of options for stealth alone. Anyway, I was not saying that Crysiis did not do this stuff amazingly well and better than most. Dude, originally just mentioned all those qualities as if Crysis was the first to implement them. He never went into detail about how Crysis does it better. He just said that Crysis does it. So, I corrected him in that context alone by saying that all of those things have been done before. ANd they all have. Just because I gave a poor example did not disprove my point.I was never comparing those games with Crysis. I was simply saying that they share the same qualities that he seemed to presume only Crysis had. Anyway, Crysis is not as free-roaming and choosey as you make it out to be. Its all still pretty linear. YOu have a mission or a side mission. YOu go straight to it or you go shoot up some trees or something. Its not like you choose your missions or anything. And how can you say that GTA has open worlds with no choice? You have no clue. GTA always has multiple missions for you to choose from. YOu can steel cars and do odd jobs or just go around blowing stuff up. That game offers more choice than any other. Crysis you have to stick to your mission or wander around aimlessly with nothing to do but break thing. Anyway, I don't mean to argue about it. Nomatter what you say I will not see any true innovation in Crysis beyond its graphics, physics. and powersuit gimmick (and yes I said gimmick. All games nowadays have gimmicks.) Crysis is a great game, but its still just a beefed up FPS with a rather bland story and revamped gameplay elements that are otherwise dated. Period.

I cant believe how deaf some posters are here. Crysis will NOT and will NEVER come to console, in any shape or form. The posters who think that it could be scaled down, thats complete bull. On its lowest settings Crysis takes nearly a GIG of RAM. 1GB!!!!!!! just to run the game. How do you expect consoles with 512mb of system RAM that have to shared with graphics as well to run a game thats takes nearly double that on its lowest settings. Add that to the fact Crysis, no scratch that, all PC games will use VRAM from the graphics card. Consoles do not have a hope in hell running Crysis.

clyde46

You're confusing Crysis being one of the only sandbox open-ended FPS and just general sandbox games. That's where the problem comes from.

What Crysis does, it is pretty much the only one to do it. Therefore, it can't ever be generic.

[QUOTE="clyde46"]

I cant believe how deaf some posters are here. Crysis will NOT and will NEVER come to console, in any shape or form. The posters who think that it could be scaled down, thats complete bull. On its lowest settings Crysis takes nearly a GIG of RAM. 1GB!!!!!!! just to run the game. How do you expect consoles with 512mb of system RAM that have to shared with graphics as well to run a game thats takes nearly double that on its lowest settings. Add that to the fact Crysis, no scratch that, all PC games will use VRAM from the graphics card. Consoles do not have a hope in hell running Crysis.

Nephilim83

At this point, I'm just tired of Crysis. PCers make textual love to that game all over these forums, and its getting old...and sticky.

meh i picked Wii :|

At this point, I'm just tired of Crysis. PCers make textual love to that game all over these forums, and its getting old...and sticky.

GrilledCharlie

If you had bothered to educate yourself you would know that it's not "PCers" that bring Crysis up. It's console fanboys. The only type I've ever seen Crysis brought up by a "PCer" was when someone said [insert console game] looked better or that it took 2000$ to play Crysis acceptably.

[QUOTE="xsubtownerx"]So I guess Crysis can only be played by a select few PC gamers if everything in this thread is true.. interesting.skrat_01

At this point, I'm just tired of Crysis. PCers make textual love to that game all over these forums, and its getting old...and sticky.

GrilledCharlie

Yeah it's all those PC gamers fault, console gamers never mention Crysis...

At this point, I'm just tired of Crysis. PCers make textual love to that game all over these forums, and its getting old...and sticky.

GrilledCharlie

[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"]None. It's not possible to do it on consoles.12345678ew

None. It wouldn't be the same game on them.

Although seeing it on the Wii would be good just for the lolz.

[QUOTE="12345678ew"][QUOTE="pyromaniac223"]None. It's not possible to do it on consoles.dgsag

[QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="xsubtownerx"]So I guess Crysis can only be played by a select few PC gamers if everything in this thread is true.. interesting.xsubtownerx

Too bad it ended up selling quite respectively for the type of game it is.dgsag

[QUOTE="dgsag"]Too bad it ended up selling quite respectively for the type of game it is.xsubtownerx

[QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="xsubtownerx"]So I guess Crysis can only be played by a select few PC gamers if everything in this thread is true.. interesting.xsubtownerx

[QUOTE="xsubtownerx"][QUOTE="dgsag"]Too bad it ended up selling quite respectively for the type of game it is.clyde46

I love how people say it is not possible. It could be done but at what level is the true question. If they geared it to a specific console and invested into it I think it could be close to its true form on a console.wooooode

The devs themselves said Crysis in it's current form can never go to a console. They've said this in more than one occasion. If Crysis was to get a console port, it wouldn't be the same Crysis as the PC version.

I love how people say it is not possible. It could be done but at what level is the true question. If they geared it to a specific console and invested into it I think it could be close to its true form on a console.wooooode

No. It couldn't be done anywhere close to it's true form...the amount it would have to be changed would make it cease to be Crysis. Look at the screenshot posted earlier in this thread, Crysis takes nearly 1 gig of RAM just to run on low settings...consoles cannot handle that. Sure, they could release something like Crysis Battlegrounds or something and have it take place over confined non-continuous areas like Far Cry 2...but that wouldn't be Crysis on consoles...it'd be a spin-off.

crysis cant run on 360. it can only work withthe cell and blu-ray:P fact

crysis cant run on 360. it can only work withthe cell and blu-ray:P fact

ultraking

Pfft. The hidden power of the Wii is the ticket.

ahhhh man, i forgot about the hidden power of the wii

[QUOTE="ultraking"]

crysis cant run on 360. it can only work withthe cell and blu-ray:P fact

tubbyc

Pfft. The hidden power of the Wii is the ticket.

Of course it will, or at least the sequel. Why do you think they made CryENGINE 3? To just sell it's licences? I don't think so. And seeing as their publisher is EA, they WILL have to squeeze all the juice form the franchise.

[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="pyromaniac223"] No but sony said that the cell is ridiculously powerful and that the PS3 is as powerful as a super computer. I mean have you seen KZ2? Crysis should be a piece of cake!pyromaniac223

ps3 and x360 can handle this game

But if programmed correctly the Cell's SPEs could take some of the work off the RAM and make it possible on mid to high settings on the PS3.pyromaniac223

CPU performance is completely different from ram storage, you cannot compensate for a lack of ram with some sort of CPU trick.

[QUOTE="IgGy621985"]

[QUOTE="nunovlopes"]

To expand on this comment, I felt more freedom playing Crysis than I felt playing, say, Oblivion. Sure, on Oblivion you can go everywhere but the gameplay is pretty much locked depending on what class you chose. On Crysis, you can change the gameplay on-the-fly, in real-time, like using stealth or full rambo-style IN THE SAME action sequence.

nunovlopes

You try too hard. It's just graphics and average gameplay.

LOL :) I rest my case, you wouldn't understand anyway...

Take a look at my previous post...

Games on consoles are not programmed the same way, memory isn't major issues either. Crysis could run on both next gen consoles if developers decide to do so.

It won't look visually like Maxed out PC version but it will stand well well enough.

PC and Consoles are developed completely different with different architectures coding.

Games on consoles are not programmed the same way, memory isn't major issues either. Crysis could run on both next gen consoles if developers decide to do so.

It won't look visually like Maxed out PC version but it will stand well well enough.

PC and Consoles are developed completely different with different architectures coding.

Sokol4ever

Games on consoles are not programmed the same way, memory isn't major issues either. Crysis could run on both next gen consoles if developers decide to do so.

It won't look visually like Maxed out PC version but it will stand well well enough.

PC and Consoles are developed completely different with different architectures coding.

Sokol4ever

You are seriously in denial if you honestly believe that. Memory is the major issue. The consoles simply do not have enough RAM to run a Crysis type of game (at least in it's current state on PC). It is not possible from a technical aspect. Crytek has stated this many times. Tell yourself what you want in order to appease this fact but it remains true.

Yes, because then there could be a whole new era of rage threads between hermits saying consoles will have a crappy version and the consolites swearing that theirs is just as good or better, and I will laugh and hold my hands in their, shouting "Dance puppets! Dance!"

Just to let you guys know, my Dual Core CPU will only do around 1-2FPS on the lowest settings trying to display graphics. So dont me crap about the power of "the Cell" being able to compensate for the lack of RAM.

[QUOTE="nunovlopes"]

[QUOTE="IgGy621985"]

You try too hard. It's just graphics and average gameplay.

IgGy621985

LOL :) I rest my case, you wouldn't understand anyway...

Take a look at my previous post...

Ok, I didn't get the sarcasm :)

Games on consoles are not programmed the same way, memory isn't major issues either. Crysis could run on both next gen consoles if developers decide to do so.

It won't look visually like Maxed out PC version but it will stand well well enough.

PC and Consoles are developed completely different with different architectures coding.

Sokol4ever

This is what I call the [insert here] argument, more commonly known as X is right on the basis of 'because'.

They don't know how it will work but they will assume it will, regardless of what anyone else has to say about it, including the developers who actually made the game. This sort of thinking has let to wonderful rationalizations in console forums such as using Blu-ray disks as additional memory and emulating "DX10 effects" on Cell.

In this case he is saying consoles handle code differently, different of course meaning it has magic powers that defy the laws of reality.

Here's a screenshot I posted in another thread, it's Crysis on absolute minimum settings at 720p. Note the memory usage by the game, this does not include any background processes such as the OS and firewall/antivirus.

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AnnoyedDragon

Good post.

That pretty much proves it. (unless the game was downgraded from minimum graphics. Perhaps remove half the trees or make really low textures?... or perhaps stream the land in chunks like Oblivion.... I guess they'd have to do all three. Would be a huge downgrade.)

[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="pyromaniac223"] No but sony said that the cell is ridiculously powerful and that the PS3 is as powerful as a super computer. I mean have you seen KZ2? Crysis should be a piece of cake!pyromaniac223

[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"][QUOTE="clyde46"] Yes thats all well and good but Crysis needs a decent graphics to run. Not to mention a huge amount of spare system RAM, something consoles do NOT have. Sony will say the Cell is powerful but its not match for even a intergrated graphics chip. The Cell doesnt do the graphics calulations. The RSX will not be able to cope. ronvalencia